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Topic: One Solitary Life
Rapunzel Joined Tue 08/22/06 Posts: 16246	Fri 05/02/08 07:59 AM Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 05/02/08 08:01 AM
and i would just like to say that while i love my Lord Jesus Christ , I have also read the teachings of other great men and women ... I am very drawn to beauty & wisdom & have gleaned wonderful teachings & have read profound observations in many different gardens & fields and i hope that we can all truly find the good inside of each one of us .. i hope that we can uplift the good and seriously downplay the bad.... look for things that unite us, rather than the things that divide us... I love you all, even the thorns on my bountiful & Graceful ~ Fragrant, old-fashioned Rose Bush

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:01 AM
and i would just like to say that while i love my Lord Jesus Christ , I have also read the teachings of other great men and women ... I am not drawn to beauty & wisdom & have gleaned wonderful teachings & have read profound observations in many different gardens & fields and i hope that we can all truly find the good inside of each one of us .. i hope that we can uplift the good and seriously downplay the bad.... look for things that unite us, rather than the things that divide us... I love you all, even the thorns on my bountiful & Graceful ~ Fragrant, old-fashioned Rose Bush Thank you, Smirnoff!

symbelmyne Joined Mon 01/14/08 Posts: 5356	Fri 05/02/08 08:03 AM
Thank you, Smirnoff! guess we know what she likes to drink.

Rapunzel Joined Tue 08/22/06 Posts: 16246	Fri 05/02/08 08:04 AM Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 05/02/08 08:04 AM
i don't drink hard alcohol by the way

Rapunzel Joined Tue 08/22/06 Posts: 16246	Fri 05/02/08 08:06 AM Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 05/02/08 08:18 AM
and i would just like to say that while i love my Lord Jesus Christ , I have also read the teachings of other great men and women ... I am very drawn to beauty & wisdom & have gleaned wonderful teachings & have read profound observations in many different gardens & fields of amazing wisdom & great understanding and i hope that we can all truly find the good inside of each one of us i hope that we can uplift the good and seriously downplay the bad.... we need to look for things that unite us, rather than the things that divide us... I love you all, i really do & i will take the good with the bad... even the thorns, & the aphids on my bountiful & Graceful ~ Gorgeous Fragrant, old-fashioned Rose Bushes anyway...this is my message to all who are wise enough to hear it

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:06 AM
Thank you, Smirnoff! guess we know what she likes to drink. nah, it's just a nickname she uses when she is feeling silly.

Rapunzel Joined Tue 08/22/06 Posts: 16246	Fri 05/02/08 08:09 AM Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 05/02/08 08:10 AM
well, you ladies have a great day ...truly i wish you very well ~ Happy trails to you

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Fri 05/02/08 08:10 AM
All the armies that have ever marched, and all the navies that ever sailed, and all the parliaments that ever sat, and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as this “One Solitary Life.” (Author Anonymous) Actually this isn't true. It wasn't just "One Solitary Life". That's not true in the least. The reason this man is so popular is because it is claimed that he was the incarnation of the God of Abraham which was already a very powerful religion at the time this man was born. This man is nothing in and of himself. He only has meaning when he stands on the shoulders of an entire religion that preceded him for millennia. This is especially true of his death which would have absolutely no meaning whatsoever if it wasn’t for a belief in a God who is appeased by blood sacrifices in the first place. If people are going to make proclamations about this man the least they can do is be truthful in what they proclaim. Lying isn’t nice. It most certainly wasn’t just “One Solitary Life”. This is extremely misleading and completely false. This was just one character in a whole complex religion that dates back thousands of years before this man was ever born. Far from being “One Solitary life” it's a whole complex religion. I see no reason to lie about it. What's wrong with the telling the truth? NOT He is the same yesterday and today. He is the same forever. You are eluding yourself of that fact, my friend.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Fri 05/02/08 08:20 AM
I have not committed any lie The following implication is the lie Vanessa, He is still the centerpiece for much of the human race. All the armies that have ever marched, and all the navies that ever sailed, and all the parliaments that ever sat, and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as this “One Solitary Life.” It’s not “One Solitary Life” that had this impact. That’s the lie. It’s a whole complex religious dogma that has affected the life of man upon this earth, not “One Solitary Life”. It doesn’t matter what you believe. It’s still a lie to say that “One Solitary Life” is responsible for the impact this religion had on mankind. Judaism and Islam are both prime examples that this religion had a huge impact on mankind even without the “One Solitary Life” you speak of. It isn’t about what you believe. It’s simply untrue to claim that this impact was due to any solitary life. It was a whole complex dogma that had the impact. I just don’t understand why people feel they have to misrepresent these things. This just implies that they don’t feel they have much merit if explained properly. ABRA!!!!!! this is what you just don't get. Jesus is the God of Abraham. What makes him not the same? He is the LORD that spoke to Adam, so what don't you get? He is just as He has always been..,ONE!!!! someday......you will get it, perhaps. But as it stands, you are in for a big surprise when your body fails you, and fail you it will. And don't argue with me about your opinion of hell and where you choose to find yourself, I already know that you will stand before Jesus. Get your house in order, my friend. You have to deal with that whether you like it or not.

