i ll always talk about my xs in my1st day just ask fran

Well....

I had the date Friday night. I am sorry I did not post Saturday. The date went very well, we laughed and talked until almost three in the morning. Unfortunately, it seems as though there is most likely a friend vibe more than anything. We'll see.

On the positive side, I am very pleased to know I can have a good date!

Happy Monday, all!

Good job Lilith! We knew you had it in you .. Did you see my comment to you, one page back .. re: tv.

Ah yes.....I read several in that vein. I do believe there are people who don't watch television or only watch rarely.

What I don't like is the "line", the one where you know in your heart of hearts it is just a way to sound cool or that they are somehow better than me because I watch CSI and must be stupid as a result.

As long as you get news and information it makes no matter how you get it.

One date and slapped into the friend zone. Wow, your a tough woman to date Lilith.

You ladies know that us men are going to use lines don't you? We have too. You see, we've all been told by our friends, family, etc., that lines work. And then through personal experience, we might try a few we've heard or maybe make a forray into the unknown and make up a line. This of course isn't the fault of men. This line making

You see in truth, it's the fault of women. There are those amongst the female of the species that fall for these lines (or at least give the appearance of falling for them). I don't know maybe it's a moment of weakness, or possibly that you see some potential in one of us poor slobs, it doesn't really matter. The true mistake was in letting that first line work, whoever that was, could've been Eve. Once that one worked, it was passed on, and we are probably still using it today. I bet Adam went, "so, you from around here?" Eve, seeing no other options responded, and it was passed down ever since.

Good Morning to you ladies!!!

RO~

Nooooooo...... I was the one slapped into the friend zone. I thought he was incredibly attractive. Unforunately, I know he had a good time, but no idea if he is romantically interested.

good morning - Lil happy to hear you had a good time.

Good morning Fran!

It's a line from a cheesy movie, but I think it's true.

"You know what a woman has to do to attract a man? Show up. That's it. We're easy."

If you liked the guy, don't wait, jump!! You can never scare a guy off by being interested. Don't forget, half the time we men are just clueless. Do you know how many times I've had a friend ask me "why didn't you make a move on that one chick, she was flirting with you?" Only to respond "who was flirting with me? I don't remember anyone flirting with me. Why didn't you say something when we were still there?!?!?"

Besides, men don't have a "friend zone," if you know a guy that you think is "just a friend," unless he's married, he still wants you. Probably does even if he's married, but I have no perspective on which to base this claim. But I somehow seriously doubt you got put in the friend zone. Trust me, he's interested, I would be.

Aw, RO, thanks. He shook my hand at the end of the date and then asked for a hug. [which I gladly provided, almost tossing my purse on the ground] He also asked me to call when I got home so he'd know I was safe. We had talked about going on a bike ride Sunday (He has an incredibly gorgeous Harley), but he called Sunday am to say he had to work.

The call was ended with him saying to give him a call anytime. There was no mention of another date or any sort of flirtation on his end. So I just don't know.

Lilith, I am glad you had a nice time.

RO, Question, If guys are never scared off by a woman being interested, why do they say that they are?

Yes you do, I've already told you. Call him up, all you have to say is "when am I getting that bike ride." You're in like Flint after that. It seems to me he was interested, that's an outside observation based upon the info at hand, so take that for what it's worth.

On the converse side, don't let me peer pressure you.

RO~

I am just going to leave it casual... I'll call him in a few days and see what happens. I am okay with it either way, I suppose, as there is no purpose in me getting all wrapped up in hoping for a relative stranger to ask me out.

Don't get me wrong, I'd grab a razor and shave my legs if he wanted to grab some ice cream... but I won't cry if he doesn't. He was a hottie!

Like I said, I'm just so excited that it really isn't me.

Come again? I think I understand the question, but I'm not 100% certain on what your asking.

Probably the degree of intensity behind it. If your scaring guys off, tone it back about 15% you'll be fine. With guys, you can chase after them, but you have to appear as if being chased. It's like playing "you can't catch me," but stopping every 20 feet to let the guy catch up.

If I'm completely off on this, ask me specific questions, and I'll answer to the best of my ability.

I have just read in a lot of the forums that guys are scared off by women that show intrest or are forward. I just was wondering why you said that guys are never scared off by a woman being interested.

Oooops. I'm forward and I express interest. Shocker, I know!

For me, I prefer to intially do the pursuing in that I definitely let the guy know if I'm into them.

For example, the guy I met Friday.... He sent me an e-mail Wednesday, and it was very nice. I replied back that it was good to hear from him and my only disappointment was that it did not end with "What are you doing Friday night?". Needeless to say, we met Friday night.

But I am not at all a fequent caller stalker type lady.

I am not a call 50 times a day person either. I have on occasion asked, so when are you going to take me for a ride on your bike, or where would you like to meet for that cup of coffee. But mostly I just try to say hi and hope you are having a great day, once every couple of days. After about a week or so if they dont respond, its an, Ehhh, their loss. Though I have to admit that I am an occasional Peeper Perv. LOL Due to the fact they look nice in their photos and live way to far from me. A gal can dream.

I totally agree. I hope you did not think I in any meant you were a stalker or did not know hoe to appropriately express interest without being too forward!

Any man who thinks he can't be trained should listen to Foxworthy for a minute, and LEARN! Even I'm not foolish enough to not be retrained to at least not keep the toilet seat in the upright and back position, at least from 8/7 to 8/12.

Was this our "mutual" friend???