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 Its called the order of the snake. Neocons, Zionism, World bankers, Bilderburg group, and yes, aliens have infiltrated pentagon and the United Nations.  
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The media work for the neo cons which is a devastating outcome as they turn humans to a mere robots believing all kinds of excuses . Hi, Sam, Yes, some neocons have a massive hold on the media, e.g. Rupert Murdoch, who most recently purchased the Wall Street Journal. He also owns, IIRC, the Jerusalem Post and New York Post among many others. But the most worrisome thing is not that, in my opinion. It is that non-neocon media allowed themselves to be flimflammed by the neocons when it came to assessing the 'threat' of Saddam Hussein to the US, and to assessing the 'threat of Iran now to the US. The non-neocon journalists were astonishingly lax in investigating the claims of the White House, the Pentagon and the CIA, thus allowing the likes of Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith to present the neocon disinformation as if it were fact. Indeed, some journalists like Judith Miller of the New York Times became known among neocons as people who were willing and eager to print whatever was given them, unchallenged. The Washington Post and New York Times both apologized later to their readers for this failure of journalism, but, in my opinion, they are making the same gullible mistakes now with regard to Iran: the neocons are still dominating the media. Oceans Uh...so what's your point about Ruppert Murdock? The counter culture has ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NY Times, Daily News & I could go on & on. All rags as far as MANY are concerned. OMT...the only reason the libs went along was because they were too cowardly to say what they were really thinking...that would have been MASS suicide for them in light of 911. It just goes to show what liars & sneaks they really are. That should scare EVERYONE. When it comes to religion ,politics and many aspects of life , people need their brains to sort out fiction and non fiction . Those who follow the crowd and the media with no reasoning are referred to as the new robots in a new century . Oh! You mean like the "NEW" agers & assorted thugs?
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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By "moderate Palestinian govt.," do you mean aligned with US interests? We curretly support Saudi Arabia, a country of monarchy, suppression of women, beheadings and incubation of "radical Islam?" We have a history of supporting brutal dictators like the Saudi Royals, Saddam, Somoza, the Shah of Iran, etc. when it is in our interest. Why is it an affront to us when suppressed people of those regimes we've supported want to strike back? Why are we always right? Excuses. There is always an excuse. If there is no excuse, there is a reason. "For national security" is a good one. "To fight terrorism" is another good one. "He was a bad dictator.." is another good one. "They have weapons of mass destruction and plan to use them on us..." is a great one. "They are responsible for 9-11." "They harbor terrorists" I could go on and on. There are always reasons and excuses. JB Of which when brought down to brass tacks, is not a valid nor legitimate reason for any of it. Bin laden strikes us and we go after Saddam, huh? Regardless to whatever Saddam was, he did not strike us, bin laden did. Who has given his life for 9/11? Not bin laden, Saddam and thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Was bin laden from Iraq? Did bin laden use Iraqis for his 9/11 plot? Where do we get the connection to Iraq from 9/11? I will say it again and this is not my philosophy, my friend warmachine is the one who brought it up, Terrorism is a warfare tactic, it does not describe a type of person, people, or nation. ALL warring nations employ terroristic tactics in warfare. The idiot leader of this country declared war against a warfare tactic. Utilized by all nations in conflict. But he is not so much of an idiot because he made more than half of this country believe that Saddam would stop another attack on this country when he did not do the first one. Pretty tricky there. He made people believe that we were protecting ourselves from "terrorists" who were never in Iraq to begin with. Pretty tricky there. It goes on and on. Terrorism is a warring tactic, it is not a type of people, country, etc.... It is a way of warring. Baby shrub made you believe that terrorists have a certain color, shape and type of face, when in reality they are all colors, shapes, types of faces, as all warring countries utilize terrorist tactics. I do not believe in the Administration version of events vis a vis 9/11. I believe the conspiracy theories as they make more sense . We have to ask ourselves : who benefited from this tragedy ?. Theories being the operative word here...meaning no proof!!! How's that for being a NON thinker? LOL 
