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Topic: One Solitary Life
hikerchick's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:49 PM
Then perhaps if you were to elaborate concerning the Smirnoff comment in the first place you wouldn't have gotten your finger stuck in your nose. I did not say you couldn't post or should go away. Neither should morning song. The rules..... please read them, do NOT say anything about praying. YOU said you were offended. I asked you to show me where it states that you have the right to not be offended. Twist it, turn it, but the question still remains. Who made you the bouncer? What if I find your avitar ofensive? I don't have the right to not be offended either. As long as no rules or laws are being broken I simply walk away and find my happiness elsewhere rather than forcing my surroundings to please me. drinker <- Diet Pepsi. flowerforyou


Honestly, I prefer Diet Coke, with lime if you have it.

The Smirnoff thing. Indeed, it should not have been directed at you. My apology. Smirnoff was created as a second profile, not an avatar - wrong choice of words on my part; to come in and do the dirty work of someone who has a reputation to protect. I thought you were another one until I checked and your profile seemed real. So I was in error. For that, I do apologize. I just couldn't understand why someone with whom I have never exchanged words, who has but 2 post, should be so angry with me. It makes no sense. Mr. Smirnoff was much much worse, evil in his venom. Makes me shiver; he was hateful. It seemed odd to me that his first post was an attack on me and he knew so much about me. Strange. His profile was brandy new, no friends, no essay, no pic, no interests, nothing but an abiding hatred for me.
Hmmmmm

star_tin_gover's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:51 PM

Jeez, this religion thing has less "peace" than a western show down............. Let's say an Alien or a non-Christian was looking for a religion, do you think he or she would be convinced to join the Christian faith ? Come on people, talk, live and share PEACE

laugh Yeah, sometimes it is a war zone. You can only turn the other cheek so many times before you fart. laugh

hikerchick's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:52 PM


I think the problem is that people can't seem to understand the difference between belief and truth.

Just because you believe something does not mean it's true; no matter how much you wish it was, or how many times you proclaim it. It's still just your opinion, no more valid than mine.


Yes. But in and of itself this confusion of belief and truth is not problematic.

Only when others are required to share your beliefs as truths have you created a problem. Or when you "threaten" them for their unbelief. Most believers say that they are not trying to threaten or intimidate or "force" their beliefs on others.

But, what exactly do they think "you will answer to my god one day" or "another will judge you" etc. are? They are threats, they are intimidation. If thats not your intent than don't say these silly things...

Peace to all, regardless of your beliefs. flowerforyou


Very nicely put.flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:56 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 05/02/08 07:02 PM








To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.

JB flowerforyou


Amen to that.

Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics! flowerforyou

If you are stupid enough to walk in a mine field don't ask God to protect you from your own wanton stupidity. Free will. You chose to get into this discussion. Try the tolerance for others that you preach from your soap box. As hypocritical as it may seem. bigsmile


Excuse me, Mr. 2 posts and now I am an expert - people have the right to post in the religion forums without fear of being subjected to prosletyzing.

Praying is proseltyzing? If you see a family praying for their meal at a restaurant do you feel threatened there as well? Maybe reach over and rub the kid's face in his plate all the while screaming "Stop it! I gots mah rahts!" Pleeeeease. Get a grip on yourself. Who made you the constitutional bouncer?


ah, I met your good friend Smirnoff last night. Charming fellow, as are you.

I have no problem with a family praying. If they come to my table and start praying over me, I have a problem.

Is there anything in that distinction that is not clear to you?

Perhaps if you were to back off on the Smirnoff a bit you wouldn't appear as you do. Can you show me in the Bill of Rights where it states that you have the right to not be offended? Either jump or get off the freakin' bridge lady, you are holding up traffic.


And how is it that I appear? I don't like being prayed over. Does that make me drunk? And the Smirnoff reference was for my good friend Rapunzel. he is a croney of hers. In fact I do not drink, not that that has anything to do with this.

I was not referring to the Bill of Rights so much as site rules.I have the right to post an opposing view without fear of being attacked. I have the right to be here; you can't make me leave. I have not attacked anyone. I have disagreed. That is not against site rules.

Why exactly do you and your friends have such a problem with me? Must everyone agree with you?




You are tripping....


you are a stalker and have stalked me for quite some time now...



you have never been my friend, huh


not even close... noway


and you still are not nice....huh


i have no idea why you keep mentioning the word smirnoff...drinker





please check in with your psychiatrist for some professional help flowerforyou






BonnyMiss's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:56 PM


Jeez, this religion thing has less "peace" than a western show down............. Let's say an Alien or a non-Christian was looking for a religion, do you think he or she would be convinced to join the Christian faith ? Come on people, talk, live and share PEACE

laugh Yeah, sometimes it is a war zone. You can only turn the other cheek so many times before you fart. laugh


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
This is why I keep my sexual orientation, child rearing, shopping, drinking, driving,living,political and religious habits/ beliefs to myself,it saves arguments

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:00 PM



Jeez, this religion thing has less "peace" than a western show down............. Let's say an Alien or a non-Christian was looking for a religion, do you think he or she would be convinced to join the Christian faith ? Come on people, talk, live and share PEACE

laugh Yeah, sometimes it is a war zone. You can only turn the other cheek so many times before you fart. laugh


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
This is why I keep my sexual orientation, child rearing, shopping, drinking, driving,living,political and religious habits/ beliefs to myself,it saves arguments




drinker you are so right !!! flowerforyou Bonny Miss drinker

hikerchick's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:03 PM









To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.

JB flowerforyou


Amen to that.

Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics! flowerforyou

If you are stupid enough to walk in a mine field don't ask God to protect you from your own wanton stupidity. Free will. You chose to get into this discussion. Try the tolerance for others that you preach from your soap box. As hypocritical as it may seem. bigsmile


Excuse me, Mr. 2 posts and now I am an expert - people have the right to post in the religion forums without fear of being subjected to prosletyzing.

Praying is proseltyzing? If you see a family praying for their meal at a restaurant do you feel threatened there as well? Maybe reach over and rub the kid's face in his plate all the while screaming "Stop it! I gots mah rahts!" Pleeeeease. Get a grip on yourself. Who made you the constitutional bouncer?


ah, I met your good friend Smirnoff last night. Charming fellow, as are you.

I have no problem with a family praying. If they come to my table and start praying over me, I have a problem.

Is there anything in that distinction that is not clear to you?

Perhaps if you were to back off on the Smirnoff a bit you wouldn't appear as you do. Can you show me in the Bill of Rights where it states that you have the right to not be offended? Either jump or get off the freakin' bridge lady, you are holding up traffic.


And how is it that I appear? I don't like being prayed over. Does that make me drunk? And the Smirnoff reference was for my good friend Rapunzel. he is a croney of hers. In fact I do not drink, not that that has anything to do with this.

I was not referring to the Bill of Rights so much as site rules.I have the right to post an opposing view without fear of being attacked. I have the right to be here; you can't make me leave. I have not attacked anyone. I have disagreed. That is not against site rules.

Why exactly do you and your friends have such a problem with me? Must everyone agree with you?




You are tripping....


you are a stalker and have stalked me for quite some time now...



you have never been my friend, huh


not even close... noway


and you still are not nice....huh


i have no idea why you keep mentioning the word smirnoff...drinker




you are tripping i say ...


you are very delusional




you should check with your mental health doctor for some help


you are truly speaking another language





I have never pretended to be your friend. People are allowed to be on this site and not be your friend. Sorry if that idea offends you.

You know exactly why I mention smirnoff. Play innocent all you like.

I am not a stalker. I have posted in dozens of thread that were refreshingly Rapunzel free. I can post in this one as well, if I like.

why don't you all enlighten each other with your wonderful topic and stop worrying about me? You know - ignore me and I will go away. Keep battering me and I will stay and defend myself. Your choice. Fight or talk about your wonderful god.

hikerchick's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:04 PM




Jeez, this religion thing has less "peace" than a western show down............. Let's say an Alien or a non-Christian was looking for a religion, do you think he or she would be convinced to join the Christian faith ? Come on people, talk, live and share PEACE

laugh Yeah, sometimes it is a war zone. You can only turn the other cheek so many times before you fart. laugh


