I already gave all the information needed to obtain the same knowledge I have received. Go get youself some knowledge, put it to use, will gain understanding, and at that moment, if you have an open mind, you will become wise on the subject. I am not the author of wisdom, it comes from within. Seek and you will find!

Didn't say you were the "author of wisdom" i all ready knew that from your post. but when someone states that they have found "THE TRUTH" i would like to know what "EXACTLY" made them think it is so - that entails you to provide how you came to your conclusions - if you refuse then stay mute and stop acting so self righteous and above others ark, that shows your true colors when you do such.

I suppose some day you will find whatever "proof" you want. It's kind of like the gold miner who is looking for gold. He see's a littile gold fleck, and disregards the value of it's surroundings. The only reason the gold itself has any value is because someone believes it does.

Gold in fact has value due to its rarity. Its also considered a quite beautiful precious metal. It has a very low melting point so it can easily be manufactured into jewelry and any number of items for purchase or trade. No need to redefine it.

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Yep, take that into concideration as you also continue to grow and learn ark, no one has all the answers and most of those they do are incorrect. human nature, oh i forgot your not human your spirit right.

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Ark have you gotten the difference between Moses and Jesus sorted yet. That Satan thread you were having some trouble.

I remember Jesus was gliding down the river in a basket to the waiting arms of Pharaohs daughter.

The value of gold today is 856.01 that is a fact.

The value of something that you cannot touch is something much different.

What value have YOU found in what you speak is the question that was posed.

Just like that fleck of gold that was passed by huh?

I look at this two fold....I can see where ark is coming from...because over and over and over I have explained why and who I am right now...Because of things that have been shown to me.....it's something that sometimes even if you explain people will tear down....so then what is the point.....But also you could live to be 1,000 and still not know all....so to claim that is also to me being a hypocrite....

??? did you take an overdose of "arrogant pills" today or what?

??? did you take an overdose of "arrogant pills" today or what?

Since it was brought up let's just study this and people tell me what this means to them......



Genesis 3

1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "

4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"

10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid."

11 And he said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"

12 The man said, "The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."

13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?"
The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."

14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this,
"Cursed are you above all the livestock
and all the wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.

15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring [a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel."

16 To the woman he said,
"I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
with pain you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you."

17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,'
"Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.

18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.

19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return."

20 Adam [c] named his wife Eve, [d] because she would become the mother of all the living.

21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side [e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

It sounds to me that the apples contained some sort of payote, and that Adam and Eve were high.

I found Arkdanimals Moses/Jesus quote. It was on this thread in fact a few pages back.

Although you may have meant it as a joke (which is perfectly fine) the question "who's your daddy" to Jesus, may helps us exlain much. If you will recall, Jesus has an orphaned child (set adrift in the river to hide him from genocide)do to the tryanny of the leader of the state at the time. When he was a child, we can only imagine that he may have asked his adoptive parents who his real daddy was. Their response may well have been somthing along these lines "well my child, your father is in heaven". just a thought!

so,,,what caused the "fall of man"? lying, by satan, while disguised as a beast. get the picture yet? however, the "fall" did not actually occur until Adam answered the question did you partake of the tree of knowledge with something other than yes or no, to the yes or no question! You all have a nice day now!

But where's Lillith in this story, isn't that a lie to not tell of her?

I think Lilith is only mentioned once in the bible itself, but she is included in the Dead Sea Scrolls and also the Book of Enoch? I forget the name. Tribo knows.

Well Lillith and the FIRST Eve's exsistance has been proven, so if it is not spoken about in the bible does it not make the Bible a lie?