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By "moderate Palestinian govt.," do you mean aligned with US interests? We curretly support Saudi Arabia, a country of monarchy, suppression of women, beheadings and incubation of "radical Islam?" We have a history of supporting brutal dictators like the Saudi Royals, Saddam, Somoza, the Shah of Iran, etc. when it is in our interest. Why is it an affront to us when suppressed people of those regimes we've supported want to strike back? Why are we always right? Excuses. There is always an excuse. If there is no excuse, there is a reason. "For national security" is a good one. "To fight terrorism" is another good one. "He was a bad dictator.." is another good one. "They have weapons of mass destruction and plan to use them on us..." is a great one. "They are responsible for 9-11." "They harbor terrorists" I could go on and on. There are always reasons and excuses. JB Of which when brought down to brass tacks, is not a valid nor legitimate reason for any of it. Bin laden strikes us and we go after Saddam, huh? Regardless to whatever Saddam was, he did not strike us, bin laden did. Who has given his life for 9/11? Not bin laden, Saddam and thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Was bin laden from Iraq? Did bin laden use Iraqis for his 9/11 plot? Where do we get the connection to Iraq from 9/11? I will say it again and this is not my philosophy, my friend warmachine is the one who brought it up, Terrorism is a warfare tactic, it does not describe a type of person, people, or nation. ALL warring nations employ terroristic tactics in warfare. The idiot leader of this country declared war against a warfare tactic. Utilized by all nations in conflict. But he is not so much of an idiot because he made more than half of this country believe that Saddam would stop another attack on this country when he did not do the first one. Pretty tricky there. He made people believe that we were protecting ourselves from "terrorists" who were never in Iraq to begin with. Pretty tricky there. It goes on and on. Terrorism is a warring tactic, it is not a type of people, country, etc.... It is a way of warring. Baby shrub made you believe that terrorists have a certain color, shape and type of face, when in reality they are all colors, shapes, types of faces, as all warring countries utilize terrorist tactics. I do not believe in the Administration version of events vis a vis 9/11. I believe the conspiracy theories as they make more sense . We have to ask ourselves : who benefited from this tragedy ?. Theories being the operative word here...meaning no proof!!! How's that for being a NON thinker? LOL Fact: There is NO PROOF that Bin Laden had anything whatsoever to do with 9-11 and no proof that the planes brought down the twin towers. Want to know why? Because the Mayor of New York made sure the evidence of the steel beams were shipped out of the country and melted down. It was the biggest cover up of all time. And you are a perfect example of a non-thinker.  I appreciate your example. JB |
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Uh,,,,,
 A 112-page document drawn up by Ramzi Binalshibh, of Al Qaeda, and released by Qatar-based TV station Al Jazeera, admits that the organisation was involved in the terrorist attacks in the USA on September 11th and warns of a wave of new terrorist activities. The document, called “The new reality of the Crusades” is about the justification for the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001 and celebrates the destruction caused by the attacks on the twin towers and the Pentagon, described by the author as “That glorious Tuesday”. http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/09/10/36235.html ================================================================ WASHINGTON, March 14, 2007 – Suspected al Qaeda operative Khalid Sheikh Muhammad has admitted masterminding the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks as well as the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. “I was responsible for the 9/11 operation, from A to Z,” an interpreter read from Muhammad’s statement to the Combatant Status Review Tribunal on March 10 in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The tribunal was an administrative hearing to determine only whether Muhammad could be designated as an enemy combatant. Muhammad used the opportunity to submit, through an interpreter, a two-part personal statement with 38 terrorism-related admissions. http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=32456 ================================================================ |
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Maybe they lied????