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
This is why I keep my sexual orientation, child rearing, shopping, drinking, driving,living,political and religious habits/ beliefs to myself,it saves arguments




drinker you are so right !!! flowerforyou Bonny Miss drinker


Yes, Bonny Miss rocks. She is straight up wonderful!drinker

BonnyMiss's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:14 PM





Jeez, this religion thing has less "peace" than a western show down............. Let's say an Alien or a non-Christian was looking for a religion, do you think he or she would be convinced to join the Christian faith ? Come on people, talk, live and share PEACE

laugh Yeah, sometimes it is a war zone. You can only turn the other cheek so many times before you fart. laugh


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
This is why I keep my sexual orientation, child rearing, shopping, drinking, driving,living,political and religious habits/ beliefs to myself,it saves arguments




drinker you are so right !!! flowerforyou Bonny Miss drinker


Yes, Bonny Miss rocks. She is straight up wonderful!drinker

Ok, now I'm going to adopt a monkey and dress it up laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

star_tin_gover's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:17 PM










To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.

JB flowerforyou


Amen to that.

Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics! flowerforyou

If you are stupid enough to walk in a mine field don't ask God to protect you from your own wanton stupidity. Free will. You chose to get into this discussion. Try the tolerance for others that you preach from your soap box. As hypocritical as it may seem. bigsmile


Excuse me, Mr. 2 posts and now I am an expert - people have the right to post in the religion forums without fear of being subjected to prosletyzing.

Praying is proseltyzing? If you see a family praying for their meal at a restaurant do you feel threatened there as well? Maybe reach over and rub the kid's face in his plate all the while screaming "Stop it! I gots mah rahts!" Pleeeeease. Get a grip on yourself. Who made you the constitutional bouncer?


ah, I met your good friend Smirnoff last night. Charming fellow, as are you.

I have no problem with a family praying. If they come to my table and start praying over me, I have a problem.

Is there anything in that distinction that is not clear to you?

Perhaps if you were to back off on the Smirnoff a bit you wouldn't appear as you do. Can you show me in the Bill of Rights where it states that you have the right to not be offended? Either jump or get off the freakin' bridge lady, you are holding up traffic.


And how is it that I appear? I don't like being prayed over. Does that make me drunk? And the Smirnoff reference was for my good friend Rapunzel. he is a croney of hers. In fact I do not drink, not that that has anything to do with this.

I was not referring to the Bill of Rights so much as site rules.I have the right to post an opposing view without fear of being attacked. I have the right to be here; you can't make me leave. I have not attacked anyone. I have disagreed. That is not against site rules.

Why exactly do you and your friends have such a problem with me? Must everyone agree with you?




You are tripping....


you are a stalker and have stalked me for quite some time now...



you have never been my friend, huh


not even close... noway


and you still are not nice....huh


i have no idea why you keep mentioning the word smirnoff...drinker




you are tripping i say ...


you are very delusional




you should check with your mental health doctor for some help


you are truly speaking another language





I have never pretended to be your friend. People are allowed to be on this site and not be your friend. Sorry if that idea offends you.

You know exactly why I mention smirnoff. Play innocent all you like.

I am not a stalker. I have posted in dozens of thread that were refreshingly Rapunzel free. I can post in this one as well, if I like.

why don't you all enlighten each other with your wonderful topic and stop worrying about me? You know - ignore me and I will go away. Keep battering me and I will stay and defend myself. Your choice. Fight or talk about your wonderful god.

No, I want to talk about YOUR wonderful god, goat roper. Stick around but get ready to take the gloves off.:wink:

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:22 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 05/02/08 07:27 PM










To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.

JB flowerforyou


Amen to that.

Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics! flowerforyou

If you are stupid enough to walk in a mine field don't ask God to protect you from your own wanton stupidity. Free will. You chose to get into this discussion. Try the tolerance for others that you preach from your soap box. As hypocritical as it may seem. bigsmile


Excuse me, Mr. 2 posts and now I am an expert - people have the right to post in the religion forums without fear of being subjected to prosletyzing.

Praying is proseltyzing? If you see a family praying for their meal at a restaurant do you feel threatened there as well? Maybe reach over and rub the kid's face in his plate all the while screaming "Stop it! I gots mah rahts!" Pleeeeease. Get a grip on yourself. Who made you the constitutional bouncer?


ah, I met your good friend Smirnoff last night. Charming fellow, as are you.

I have no problem with a family praying. If they come to my table and start praying over me, I have a problem.

