Why does religion have anything to do with the presidential election? As far as I'm concerned, it's a complete non-entity. Sacrificing animals, talking to yourself, and hoping really really hard is not going to effect the outcome of anything. Vote, be heard, and we'll see what happens.

Thats the smartest thing someone has said in these political threads in a long time................kudos

That's funny. Please give us the verse. There is no mention of Muslims in the Book of Revelations.

And Obama isn't Muslim, so you don't have to worry about him.

Hasn't every presidential candidate in our history spouted promises of hope and world peace?

keep referring to women as wenches....youll get nowhere!!!!

That's funny. Please give us the verse. There is no mention of Muslims in the Book of Revelations.

And Obama isn't Muslim, so you don't have to worry about him.

Hasn't every presidential candidate in our history spouted promises of hope and world peace?

Sorry WINX, that is the right question to ask, but the answer won't come anytime soon, because the words are nowhere to be found in the book of revelations.

Rather, it is a paragraph right out of a paperbook aimed at a small but resisting 'niche' group in a number of backwards pockets of the nation. The book is called:

'... HOW TO BE A SUBTLE RACIST IN 2008 BY JUDICIOUSLY DISTORTING THE BIBLE, QUOTING EINSTEIN OUT OF TURN, AND DROPPING 'QUANTUM PHYSICS' IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EMPTY THOUGHT, WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE FAILS!!!'

The book hasn't sold very well. The publisher concluded, after a survey of his niche market, that the rednecks couldn't understand the title, since it had more than 3 words, and didn't have pictures on the cover.

If there is such a thing as the anti-christ, he is spreading his unintelligent, despicable, and primitive hatred of others through such servile people as the host of this post.

According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is:





The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA??

People believing in this **** helps explain how Dubya ever got elected.

I read that the anti-Christ will be someone on this site spreading falicies and fear!

May I??
Why not, but it's kinda long!

Oh what they heck,

Obama is the Antichrist? Puh-leeze!
By Amy Hollyfield
Published on Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008 at 07:40 p.m.



SUMMARY: The latest chain e-mail attack on Obama distorts the words in the Bible to suggest he is the Antichrist.

The chain e-mail attacks on Sen. Barack Obama during this presidential race have been rampant and ruthless. He refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance ( False.) He was sworn into the Senate on a Koran, not the Bible ( Pants on Fire wrong.) His middle name is Mohammed and he’s a “covert” Muslim ( Pants on Fire wrong.)

But those allegations are dwarfed by a new chain e-mail that distorts the words of the Bible to suggest Obama is the Antichrist.

The e-mail reads: “According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is: The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything is it OBAMA??”

Like many other e-mails spreading falsehoods about the presidential candidates to thousands or even millions of people, this e-mail encourages its readers to pass it on: “I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! If you think I am crazy..Im sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the “unknown” candidate.”

We feel silly even writing about this because many people consider it ridiculous on its face. But the e-mail was sent to us by many PolitiFact readers who wanted us to sort it out. And judging by 635,000 hits on a Google search for “Obama + Antichrist,” the suggestion certainly has spread. Among the thousands of postings is one blog — “Barack Obama the Antichrist?” — devoted to exploring signs that Obama may be the Antichrist.

And it's because of chain e-mails like this one that misunderstandings begin.

To be clear: Nothing about this detailed allegation is true.

Let’s begin with the Book of Revelation (note the singular, which is accurate), the final book in the Bible’s New Testament, which is 22 chapters long. Its sweeping apocalyptic language is laced with metaphors and symbols that challenge modern readers, but nowhere does it offer the kind of cookbook definition of the Antichrist proposed in this e-mail.

To reach our findings, we read the Book of Revelation and interviewed two religious scholars. Here's what we found:

• The word “anti-christ” does not appear in the Book of Revelation.

“The word Antichrist is not used in the Book of Revelation so this is important to point out,” said Dr. James D. Tabor, professor and chair of the religious studies department at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. “Everybody thinks the word is used.”

That’s a pretty big hole in this e-mail from the get-go. We didn’t find the word in reading the text and our second scholar confirms this critical point.

“First and foremost, the word Antichrist and a figure called the Antichrist never occurs in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament,” said Dr. L. Michael White, professor of classics and religious studies at the University of Texas and director of the Institute for the Study of Antiquity and Christian Origins.