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Maybe they lied???? Yuh think? Of course it was a lie. |
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Edited by
sam53
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Wed 07/09/08 07:18 PM
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Uh,,,,, A 112-page document drawn up by Ramzi Binalshibh, of Al Qaeda, and released by Qatar-based TV station Al Jazeera, admits that the organisation was involved in the terrorist attacks in the USA on September 11th and warns of a wave of new terrorist activities. The document, called “The new reality of the Crusades” is about the justification for the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001 and celebrates the destruction caused by the attacks on the twin towers and the Pentagon, described by the author as “That glorious Tuesday”. http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/09/10/36235.html ================================================================ WASHINGTON, March 14, 2007 – Suspected al Qaeda operative Khalid Sheikh Muhammad has admitted masterminding the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks as well as the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. “I was responsible for the 9/11 operation, from A to Z,” an interpreter read from Muhammad’s statement to the Combatant Status Review Tribunal on March 10 in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The tribunal was an administrative hearing to determine only whether Muhammad could be designated as an enemy combatant. Muhammad used the opportunity to submit, through an interpreter, a two-part personal statement with 38 terrorism-related admissions. http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=32456 ================================================================ Al Djazeera is not to be trusted as it is a part of a broader propaganda machine showing many fake videos . According to some experts those videos are the works of the C.I.A. and their brothers in deception Al mossad . |
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Edited by
sam53
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Wed 07/09/08 07:14 PM
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Fact: There is NO PROOF that Bin Laden had anything whatsoever to do with 9-11 and no proof that the planes brought down the twin towers. Want to know why? Because the Mayor of New York made sure the evidence of the steel beams were shipped out of the country and melted down. It was the biggest cover up of all time. And you are a perfect example of a non-thinker. I appreciate your example. JB   .
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So, if the NeoCons support stopping global warming, as Rupert Murdoch is a HUGE supporter of the green movement, what does that mean? George Bush has jumped on this green bandwagon as well. So.... exactly whose side is the "green" movement on? NBC has now bought the Weather Channel as well, and NBC is the biggest advocate in all media for the "green" movement. Isn't it funny that the biggest opponents of NeoCons here are also closely allied to them on a common cause of 'saving the world'. I find it hilarious. Don't you just love it! To see the open hostility from the libs because other than BUSH bashng they have nothing in the way of REAL solutions to our problems. Grrrr.... hehehehe |
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So, if the NeoCons support stopping global warming, as Rupert Murdoch is a HUGE supporter of the green movement, what does that mean? George Bush has jumped on this green bandwagon as well. So.... exactly whose side is the "green" movement on? NBC has now bought the Weather Channel as well, and NBC is the biggest advocate in all media for the "green" movement. Isn't it funny that the biggest opponents of NeoCons here are also closely allied to them on a common cause of 'saving the world'. I find it hilarious. Don't you just love it! To see the open hostility from the libs because other than BUSH bashng they have nothing in the way of REAL solutions to our problems. Grrrr.... hehehehe In order to save the world, some believe you have to destroy the humans who are destroying the world. That means population control. Population control means.. have wars and kill people off. Population control means.. release killer viruses into the population and kill people off. Population control means.. make abortion legal, make the day after pill legal.. Population control mean passing laws about how many children you can have. (China has done this) Save the world, kill a person. That is what the green movement supports. JB |
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Maybe they lied???? Yuh think? Of course it was a lie. JB Be realistic for a change. Lindyy |
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Maybe they lied???? Yuh think? Of course it was a lie. JB Be realistic for a change. Lindyy Forged documents are not proof of anything. If they wanted proof of what happened on 9-11 they would have examined the steel beams and found that the building had been demolished by explosives. But, "thanks in large part to Time Magazine's "Man of the Year 2001", New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the steel beams were quickly recycled before investigators even had the chance to look at them! A media darling and lifelong supporter of Israel, Saint Rudy Giuliani made sure that the "smoking gun" evidence was destroyed and right quick too. Much of the steel was recycled in America, but an additional seventy thousand tons of WTC steel was sold to Metals Management - a New York company with a jewish (Zionist?) president named Alan Ratner. Ratner then turned around and shipped the WTC’s steel to China and India for recycling! " I am being very realistic. It is you and the dumbed down public who are unrealistic. There is NO PROOF that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with 9-11. 