I think this is a bit biased on the christian side of the history but okay?

You assume too much. Did I say let them run-a-muck, no. Did I ever say not to charge those who are guilty of crimes against us, no. Did I say that we should not protect ourselves, NO.

I will say it again, only ignorant unintelligent people utilize or back capturing, detaining (indefinitely) and torturing people in the name of peace. If they did something wrong charge them and let the courts do their job. We do not have to act like animals to get what you mentioned done.

Wow... Can't believe some of this.

Geneva conventions allow a wide margin when dealing with a soldier from a combatant nation.

A person that is arrested for terrorist activties is a Combatant of a Nation we are at War with.

Not a citizen of a particular RECOGNIZED nation, but a combatant of a multinational organization that for some reason holds its self above national boundries.

Holding them as though they were a prisoner of war makes perfect sense to me.

That means they get visits from the Red Cross or equivalent to insure they are not being tortured and the like. It does not mean they get the same consideration as a civilian charged with a crime in a civilian court.

If they actually are terrorists(before some one of you hotheads jump me I realize some of them probably are not) then they are COMBATANTS of a multinational organization that we are at war with.

And fanta it is nice to see that you are still standing on your box.

Good thinking gentleman .
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The human race should be too evolved to participate in these neandrathal tactics anyway. We, as Americans, should really really be above this form of dehumanization. Our advancements here should make us above this type of activity.

That is absolute hogwash.

May I remind you that I served 4 years in the U.S. Navy, received an Honorable Discharge and am a member of the American Legion.

I don't stand in any line that discredits the military, in fact, I support our military.

Just because I'm not brainwashed by the Bush Jr. NeoCons and garbage talk show hosts on Fox and conservative radio, doesn't mean I don't support the military.

You don't even know me, so stop lying.

Do these pre-date the books and letters that Emporer Constantine had commisioned to make the first bible then had all of the scribes killed and the library of Alexandria burned down so that Rome would have control of this Religion?

I've asked certain Catholic officials why writings such as the Gospel of Thomas are'nt considered reading on their lists and the only replys that I received was that too much would be lost in the translation. I think maybe his words we're too simple for them. There's no fun if it is'nt criptic I guess.

On the contrary. The Geneva Convention applies to persons that have taken up arms (i.e. combatant) and that is exactally what most of those people are.

War is war no matter what the person wears for a uniform.

The Official US Interpretation of the Geneva Convention as it pertains to Detention and Interrogation:

Section 1. General Determinations. (a) The United States is engaged in an armed conflict with al Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces. Members of al Qaeda were responsible for the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, and for many other terrorist attacks, including against the United States, its personnel, and its allies throughout the world. These forces continue to fight the United States and its allies in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere, and they continue to plan additional acts of terror throughout the world. On February 7, 2002, I determined for the United States that members of al Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces are unlawful enemy combatants who are not entitled to the protections that the Third Geneva Convention provides to prisoners of war. I hereby reaffirm that determination.

(b) The Military Commissions Act defines certain prohibitions of Common Article 3 for United States law, and it reaffirms and reinforces the authority of the President to interpret the meaning and application of the Geneva Conventions.

Sec. 2. Definitions. As used in this order:

(a) "Common Article 3" means Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions.

(b) "Geneva Conventions" means:

(i) the Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field, done at Geneva August 12, 1949 (6 UST 3114);

(ii) the Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of Wounded, Sick and Shipwrecked Members of Armed Forces at Sea, done at Geneva August 12, 1949 (6 UST 3217);

(iii) the Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, done at Geneva August 12, 1949 (6 UST 3316); and

(iv) the Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, done at Geneva August 12, 1949 (6 UST 3516).

(c) "Cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment" means the cruel, unusual, and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

Sec. 3. Compliance of a Central Intelligence Agency Detention and Interrogation Program with Common Article 3. (a) Pursuant to the authority of the President under the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including the Military Commissions Act of 2006, this order interprets the meaning and application of the text of Common Article 3 with respect to certain detentions and interrogations, and shall be treated as authoritative for all purposes as a matter of United States law, including satisfaction of the international obligations of the United States. I hereby determine that Common Article 3 shall apply to a program of detention and interrogation operated by the Central Intelligence Agency as set forth in this section. The requirements set forth in this section shall be applied with respect to detainees in such program without adverse distinction as to their race, color, religion or faith, sex, birth, or wealth.

