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Topic: The Third Testament
tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Sat 08/09/08 06:03 PM
We need to ease the tension......so sayith the Lord A Rare Book A collector of rare books ran into an acquaintance who told him he had just thrown away an old Bible that he found in a dusty, old box. He happened to mention that Guten-somebody-or-other had printed it. "Not Gutenberg?" gasped the collector. "Yes, that was it!" "You idiot! You've thrown away one of the first books ever printed. A copy recently sold at auction for half a million dollars!" "Oh, I don't think this book would have been worth anything close to that much," replied the man. "It was scribbled all over in the margins by some guy named Martin Luther."

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 08/10/08 06:10 AM
Logical Conclusions for insertment into "The Third Testament" (1)...that God was not the only being that existed before creation that angels and other heavens and waters also existed (2)....That the term prophecy or "Inspired by God" is not actually from God but assumptions by the author of the works (3) ... The Universe was created in 6 solar days ..since time does not apply to God then a second is like a day is like 6 days is like thousnad years is why there is simply no way to dispute Genesis on this (4) .... the Nephilim all perished in the great flood NEW UPDATES TO BE INCLUDED (5) ..there is no free will only God's Divine Plan (6) ..there are no earthly demons ..since demons are fallen angels called Nephilim which all perished in the great flood (7) ..that the Holy Spirit is not an enity but a mindless power source that can be tapped into

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 08/29/08 10:22 AM
Logical Conclusions for insertment into "The Third Testament" (1)...that God was not the only being that existed before creation that angels and other heavens and waters also existed (2)....That the term prophecy or "Inspired by God" is not actually from God but assumptions by the author of the works (3) ... The Universe was created in 6 solar days ..since time does not apply to God then a second is like a day is like 6 days is like thousnad years is why there is simply no way to dispute Genesis on this (4) .... the Nephilim all perished in the great flood NEW UPDATES TO BE INCLUDED (5) ..there is no free will only God's Divine Plan (6) ..there are no earthly demons ..since demons are fallen angels called Nephilim which all perished in the great flood (7) ..that the Holy Spirit is not an enity but a mindless power source that can be tapped into (8) .. that man without technology has no more "Free Will" then the other animals (9) ..that Adam and Eve was no more intelligent then the other animals in the Garden and had no idea that by eating from the Tree of Knolwedge were wrong and only until they ate from the tree did they acquired the knowledge that it was wrong (10) ..to believe is to doubt ...to believe or to have a belief is in turn admitting to have doubt or why would one need faith

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/11/08 05:57 AM
(11) that Jesus said to ask the Father when the world will end.. this indicates that either Jesus didn't have access to this imformation but if Jesus was God why wouldn't he have access that Jesus asked the Father ..why have thou forsaken me ..either Jesus is talking to himself or forgot that he is God this either proves that Jesus is not God or that the Trinity represents God as being three seperate entities and not one mind

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/11/08 06:13 AM
(1)...that God was not the only being that existed before creation that angels and other heavens and waters also existed "Eljay" disprove this one ..so it will be removed from the third testament

Eljay Joined Tue 05/08/07 Posts: 2426	Thu 09/11/08 07:44 AM
(11) that Jesus said to ask the Father when the world will end.. this indicates that either Jesus didn't have access to this imformation but if Jesus was God why wouldn't he have access that Jesus asked the Father ..why have thou forsaken me ..either Jesus is talking to himself or forgot that he is God this either proves that Jesus is not God or that the Trinity represents God as being three seperate entities and not one mind Jesus did not say that he did not know "how" the world would end - just "when" it would end. He was a part of the creation, as "all things were created through him" - but He is not the one who is determining the "time" of things as they are related to us on earth. This is known only by God the father. I would say that your second option - the one about the Trinity, strikes closer to the truth than the one of Jesus not being God. The trinity is generally represented as the three distinct persons having one nature - not as being one entity. Representing the qualities of Truth, Love, light, etc etc. So - are you including this in the 3rd T, or throwing this up for discussion?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/11/08 11:42 AM
Jesus did not say that he did not know "how" the world would end - just "when" it would end. He was a part of the creation, as "all things were created through him" - but He is not the one who is determining the "time" of things as they are related to us on earth. This is known only by God the father. I would say that your second option - the one about the Trinity, strikes closer to the truth than the one of Jesus not being God. The trinity is generally represented as the three distinct persons having one nature - not as being one entity. Representing the qualities of Truth, Love, light, etc etc. according to the bible God is omnisicient ..so if Jesus didn't know "when" events would take place indicates that Jesus is not omnisicient and therefore not a God ..Jesus own words and actions constantly proves that he is clearly not God or a God So - are you including this in the 3rd T, or throwing this up for discussion? any and all the third testament files are up for discussion and with the right evidence or argument any or all can be ejected from the files of the third testament before I write the story make the video and place it on cable television but I just don't see how Jesus is not God therefore disproving the concept behind The Trinity can not be included into The Third Testament ..but "Eljay" if you can pull this one out of the fire then they should make you pope

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/07/09 09:40 AM
since Jesus claim that he "did not know" when the world would end is an indication that Jesus is not omniscient and therefore not a God disproving The Trinty ... since on one can contradict this statement therefore this statment will become written into The Third Testament

Eljay Joined Tue 05/08/07 Posts: 2426	Wed 01/07/09 10:54 AM
since Jesus claim that he "did not know" when the world would end is an indication that Jesus is not omniscient and therefore not a God disproving The Trinty ... since on one can contradict this statement therefore this statment will become written into The Third Testament Actually - this does more to demonstrate your lack of comprehending the attributes of the trinity than it does disproving it's existance. You're lack of understanding the trinity does not mean it does not exist. You need to remove it from the third Testament.