Is there anything in that distinction that is not clear to you?

Perhaps if you were to back off on the Smirnoff a bit you wouldn't appear as you do. Can you show me in the Bill of Rights where it states that you have the right to not be offended? Either jump or get off the freakin' bridge lady, you are holding up traffic.


And how is it that I appear? I don't like being prayed over. Does that make me drunk? And the Smirnoff reference was for my good friend Rapunzel. he is a croney of hers. In fact I do not drink, not that that has anything to do with this.

I was not referring to the Bill of Rights so much as site rules.I have the right to post an opposing view without fear of being attacked. I have the right to be here; you can't make me leave. I have not attacked anyone. I have disagreed. That is not against site rules.

Why exactly do you and your friends have such a problem with me? Must everyone agree with you?




You are tripping....


you are a stalker and have stalked me for quite some time now...



you have never been my friend, huh


not even close... noway


and you still are not nice....huh


i have no idea why you keep mentioning the word smirnoff...drinker




you are tripping i say ...


you are very delusional




you should check with your mental health doctor for some help


you are truly speaking another language





I have never pretended to be your friend. People are allowed to be on this site and not be your friend. Sorry if that idea offends you.

You know exactly why I mention smirnoff. Play innocent all you like.

I am not a stalker. I have posted in dozens of thread that were refreshingly Rapunzel free. I can post in this one as well, if I like.

why don't you all enlighten each other with your wonderful topic and stop worrying about me? You know - ignore me and I will go away. Keep battering me and I will stay and defend myself. Your choice. Fight or talk about your wonderful god.








you speak to me as if you know me,huhhuh huh



you do not know me....not at allnoway noway noway





you insinuate that i have knowledge huh


of what the heck you are talking about ???? noway


i do not know what you are referring to huh


you have been the one who has been battering...devil


you are invading on my thread....smokin



i have asked you to leave drinker



and go play some where else.....flowerforyou



please go find a life elsewhere drinker

hikerchick's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:26 PM











To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.

JB flowerforyou


Amen to that.

Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics! flowerforyou

If you are stupid enough to walk in a mine field don't ask God to protect you from your own wanton stupidity. Free will. You chose to get into this discussion. Try the tolerance for others that you preach from your soap box. As hypocritical as it may seem. bigsmile


Excuse me, Mr. 2 posts and now I am an expert - people have the right to post in the religion forums without fear of being subjected to prosletyzing.

Praying is proseltyzing? If you see a family praying for their meal at a restaurant do you feel threatened there as well? Maybe reach over and rub the kid's face in his plate all the while screaming "Stop it! I gots mah rahts!" Pleeeeease. Get a grip on yourself. Who made you the constitutional bouncer?


ah, I met your good friend Smirnoff last night. Charming fellow, as are you.

I have no problem with a family praying. If they come to my table and start praying over me, I have a problem.

Is there anything in that distinction that is not clear to you?

Perhaps if you were to back off on the Smirnoff a bit you wouldn't appear as you do. Can you show me in the Bill of Rights where it states that you have the right to not be offended? Either jump or get off the freakin' bridge lady, you are holding up traffic.


And how is it that I appear? I don't like being prayed over. Does that make me drunk? And the Smirnoff reference was for my good friend Rapunzel. he is a croney of hers. In fact I do not drink, not that that has anything to do with this.

I was not referring to the Bill of Rights so much as site rules.I have the right to post an opposing view without fear of being attacked. I have the right to be here; you can't make me leave. I have not attacked anyone. I have disagreed. That is not against site rules.

Why exactly do you and your friends have such a problem with me? Must everyone agree with you?




You are tripping....


you are a stalker and have stalked me for quite some time now...



you have never been my friend, huh


not even close... noway


and you still are not nice....huh


i have no idea why you keep mentioning the word smirnoff...drinker




you are tripping i say ...


you are very delusional




you should check with your mental health doctor for some help


you are truly speaking another language





I have never pretended to be your friend. People are allowed to be on this site and not be your friend. Sorry if that idea offends you.

You know exactly why I mention smirnoff. Play innocent all you like.