Now, some people interpret characters in the Book of Revelation to be the Antichrist even though the text doesn’t use this word. Specifically, in Chapter 13 there is a beast “having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy” that some consider to be an allusion to the Antichrist.

“It’s only in Chapter 13 and you could almost miss it,” Tabor said.

But among biblical scholars and historians, there is strong consensus that none of the strange, evil-sounding characters in the Book of Revelation actually represents the Antichrist.

“It wasn’t there in the Bible,” White said. “It emerges in the Middle Ages. It’s something historians deal with.”

Now the word Antichrist does appear a few times in other books of the Bible, specifically in First John and Second John. The description in First John, Chapter 4, verse 3 says: “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

• There’s no mention of a man of a certain age.

The Book of Revelation talks of God, Jesus Christ, John, spirits, Jezebel, a beast like a calf, a beast like a flying eagle, elders, a great red dragon and many more animals and people. But nowhere does it describe “a man, in his 40s,” as the e-mail alleges.

“As you notice, there’s nothing about being age 40,” Tabor said. “This is completely wrong. The Book of Revelation doesn’t say that. It says it’s a male, so I guess they got that right. It says ‘he,’ ‘he,’ ‘he.’ ”

• There’s no mention of the word “Muslim.”

Considering the Bible was completed by the early second century, and the Islam religion wasn’t founded until the early 600s, it’s not surprising that the world Muslim (the name for Islam followers) does not appear in the Book of Revelation.

So it’s this part of the e-mail, where it says the Antichrist will be a man “of Muslim descent,” that our religious scholars find particularly ridiculous.

By definition, the Antichrist is “the polar opposite and ultimate enemy of Christ,” according to the Encyclopedia Britannica. And because Muslims believe “there is no god but God,” they would have great difficulty with the idea of elevating a person to a divine status, White said.

“A Muslim would be a monotheist and the last thing a Muslim would do is have anyone worship anyone other than God,” Tabor said.

Not to mention the fact that Obama is not a Muslim.

White points to the specific descriptions of the Antichrist as evidence that the e-mail is drawing from a number of sources to create the image it wants to portray.

“There is no part of that anywhere in the Bible, not in those forms,” said White, who was a co-writer and historical consultant for the 1999 PBS documentary, Apocalypse! Time, History, and Revolution. “That’s all a jigsaw puzzle of bits and pieces all filtered through the kind of end-of-world scenarios we get in the theology that is the underpinning of the Left Behind novels.”

White says this patchwork interpretation of the Bible is common in some groups trying to justify certain beliefs.

“Of course, they never bothered to read the Scriptures carefully ... so it’s kind of a system of interpretation. That if you start with that presupposition, it’s all there you can just find it,” White said.

“That description (in the chain e-mail) never occurs anywhere in one place nor are the component parts really about the same situation. It’s a cherry-picking through Scripture to get it all to fit together.”

But fit together it doesn’t. The claim in this e-mail is egregiously inaccurate, so we rule it Pants on Fire wrong.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/apr/02/barack-obama-not-antichrist/

According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is:





The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA??

According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is: The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s

of MUSLIM descent

who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything

Is it OBAMA??

How about there was no such thing as a Muslim when the book of Revelations was actualy written. Kind of makes you wonder who exactly changed the wording and to what goal. YOu think maybe it happend during the crusades when the catholic church was trying to protect "Christiandom"?

History people, its written down for a reason.

Copies of the books of the Bible all dated as older than the Catholic Church exist. The Catholic Church didn't change the meaning of the scriptures, if they had, it would be easily verifiable.

But maybe you could use a history lesson, because by the time of the crusades, 3/4 of the Christian world (Christendom) had been converted to Islam by sword and fire. Those who refused to convert were given reduced status (dhimmitude) to being on the level of livestock. Their lands and possessions were given to Muslims. It's only because of the Crusades that Europe wasn't fully taken by the Muslims. Did you know that Saudi Arabia is the only Muslim country which was peacefully converted? The Palestinian people (including most of the Middle East) were Christians before Islam was spread violently through the Middle East. To see some sort of ulterior motive in the Crusades requires that you ignore about 500 years of history.

The Christian crusades were a barbaric and cruel treatment of humans .They killed scores of innocent people .It is a fact Christianity spread violence and hatred for centuries .

The Christian crusades were a barbaric and cruel treatment of humans .They killed scores of innocent people .It is a fact Christianity spread violence and hatred for centuries .