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Wed 01/07/09 11:08 AM
It's funny because on another thread of mine..I have taken the contradiction and shown why they are not...I think contradictions come from not reading the scripture in it's whole context and plain not understanding what you are reading....but hey have fun with this guys.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/07/09 11:08 AM
since Jesus claim that he "did not know" when the world would end is an indication that Jesus is not omniscient and therefore not a God disproving The Trinty ... since on one can contradict this statement therefore this statment will become written into The Third Testament Actually - this does more to demonstrate your lack of comprehending the attributes of the trinity than it does disproving it's existance. You're lack of understanding the trinity does not mean it does not exist. You need to remove it from the third Testament. "Eljay" Christians claim that Jesus is God ...Gods are supposedly omniscient which means that they are all-knowing ..Jesus claim that he "didn't know" certain things that only the father knew which clearly means he is not all knowing and therefore not a God so explain to me the part that you said that I don't understand and if it makes sense the statement will be removed from The Third Testament

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/07/09 11:16 AM
It's funny because on another thread of mine..I have taken the contradiction and shown why they are not...I think contradictions come from not reading the scripture in it's whole context and plain not understanding what you are reading....but hey have fun with this guys. "feralcatlady" ..if you have read the scripture and understand it then you should be able to explain the scripture to others in a brief synopsis in a way that is understandable ... if not... only means that you may not have understood what you yourself have read

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Wed 01/07/09 11:38 AM
It's funny because on another thread of mine..I have taken the contradiction and shown why they are not...I think contradictions come from not reading the scripture in it's whole context and plain not understanding what you are reading....but hey have fun with this guys. "feralcatlady" ..if you have read the scripture and understand it then you should be able to explain the scripture to others in a brief synopsis in a way that is understandable ... if not... only means that you may not have understood what you yourself have read I believe that is exactly how I have always done it funch...

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/07/09 12:06 PM
It's funny because on another thread of mine..I have taken the contradiction and shown why they are not...I think contradictions come from not reading the scripture in it's whole context and plain not understanding what you are reading....but hey have fun with this guys. "feralcatlady" ..if you have read the scripture and understand it then you should be able to explain the scripture to others in a brief synopsis in a way that is understandable ... if not... only means that you may not have understood what you yourself have read I believe that is exactly how I have always done it funch... remember you had a "google cut and paste addiction"..once you nearly pasted the entire bible into a thread

Eljay Joined Tue 05/08/07 Posts: 2426	Wed 01/07/09 12:09 PM Edited by Eljay on Wed 01/07/09 12:10 PM
since Jesus claim that he "did not know" when the world would end is an indication that Jesus is not omniscient and therefore not a God disproving The Trinty ... since on one can contradict this statement therefore this statment will become written into The Third Testament Actually - this does more to demonstrate your lack of comprehending the attributes of the trinity than it does disproving it's existance. You're lack of understanding the trinity does not mean it does not exist. You need to remove it from the third Testament. "Eljay" Christians claim that Jesus is God ...Gods are supposedly omniscient which means that they are all-knowing ..Jesus claim that he "didn't know" certain things that only the father knew which clearly means he is not all knowing and therefore not a God so explain to me the part that you said that I don't understand and if it makes sense the statement will be removed from The Third Testament God the father is omniscient. Not the entire trinity. I'm not getting the sense that you understand the trinity - that is my point. If I knew what you were defining the trinity and it's attributes to be - then I could better respond. I will say - that what I understand you to believe the trinity is belongs in the Third Testament, because that trinity does not exist. However if you are presuming to include the trinity of scripture in the third testament - you have no basis for it.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/07/09 03:11 PM
God the father is omniscient. Not the entire trinity. I'm not getting the sense that you understand the trinity - that is my point. If I knew what you were defining the trinity and it's attributes to be - then I could better respond. I will say - that what I understand you to believe the trinity is belongs in the Third Testament, because that trinity does not exist. However if you are presuming to include the trinity of scripture in the third testament - you have no basis for it. "Eljay" .The Trinty Concept is not hard to understand especially when believers claim that Jesus is God ..as you said God the father is omniscient and therefore is a God ...but you have yet to explain how someone that is not omniscient or lack in knowledge like Jesus can be a God or God .. isn't it the bible itself that disproves The Trinity by displaying how Jesus was neither omniscient or omnipotent and that is the basis for consideration into The Third Testament

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Wed 01/07/09 05:14 PM
once again for lil boys playing instead of paying attention...I don't google and paste anything that is not my work or from my studies....try again It's funny because on another thread of mine..I have taken the contradiction and shown why they are not...I think contradictions come from not reading the scripture in it's whole context and plain not understanding what you are reading....but hey have fun with this guys. "feralcatlady" ..if you have read the scripture and understand it then you should be able to explain the scripture to others in a brief synopsis in a way that is understandable ... if not... only means that you may not have understood what you yourself have read I believe that is exactly how I have always done it funch... remember you had a "google cut and paste addiction"..once you nearly pasted the entire bible into a thread

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Wed 01/07/09 06:04 PM
Ive got a few biblical contradictions running right now on another thread but since this one was originally intended to actually address that topic. I will add here another. This one is brand new. Has there ever been a righteous person? NO Job 15:14 What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous? YES Genesis 7:1 For thee [Noah] have I seen righteous before me.

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Wed 01/07/09 06:09 PM
And tell us Krisma with the other contradiction not so much anymore huh.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Wed 01/07/09 06:09 PM
And tell us Krisma with the other contradiction not so much anymore huh. Huh? What does that mean?