I am not a stalker. I have posted in dozens of thread that were refreshingly Rapunzel free. I can post in this one as well, if I like.

why don't you all enlighten each other with your wonderful topic and stop worrying about me? You know - ignore me and I will go away. Keep battering me and I will stay and defend myself. Your choice. Fight or talk about your wonderful god.

No, I want to talk about YOUR wonderful god, goat roper. Stick around but get ready to take the gloves off.:wink:


oh - I was ready to get all huffy and then saw you winking at me. I don't think you and I have ever had words..I wouldn't expect you would have a problem with me.

And this thread has been seriously hijacked. Please - continue with the original topic.

I don't speak about my beliefs much - religion is a personal thing and I have no desire to try to change anyone else's mind. Your religion brings you comfort and I respect that.

star_tin_gover's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:26 PM

Then perhaps if you were to elaborate concerning the Smirnoff comment in the first place you wouldn't have gotten your finger stuck in your nose. I did not say you couldn't post or should go away. Neither should morning song. The rules..... please read them, do NOT say anything about praying. YOU said you were offended. I asked you to show me where it states that you have the right to not be offended. Twist it, turn it, but the question still remains. Who made you the bouncer? What if I find your avitar ofensive? I don't have the right to not be offended either. As long as no rules or laws are being broken I simply walk away and find my happiness elsewhere rather than forcing my surroundings to please me. drinker <- Diet Pepsi. flowerforyou


Honestly, I prefer Diet Coke, with lime if you have it.

The Smirnoff thing. Indeed, it should not have been directed at you. My apology. Smirnoff was created as a second profile, not an avatar - wrong choice of words on my part; to come in and do the dirty work of someone who has a reputation to protect. I thought you were another one until I checked and your profile seemed real. So I was in error. For that, I do apologize. I just couldn't understand why someone with whom I have never exchanged words, who has but 2 post, should be so angry with me. It makes no sense. Mr. Smirnoff was much much worse, evil in his venom. Makes me shiver; he was hateful. It seemed odd to me that his first post was an attack on me and he knew so much about me. Strange. His profile was brandy new, no friends, no essay, no pic, no interests, nothing but an abiding hatred for me.
Hmmmmm

laugh You are silly! I don't hate you! flowerforyou I simply do not agree with your comments concerning prayer in a post in ANY forum. I have seen prayers in other forums and have not seen anyone "pull the pin" because they were so outraged that they had to ignore a prayer that they did not like. Oddly, in the Religion forum of all places, a prayer is not to be allowed? Am I the only person that sees the irony in this?drinker <- Oki doki, Diet Coke works. :wink: flowerforyou Don't get me wrong, I am having fun with this. I see it as trivial but i think you do not and it comes back to the right to not be offended comment. Political correctness is for people that have no balls.blushing

hikerchick's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:27 PM











To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.

JB flowerforyou


Amen to that.

Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics! flowerforyou

If you are stupid enough to walk in a mine field don't ask God to protect you from your own wanton stupidity. Free will. You chose to get into this discussion. Try the tolerance for others that you preach from your soap box. As hypocritical as it may seem. bigsmile


Excuse me, Mr. 2 posts and now I am an expert - people have the right to post in the religion forums without fear of being subjected to prosletyzing.

Praying is proseltyzing? If you see a family praying for their meal at a restaurant do you feel threatened there as well? Maybe reach over and rub the kid's face in his plate all the while screaming "Stop it! I gots mah rahts!" Pleeeeease. Get a grip on yourself. Who made you the constitutional bouncer?


ah, I met your good friend Smirnoff last night. Charming fellow, as are you.

I have no problem with a family praying. If they come to my table and start praying over me, I have a problem.

Is there anything in that distinction that is not clear to you?

Perhaps if you were to back off on the Smirnoff a bit you wouldn't appear as you do. Can you show me in the Bill of Rights where it states that you have the right to not be offended? Either jump or get off the freakin' bridge lady, you are holding up traffic.


And how is it that I appear? I don't like being prayed over. Does that make me drunk? And the Smirnoff reference was for my good friend Rapunzel. he is a croney of hers. In fact I do not drink, not that that has anything to do with this.

I was not referring to the Bill of Rights so much as site rules.I have the right to post an opposing view without fear of being attacked. I have the right to be here; you can't make me leave. I have not attacked anyone. I have disagreed. That is not against site rules.

