Sweetie. you need to pay attention to what i type. I said most. and yes it goes for guys to Don't take this wrong, but why don't people pay attention to what there reading?

right on ! bro ! I think there is some brain damage out there !

Most......you may as well said all.......why say most at all if you dont really mean all???? and I was paying attention....generalization.......that is what I see. I see alot of broken people saying they didnt get with the good looking girl because they did this or that!!! Why not just be real and say........you werent right for one another?>??? Why bring looks into it at all???

we just get intimidated thats all

OK i guess i'm going to have to put it this way How long have you know me? and have i ever ment anything about gender as all being that way?

I know they do!!!! And I say stop the insanity and quit doing that!!!

I told the Dr., "it hurts when I do this"........

me sorry...i will try harder

Its so easy to throw the towel and generalize how women are or how men are............but see if that is the type of person you are then I feel sorry for you..........i think the term of retreat encompasses the word coward.........look when you were a baby you learned how to walk but by doing that you fell sometimes, you hurt yourself, and you bumped into things but you didnt give up and your parents didnt say forget it, its going to hurt him/her and just let you sit in your high chair for the rest of your life................well life is that obstacles and hurt feelings but thats what makes life even more meaningful is that you have those experiences and you learn from them you dont sit and give up and dig a hole (shoot let the damn beavers or dogs do that).................

OK,,there are very FEW women who DO NOT WANT THEIR EQUAL,,,as MOST MEN ALSO..
In other words a beautiful person (IF THEY FEEL THEY ARE ONE) wants the same or CLOSE to it in their mind..
YES,,there are exceptions,,,but FEW,,,,

A slim fit lady,,,wants a slim or stocky fit dude.
and vice-versa.

So to see another as their type to be,,,,in MOST cases its ALOT of a reflection to what THEY ARE!

And general looking people are MORE opened minded to NOT having GREAT preferences in another.

Same income, wink,or BETTER,,,lol
same outlooks to NOT smoking, Not over-doing ANYTHING MUCH,,and keeping active at the gym or more or less,,,the same or comparing life styles...
THATS MY ASSESMENT,,,,wink,,,
Let the games begain,lol,lol
NO GUNS please...lol

when you find out
let me know

what I mean by out of their league is a man thinking the woman is unapproachable or they think that since the woman is a good woman,that they don't deserve her....I have noticed that a lot of men want a good woman yet when a good woman steps in their path, they decide the woman is too good.
It makes it even harder to figure out what exactly it is they are looking for

who cares what they want???? Just tell them what they want!!! and they will smile while you do this!!!

Saves time.

If YOU want to know what THEY want,,,if HE'S HONEST he will tell you.
But many men and women MAKE EXCUSES to another because THEY just FEEL THEM,,,not their pick...so when they vent of it they say OH, SHE WAS WAY OUT OF MY LEAGUE, but in reality, THEY DIDN'T even TRY!
So find a man who will TALK to you and be honest with you THEN,,,YOU WON'T have ANY unanswered questions,wink..

" Out of their League "...well...there are only so many times a guy with any sense will allow himself to get bitten by the same dog, before he stops going near the dog. That may sound harsh, but that's just the way it is. A person gets kicked enough times, they get tired of being kicked, so they just cover up.

Call it insecure if you want. Like I have said before, I'm fine with who I am. I have just been bitten enough times to be very wary of who I decide to approach.

Out of my league? Depends upon your goal and your game. The potential for true love is what I have to offer; it is the same for each of us...except for those with more to offer.

I've known gorgeous ladies, and they have their own game. (By known, I mean I lived with and loved wholeheartedly.) They had different methods and expectations than their friends, and also gave their gf advice and help. There are 'givens' to each type of game, for beautiful ladies and for others. I've heard the conversations, and it is real. True love is the common goal, but the methods the apply are varied depending on needs and situations of each player.

Just my opinion.

It comes down to execution.

I mean if some person was going to come up to me and say something that seems rather pointless . . . well there you go. Its going to be awkward, and who the hell knows what to say at that point.

If someone . . . and I mean anyone comes up and says something funny, or has a point related to what I am watching /discussing with friends or whatever the context of the setting I am in, then I will respond positively to that person . . . as would any outgoing person I would hope.

The problem with this thread is that each person here has different experiences, and each person is taking there opinion out of context of there experiences. Nothing wrong with that, but you really have to think about the ideal situation, not the half assd attempts you prob made that have left an impression on you.

If I am sitting alone at a bar watching a live band and someone walks up and says hell of a band . . . I am going to look at them, and respond with my opinion . . . while smiling becuase I love when people take the time to interact, I really cant imagine its any different for women.

If I where to look up judge the book by its cover then proceeded to be rude . . . well then Id just be a jack@ss wouldn't I . . . and you would know immediately that I was not worth your time.

I am that person everywhere I go. I AM going to interact with you . . . if that makes you uncomfortable oh F#$@ing well . . . lade Fu@#*ng DA. If you respond in a rude manner, Im not going to get sassy back . . . im just going to jot down mentally your face and remember to avoid you and if you cross my path again ill make sure to remember your rudeness . . . never know when you might come to me for help and my elephant memory will turn a blind eye.