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I have heard that the Nephilim still exist today. It is rumored that the giantism effect has been overcome and most of them look just like the rest of the population. JB Since this is a biblical account - that of the Nephilim - they would have all perished in the flood, so the existance of the Nephilim today would be just that - a rumor. I don't think so. There are many possibilities and reasons to believe that they are still are here. 1. The alleged flood did not occurr 2. The flood did not cover the entire earth at once. 3. Many people including Nephilim escaped the flood by going deep under ground. 4. The mating of "fallen angels" (aliens in my book) and humans continued after the flood. The story that they all died in the flood does not hold water. I am of the opinion that the "dragon race" still exists on this planet (and so do a few giants who are considered genetic throwbacks.) These genetic difference can be proven but they are hidden and covered up. Yep... there you have it..... another conspiracy theory. JB |
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Inspired by god: Being an artist, I feel that many creative endeavors are inspired by "god." Leaning toward pantheism, I feel that inspiration originates from our eternal connection to prime source and our higher selves. Particularly our higher selves, because they are developed 'persons' or individuals, while prime source Itself is simply raw creative power in my opinion. wouldn't the beauty of art reside in the eye of the beholder and not God because if 'God inspired one's raw creative power then everyone would see everyone's art as being beauty ??????? your question does not compute. When a preacher is "called" to his mission, or when a person feels compelled to help someone in need, I believe they are "inspired by god." wouldn't a "just" person do a "just" deed inspired by none but themself ???????? maybe, but the question is irrelevant to my statement of belief. We are creative beings. We get inspired by god and god is everywhere we look. So I don't think the men who wrote the Bible are any more or less than any other writer or artist who creates a book or painting. It is natural to be inspired by god. That does not make the Bible any more or less than any other scripture or book. JB in this instance you are applying your belief to all without consideration to none I am expressing my opinion, not other people's opinions. JB |
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Inspired by god: Being an artist, I feel that many creative endeavors are inspired by "god." Leaning toward pantheism, I feel that inspiration originates from our eternal connection to prime source and our higher selves. Particularly our higher selves, because they are developed 'persons' or individuals, while prime source Itself is simply raw creative power in my opinion. wouldn't the beauty of art reside in the eye of the beholder and not God because if 'God inspired one's raw creative power then everyone would see everyone's art as being beauty ??????? your question does not compute. "JennieBean" it means if you need God to inspire you it's not your raw creative power or vision ... it's God's ..it suggest that you're little more than a robotic paint brush When a preacher is "called" to his mission, or when a person feels compelled to help someone in need, I believe they are "inspired by god." wouldn't a "just" person do a "just" deed inspired by none but themself ???????? maybe, but the question is irrelevant to my statement of belief. sorry "JennieBean" but how is that possible when you tend to remind us that your belief has no belief ..your God has no rules or laws and therefore you should have no statement of belief We are creative beings. We get inspired by god and god is everywhere we look. So I don't think the men who wrote the Bible are any more or less than any other writer or artist who creates a book or painting. It is natural to be inspired by god. That does not make the Bible any more or less than any other scripture or book. JB in this instance you are applying your belief to all without consideration to none I am expressing my opinion, not other people's opinions. JB "JennieBean" you are trying to dictate that your opinion is and shall be everyone's opinion .. which is the same as you dictating your own religion ...me or else |
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I cant wait to read The Book Of Funches
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Since the topic is about the third testament?? How many testaments are there??
