I was talking to God the other day and He told me you don't exist.

Absolutely not. This post stands. The Muslim woman rejected no one. She was happy and content to be a Muslim for her entire life and now she will be going to hell because she was murdered but according to your theory, she will be bound for hell because she chose not to accept Jesus as her personal savior.

I am SPEAKING TO THE CHRISTIANS and asking why they can have such blatant disregard for the exact words taken from their OWN scripture. Now answer if you will sir. I await with baited breath your response.

I have an answer... I'm sure you won't like that either.

It's called get a spine.

Yes, I agree the God that is spoken about should indeed get a spine....

Leave it to the Pagans to actually have a real grasp on some of this.

WOW! Since you are the original poster & posted with that thought in mind that makes YOU & you alone, the hypocrite!

The insults thrown around here were at Christians who BTW, have been explaining in good faith only to be put down by none other than the person who asked the question. I just read through the posts today...gobs & gobs of hate from people who really don't know better.

WOW! some accomplishment.

That's why the silence is so deafening....to answer your own question.

My religion is the only true and right religion FOR ME.

My 86 year old beautiful soul of an aunt's religion is the only true and right one FOR HER.

It's about what gets you through the day and what makes you a better person, not Holier than thou and how can I use my religion to bash someone else, or beat them into submission with it....

"...according to you she is bound for hell..."

I will mail you my paychecks for the rest of my life if you can find a quote from me stating this anywhere on this entire site. Please don't put words in my mouth. I said "she would not be spending eternity with the Christian God in his heaven." NOT that she is bound for hell. The only one's speaking about hell on this thread are the non-christians.



If the "killer" comes to the realization that he is a sinner (or was...) and realizes that Jesus died for his sins to reconcile him to God and asks God for forgiveness - the bible says he will be in Heaven with Jesus. I don't say anything about where he'll be - I didn't write the book.



Good - then don't start saying "You think", or "Christians think", and I won't pretend to claim I know how you think. I might ask you what you think, but I don't read minds, so I don't pretend to know how you think.

The thing is - I answer all of your questions directly. Always have, always will.

Physician heal thyself...

I was pointing out the OBVIOUS.

I never said any one person was anything doll, if you identify yourself in one of those catagories, that's on you... personally I don't read most of your posts as they are out of hate for non-believers and not out of a place of love of YOUR religion...

So if you identify then it's your insecurity of YOUR religion not my issue.

Wow. If the shoe fits...

The Muslim woman will not be in heaven with God and Jesus. That is what Abra's OP stated, and that is always how I've responded. Who said she was going to hell? Oh - You did.

Are you asking me if she is going to hell?

If so - here's my answer:

I don't know WHERE she's going. But if she doesn't want to be in heaven with Jesus, she won't be.

And you can quote me on that.

Are you joking? Oh, for pete's sake, Eljay, get a spine. Now its well she wont go directly to hell, but she certainly wont spend eternity with some fake godhead up in the clouds wearing white robes. Please...You are embarrassing yourself

And once again, now you are afraid to admit that you said that if the sociopath that actually brutally murdered the Muslim girl simply "finds Jesus" while in prison, he will manage to get into heaven. Now its "I didn't write this book." Hey, I wouldn't stand behind it either. Dont blame you there.

Eljay I could not care less what you think about me on any personal level. The same would apply as it relates to my feelings towards you. I am simply asking that you show some backbone. You should have developed one by now if evolution had anything to do with it. Say what you mean and make your point here. If I ask you a direct question, I would greatly appreciate a direct response in return.



Purgatory definition-The word "purgatory" has come to refer to a wide range of historical and modern conceptions of postmortem suffering short of everlasting damnation, and is used, in a non-specific sense, to mean any place or condition of suffering or torment, especially one that is temporary.

Well, if we're going with the "Mr. Spock" logical game face, you'd find me in person to be very like that, sticking more to the logical than the emotional. Having doctors tell you you're probably going to die unless you choose between several not-so-hot alternatives to save your life sort of does that to a survivor.

And I'm not running for the office of 'God', I can't be Sainted because I'm not Catholic, and no, I haven't done an injustice to anyone that I recall in my lifetime. When my divorce attorney told me my Catholic ex (who was divorcing _me_ BTW, for 'incompatibility after 10 yrs of marriage) was asking for things she wasn't legally entitled to, I told him, to my own detriment, to give her everything she was asking for.

