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Topic: CLOSURE
franshade's photo
Thu 07/17/08 01:00 PM

Well,,of course, information gathering is important in ALL aspects of life,,,

If I lose a job, i want to know why

If the information is relevant,,I will correct my "core"

Oh,,you wanted me to show up on time every day?laugh laugh laugh

but if the "reason" was because their long lost neice NEEDED the job,,

Then you can kiss my core,,laugh laugh

Point is,,,closure is within MYSELF, opinion is someone elses:wink:




Thanks Peekinin - what gall of that employer to demand employees be on time and daily on top of everything else rofl rofl
flowerforyou

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Thu 07/17/08 01:14 PM


What an interesting thread.
I have struggled with "closure" and in some respects I still am. Part of it is a hanging on to dead past,unwilling to let it go. Why?? Trying to make myself not the "bad guy"?
I had a painful situation years ago, involing a child. There was a period of bitterness and resentment that lasting for about 2-3 yrs.
When I finally realised she "didn't do this TO ME"
it was just what she did, I was able to let go of all of it.



thanks MichiganMan3. So your realization helped with the closure. Thanks flowerforyou


But it wasn't anything from out side of me, not a reason, answer or explanation from someone else. It was an internal realisation(sp)
An "Ah-Ha" moment!!!!

franshade's photo
Thu 07/17/08 01:19 PM



What an interesting thread.
I have struggled with "closure" and in some respects I still am. Part of it is a hanging on to dead past,unwilling to let it go. Why?? Trying to make myself not the "bad guy"?
I had a painful situation years ago, involing a child. There was a period of bitterness and resentment that lasting for about 2-3 yrs.
When I finally realised she "didn't do this TO ME"
it was just what she did, I was able to let go of all of it.



thanks MichiganMan3. So your realization helped with the closure. Thanks flowerforyou


But it wasn't anything from out side of me, not a reason, answer or explanation from someone else. It was an internal realisation(sp)
An "Ah-Ha" moment!!!!



I gotcha ... funny thing is that I have more in common with the males regarding this issue than with the ladies - thanks for sharing flowerforyou

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Thu 07/17/08 01:20 PM
I do believe I am in the middle of another one too.

AHHHHH-HAAAAAAAAA.

franshade's photo
Thu 07/17/08 01:25 PM

We never put anything completely behind us as you can't erase your memories, and they will jump up and bite you when you least expect them too. You can come to grips with it, you can move on, but you can never make it go completely away. And even when you are not aware of it your memories can shape your actions of today, the way you see people and situations. Closure is a good tool it gives you a place to start from when you regroup after a relationship has gone bust. It forces you to acknowledge that the relationship is indeed over, whether you want it to be or not. Some people can't let things go without closure, and some people never find closure no matter how many times they are told. It is all in your perspective....


there are certain things I put behind me, especially if driving at a high speed in reverse rofl just kidding (trying to keep it light)

I dont hold onto negative thoughts or vibes, granted it works for me, may not work for another soul. I search and seek out positive in all that happens to me, so to me closure is just that the acceptance that things are over, finished, kaput, :smile:and it comes from within me.

franshade's photo
Thu 07/17/08 01:34 PM

I do believe I am in the middle of another one too.

AHHHHH-HAAAAAAAAA.



rut rohhhhhhhhhhh shocked

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Thu 07/17/08 02:22 PM


I do believe I am in the middle of another one too.

AHHHHH-HAAAAAAAAA.



rut rohhhhhhhhhhh shocked


No, not like thatlaugh . Gaining insight into current situation.

franshade's photo
Thu 07/17/08 05:21 PM



I do believe I am in the middle of another one too.

AHHHHH-HAAAAAAAAA.



rut rohhhhhhhhhhh shocked


No, not like thatlaugh . Gaining insight into current situation.

Glad to hear smile2

Lord_Psycho's photo
Thu 07/17/08 05:24 PM
4get about them they BLOW n I RULE!

Lord_Psycho's photo
Thu 07/17/08 05:24 PM
4get about them they BLOW n I RULE!

franshade's photo
Thu 07/17/08 05:53 PM

4get about them they BLOW n I RULE!

if this works for you, go for it smile2

lilith401's photo
Fri 07/18/08 08:07 AM
Fran, I do see where you are coming from. Completely. I guess for me, I need that information to close things on my end. Sometimes it is quick, it was quick with my most recent ex. I knew that had nothing to do with me and was in fact only real on my end. So there was nothing really to "close", just my own pride to swallow. Talking to his ex really helped me, and after a couple of weeks it was done. Other times it can take longer, based on what went on and how it all happened.