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:21 AM
I have not committed any lie The following implication is the lie Vanessa, He is still the centerpiece for much of the human race. All the armies that have ever marched, and all the navies that ever sailed, and all the parliaments that ever sat, and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as this “One Solitary Life.” It’s not “One Solitary Life” that had this impact. That’s the lie. It’s a whole complex religious dogma that has affected the life of man upon this earth, not “One Solitary Life”. It doesn’t matter what you believe. It’s still a lie to say that “One Solitary Life” is responsible for the impact this religion had on mankind. Judaism and Islam are both prime examples that this religion had a huge impact on mankind even without the “One Solitary Life” you speak of. It isn’t about what you believe. It’s simply untrue to claim that this impact was due to any solitary life. It was a whole complex dogma that had the impact. I just don’t understand why people feel they have to misrepresent these things. This just implies that they don’t feel they have much merit if explained properly. ABRA!!!!!! this is what you just don't get. Jesus is the God of Abraham. What makes him not the same? He is the LORD that spoke to Adam, so what don't you get? He is just as He has always been..,ONE!!!! someday......you will get it, perhaps. But as it stands, you are in for a big surprise when your body fails you, and fail you it will. And don't argue with me about your opinion of hell and where you choose to find yourself, I already know that you will stand before Jesus. Get your house in order, my friend. You have to deal with that whether you like it or not. Abra stands before whom he pleases. You have no right to say who it is.

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:24 AM
This is exactly my problem with this. You have a right to believe as you wish. So do the rest of us. You have no right to tell us that we have to answer to YOUR god. If someone did that to you, you would be up in arms. Christianity is not the only game in town, sorry.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Fri 05/02/08 08:27 AM
I have not committed any lie The following implication is the lie Vanessa, He is still the centerpiece for much of the human race. All the armies that have ever marched, and all the navies that ever sailed, and all the parliaments that ever sat, and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as this “One Solitary Life.” It’s not “One Solitary Life” that had this impact. That’s the lie. It’s a whole complex religious dogma that has affected the life of man upon this earth, not “One Solitary Life”. It doesn’t matter what you believe. It’s still a lie to say that “One Solitary Life” is responsible for the impact this religion had on mankind. Judaism and Islam are both prime examples that this religion had a huge impact on mankind even without the “One Solitary Life” you speak of. It isn’t about what you believe. It’s simply untrue to claim that this impact was due to any solitary life. It was a whole complex dogma that had the impact. I just don’t understand why people feel they have to misrepresent these things. This just implies that they don’t feel they have much merit if explained properly. ABRA!!!!!! this is what you just don't get. Jesus is the God of Abraham. What makes him not the same? He is the LORD that spoke to Adam, so what don't you get? He is just as He has always been..,ONE!!!! someday......you will get it, perhaps. But as it stands, you are in for a big surprise when your body fails you, and fail you it will. And don't argue with me about your opinion of hell and where you choose to find yourself, I already know that you will stand before Jesus. Get your house in order, my friend. You have to deal with that whether you like it or not. Abra stands before whom he pleases. You have no right to say who it is. some things just are....... and you have every right to say what you will, as you have done.