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Since the topic is about the third testament?? How many testaments are there?? In Theaters Soon! "Testament: The III" |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 07/31/08 06:31 PM
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??????? your question does not compute. "JennieBean" it means if you need God to inspire you it's not your raw creative power or vision ... it's God's ..it suggest that you're little more than a robotic paint brush Funches, that is your opinion. I don't consider myself to be separate from "GOD." Therefore I inspire myself. I AM. funches said: wouldn't a "just" person do a "just" deed inspired by none but themself ???????? maybe, but the question is irrelevant to my statement of belief. FUNCHES SAID; sorry "JennieBean" but how is that possible when you tend to remind us that your belief has no belief ..your God has no rules or laws and therefore you should have no statement of belief You are confused funches. I said that my beliefs are not a religion, and they are only temporary conclusions. (I am not trying to found a new religion and gain converts. (however if you want to make a donation to my church... I will tell you how you can do that. LOL. We have hot tubs and a wide screen television and wine every Wednesday night.) And those who do not believe will go to my first dimension Hell. I am expressing my opinion, not other people's opinions. JB "JennieBean" you are trying to dictate that your opinion is and shall be everyone's opinion .. which is the same as you dictating your own religion ...me or else I am not! People have the right to choose whatever they want to believe. (Its just that if they don't believe like me they will go to my first dimension HELL. But that's their choice. ( --INSERT EVIL LAUGH HERE-- BUHA HS HA HA HA!!: pitchfork: ) Now funches go to your corner and flog yourself into a stupor. That's a command from your mistress goddess. JB |
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Since the topic is about the third testament?? How many testaments are there?? In Theaters Soon! "Testament: The III" |
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I have heard that the Nephilim still exist today. It is rumored that the giantism effect has been overcome and most of them look just like the rest of the population. JB Since this is a biblical account - that of the Nephilim - they would have all perished in the flood, so the existance of the Nephilim today would be just that - a rumor. I don't think so. There are many possibilities and reasons to believe that they are still are here. 1. The alleged flood did not occurr 2. The flood did not cover the entire earth at once. 3. Many people including Nephilim escaped the flood by going deep under ground. 4. The mating of "fallen angels" (aliens in my book) and humans continued after the flood. The story that they all died in the flood does not hold water. I am of the opinion that the "dragon race" still exists on this planet (and so do a few giants who are considered genetic throwbacks.) These genetic difference can be proven but they are hidden and covered up. Yep... there you have it..... another conspiracy theory. JB If the flood didn't occur - Nephilim do not exist. The two are biblical references. If one holds true - the other must. They are mutually inclusive. Your theory would then only hold true if you were to find the Nephilim refered to in a document outside of scripture, which does not refer to it. But then - wait, you'd then have something to support scripture. |
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Edited by
tribo
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Fri 08/01/08 07:54 AM
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i believe a flood occurred, the problem is with - did it occur around the globe? I believe it did not - the reference to the "whole world" was not a reference to the whole planet, just the world known at the time of it's writing. Therefore the Nephilim could easily have survived in other places besides the mediterranean area.
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Funches, that is your opinion. I don't consider myself to be separate from "GOD." Therefore I inspire myself. I AM. "JennieBean" ..first you said that God inspired you now you say that you inspired yourself and then you use the God-phrase "I AM" ...haven't you notice that you are emulating The Holy Trinity .. you can take JennieBean out of the religion but you can't that the religion out of JennieBean You are confused funches. I said that my beliefs are not a religion, and they are only temporary conclusions. (I am not trying to found a new religion and gain converts. (however if you want to make a donation to my church... I will tell you how you can do that. LOL. We have hot tubs and a wide screen television and wine every Wednesday night.) And those who do not believe will go to my first dimension Hell. if your God has no right or wrongs then neither should you ...once you claim that you have opinions as to what is right or wrong you at that point in time create religion .. according to your belief or the fact that you worship a God that has no beliefs would indicate that you are suppose to exist with no concepts of morality in concert with that of an ameoba ..eat have sex take a dump ..well not exactly in that order ..but to have beliefs beyond those functions as to what is right or wrong is you contradicting your God I am not! People have the right to choose whatever they want to believe. (Its just that if they don't believe like me they will go to my first dimension HELL. But that's their choice. ( --INSERT EVIL LAUGH HERE-- BUHA HS HA HA HA!!: pitchfork: ) Now funches go to your corner and flog yourself into a stupor. That's a command from your mistress goddess. JB yes Mistress |
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I have heard that the Nephilim still exist today. It is rumored that the giantism effect has been overcome and most of them look just like the rest of the population. JB Since this is a biblical account - that of the Nephilim - they would have all perished in the flood, so the existance of the Nephilim today would be just that - a rumor. I don't think so. There are many possibilities and reasons to believe that they are still are here. 1. The alleged flood did not occurr 2. The flood did not cover the entire earth at once. 3. Many people including Nephilim escaped the flood by going deep under ground. 4. The mating of "fallen angels" (aliens in my book) and humans continued after the flood. The story that they all died in the flood does not hold water. I am of the opinion that the "dragon race" still exists on this planet (and so do a few giants who are considered genetic throwbacks.) These genetic difference can be proven but they are hidden and covered up. Yep... there you have it..... another conspiracy theory. JB If the flood didn't occur - Nephilim do not exist. The two are biblical references. If one holds true - the other must. They are mutually inclusive. Your theory would then only hold true if you were to find the Nephilim refered to in a document outside of scripture, which does not refer to it. But then - wait, you'd then have something to support scripture. "Eljay" does bring up a good point that can't be overlooked ..The Flood ...clearly God meant to drown everyone that wasn't on the ark and had already foreseen that it would take exactly 40 days and nights to accomplish this ..so no matter where anyone hid including the Nephilim the water would find them |
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Nephilim were big people. Not the children of angels or anything supernatural. In Numbers, we learn that the children of Anak were called Nephilim. The Anakites (sons of Anak) were a tribe in Canaan which was largely destroyed during the conquest of Canaan. They were probably large people, like the Norsemen of Europe. Due to difficulty of travel and the subsequent inbreeding, isolated cultures used to produce strange anomalies (like the giant sized Anakites and Norsemen and the miniature Pygmies of Africa).
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 08/01/08 08:07 AM
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I have heard that the Nephilim still exist today. It is rumored that the giantism effect has been overcome and most of them look just like the rest of the population. JB Since this is a biblical account - that of the Nephilim - they would have all perished in the flood, so the existance of the Nephilim today would be just that - a rumor. I don't think so. There are many possibilities and reasons to believe that they are still are here. p.s. 1. The alleged flood did not occurr 2. The flood did not cover the entire earth at once. 3. Many people including Nephilim escaped the flood by going deep under ground. 4. The mating of "fallen angels" (aliens in my book) and humans continued after the flood. The story that they all died in the flood does not hold water. I am of the opinion that the "dragon race" still exists on this planet (and so do a few giants who are considered genetic throwbacks.) These genetic difference can be proven but they are hidden and covered up. Yep... there you have it..... another conspiracy theory. JB If the flood didn't occur - Nephilim do not exist. The two are biblical references. If one holds true - the other must. They are mutually inclusive. Your theory would then only hold true if you were to find the Nephilim refered to in a document outside of scripture, which does not refer to it. But then - wait, you'd then have something to support scripture. That is a ridiculous idea. If one holds true, the other must? I guess there is a sucker born every moment. All I have to do then to convince people of something is to write a book with a few true facts in it and stick in the lies and people with believe the entire book. Not. Where do you get these ideas? Mixing truth with lies has been an all time standard way to spread propaganda now and throughout history. The Bible myth was set within real history and real places with some real people in order to convince them and you of just the thing you suggest here. Duh.. geeee, it must all be true then. I know you are smarter than that. (Nephilim are mentioned in the book of Enoch) Secondly, I have ALWAYS said that I consider all information and that all information has some truth and some agenda. I would never conclude that because a book has some truth that it must be all true, or because a book has some untruth that it must be all untrue. Thirdly, the Bible is not just one book but a bunch of books written by different people and I believe that a lot of it is plagiarized myths and some of it is an outright forgery. JB |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 08/01/08 08:05 AM
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"Eljay" does bring up a good point that can't be overlooked ..The Flood ...clearly God meant to drown everyone that wasn't on the ark and had already foreseen that it would take exactly 40 days and nights to accomplish this ..so no matter where anyone hid including the Nephilim the water would find them
