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Edited by
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Yeah right, "some" Witches do not worship Satan. Can you hear yourself? You think anyone who is not a practicing Christian is involved with Satan on some level. Thats just paranoia. Its also inaccurate but there is no point in dragging this up again. I also believe that it is very likely Jesus had descendants. There is nothing to dispute that fact that I am aware of. Saying he was "without sin" could mean anything. It seems to me it would have been a sin for him not to participate in a loving relationship with Mary before his demise. 
If this is for me krimsa.......I did not say that if your not practicing being a Christian that you must be involved with satan....please give me a break....again get backed into a wall and you revert to blatant lies. And a sin to you maybe for him not having an affair with Mary.....Mary worshiped him she did not love him in that sense.....and just because you think he should of had sex before he died.....he was brought with a purpose he fulfilled that purpose and that is that. nuff said here too.. |
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Romans 14:14 ESV
I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. |
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Well tribo I was in fact supporting Lily's position. I can see her point. I used the film "The Last Temptation of Christ" as an example. This was a fictitious film about the life and times of Jesus Christ yet when it first premiered and ran in the theaters, fundamentalist Christians turned out in droves to protest it being shown. Why? Because it depicted an intimate sexual relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. 
The "job" of art in any form is to transfer you to another time or place, the only way to do that is to take you there with believeable lies. If it doesn't take you to that time or place, the artist didn't do his/her job. I don't agree with this at all......I look at a sculpture or a painting and I see the beauty of of it.....I am not transformed into or someplace else because of it.....Now writings this would be the case.....but satanic it depends on the writings for example.....imo and just for me...I would never read the Harry Potter series....not this isn't because it's a fiction but more what the fiction is about...which is witchcraft which I do just for me believe is of satan. Feral this is the quote of yours I was referring to. Notice the statement. "which is witchcraft which I do just for me believe is of satan." |
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Feral, Yeah but what point are you making here? I can also show you in Deuteronomy where a cause for stoning ( for males or females) was for the alleged practice of Witchcraft or Sorcery. They were pretty much unreasonable about it. God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan "forever". This promise is still used to justify the unending battles over the land in the Middle East to this very day. An uncircumcised boy is to be abandoned by his parents and community. God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone, he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family.This is done after Lot offers up his daughters to a bunch of angel raping hooligans from town. The entire religion is based on foolish and cruel behavior. Detestable Practices 9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God. yep that pretty much sums up what the Lord thinks of Witchcraft....... Go for it krimsa I would be more then happy to see what you put up there.... It was not acceptable then and it's not now....does it mean that it is not done....nope.....but is it of satan you bet your sweet tennis shoes it is.... |
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Yeah right, "some" Witches do not worship Satan. Can you hear yourself? You think anyone who is not a practicing Christian is involved with Satan on some level. Thats just paranoia. Its also inaccurate but there is no point in dragging this up again. I also believe that it is very likely Jesus had descendants. There is nothing to dispute that fact that I am aware of. Saying he was "without sin" could mean anything. It seems to me it would have been a sin for him not to participate in a loving relationship with Mary before his demise.
If this is for me krimsa.......I did not say that if your not practicing being a Christian that you must be involved with satan....please give me a break....again get backed into a wall and you revert to blatant lies. And a sin to you maybe for him not having an affair with Mary.....Mary worshiped him she did not love him in that sense.....and just because you think he should of had sex before he died.....he was brought with a purpose he fulfilled that purpose and that is that. nuff said here too.. Yes in fact you did just say that and I quoted it. 
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Romans 14:14 ESV I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. Oh this is priceless.......Tell me Lily what does that mean to you? |
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Well tribo I was in fact supporting Lily's position. I can see her point. I used the film "The Last Temptation of Christ" as an example. This was a fictitious film about the life and times of Jesus Christ yet when it first premiered and ran in the theaters, fundamentalist Christians turned out in droves to protest it being shown. Why? Because it depicted an intimate sexual relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene.
The "job" of art in any form is to transfer you to another time or place, the only way to do that is to take you there with believeable lies. If it doesn't take you to that time or place, the artist didn't do his/her job. I don't agree with this at all......I look at a sculpture or a painting and I see the beauty of of it.....I am not transformed into or someplace else because of it.....Now writings this would be the case.....but satanic it depends on the writings for example.....imo and just for me...I would never read the Harry Potter series....not this isn't because it's a fiction but more what the fiction is about...which is witchcraft which I do just for me believe is of satan. Feral this is the quote of yours I was referring to. Notice the statement. "which is witchcraft which I do just for me believe is of satan." and your point....that has never been in dispute that I believe witchcraft is of satan...... |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Thu 10/02/08 05:38 PM
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The point is that is a load of crap and I have shown you this using your own copied and pasted materials in the past. Just because someone is not Christian or chooses another faith does not make them a "worshiper of Satan" automatically. And a belief in Witchcraft certainly does not because the concept of Satan is derived for your own beliefs so clearly you are projecting.