(b) I hereby determine that a program of detention and interrogation approved by the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency fully complies with the obligations of the United States under Common Article 3, provided that:

(i) the conditions of confinement and interrogation practices of the program do not include:

(A) torture, as defined in section 2340 of title 18, United States Code;

(B) any of the acts prohibited by section 2441(d) of title 18, United States Code, including murder, torture, cruel or inhuman treatment, mutilation or maiming, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, rape, sexual assault or abuse, taking of hostages, or performing of biological experiments;

(C) other acts of violence serious enough to be considered comparable to murder, torture, mutilation, and cruel or inhuman treatment, as defined in section 2441(d) of title 18, United States Code;

(D) any other acts of cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment prohibited by the Military Commissions Act (subsection 6(c) of Public Law 109 366) and the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 (section 1003 of Public Law 109 148 and section 1403 of Public Law 109 163);

(E) willful and outrageous acts of personal abuse done for the purpose of humiliating or degrading the individual in a manner so serious that any reasonable person, considering the circumstances, would deem the acts to be beyond the bounds of human decency, such as sexual or sexually indecent acts undertaken for the purpose of humiliation, forcing the individual to perform sexual acts or to pose sexually, threatening the individual with sexual mutilation, or using the individual as a human shield; or

(F) acts intended to denigrate the religion, religious practices, or religious objects of the individual;

(ii) the conditions of confinement and interrogation practices are to be used with an alien detainee who is determined by the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency:

(A) to be a member or part of or supporting al Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated organizations; and

(B) likely to be in possession of information that:

(1) could assist in detecting, mitigating, or preventing terrorist attacks, such as attacks within the United States or against its Armed Forces or other personnel, citizens, or facilities, or against allies or other countries cooperating in the war on terror with the United States, or their armed forces or other personnel, citizens, or facilities; or

(2) could assist in locating the senior leadership of al Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces;

(iii) the interrogation practices are determined by the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, based upon professional advice, to be safe for use with each detainee with whom they are used; and

(iv) detainees in the program receive the basic necessities of life, including adequate food and water, shelter from the elements, necessary clothing, protection from extremes of heat and cold, and essential medical care.

(c) The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency shall issue written policies to govern the program, including guidelines for Central Intelligence Agency personnel that implement paragraphs (i)(C), (E), and (F) of subsection 3(b) of this order, and including requirements to ensure:

(i) safe and professional operation of the program;

(ii) the development of an approved plan of interrogation tailored for each detainee in the program to be interrogated, consistent with subsection 3(b)(iv) of this order;

(iii) appropriate training for interrogators and all personnel operating the program;

(iv) effective monitoring of the program, including with respect to medical matters, to ensure the safety of those in the program; and

(v) compliance with applicable law and this order.

Sec. 4. Assignment of Function. With respect to the program addressed in this order, the function of the President under section 6(c)(3) of the Military Commissions Act of 2006 is assigned to the Director of National Intelligence.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Subject to subsection (b) of this section, this order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity, against the United States, its departments, agencies, or other entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

(b) Nothing in this order shall be construed to prevent or limit reliance upon this order in a civil, criminal, or administrative proceeding, or otherwise, by the Central Intelligence Agency or by any individual acting on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency in connection with the program addressed in this order.

I am the Anti-Christ bow to me my Minions! hahahahahahahaha

I am the Anti-Christ bow to me my Minions! hahahahahahahaha

Hail Psycho ..Hail Psycho....

The Book Of Revelations does say where he is from.. Some scholars

"SHOULD" is the word, alright....

Huh

According to the History of the Jews. That after fleeing Jerusalem in 70ad they were welcomed by the Arab people and lived with them peacefully untill mid 600's. When Mohamad came on the scene.

At that time he was said to of went off to heaven from the temple of the Rock in Jerusalem.

This starting the beginning of the fight for Jerusalem.. The Jews mainly were out of it and Rome went to war with the muslims..


This is when the Knights Templar was born. To fight for control of the city..

The Middle Ages Rome had control of Jerusalem that I know of.

Thier were fanctions throughout Europe who opposed the Pope and thier teachings.

This was in the 11 and 1200's

Millions of peaceful people were put to death at the stake if they would not conform.

They would take the Heretics and tie or somehow fasten them on a pole with wood and straw beneath them.

The good church people would let them think about the kind of death they would have after the sunday service was over as they did this before sunday school.

After church was done they would be told they needed to denounce thier Heritic ways and conform or be burn't at the stake.. No Muslims involved at all..


They set the straw on fire to all that were to die as the congregragation formed a circle around them singing Hymns as the Heritics screamed in Pain.

Quite Politically correct I might add..


In Englan during this time the churches were built with steps going up to them as you still see them today.

The King or Queen i am not sure of England decided it would be a good warning to put stakes at the bottom of the steps on each side.

They did this to warn the Heritics of thier fate.

What was this?

They would take thier skulls after they had burned at the stake and mount it on stakes that led upto the steps leading into the church.

Very good way to make you think.. I might add..

How about you?

Some of these stakes can still be seen at some of the churches in England to this day.


To blame the Middle ages on the Muslims just is not true. Thier fighting went on in and around Jerusalem as it still is to this day.


Well I am off to get baptized I want to keep my Head.

Im the ANTI-CHRIST!!! Bow down to me my MINIONS!!!!

.is not George w bush the antichrist.

He is anti humanity for sure .

Obama rearranged spells a mob, a? also a a-bom! and moaba, and o a bam! noway: