Please enlighten me oh monkey prophet of the jealous god who is in heaven.

The Jealous God will have no other gods before HIM.

ahh - then we are taling of the same one my mistake now go read geneis again and get back to me also check out mt latest post to deb on mark of the beast maybe this will give you more insite as to what im saying.

God allowed choice & will to enter into the grand scheme.

Let the games begin!!!!

I suppose some don't like the position they are put in to actually have to choose...or make a commitment. Hiding heads in the sand won't help either.

Choose this day who you will believe in. Enuff said.

LOL...next people will be wondering why planets don't talk & why humans can't swim under water like fish do. Geez...there's no pleasing some people. LOL

Yes God is in charge of everthing, but not every spirit. We have to choice to commit our spirit to God or Satan! later

more foolishness - if gods in charge of ""everything"" then how can he not be in charge of "all" spirits? either "everything" means ""everything"" or it does not!

indeed, the fragment of each truth, that be spoken of here as well, be what cover the whole all knowing........

remove the covering of good and bad from the equasion, take the lid from the tupperware, look into the dish of earth, see what all stirred together maketh........

for in the day of mortals, mannkind read and heard all thru either love or fear, which made a bias, and then a picture, that ensnared the logic of the mind, that looked for magnanamous good to fight magnamamous evil, but to god, nothing is large, so there was no large cure for what was as a small problem, but the notions were as up is to down........

fear and love be the boogie man, input into interpretations, that have guided mankind thus far........

if it is read with love.......ONE DFEINITION....

if fear or love, change at anytime within the being, SO MUST DEFINITION, OR TRUTH BE LEFT BEHIND?

if it is read with fear........ONE DEFINITION...

heard with neither.............ONE DEFINITION

father, son, or holy ghost.....take your pick, deal or no deal........

all that is hidden shall be made known.....

what eye makes itself see....

what ear makes itself hear....

what heart makes itself stay alive......

You can change outcomes. With the right attitude.

Jonah 3:1-4:1

Now the word of Yahweh came to Jonah the second time, saying, 2 "Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and preach to it the message that I tell you." 3 So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to the word of Yahweh. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three-day journey in extent. 4 And Jonah began to enter the city on the first day's walk. Then he cried out and said, "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!"

5


So the people of Nineveh believed Elohim, proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest to the least of them. 6 Then word came to the king of Nineveh; and he arose from his throne and laid aside his robe, covered himself with sackcloth and sat in ashes. 7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published throughout Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying,

Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste anything; do not let them eat, or drink water. 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily to Elohim; yes, let every one turn from his evil way and from the violence that is in his hands. 9 Who can tell if Elohim will turn and relent, and turn away from His fierce anger, so that we may not perish?



10 Then Elohim saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and Elohim relented from the disaster that He had said He would bring upon them, and He did not do it.


NKJV

A repentant heart changes your outcome of your life. Yahweh will not dispise that..Shalom..Miles

That would imply that we are only given two choices. This is the trap of Christianity. It is simply not true. Christianity would claim that "freedom of choice" is a choice between "God" (Jesus) or "Satan" and yet they have no proof of either entity's existence, all they have is their myths and their doctrines, all established by men and political leaders of the church and government.

Every existing entity has consciousness to some degree and with that consciousness comes the Will. "The Will" is the power of self direction to choose (make choices) apart from the biological programing of the life form or organism.(the body)

The biological programing is automatic reaction and response to stimuli and for survival instincts and it is information contained within the body of the organism.

By automatic, I mean that it does not take conscious attention or waking consciousness to operate. You do not have to consciously see to it that your heart is beating, it does this automatically. You breathe air automatically. These are programed responses and part of the body information. These are not decisions or choices.

Every day and every minute you make choices in how you will feel and think and what you will place your attention on. Most choices are reactions and many are automatic as you follow the body programing.

The Will is as free as the person is conscious enough to be aware of choices available. If you are not aware of choices available you may feel that your choices are limited to none, one, or two or three. No one can limit your choices to two.

To say that free will was given to man by God is not true.The will is innate and inherent to all entities. To say that it is only a choice between what God or what "entity" to worship or follow is a bald faced lie. Don't fall for that limitation. Its pure propaganda.

You are free according to your willingness to be free and to take responsibility for your existence and your choices.

jb

Inequity was found in Lucifer. Lucifer was the fairest and highest of all the Angels in all of Gods creation. Lucifer chose Pride and Power over God’s Love and Rule. Lucifer is the father of lies and blasphemy. It says in the Bible that God found inequity in him. So Lucifer is the creator of evil.

Now you will say that God created the devil and there for God is responsible for evil.

That would be wrong. Parents create a child that child grows up to murder and torture 100 families to death. Would you say that the parents are guilty of those crimes or that their child is guilty of those crimes.

God gave Satan free will. Unlike Adam and Eve the Devil had access to heavens secrets and Glories. He coveted them for himself. He wanted to be like God or even be above God if he could.

Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it.
( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 )


SATAN CREATED EVIL……

Genesis 6:5-6

5: And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6: And it repented the Lord that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him at His Heart
( He was sorry that he had made mankind in the flesh).

Also we live in a place that has Evil everywhere at all times. We also have Gods presents here on earth. You may look at evil as if it is a permanent thing and you wonder why God did not get rid of it at the start. Well if you have ever read the Bible you would know that God has a plan to destroy evil for ever and ever. It is called ARMAGEDON and in that end the devil is set away from God and his children for ever and ever.