If there was a flood, the people had no way of knowing if it was covering the entire globe, they just assumed it was because they assumed and thought the world was flat and there was water every direction they looked. If you go out into the ocean you can see the same thing. Water in every direction you look, no land to be seen. You might be convinced that the world was all water. Also, some of the people may have been saved and taken to underground cities along with the Nephilim. There can be no way to really be sure. People like to think they all got killed in the flood, but I seriously doubt that. If it weren't for the fact that they are mentioned briefly in the Bible Christians would scoff at their existence entirely. But because they are of the mind set to believe anything in the Bible they have to admit they existed and believe in them. JB |
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Edited by
tribo
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Fri 08/01/08 08:10 AM
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"Eljay" does bring up a good point that can't be overlooked ..The Flood ...clearly God meant to drown everyone that wasn't on the ark and had already foreseen that it would take exactly 40 days and nights to accomplish this ..so no matter where anyone hid including the Nephilim the water would find them
If there was a flood, the people had no way of knowing if it was covering the entire globe, the just assumed it was because they assumed and thought the world was flat and there was water every direction they looked. If you go out into the ocean you can see the same thing. Water in every direction you look, no land to be seen. You might be convinced that the world was all water. Also, some of the people may have been saved and taken to underground cities along with the Nephilim. There can be no way to really be sure. People like to think they all got killed in the flood, but I seriously doubt that. JB, if you read my post above you will see I'm stating the same - anytime the phrase used in the bible or even outside the bible in those days were a reference to the then known world of the ancients, they did not speak from a modern understanding of the now present global world, as late as the 5th century we have writing making the statement that for instance a plague had swept the "whole world" and then talk of the areas that were known then, not now. if nothing else ancient documents back this up completely, further you could be right about subterranean caverns being so deep like under the ocean itself that an alien race could have escaped to also. but for here in this space time life we have or know - the flood was a specific area phenomena. And then there is also dimensional escape also, which is my holding. |
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i believe a flood occurred, the problem is with - did it occur around the globe? I believe it did not - the reference to the "whole world" was not a reference to the whole planet, just the world known at the time of it's writing. Therefore the Nephilim could easily have survived in other places besides the mediterranean area. Well - since this is a biblical concept, you're ignoring Genesis 6:7 which essentially says that God intends to wipe mankind, animals, creatures from the ground, and birds of the air - off the face of the earth. That would tend to account for just about everything that wasn't on that Ark. Sort of trumps your interpretation. |
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I have heard that the Nephilim still exist today. It is rumored that the giantism effect has been overcome and most of them look just like the rest of the population. JB Since this is a biblical account - that of the Nephilim - they would have all perished in the flood, so the existance of the Nephilim today would be just that - a rumor. I don't think so. There are many possibilities and reasons to believe that they are still are here. p.s. 1. The alleged flood did not occurr 2. The flood did not cover the entire earth at once. 3. Many people including Nephilim escaped the flood by going deep under ground. 4. The mating of "fallen angels" (aliens in my book) and humans continued after the flood. The story that they all died in the flood does not hold water. I am of the opinion that the "dragon race" still exists on this planet (and so do a few giants who are considered genetic throwbacks.) These genetic difference can be proven but they are hidden and covered up. Yep... there you have it..... another conspiracy theory. JB If the flood didn't occur - Nephilim do not exist. The two are biblical references. If one holds true - the other must. They are mutually inclusive. Your theory would then only hold true if you were to find the Nephilim refered to in a document outside of scripture, which does not refer to it. But then - wait, you'd then have something to support scripture. That is a ridiculous idea. If one holds true, the other must? I guess there is a sucker born every moment. All I have to do then to convince people of something is to write a book with a few true facts in it and stick in the lies and people with believe the entire book. Not. Where do you get these ideas? Mixing truth with lies has been an all time standard way to spread propaganda now and throughout history. The Bible myth was set within real history and real places with some real people in order to convince them and you of just the thing you suggest here. Duh.. geeee, it must all be true then. I know you are smarter than that. (Nephilim are mentioned in the book of Enoch) Secondly, I have ALWAYS said that I consider all information and that all information has some truth and some agenda. I would never conclude that because a book has some truth that it must be all true, or because a book has some untruth that it must be all untrue. Thirdly, the Bible is not just one book but a bunch of books written by different people and I believe that a lot of it is plagiarized myths and some of it is an outright forgery. JB Ummm - Yeah Jeannie. It's called Logic. Which says that if a myth holds itself true - than everything in that myth is true. You don't get to pick and chose what you want to believe and then claim it as truth. |
