I find that quite humerous. From reading your posts, I would say that you have no understanding - let alone a clear one - of biblical concepts or exegesis. Do you find it odd that you - a nonchristian are more aware of biblical concepts than those with doctrates in biblical theology? Where have you been hiding all of these years. The world has been waiting for this particular insight that you exclusively have. Tell me - how did you come about this clarity? Angels been visiting you with tablets lately?

He wasn't. I wasn't refering to Jesus in the example. I was responding to your asking why Jesus didn't approach the leaders of the temple - who you have presumed would have been eager to hear of his objections. It's like approaching the mob and asking them not to charge "protection fee's" to small business'. That's what you are presuming he should have done.



Yes he knew - but I don't see the point you're trying to make.



He wasn't. Who's saying he was?



Like I said - we have diffrent idea's of the concept of "rightiousness".

well "Eljay"... I'm glad you admitted it...that rightousness is only "a concept" which mean it's not an absolute and lies only in the eye of the beholder

and you're also right that we both have different views about what rightousness is...you equate rightousness with acts of violence when needed and I equate rightousness with the need to be "just" without the use of violence

it's strange how believers are willing to condone the acts of violence that Jesus or God commit as being acts of rightousness but when Man commit violence it's considered as being unholy or acts of evil ...well unless of course it's a Holy War and then I guess it's ok to commit violence

Eljay I support the rationale given for the two separate creation accounts in Genesis. This is research that HAS been conducted by biblical scholars and theologians.

if God made Man in his own image and made Adam and Eve at the same time is an indication that God is possibly both Man and Woman and therefore hermanphoditic in nature ..which explains why the angels were supposedly hermaphidites

if God made Adam first and then decided to made Eve is an indication that God had an after-thought which means his consciousness is under the influence of time ...anything restricted by time cannot be eternal

New Entries Into The Third Testament

Christianity A Form Of Vampirism
That the blood drinking rituals of Christianity is that of vampirism that started when St. Longinus speared Jesus and a drop of blood touched Longinus lip in which he claimed cause his eyesight to get better

Did Jesus Actually Die On The Cross?
since St. longinus became a follower of Jesus and also was the leader of the roman guards that guarded Jesus tomb Longinus could have removed Jesus from the tomb to get medical aid which is an indication that Jesus may not have died at the time indicated which may explain why he was not found later in the tomb

Christianity And Cannibalism
that the practice of the eating the flesh of Christ represents cannibalism or spiritual cannibalism ……the eating or the practice of eating or the pretending of eating human flesh is simply cannibalism ..

Love Is A Delusion
that when it comes to the concept that “Jesus loves you”..it is consider delusional to claim that someone that lived 2,000 years before your existence that you never met loves you or that you love them …

To Bless Is To Curse
That the religious are being arrogant by assuming that someone not of their faith wish to receive their blessings and not even comprehend or even care that others not of their faith may view their blessing the same as having a curse place on them

Religion An Acceptable Delusion
it’s a simple equation which can be used to detect the thin line between insanity delusion and reality which is …the more religious the person the more delusional the behavior ..this is so obvious that it can not be disputed

Im going to look that connection up. In the mean time I found this passage as it relates to human sacrifice in the bible. We also are all well aware of the story of Abraham and Isaac. It should have been Ishmael but whoever was documenting the story couldnt manage to keep the sons names straight. Ishmael was the first born even if he was a bastard child.

I found this:

Judges 11:29-39

Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah ... And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering. ... And the LORD delivered them into his hands. And he smote them ... with a very great slaughter. ... And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances. ... I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back. ... And ... her father ... did with her according to his vow which he had vowed.

When "the spirit of the Lord" comes upon Jephthah, he makes a deal with God: If God will help him kill the Ammonites, then he (Jephthah) will offer to God as a burnt offering whatever comes out of his house to greet him. God keeps his end of the deal by providing Jephthah with "a very great slaughter." But when Jephthah returns, his nameless daughter comes out to greet him (who'd he expect, his wife?). Well, a deal's a deal, so he delivers her to God as a burnt offering. He sacrifices his own daughter but since its only a girl, its permissable in the bible of course.

Jumping Jephthah!

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Hello Funches,

I hope you are doing well. I was wondering when you have sufficient information on the creation of a third testament will you publish it as a book to read. If so I think it would be a really great book for many to read and contemplate on.

Anyway please let me know so I can buy it one day just to read up on it.


and now back to the program of debating as I sit back and watch

"Krimsa" ...it could be argued as to what a "burnt offerring" is ...some will say that it's not an indication that someone is set on fire but that someone was offered as service to God

A burnt offering was a sacrifice of some kind. I think even most Christians won’t argue that. They can try all they want however.

I thought it was burnt so that the offering could go up to g-d in the smoke (and the priest had dinner ready)

print is obsolete ...maybe a movie

Pagans also engaged in human and animal sacrifice but it is difficult to fully know the extent of these practices because much of the accounts were later distorted and exaggerated by Christians in order to paint the pagans in a bad light. I know for certain they sacrificed animals but I really could not find information about Pagan human sacrifice that wasn’t contradictory. Both pagans and Christians engaged in ritual animal and human sacrifice.

oh wow even better. Sounds great.

if that was his only daughter and the last of his bloodline why would the guy promise something like that ...maybe she was an unruly child or something and he was going to stone her anyway....

Girls were not very important in this time period. His daughter in this case (as with many women in the bible) remains nameless. Only sons carried on family names. The only value that women held (aside from their virginity which was only important to men) is that they bore sons to men.

zeppelin to heaven the stairway, jacob the ladder do climb, steve miller hell before heaven, jesus the keys high and low, lennon each hitler christ, heaven and hell it go, petty free fallin paul and silos flow, mccartney mr bellow me angles heed, nico demus no flee, thin cows down from that tree, instant blink eyes see what you see............

Okay - now you've got me curious.

I would sincerely like to know what reputable scholar or Theologian gives support to there being TWO creation accounts in Genesis. Who are these people to whom you refer?

We already went through that and it was shown to you. Now you show me anything beyond your own brain that says that there are not two differing accounts of Creation.