Why exactly do you and your friends have such a problem with me? Must everyone agree with you?




You are tripping....


you are a stalker and have stalked me for quite some time now...



you have never been my friend, huh


not even close... noway


and you still are not nice....huh


i have no idea why you keep mentioning the word smirnoff...drinker




you are tripping i say ...


you are very delusional




you should check with your mental health doctor for some help


you are truly speaking another language





I have never pretended to be your friend. People are allowed to be on this site and not be your friend. Sorry if that idea offends you.

You know exactly why I mention smirnoff. Play innocent all you like.

I am not a stalker. I have posted in dozens of thread that were refreshingly Rapunzel free. I can post in this one as well, if I like.

why don't you all enlighten each other with your wonderful topic and stop worrying about me? You know - ignore me and I will go away. Keep battering me and I will stay and defend myself. Your choice. Fight or talk about your wonderful god.







you have been the one who has been battering...devil


you are invading on my thread....smokin



i have asked you to leave drinker



and go play some where else.....flowerforyou



please go find a life elsewhere drinker



umm..no thanks. Carry on with your topic.

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:28 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 05/02/08 07:29 PM
no thanks....flowerforyou



i'm done here for now.... drinker


hikerchick's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:29 PM


Then perhaps if you were to elaborate concerning the Smirnoff comment in the first place you wouldn't have gotten your finger stuck in your nose. I did not say you couldn't post or should go away. Neither should morning song. The rules..... please read them, do NOT say anything about praying. YOU said you were offended. I asked you to show me where it states that you have the right to not be offended. Twist it, turn it, but the question still remains. Who made you the bouncer? What if I find your avitar ofensive? I don't have the right to not be offended either. As long as no rules or laws are being broken I simply walk away and find my happiness elsewhere rather than forcing my surroundings to please me. drinker <- Diet Pepsi. flowerforyou


Honestly, I prefer Diet Coke, with lime if you have it.

The Smirnoff thing. Indeed, it should not have been directed at you. My apology. Smirnoff was created as a second profile, not an avatar - wrong choice of words on my part; to come in and do the dirty work of someone who has a reputation to protect. I thought you were another one until I checked and your profile seemed real. So I was in error. For that, I do apologize. I just couldn't understand why someone with whom I have never exchanged words, who has but 2 post, should be so angry with me. It makes no sense. Mr. Smirnoff was much much worse, evil in his venom. Makes me shiver; he was hateful. It seemed odd to me that his first post was an attack on me and he knew so much about me. Strange. His profile was brandy new, no friends, no essay, no pic, no interests, nothing but an abiding hatred for me.
Hmmmmm

laugh You are silly! I don't hate you! flowerforyou I simply do not agree with your comments concerning prayer in a post in ANY forum. I have seen prayers in other forums and have not seen anyone "pull the pin" because they were so outraged that they had to ignore a prayer that they did not like. Oddly, in the Religion forum of all places, a prayer is not to be allowed? Am I the only person that sees the irony in this?drinker <- Oki doki, Diet Coke works. :wink: flowerforyou Don't get me wrong, I am having fun with this. I see it as trivial but i think you do not and it comes back to the right to not be offended comment. Political correctness is for people that have no balls.blushing


please let me try to explain - you seem smart and reasonable - if someone says a general prayer - fine. If they pray for themselves - fine. But to pray for someone who has already stated that he does not believe in your God smacks of proslytizing in my opinion. It is as if you are saying, you need MY God to protect you because what you believe is wrong.

That is all I am saying.

BonnyMiss's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:30 PM
To err is human; to forgive is divine." Some of the most difficult words for humans to say are: "I have sinned. I am sorry. I forgive." Yet, if we are to be like Jesus we must learn the art of forgiveness. It is a serious matter to be unforgiving. There is a principle revealed in the model prayer given by our Lord to his disciples.


Too often we humans foolishly refuse to extend forgiveness on the basis that we do not believe in the sincerity of the one requesting it. What dangerous ground this is. Only God has the power to look within the heart and judge sincerity. We are to forgive whenever forgiveness is requested (Luke 17:3­4). To rebuff a request to make right a wrong is to place our own soul in jeopardy. "It is only the forgiving who are qualified to receive forgiveness.

Living a Christian life means
Treating others with love. Philippians 2:3-4 says, "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others."