If only the pure in heart can ask questions, it makes me wonder what there is to hide. I don't think my not being Catholic or Christian is an injustice to anyone.

-Kerry O.

Well, since I've stated I don't know where she'll go, but I know where she won't be - then you tell me, Where is she going to end up? I'm under the impression that you think you know. Or are you in agreement with me on my perception?



I'm not afraid to admit anythig. I don't infuse my interpretation of the text with my perceptions and infer that it is representative of "fact". I will say that I find the text to be believable. So it is for that reason I can state that if he has repented and put his faith in Jesus, he will spend eternity in heaven with Him.



I'm being very careful to respond to your questions with what the text says, Krimsa - and I do so out of respect for you (whether you believe it or not) because I do not intend to sway your opinion of what you ask one way or the other by infusing my perception on textual interpretation.
The extensive exegesis on "where does one end up if blaspheming the holy spirit" would fill a book - so cutting and pasting all of that onto the site would serve no purpose. No matter what anyone posts on "where they think" someone will end up, the only person who can be spoken for is ourselves - for we ultimately stand in judgement of ourselves only. To me - this is what is meant by "giving account for your life".

Now if that is a response without a backbone, then what are you asking me to do - embellish my answers and infuse them with opinion? Are you asking me where they are going - or where I "think" they should be going? I responded to the former, because that is what you asked. If what you meant was the latter - than have a backbone, and say what you mean.



Purgatory is a term out of Catholicism - and is not referenced anywhere in scripture. It is religious dogma - and in my opinion, does not exist. The same would be said for "Limbo".

If you were talking to god larry, did he give you my nickname yet?

Yes, I knew this about you (the logical end) and that you have had health issues in the past. I did not know about your relationship history - I empathise with you, having gone through a similarity.

So - now the only question is whether the issue is quantitative or quality. Is it okay to lie every now and then - but murder is just too much?
Can you "steal every now and then", as long as you balance it out with philanthropic endeavors.
If one sees an injustice being done by some else - and does nothing about it, have they "done nothing wrong" because they chose to do nothing?

Not to be "accusatory" about any injustices you may or may not have done - but it deals directly with the heart of the question being asked by viewing what people do and passing judgement on whether their actions are considered "unforgivable", and if so - what is the standard being established?

That was sort of the point I was making - rather than you having to examine your actions in light of what others do.


(Have I just started another thread?)

I forgot to ask. Was it "Yosemitee"?

the whole line of this question is flawed from the start because the idea of death bed confessions are more out of self preservation rather than truth, the point is they are rarley sincere.

but to answer the question yes if in fact it was sincere and honest asking of forgiveness of this sins then yes he will make it in to heaven.


oh and chosing to disbelieve is rejection because you reject the idea of a Jesus or heaven or hell. so its rebelling against the thought going on your own personal ideas and thought.

you dont have to believe in Jesus but dont be mad when you dont make it to heanen, i also never understood the idea of how everyone should be allowed there thoughts and ideas and all have a right to their opinion except us chritians then we are labels as brain washed or intolorant, just my thought!

First off take yourself out of your own head and re-read what you wrote...

"chosing to disbelieve is rejection" I have a belief system... it's just not yours.

In that case I call everyone who is not Pagan a rebel and the Goddess won't be kind to you on your day of reconing...

"hahaha my Godess loves me and not you, she will treat me good and you bad so when I die I will be special and you won't." Isn't that what kids say to their brothers and sisters about being mom's favorite?

I'm sorry but my Goddess will treat you like you are her child, she will look at your actions in life and treat you accordingly.

You don't have to believe in Her, She believes in you no matter what. If you are Christian or Buddhist, or jewish...She doesn't care, your character and what you did for your fellow man means more to her than how much you love Her.

Do I judge Christians... only the ones who spew hate instead of love (but those aren't real Christians anyway so it's kind of a moot point)...Yes sir I do. See my Goddess taught me to accept other beliefs, to treat others with the same respect they treat me with.

One of the first rules of paganism is to NOT prostilitize... We don't want a bunch of sheep. We don't want the blind. We don't want you unless you truely believe, and if you truely believe then and only then can you do any good to the religion.