1. There was never any evidence, not even circumstantial 2. The war to replace the Taleban with a US puppet government was already in motion. The 9-11 attacks served as the perfect excuse, the "incident" to win the support of the American people and kick off the war. Three months after the attacks, and with the bombing of Afghani peasants in full swing, the US had still not provided one shred of evidence to link Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda "network" to 9-11. People in foreign countries were beginning to ask questions. Then one day, the Pentagon claimed that some unnamed source found a video tape in Afghanistan. The Bush gang began dropping hints in the media that this video shows Osama Bin Laden bragging and admitting his role in the attacks. How convenient! And how improbable. The "mastermind" of 9-11, who was so brilliant that he pulled off 9-11 without being detected, was careless enough to leave a "confession video" laying around to be discovered by the US! The video was shown on the news with English subtitles. Bin Laden's voice was so barely audible that even viewers in Arab nations had to rely on the Pentagon’s translated subtitles! An obedient American (Zionist) news media accepted the Pentagon story and translation without question. A few Arab media whores were even trotted out to vouch for the tape’s authenticity. Aha! This is the "smoking gun" they assured us. But this too is another vicious lie. JB |
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I have not seen anything that would amount to evidence that bin Laden was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, and quite a bit that suggests -- suggests -- that he wasn't. This is something that I know a bit about.
Friends who are in a better position to know think that it is more likely that one of two other groups carried out the attacks. 'Confessions' of al-Qaida operatives may not be all they seem to be. There is a lot of evidence that al-Qaida personnel (and those of other groups) have prepared stories to tell their interrogators if they are captured, stories that are designed to mislead counter-intelligence agencies. Al-Qaida became far more credible around the world when the US fingered them for the Sept 11 attacks. My guess is that are better off now for the accusaion than they would have been without it. And if indeed it was carried out by others, those others are breathing a lot easier now with the counter-terrorism forces chasing themselves around trying to find bin Laden. Oceans 
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Interesting!!!
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Fri 07/11/08 02:49 PM
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I have not seen anything that would amount to evidence that bin Laden was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, and quite a bit that suggests -- suggests -- that he wasn't. This is something that I know a bit about. Friends who are in a better position to know think that it is more likely that one of two other groups carried out the attacks. 'Confessions' of al-Qaida operatives may not be all they seem to be. There is a lot of evidence that al-Qaida personnel (and those of other groups) have prepared stories to tell their interrogators if they are captured, stories that are designed to mislead counter-intelligence agencies. Al-Qaida became far more credible around the world when the US fingered them for the Sept 11 attacks. My guess is that are better off now for the accusaion than they would have been without it. And if indeed it was carried out by others, those others are breathing a lot easier now with the counter-terrorism forces chasing themselves around trying to find bin Laden. Oceans where did you get this crap from...some off the wall left wing rag? It's lies like this that is going to get us killed. You should be ashamed. It's really disgusting how far you people will go to spread lies that put everyone in harm's way. HOW IRRESPONSIBLE!!!!! |
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I have not seen anything that would amount to evidence that bin Laden was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, and quite a bit that suggests -- suggests -- that he wasn't. This is something that I know a bit about. Friends who are in a better position to know think that it is more likely that one of two other groups carried out the attacks. 'Confessions' of al-Qaida operatives may not be all they seem to be. There is a lot of evidence that al-Qaida personnel (and those of other groups) have prepared stories to tell their interrogators if they are captured, stories that are designed to mislead counter-intelligence agencies. Al-Qaida became far more credible around the world when the US fingered them for the Sept 11 attacks. My guess is that are better off now for the accusaion than they would have been without it. And if indeed it was carried out by others, those others are breathing a lot easier now with the counter-terrorism forces chasing themselves around trying to find bin Laden. Oceans where did you get this crap from...some off the wall left wing rag? It's lies like this that is going to get us killed. You should be ashamed. It's really disgusting how far you people will go to spread lies that put everyone in harm's way. HOW IRRESPONSIBLE!!!!! It souds like Bush talking here . |
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