symbelmyne Joined Mon 01/14/08 Posts: 5356	Fri 05/02/08 08:30 AM Edited by symbelmyne on Fri 05/02/08 08:31 AM
ABRA!!!!!! this is what you just don't get. Jesus is the God of Abraham. What makes him not the same? He is the LORD that spoke to Adam, so what don't you get? He is just as He has always been..,ONE!!!! someday......you will get it, perhaps. But as it stands, you are in for a big surprise when your body fails you, and fail you it will. And don't argue with me about your opinion of hell and where you choose to find yourself, I already know that you will stand before Jesus. Get your house in order, my friend You have to deal with that whether you like it or not. Jesus was a nice jewish boy who preached love and tolerance and got nailed to a piece of wood for it...The only god that stood before Abraham was YHWH, the god of the Hebrews who formed a covenant with that being...think its time to brush up on the old testament...

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:34 AM
I have not committed any lie The following implication is the lie Vanessa, He is still the centerpiece for much of the human race. All the armies that have ever marched, and all the navies that ever sailed, and all the parliaments that ever sat, and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as this “One Solitary Life.” It’s not “One Solitary Life” that had this impact. That’s the lie. It’s a whole complex religious dogma that has affected the life of man upon this earth, not “One Solitary Life”. It doesn’t matter what you believe. It’s still a lie to say that “One Solitary Life” is responsible for the impact this religion had on mankind. Judaism and Islam are both prime examples that this religion had a huge impact on mankind even without the “One Solitary Life” you speak of. It isn’t about what you believe. It’s simply untrue to claim that this impact was due to any solitary life. It was a whole complex dogma that had the impact. I just don’t understand why people feel they have to misrepresent these things. This just implies that they don’t feel they have much merit if explained properly. ABRA!!!!!! this is what you just don't get. Jesus is the God of Abraham. What makes him not the same? He is the LORD that spoke to Adam, so what don't you get? He is just as He has always been..,ONE!!!! someday......you will get it, perhaps. But as it stands, you are in for a big surprise when your body fails you, and fail you it will. And don't argue with me about your opinion of hell and where you choose to find yourself, I already know that you will stand before Jesus. Get your house in order, my friend. You have to deal with that whether you like it or not. Abra stands before whom he pleases. You have no right to say who it is. some things just are....... and you have every right to say what you will, as you have done. Just because you choose to believe something does not mean everyone else has chosen to believe it. To imply that only you have the truth is quite arrogant. Our truths are as valid as yours. You will stand in judgement before my God.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Fri 05/02/08 08:36 AM
ABRA!!!!!! this is what you just don't get. Jesus is the God of Abraham. What makes him not the same? He is the LORD that spoke to Adam, so what don't you get? He is just as He has always been..,ONE!!!! someday......you will get it, perhaps. But as it stands, you are in for a big surprise when your body fails you, and fail you it will. And don't argue with me about your opinion of hell and where you choose to find yourself, I already know that you will stand before Jesus. Get your house in order, my friend You have to deal with that whether you like it or not. Jesus was a nice jewish boy who preached love and tolerance and got nailed to a piece of wood for it...The only god that stood before Abraham was YHWH, the god of the Hebrews who formed a covenant with that being...think its time to brush up on the old testament... you don't seen to realize that Jesus is that same person either. This is what is the whole of the message of Jesus Christ. He is that SAME ONE> Read the Bible and you will understand it. As it stands, you do not understand. If you seek to understand, then you will. I did not invent this point. IT IS THE POINT OF THE WHOLE WRITING. Christianity is hinged on this. Now you know. maybe it will make sense to you when you read it all for yourself. enjoy.

