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Topic: What is the "mark of the beast"?
arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 08:19 AM
You'll find your answer to the "mark of the beast" in the old testament, not the NT. good luck in your search. To truely understand the message of the Bible we must study the whole thing. It is not to be taken lightly. It takes the ability to look at the whole situation in any circumstance to have undefiled knowledge. Once you achieve that you are said to have understanding. Then through the action of using the understanding you develope wisdom. Or at least thats the way it is expressed in the Old Testiment, as well as by the eldors of all of the Native American Tribes I have visited with on this subject. you are not incorrect my friend, that is a first people way, but what is learned in the N.T. will lead you to the truth to be found in the old Testament, which, if you have found the truth there - will show you you have only gleened one small facet of the truth you seek, as you state you have found knowledge, but wisdom eludes you as of yet. Nu-wa-do-hi-ya-du [peace] nice to meet you! Please refrain from taking stabs at me or others on this thread!

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Sun 09/28/08 08:26 AM
You'll find your answer to the "mark of the beast" in the old testament, not the NT. good luck in your search. To truely understand the message of the Bible we must study the whole thing. It is not to be taken lightly. It takes the ability to look at the whole situation in any circumstance to have undefiled knowledge. Once you achieve that you are said to have understanding. Then through the action of using the understanding you develope wisdom. Or at least thats the way it is expressed in the Old Testiment, as well as by the eldors of all of the Native American Tribes I have visited with on this subject. you are not incorrect my friend, that is a first people way, but what is learned in the N.T. will lead you to the truth to be found in the old Testament, which, if you have found the truth there - will show you you have only gleened one small facet of the truth you seek, as you state you have found knowledge, but wisdom eludes you as of yet. Nu-wa-do-hi-ya-du [peace] nice to meet you! Please refrain from taking stabs at me or others on this thread! forgive me for trying to be helpful, no offence intended, i will do as you ask and leave you in peace.

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Sun 09/28/08 08:33 AM
I had one if you want to call it that. At least i thought it was over. I have posted the whole story before so this will be wattered down. During the flood of 93 i was working in a substation they determined where i was working for 3+ hours at 115 degrees the next day. I mesed up and grabbed a hot current circuit. metering. When i pulled this plug apart i was being thrown around at 1st like a ragdoll 230lbs... I tried to yell could not see could here cracking of electricity. tried to jump away from it could not. I saw my life flash before me fast fromm when i was young. Finally i said in my head"Yahshua Help me" imediately i was let go and taken to a burn unit. Did test all night. Dr. just scratched his head and said you can go all the tests are normal. Got called into my sup's office asking me if i wanted to take a less dangerous job. I said no. He said you are not taking this seriously. You are the only person in our history to ever survive this. 12000 employess. and then no injuries. He just shook his head like the dr and i went back to work. I would consider that NDE.but i was not dead and i only saw my past. Miles

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 08:41 AM Edited by arkdanimal on Sun 09/28/08 08:43 AM
I had one if you want to call it that. At least i thought it was over. I have posted the whole story before so this will be wattered down. During the flood of 93 i was working in a substation they determined where i was working for 3+ hours at 115 degrees the next day. I mesed up and grabbed a hot current circuit. metering. When i pulled this plug apart i was being thrown around at 1st like a ragdoll 230lbs... I tried to yell could not see could here cracking of electricity. tried to jump away from it could not. I saw my life flash before me fast fromm when i was young. Finally i said in my head"Yahshua Help me" imediately i was let go and taken to a burn unit. Did test all night. Dr. just scratched his head and said you can go all the tests are normal. Got called into my sup's office asking me if i wanted to take a less dangerous job. I said no. He said you are not taking this seriously. You are the only person in our history to ever survive this. 12000 employess. and then no injuries. He just shook his head like the dr and i went back to work. I would consider that NDE.but i was not dead and i only saw my past. Miles Yea, I would call that a near death experiance alright. There are lots and lots of different descriptions of them. One of the the things about all three of mine I have in common with yours. It was at hte instant that I called out "Jesus Christ help me" that I returned. I sure wish I could remember more. Every once in a while somthing will happen and I will remember that is was part of what I saw during the last one. Not dejavu, but from the vision of the future I had during the last NDE! kinda makes me wonder about this space time thing we here about!

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 08:51 AM
13:1 Revelation And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? John sees a sea monster with 7 heads and 10 horns, with "blasphemy" written on on each head. It looked like a leopard, except its feet were like a bear, and its mouth like a lion. "All the world" worshiped the dragon and the beast.

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 09:02 AM
13:1 Revelation And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? John sees a sea monster with 7 heads and 10 horns, with "blasphemy" written on on each head. It looked like a leopard, except its feet were like a bear, and its mouth like a lion. "All the world" worshiped the dragon and the beast. Unfortunatly, the muslim extemist group that is responsible for many terrorist attacks have decided to only pick at the surface about what the beast is! They honestly believe in there hearts that the U.S. of America is the beast that rose up out of the sea. It is not there fault they believe this, someone afflicted with a vengful heart taught them that. It is there fault that they choose to bring harm to other human beings. But I'm not there judge,God is! Pray for peace,,,please!