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Fri 08/01/08 08:45 AM
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i believe a flood occurred, the problem is with - did it occur around the globe? I believe it did not - the reference to the "whole world" was not a reference to the whole planet, just the world known at the time of it's writing. Therefore the Nephilim could easily have survived in other places besides the Mediterranean area. Well - since this is a biblical concept, you're ignoring Genesis 6:7 which essentially says that God intends to wipe mankind, animals, creatures from the ground, and birds of the air - off the face of the earth. That would tend to account for just about everything that wasn't on that Ark. Sort of trumps your interpretation. nope not at all - think eljay, - where was man located then? upon "all" the known earth as we know it today? of course not it was there in the beginning where the flood took place not the entire globe, unless you believe that man in such a short time had populated the entire planet as we know it today, do you? since were only talking a "few generations of man at that point this does not hold truth in my estimation of what i read. This would hold true for other life also, why bother flooding the whole globe? Had all the animals present in the garden and vicinity produced at such speed that the inhabited the entire earth by then? Did Adam really name all the animals as we know of today? Or just the ones present in the garden? Your thinking is to modernistic eljay, put yourself in the time and circumstances that were - not present day times. If you want to believe it's true, be my guest, but it's not in my opinion. Even Paul when stating the gospel had been preached around the world did not mean the whole globe, only the world that was know by him and all others 'AT THE TIME" |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 08/01/08 08:36 AM
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I have heard that the Nephilim still exist today. It is rumored that the giantism effect has been overcome and most of them look just like the rest of the population. JB Since this is a biblical account - that of the Nephilim - they would have all perished in the flood, so the existance of the Nephilim today would be just that - a rumor. I don't think so. There are many possibilities and reasons to believe that they are still are here. p.s. 1. The alleged flood did not occurr 2. The flood did not cover the entire earth at once. 3. Many people including Nephilim escaped the flood by going deep under ground. 4. The mating of "fallen angels" (aliens in my book) and humans continued after the flood. The story that they all died in the flood does not hold water. I am of the opinion that the "dragon race" still exists on this planet (and so do a few giants who are considered genetic throwbacks.) These genetic difference can be proven but they are hidden and covered up. Yep... there you have it..... another conspiracy theory. JB If the flood didn't occur - Nephilim do not exist. The two are biblical references. If one holds true - the other must. They are mutually inclusive. Your theory would then only hold true if you were to find the Nephilim refered to in a document outside of scripture, which does not refer to it. But then - wait, you'd then have something to support scripture. That is a ridiculous idea. If one holds true, the other must? I guess there is a sucker born every moment. All I have to do then to convince people of something is to write a book with a few true facts in it and stick in the lies and people with believe the entire book. Not. Where do you get these ideas? Mixing truth with lies has been an all time standard way to spread propaganda now and throughout history. The Bible myth was set within real history and real places with some real people in order to convince them and you of just the thing you suggest here. Duh.. geeee, it must all be true then. I know you are smarter than that. (Nephilim are mentioned in the book of Enoch) Secondly, I have ALWAYS said that I consider all information and that all information has some truth and some agenda. I would never conclude that because a book has some truth that it must be all true, or because a book has some untruth that it must be all untrue. Thirdly, the Bible is not just one book but a bunch of books written by different people and I believe that a lot of it is plagiarized myths and some of it is an outright forgery. JB Ummm - Yeah Jeannie. It's called Logic. Which says that if a myth holds itself true - than everything in that myth is true. You don't get to pick and chose what you want to believe and then claim it as truth. I am quite sure there is more than one myth and more than one book and more than one story in that collection of books you call the Bible. They were even written at different times and by different authors. Just because the Church fathers put them together and called them "Gods' gospel" that does not make them infallible or completely true. And yes I certainly do get to pick and chose what I believe could be truth and what I think is a lie. It is very illogical to think that everything in the Bible is either true or false. I at least give the Bible a little bit of credit for having some truth in it as I believe all information is valid in some way. No information is either all true or all false. None. You may live in a black and white world Eljay but this is not a black and white world. JB |
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