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:37 AM
I think the problem is that people can't seem to understand the difference between belief and truth. Just because you believe something does not mean it's true; no matter how much you wish it was, or how many times you proclaim it. It's still just your opinion, no more valid than mine.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Fri 05/02/08 08:39 AM
I have not committed any lie The following implication is the lie Vanessa, He is still the centerpiece for much of the human race. All the armies that have ever marched, and all the navies that ever sailed, and all the parliaments that ever sat, and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as this “One Solitary Life.” It’s not “One Solitary Life” that had this impact. That’s the lie. It’s a whole complex religious dogma that has affected the life of man upon this earth, not “One Solitary Life”. It doesn’t matter what you believe. It’s still a lie to say that “One Solitary Life” is responsible for the impact this religion had on mankind. Judaism and Islam are both prime examples that this religion had a huge impact on mankind even without the “One Solitary Life” you speak of. It isn’t about what you believe. It’s simply untrue to claim that this impact was due to any solitary life. It was a whole complex dogma that had the impact. I just don’t understand why people feel they have to misrepresent these things. This just implies that they don’t feel they have much merit if explained properly. ABRA!!!!!! this is what you just don't get. Jesus is the God of Abraham. What makes him not the same? He is the LORD that spoke to Adam, so what don't you get? He is just as He has always been..,ONE!!!! someday......you will get it, perhaps. But as it stands, you are in for a big surprise when your body fails you, and fail you it will. And don't argue with me about your opinion of hell and where you choose to find yourself, I already know that you will stand before Jesus. Get your house in order, my friend. You have to deal with that whether you like it or not. Abra stands before whom he pleases. You have no right to say who it is. some things just are....... and you have every right to say what you will, as you have done. Just because you choose to believe something does not mean everyone else has chosen to believe it. To imply that only you have the truth is quite arrogant. Our truths are as valid as yours. You will stand in judgement before my God. I believe I will stand before your God. He is the same. JESUS. What is arrogant is the lie that parades around as truth. What is not arrogant is the truth.

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:47 AM
I believe I will stand before your God. He is the same. JESUS. What is arrogant is the lie that parades around as truth. What is not arrogant is the truth. Please do not tell me what I believe. I don't speak for you; please don't speak for me. Jesus is your God, not mine. Please have respect for the beliefs of others.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Fri 05/02/08 08:54 AM
by the way.... click on the blue number displayed on my avatar and study my posts, which are many. The consistency of that is reflected in the whole of my posts, generally. In there, you will find every definitive commentary of scripture that defines and declares the efficacy of Jesus being JHWH and God, in general. Please note that God, as given in scripture, is different thatn the Creator in the distinction that man is concerned with his relationship with the Creator. The whole point of the Bible is that Jesus is the Word of God to man. That the Creator speaks to man throught the Word and that the Word is Jesus Christ, incarnate. Any other word is not God spoken to man, but another. Or Christ Jesus is a delusion. The whole point of the Holy Bible is to depict that Jesus is the incarnate Living Word of God. If that escapes you, it is because the knowledge ofthe truth of scripture has been misrepresented to your heart, however that happened. if you care....dare to know what is said.

hikerchick Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 13206	Fri 05/02/08 08:58 AM
by the way.... click on the blue number displayed on my avatar and study my posts, which are many. The consistency of that is reflected in the whole of my posts, generally. In there, you will find every definitive commentary of scripture that defines and declares the efficacy of Jesus being JHWH and God, in general. Please note that God, as given in scripture, is different thatn the Creator in the distinction that man is concerned with his relationship with the Creator. The whole point of the Bible is that Jesus is the Word of God to man. That the Creator speaks to man throught the Word and that the Word is Jesus Christ, incarnate. Any other word is not God spoken to man, but another. Or Christ Jesus is a delusion. The whole point of the Holy Bible is to depict that Jesus is the incarnate Living Word of God. If that escapes you, it is because the knowledge ofthe truth of scripture has been misrepresented to your heart, however that happened. if you care....dare to know what is said. You can't "prove" anything with scripture. I don't buy your bible. So you are back at square one. Your beliefs - my beliefs. Equally valid.