Topic: Guns Guns Guns
franshade's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:40 AM
how many were self inflicted?

how many were a result of criminal activity?

how many were accidental?


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Thu 10/23/08 10:40 AM
I bet the one's that were accidental were a pretty small percentage

enderra's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:41 AM


Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya thinkfrustrated frustrated frustrated

How many died of auto accidents? How many died of heart attack?

How many died from non gun related violence?!?

Might be suprised at the results.
How many tripped in the bathroom, choke on a piece of chicken. Pleaselaugh laugh laugh laugh

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:42 AM


how many were accidental?

how many were committed with illegal weapons?


besides in 2207 they won't have guns. They'll have blasters

That is a lame argument, the point is that those that were accidental would be alive.

Here is a better argument...

If all those starving people in Africa had weapons with which to drive off the scum that are causing them to starve... would they be dying of starvation?

When only aggressors have guns only aggressors make rules.

franshade's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:43 AM

I bet the one's that were accidental were a pretty small percentage

agreed but still happens :smile:

enderra's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:48 AM



how many were accidental?

how many were committed with illegal weapons?


besides in 2207 they won't have guns. They'll have blasters

That is a lame argument, the point is that those that were accidental would be alive.

Here is a better argument...

If all those starving people in Africa had weapons with which to drive off the scum that are causing them to starve... would they be dying of starvation?

When only aggressors have guns only aggressors make rules.
No there would probably be a lot more dead people.

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Thu 10/23/08 10:48 AM
The majority of gun-related deaths in the United States are suicides, with firearms used in 16,907 suicides in the United States during 2004.
-wiki

NIGHTTRAIN99's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:50 AM



how many were accidental?

how many were committed with illegal weapons?


besides in 2207 they won't have guns. They'll have blasters

That is a lame argument, the point is that those that were accidental would be alive.

Here is a better argument...

If all those starving people in Africa had weapons with which to drive off the scum that are causing them to starve... would they be dying of starvation?

When only aggressors have guns only aggressors make rules.
NO!......how about if they actually had a uncorrupted govt. with responsible laws....and only the lawmakers had guns....not half the countryside like it is now!......now you get small armies overthrowing the govt. and its ruining the continent.....

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Thu 10/23/08 10:51 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Thu 10/23/08 10:52 AM
.now you get small armies overthrowing the govt. and its ruining the continent.....


THAT is the American way. I would refer you to the American Revolution and the War of Northern Aggression


enderra's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:55 AM
1,500 died from accidental firearm
14,00 died from suicide using firearm
18,00 died from being murder with firearm
Nice to see so many gun toting people doing themselves in, wow

NIGHTTRAIN99's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:58 AM


Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya thinkfrustrated frustrated frustrated

How many died of auto accidents? How many died of heart attack?

How many died from non gun related violence?!?

Might be suprised at the results.
Auto accidents are out of our control to some degree(we could legislate more strict driver training)....but still would be out of our control

Heart attacks????....come on dude!...that makes NO sense....

The point here is that Gun-Violence IS something that you can control!.....go look at the numbers from England and Canada and tell me I'm wrong!

ps. Don't come back to me listing the auto accident and heart attack rates in those countries.....because that would just make you look....... frustrated

franshade's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:59 AM



Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya thinkfrustrated frustrated frustrated

How many died of auto accidents? How many died of heart attack?

How many died from non gun related violence?!?

Might be suprised at the results.
Auto accidents are out of our control to some degree(we could legislate more strict driver training)....but still would be out of our control

Heart attacks????....come on dude!...that makes NO sense....

The point here is that Gun-Violence IS something that you can control!.....go look at the numbers from England and Canada and tell me I'm wrong!

ps. Don't come back to me listing the auto accident and heart attack rates in those countries.....because that would just make you look....... frustrated


operative word - control sad2


enderra's photo
Thu 10/23/08 11:02 AM

The majority of gun-related deaths in the United States are suicides, with firearms used in 16,907 suicides in the United States during 2004.
-wiki

That makes it so much better. Citizens offing themselves, and we are left to clean up the mess.laugh laugh laugh frustrated frustrated

NIGHTTRAIN99's photo
Thu 10/23/08 11:02 AM

.now you get small armies overthrowing the govt. and its ruining the continent.....


THAT is the American way. I would refer you to the American Revolution and the War of Northern Aggression


that WAS the American way....do you see that happening now?.....those events were also for the greater good of most Americans not like whats going on in Africa where you have small-interest groups hoarding the countries limited resources and ruining it for the rest of the population....

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Thu 10/23/08 11:06 AM
ummm what exactly do the African warlords have to do with gun control in America?

NIGHTTRAIN99's photo
Thu 10/23/08 11:17 AM




Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya thinkfrustrated frustrated frustrated

How many died of auto accidents? How many died of heart attack?

How many died from non gun related violence?!?

Might be suprised at the results.
Auto accidents are out of our control to some degree(we could legislate more strict driver training)....but still would be out of our control

Heart attacks????....come on dude!...that makes NO sense....

The point here is that Gun-Violence IS something that you can control!.....go look at the numbers from England and Canada and tell me I'm wrong!

ps. Don't come back to me listing the auto accident and heart attack rates in those countries.....because that would just make you look....... frustrated


operative word - control sad2


Agreed....and sad to say the least...but without control there is only CHAOS....

NIGHTTRAIN99's photo
Thu 10/23/08 11:19 AM

ummm what exactly do the African warlords have to do with gun control in America?
hahaha....don't look at me!....AdventureBegins started that argument.. laugh

franshade's photo
Thu 10/23/08 11:19 AM
Edited by franshade on Thu 10/23/08 11:21 AM





Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya thinkfrustrated frustrated frustrated

How many died of auto accidents? How many died of heart attack?

How many died from non gun related violence?!?

Might be suprised at the results.
Auto accidents are out of our control to some degree(we could legislate more strict driver training)....but still would be out of our control

Heart attacks????....come on dude!...that makes NO sense....

The point here is that Gun-Violence IS something that you can control!.....go look at the numbers from England and Canada and tell me I'm wrong!

ps. Don't come back to me listing the auto accident and heart attack rates in those countries.....because that would just make you look....... frustrated


operative word - control sad2


Agreed....and sad to say the least...but without control there is only CHAOS....

no there'd only be controlled chaos


*** this is only my opinion ***

guns do not kill ~ people kill ~ people die ~ things go on


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Thu 10/23/08 11:20 AM
well this has been fun but I gotta go

I'm going dove hunting with my semi-automatic 12 gauge and I have to stop off and get beer on the way

NIGHTTRAIN99's photo
Thu 10/23/08 11:29 AM






Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya thinkfrustrated frustrated frustrated

How many died of auto accidents? How many died of heart attack?

How many died from non gun related violence?!?

Might be suprised at the results.
Auto accidents are out of our control to some degree(we could legislate more strict driver training)....but still would be out of our control

Heart attacks????....come on dude!...that makes NO sense....

The point here is that Gun-Violence IS something that you can control!.....go look at the numbers from England and Canada and tell me I'm wrong!

ps. Don't come back to me listing the auto accident and heart attack rates in those countries.....because that would just make you look....... frustrated


operative word - control sad2


Agreed....and sad to say the least...but without control there is only CHAOS....

no there'd only be controlled chaos


*** this is only my opinion ***

guns do not kill ~ people kill ~ people die ~ things go on


Hahaha....you are only verifying my point.....look at the "controlled chaos" statistics from other countries.....more people are dying on the streets here than in pretty much all the other warzones in the world COMBINED!!!.....isn't there something wrong with that picture?