Living the Christian life does not mean enjoying a life of ease and never experiencing problems. 1 Peter 5:8 says that there is an enemy who wishes to destroy us: "Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." But we also read that Jesus has overcome the world!

No matter what opposition you face, living the Christian life is worth it! Enjoying a relationship with God and His Son Jesus, being confident of where you will spend eternity, and living in day-to-day fellowship with Him is far greater than any opposition you may face.

Living out the teachings of Christ. Jesus taught: "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:3-10).
# Sharing your faith. Matthew 5:14-16 says, "You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."


This was sent to me in am email from my sister, I keep it on my desktop and thought it appropriate to share it here

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Fri 05/02/08 07:31 PM












To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.

JB flowerforyou


Amen to that.

Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics! flowerforyou

If you are stupid enough to walk in a mine field don't ask God to protect you from your own wanton stupidity. Free will. You chose to get into this discussion. Try the tolerance for others that you preach from your soap box. As hypocritical as it may seem. bigsmile


Excuse me, Mr. 2 posts and now I am an expert - people have the right to post in the religion forums without fear of being subjected to prosletyzing.

Praying is proseltyzing? If you see a family praying for their meal at a restaurant do you feel threatened there as well? Maybe reach over and rub the kid's face in his plate all the while screaming "Stop it! I gots mah rahts!" Pleeeeease. Get a grip on yourself. Who made you the constitutional bouncer?


ah, I met your good friend Smirnoff last night. Charming fellow, as are you.

I have no problem with a family praying. If they come to my table and start praying over me, I have a problem.

Is there anything in that distinction that is not clear to you?

Perhaps if you were to back off on the Smirnoff a bit you wouldn't appear as you do. Can you show me in the Bill of Rights where it states that you have the right to not be offended? Either jump or get off the freakin' bridge lady, you are holding up traffic.


And how is it that I appear? I don't like being prayed over. Does that make me drunk? And the Smirnoff reference was for my good friend Rapunzel. he is a croney of hers. In fact I do not drink, not that that has anything to do with this.

I was not referring to the Bill of Rights so much as site rules.I have the right to post an opposing view without fear of being attacked. I have the right to be here; you can't make me leave. I have not attacked anyone. I have disagreed. That is not against site rules.

Why exactly do you and your friends have such a problem with me? Must everyone agree with you?




You are tripping....


you are a stalker and have stalked me for quite some time now...



you have never been my friend, huh


not even close... noway


and you still are not nice....huh


i have no idea why you keep mentioning the word smirnoff...drinker




you are tripping i say ...


you are very delusional




you should check with your mental health doctor for some help


you are truly speaking another language





I have never pretended to be your friend. People are allowed to be on this site and not be your friend. Sorry if that idea offends you.

You know exactly why I mention smirnoff. Play innocent all you like.

I am not a stalker. I have posted in dozens of thread that were refreshingly Rapunzel free. I can post in this one as well, if I like.

why don't you all enlighten each other with your wonderful topic and stop worrying about me? You know - ignore me and I will go away. Keep battering me and I will stay and defend myself. Your choice. Fight or talk about your wonderful god.

No, I want to talk about YOUR wonderful god, goat roper. Stick around but get ready to take the gloves off.:wink:


oh - I was ready to get all huffy and then saw you winking at me. I don't think you and I have ever had words..I wouldn't expect you would have a problem with me.

And this thread has been seriously hijacked. Please - continue with the original topic.

I don't speak about my beliefs much - religion is a personal thing and I have no desire to try to change anyone else's mind. Your religion brings you comfort and I respect that.

That was very kind of you. Thank you! My faith does bring comfort. That made me think. Thank you.:wink:

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Fri 05/02/08 07:32 PM
Trust me Star, I am having more fun than you can imagine. It was not political correctness that drove me so much as a sense of fairness. I am big on that and it gets me into trouble alot!

And the hatred for me- I didn't mean you. I meant Smirnoff.

It's starting to sound like he is my imaginary playmate.

Honest Mom!! Smirnoff did it!!!laugh

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Fri 05/02/08 07:33 PM
Ive read all 9 pages of this post, Im praying for some asprin and vodka right now...your prayers for a speedy recovery from my headache are most welcomed at this point....

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