I agree it is within ourselves, and there can be a component of wanting it to drag on in a way (not deliberalitely I don't think).... but ultimately the goal for all of us is to become happier, healthier, and move forward. We just all do it differently. That is the point, right?

And TGIF!!!!!

Peekinin's photo
Fri 07/18/08 08:11 AM
(((((Lilith))))))flowerforyou

Information gathering can be a biatchgrumble grumble

but isn't that what we do when we go through the "levels"?

I will agree though, the "process" which can bring about closure can be swift or drawn out. Each situation bringing its own "brand".

Personally, I would never ask, "what did I do wrong". That in itself is asking someone else to validate. IMHO

And TGIF to you too:wink: :banana: flowers

franshade's photo
Fri 07/18/08 08:17 AM
definitely Lilith.

The reason I posted this was because responses were confusing me, people were demanding, expecting answers from their partners (didnt matter who broke up with whom). So I asked.

The information will always be available to both parties as both lived the experience, both will have different views (neither one being wrong). So I understand.

TGIF 2 ya 2 :banana:

franshade's photo
Fri 07/18/08 08:22 AM

(((((Lilith))))))flowerforyou

Information gathering can be a biatchgrumble grumble

but isn't that what we do when we go through the "levels"?

I will agree though, the "process" which can bring about closure can be swift or drawn out. Each situation bringing its own "brand".

Personally, I would never ask, "what did I do wrong". That in itself is asking someone else to validate. IMHO

And TGIF to you too:wink: :banana: flowers


I would never also assume to think it was something "I" did, because in relationships it is normally an "us" or a "we" so I just split things right down the middle and make no excuses nor do I accept them - this is just me, not a standard, but this works for me.

good luck to all those that have found closure and to those still seeking closure.

flowerforyou

lilith401's photo
Fri 07/18/08 09:43 AM
Edited by lilith401 on Fri 07/18/08 09:43 AM
So onto a different, yet related topic of closure....

Let's talk about LOST, or serial soap operas.
How can people watch those.... there is no ending? !!! No closure.

I once had a friend tell me to watch "Friends With Money", and each story had no ending at
all, it was like the film just stopped in the middle. Of course, I went to work the next day and told her I watched it,
while she laughed uproariously for ten minutes, saying it was just a joke for me to see it, that she knew I'd despise it...

That is a closure issue for me too.
So I don't watch those sorts of shows.

franshade's photo
Fri 07/18/08 09:52 AM

So onto a different, yet related topic of closure....

Let's talk about LOST, or serial soap operas.
How can people watch those.... there is no ending? !!! No closure.

I once had a friend tell me to watch "Friends With Money", and each story had no ending at
all, it was like the film just stopped in the middle. Of course, I went to work the next day and told her I watched it,
while she laughed uproariously for ten minutes, saying it was just a joke for me to see it, that she knew I'd despise it...

That is a closure issue for me too.
So I don't watch those sorts of shows.


rofl I happen to enjoy "The Closer" with Kyra Sedgwick rofl ironic huh?? rofl

But she does close out every case flowerforyou

lilith401's photo
Fri 07/18/08 09:54 AM
I, of course, ADORE that show. Each episode ends so neatly, huh? laugh

s1owhand's photo
Fri 07/18/08 09:59 AM

Can someone politely explain why people have the need for explanations, reasons, etc., when a relationship dies?

While in a relationship if your significant other, your partner, your lover, bf/gf, husband/wife wakes up and decides he/she has had enough and wants out. What good would an explanation, reason, excuse be? What purpose will it fulfill save for validation?


ummmm....No Stealth Mode?! laugh

Mary Hartman Mary Hartman

franshade's photo
Fri 07/18/08 10:02 AM


Can someone politely explain why people have the need for explanations, reasons, etc., when a relationship dies?

While in a relationship if your significant other, your partner, your lover, bf/gf, husband/wife wakes up and decides he/she has had enough and wants out. What good would an explanation, reason, excuse be? What purpose will it fulfill save for validation?


ummmm....No Stealth Mode?! laugh

Mary Hartman Mary Hartman


lmaooooooo rofl

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