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 09:09 AM Edited by Krimsa on Sun 09/28/08 09:18 AM
13:1 Revelation And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? John sees a sea monster with 7 heads and 10 horns, with "blasphemy" written on on each head. It looked like a leopard, except its feet were like a bear, and its mouth like a lion. "All the world" worshiped the dragon and the beast. Unfortunatly, the muslim extemist group that is responsible for many terrorist attacks have decided to only pick at the surface about what the beast is! They honestly believe in there hearts that the U.S. of America is the beast that rose up out of the sea. It is not there fault they believe this, someone afflicted with a vengful heart taught them that. It is there fault that they choose to bring harm to other human beings. But I'm not there judge,God is! Pray for peace,,,please! What are you joking? Im not "praying" for anything. I dont believe in this stuff. Im simply pointing out how ridiculous it is. And before you go blaming all the world's problems on the Muslims, I would suggest you take a long hard look at some of the fundamentalist Christian lunatic fringe groups and just how destructive they have been over the centuries.

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 09:21 AM
hmmmmmm!!!!!

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 09:25 AM Edited by Krimsa on Sun 09/28/08 09:25 AM
And dont get me started on the Catholics over the centuries. No sir, the Muslims are not the sole cause of war, death and mayhem. The Christian faith stands every bit as accountable. Besides they dont believe in your deity so nothing is judging them. You should not be judging and taking sides either. Isn't their something in your book of fables (and sea monsters) about not throwing rocks in glass houses?

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 09:33 AM
And dont get me started on the Catholics over the centuries. No sir, the Muslims are not the sole cause of war, death and mayhem. The Christian faith stands every bit as accountable. Besides they dont believe in your deity so nothing is judging them. You should not be judging and taking sides either. Isn't their something in your book of fables (and sea monsters) about not throwing rocks in glass houses? Well the one I heard was about a native chief who hid his throne upstairs in his hut. When the grass hut caved in from the weight of the throne, the throne landed right on top of him and killed him. The moral of the story: He who lives in grass houses should not stow thrones!

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 09:39 AM
Revelation2:9 I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Yeah we all know you have a long history of tolerance.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 09:44 AM
Repent or else Jesus will fight you with the sword that sticks out of his mouth. Revelation 2:16 Like the limbless knight in Monty Python's "Holy Grail."

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 09:46 AM Edited by arkdanimal on Sun 09/28/08 09:47 AM
Revelation2:9 I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Yeah we all know you have a long history of tolerance. Are you saying I have a long history of tolerance? cause that is peobably not really accurate. I won't go into detail, but about 18 years ago I sold my last harley, gave away all my leathers and "f t w" crap! And decided to try to be the nice guy for a change. I still have to work on it sometimes, but thats OK. It is getting easier to be happy almost all of the time! Love ya

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 09:52 AM
No, I dont even know you. I was addressing your baseless and ungrounded assertions that Muslims are terrible people and Christians are in some respect "better". Better becomes quite subjective when you are all going around killing people. The more devout you are the more you view murder and mayhem as being acceptable. Thats been my observation.

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 09:52 AM
Repent or else Jesus will fight you with the sword that sticks out of his mouth. Revelation 2:16 Like the limbless knight in Monty Python's "Holy Grail." The sword which sticks out of his mouth is HIS TONGUE! "For he will cut you assunder With a mighty swift sword" is the quote. "And the Tongue is a mighty swift sword" is the other half of the quote. There was alot lost in the recording and the translations. Usually carried out by religions. It is hard to forgive people sometimes but It's the only way I can let go of the past.

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 09:55 AM
No, I dont even know you. I was addressing your baseless and ungrounded assertions that Muslims are terrible people and Christians are in some respect "better". Better becomes quite subjective when you are all going around killing people. The more devout you are the more you view murder and mayhem as being acceptable. Thats been my observation. Please read it again. You have misinterpreted what I said!

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 10:01 AM Edited by Krimsa on Sun 09/28/08 10:02 AM
"Unfortunatly, the muslim extemist group that is responsible for many terrorist attacks have decided to only pick at the surface about what the beast is! They honestly believe in there hearts that the U.S. of America is the beast that rose up out of the sea. It is not there fault they believe this, someone afflicted with a vengful heart taught them that. It is there fault that they choose to bring harm to other human beings. But I'm not there judge,God is! Pray for peace,,,please!" --Arkdanimal This was your origional quote. Feel free to explain how it might have been misinterpreted.

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 10:03 AM
Still love ya, no matter what you say or do, I will still love ya!

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Sun 09/28/08 10:04 AM Edited by arkdanimal on Sun 09/28/08 10:08 AM
"Unfortunatly, the muslim extemist group that is responsible for many terrorist attacks have decided to only pick at the surface about what the beast is! They honestly believe in there hearts that the U.S. of America is the beast that rose up out of the sea. It is not there fault they believe this, someone afflicted with a vengful heart taught them that. It is there fault that they choose to bring harm to other human beings. But I'm not there judge,God is! Pray for peace,,,please!" --Arkdanimal This was your origional quote. Feel free to explain how it might have been misinterpreted. "muslim extremist group" not all muslims Do you feel threatened or somethig by what I am saying? If so may I ask why?

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 09/28/08 10:06 AM
There would be no reason for you to be angry with me. I have done nothing to you accept pointed out the absurdity of some of your claims. I or anyone else on forum has that capability.