People seem to think that God could just snap his fingers and get rid of evil for ever …well guess what - he could. Problem with that is a large portion of his children would perish along with the devil. So God in his great mercy has given us time to choose sides. If you want to know why evil still exist then just look in the mirror. God wants to save you and me and he has set his own time line for that purpose.

If you have a problem with that then I suggest you talk to him and maybe he will send you some answers.

evidently you dont read the whole posts, ?

parents dont "CREATE" anything, they bring forth that which was endowed upon them to so do. god is the only CREATOR! according to christian and other monothiestic beliefs. A creator can and does create everything not just children, the next pretext you will use is if i am a bird i can bring forth hippos? sorry nice try no cigar, no room for human anologiies here - we are talking a omnipotent god who created all!!

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evidently you dont read the whole posts, ?

parents dont "CREATE" anything, they bring forth that which was endowed upon them to so do. god is the only CREATOR! according to christian and other monothiestic beliefs. A creator can and does create everything not just children, the next pretext you will use is if i am a bird i can bring forth hippos? sorry nice try no cigar, no room for human anologiies here - we are talking a omnipotent god who created all!!

hmm computers messing up here i will continue in a little bit have to shut down and reboot

evidently you dont read the whole posts, ?

parents dont "CREATE" anything, they bring forth that which was endowed upon them to so do. god is the only CREATOR! according to christian and other monothiestic beliefs. A creator can and does create everything not just children, the next pretext you will use is if i am a bird i can bring forth hippos? sorry nice try no cigar, no room for human anologiies here - we are talking a omnipotent god who created all!!

hmm computers messing up here i will continue in a little bit have to shut down and reboot

AMEN to that!...

3 For thus says the LORD:


“ You have sold yourselves for nothing,
And you shall be redeemed without money.”

17 Awake, awake!
Stand up, O Jerusalem,
You who have drunk at the hand of the LORD
The cup of His fury;
You have drunk the dregs of the cup of trembling,
And drained it out.
18 There is no one to guide her
Among all the sons she has brought forth;
Nor is there any who takes her by the hand
Among all the sons she has brought up.
19 These two things have come to you;
Who will be sorry for you?—
Desolation and destruction, famine and sword—
By whom will I comfort you?
20 Your sons have fainted,
They lie at the head of all the streets,
Like an antelope in a net;
They are full of the fury of the LORD,
The rebuke of your God.
21 Therefore please hear this, you afflicted,
And drunk but not with wine.
22 Thus says your Lord,
The LORD and your God,
Who pleads the cause of His people:

“ See, I have taken out of your hand
The cup of trembling,
The dregs of the cup of My fury;
You shall no longer drink it.
23 But I will put it into the hand of those who afflict you,
Who have said to you,[a]
‘ Lie down, that we may walk over you.’
And you have laid your body like the ground,
And as the street, for those who walk over.”

You obviously do not understand the depth of free will. God created the material ( our body’s and Souls) and we make the chairs and the stairs and the mirrors out of it ( our life experiences through choice).

God said in Genesis that he had to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden before they could EAT FROM THE TREE OF LIFE. Why? Because God said: "before they can become like US". The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God actually saved Adam and Eve here and that is because he loved them so much. Thats why he didn’t destroy them and start over.

Man!!! you want to talk about having a faithful relationship ...God loved them so much he didn’t crush them like bugs. Which, by the way, he had every right to do. That's true love brother!!!

Parents/humans were designed by God and given free will. You can do what you want. You can create things from the materials God has given you. Parents can have children but the child forms its own life eventually. That IS FREE WILL. Satan created evil out of the materials God supplied. God is not responsible for what Satan made out of those materials which was “EVIL.”

I understand most definitely that no matter what the depth of mans will is that was given by god, it is as a spec of dust as to his will. He didn't crush A&E like bugs because he had plans for them for instance bringing the christ into existence - it would have destroyed his end intents to have wiped out mankind other wise he would have!

No i cant do what i want [ and neither can you!] - get real i only have the free will to use within set boundaries both here or in the spirit realm! can i walk into the bank and fill up a garbage bag with money?, you can't be serious.

A child does not "form" it's own life, in fact without care in infancy it would die and without training it would be just as adam and eve when it grew.

15 Thou wast perfect <08549> in thy ways <01870> from the day <03117> that thou wast created <01254> (8736), till iniquity <05766> was found <04672> (8738) in thee.


Perfect here does not mean perfect it can't! there is only one thing perfect that is supposedly your god! strongs- tamiym - has to mean one of the others given - complete or whole etc.. way [strongs] -derek - means manner, you were complete in all your manner.

but to my point i was originally making - GOD created everything - therefore he is responsible for all actions, all good all bad, all else - EVERYTHING!! If he hates sin so much he should not have created and given it's potential to his creations to use, if he's god this would have been in his knowledge to know - so that makes him responsible - period! you can blame Satan/Lucifer till the cows come home - it makes no difference - anyone who understands that god created everything realizes this is his doing not anyone Else's - as i say ""the buck stops with god!!""

The buck stops with God...

Yes!

If "sin" is part of the path and one component of the human curriculum, isn't it all alright?

are you speaking of high school ciriculum? or college? I think H.S. prepares us for a good sinful life - but college gives us the means to have a "SPLENDEDLIFE"!!! -