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Yeah right, "some" Witches do not worship Satan. Can you hear yourself? You think anyone who is not a practicing Christian is involved with Satan on some level. Thats just paranoia. Its also inaccurate but there is no point in dragging this up again. I also believe that it is very likely Jesus had descendants. There is nothing to dispute that fact that I am aware of. Saying he was "without sin" could mean anything. It seems to me it would have been a sin for him not to participate in a loving relationship with Mary before his demise.
If this is for me krimsa.......I did not say that if your not practicing being a Christian that you must be involved with satan....please give me a break....again get backed into a wall and you revert to blatant lies. And a sin to you maybe for him not having an affair with Mary.....Mary worshiped him she did not love him in that sense.....and just because you think he should of had sex before he died.....he was brought with a purpose he fulfilled that purpose and that is that. nuff said here too.. Yes in fact you did just say that and I quoted it.
What I said had nothing to do with a person if they weren't a Christian that is what I said was a lie.....Do I believe that witchcraft is of satan....yes sir re. |
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The point is that is a load of crap and I have shown you this using your own copied and pasted materials in the past. Honey the only thing that I am copying and pasting is scrupture........... |
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Well as shown, you are wrong on both counts.
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The point is that is a load of crap and I have shown you this using your own copied and pasted materials in the past. Honey the only thing that I am copying and pasting is scrupture........... Im talking about the previous argument. When you had copied and pasted all of that information about Paganism and Witchcraft before reading it and I found the two sections discussing Neo paganism and Witchcraft indicating they held no belief in Satan.You had a fit.
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Romans 14:14 ESV I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. Oh this is priceless.......Tell me Lily what does that mean to you? I cant speak for Lily but to me it means that crazy people will misinterpret the scripture in whatever manner they want and see devils everywhere even when it has clearly been demonstrated to them that they are projecting their own fears onto others. |
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The two most ridicuolus things people argue over
Politics & Religion... Seriously |
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The point is that is a load of crap and I have shown you this using your own copied and pasted materials in the past. Honey the only thing that I am copying and pasting is scrupture........... Im talking about the previous argument. When you had copied and pasted all of that information about Paganism and Witchcraft before reading it and I found the two sections discussing Neo paganism and Witchcraft indicating they held no belief in Satan.You had a fit.
You were talking about now.....don't bring past crap into it krimsa.....I only copy and paste when it's necessary to prove a point...and when I do this is what you always do......Once again your backed into a corner and fight anyway you can to get out.....I have clearly stated always what "I" feel about witchcraft......never said their were not bad or good witches just to me doesn't matter...because it is all of satan.....pretty simple...and ask me again and I will say the same. Does this mean they can't go on doing what they wish...not at all. |
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Romans 14:14 ESV I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. Oh this is priceless.......Tell me Lily what does that mean to you? Nothing, I thought we were just throwing out random Bible verses that didn't mean anything to anyone....My bad. |
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ok lily that is what I thought...but wanted to make sure...
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I'm pretty sure the point of the thread was if lieing was a mark of the devil, and I'm pretty sure many of us put that to rest in many different ways.
I'm not sure why we are debating if Pagans worship Satan.... I've been studying Paganism since I was 18, and never once did we even mention Satan. He is a Christian concept, and we are not Christian so I'm not sure why he gets lumped in with us. It's your hell, you burn in it. |
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lily said: Lying is presenting a false statement period.whether or not you intend to deceive, humor, or manipulate. tribo replies: does this hold true if you don't know what your saying is a lie? If your color blind and someone tells you that red and yellow make green and they have no way to judge the truth or falsity of the statement made - is that, in your opinion, a lie? Can you be absolutely sure that the comment you make above is the truth without the intent of others who say differentlly? Is there only room for your truth as compared to mine or others? what is truth? I'm the law....
I see your point to an extent. Any statement that is not true is by definition a lie. If someone told you something was blue and you were colorblind and didn't see that it was red and then you told someone that it was blue it is a lie. You're intent was not to lie but what you did was convey a lie that was told to you, that doesn't make it true. Did it all of a sudden become blue or is it still red? It is red, saying it's blue doesn't make it so. Then again my lady, i have to ask - What is truth? |
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