Topic: Sensitive people please stay out
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Thu 05/01/08 10:08 PM

Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.


I just have a problem with a hypocritical, two-faced system that hires and exploits immigrant, thus lowering wages for ALL workers, and then turns around and uses the same people for political spin just to look good with the masses...
I dont know why its so hard to understand this....if you keep hiring them they will keep coming!!!! Hold the business accountable for breaking the law and you'll have no more problems with "illegal" immigrants.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:10 PM


I find the lose of the cultures and languages sad and unnecessary. English does not need to be our official language, we speak english here that does not need to be established and if someone would like to teach me other languages I would love it.

As for the prejudice of the illegals, yes rob, some do get prejudice with their "fixes" and opinions of the issues involved. The subject itself is not prejudice, it is the stygma that gets put on it that is. That is all from me for the night on this subject as I need my beauty sleep so good night all.flowerforyou

the reason many want a national language is to save tax dollars on the printing and other communications of the govt literature

Then it is a poor reason. For it gives the right to force English on others. Perhaps legally open the door to other Residential systems. Again part of the decline of the Mohicans was the ailments brought in by settlers not just tribal warfare.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:18 PM
the united states is one of the very few that do not have a national language

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Thu 05/01/08 10:20 PM


Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.


I just have a problem with a hypocritical, two-faced system that hires and exploits immigrant, thus lowering wages for ALL workers, and then turns around and uses the same people for political spin just to look good with the masses...
I dont know why its so hard to understand this....if you keep hiring them they will keep coming!!!! Hold the business accountable for breaking the law and you'll have no more problems with "illegal" immigrants.


they did hold one temp. office accountable here in our town, and fined them millions and the owners were sent to prison. however, our county is one of the fastest growing hispanic population in the state according to recent news. they simply went to other offices. our country will never get rid of all of the illegal immigrants because they are flowing in faster than our gov. deports them. its just how it is. they are coming to make a better life for family and to feed their children.

concerning my friends-----not the entire population-----they leave their wives with unborn babies to come here to make money to pay the hospital bills so their child doesnt die because the hospital in those areas dont allow service for credit. they want cash up front. in some places the hospital is hours away. they may have the money for the trip, but not for the hospital once they get there. this is the case with most of my friends. many have babies they have not seen in years, and some they have never seen at all.
i dont think it is right, but i would do the same thing (as im sure many would) to make a life for my family if our country was in that shape.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:23 PM
Edited by karmafury on Thu 05/01/08 10:24 PM

the united states is one of the very few that do not have a national language


Perhaps it was intentional of the founders? That a mixture of all would create a stronger nation united by the idea of a common nation not a common language.

But then what do I know. I'm just a Canuck stuck with two languages and one province that can't even agree with that idea.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:25 PM

Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.


I think its ridiculous to tell and label other people as illegals when this country was founded on the context of misrepresentation and to be blunt stealing from the Native Americans who were here in the first place.........Its amazing how people forget or have tunnel vision when it doesnt involve their own ethnicity and culture but to be real this country and the people in it have no true justification to point fingers at people who just as yourself are searching for the so-called American Dream which many of your ancestors did the same and they didnt have to sign no paperwork or have to be claimed as illegals..........This country was founded on freedom and people need to remember that it just doesnt imply the people in this country but the people who come to live and get opportunity from this country...............I pity us all for being so shallow and undeducated...........take care

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Thu 05/01/08 10:25 PM


"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


-Statue of Liberty


that was written by the french


The Statue was a gift from France, but the poem was written by an American woman.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:30 PM



"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


-Statue of Liberty


that was written by the french


The Statue was a gift from France, but the poem was written by an American woman.


i post corrected i guess flowerforyou

but it still is not govt policy bigsmile

but all those that want to condemn the united states people that are against ILLEGAL entry to the united states read the laws of other countries regarding this issue


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Thu 05/01/08 10:34 PM


Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.



i went through hell to be legal...why shouldn't they...?huh



i mean being legal of course...not going through hell


By following our laws to get into our country you have shown respect for those laws & you are a welcome addition to our society.flowerforyou Where are you from & are you a citizen yet? My ancestors on my fathers side were Quakers & came here with William Penn. On my mothers side, I am just 3 generations from Ireland & they came thru Ellis Island.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:38 PM
<----still catching up

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Thu 05/01/08 10:41 PM


Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.


I just have a problem with a hypocritical, two-faced system that hires and exploits immigrant, thus lowering wages for ALL workers, and then turns around and uses the same people for political spin just to look good with the masses...
I dont know why its so hard to understand this....if you keep hiring them they will keep coming!!!! Hold the business accountable for breaking the law and you'll have no more problems with "illegal" immigrants.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:43 PM
I am African and my father came here to get a PHD which he was going to go back and use it at his own country..........But when the university found out that a brilliant, gifted, and genius man that he was they decided that they wanted him here so they pretty much offered his whole family plane tickets and whatever he wanted to keep him here..........Its funny how my father who wanted to go home chose to stay in the hopes that he would give us a better life but when he retired he had known throughout the time that his heart was for home and that is Africa.........let me say that you are mistaken to think that people want to live here its not that if they had the opportunities that they had at home you wouldnt see anyone trying to move to America..........I know a lot of people that their intention is to get an education and go home.....its that simple and I think that would there would be alot more people who would do that if they could.......People in Europe fantasize about America but if you asked where they would live they would live they stay in their own country because to them they have the same resources as America.........

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Thu 05/01/08 10:44 PM
Good post. But I would add we need to have a punishment for the illegal immigrants as well.

I do believe most of them are hard working people just trying to improve the quality of life for thier families, but they need to respect our laws if they want to be welcomed.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:46 PM


Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.


I think its ridiculous to tell and label other people as illegals when this country was founded on the context of misrepresentation and to be blunt stealing from the Native Americans who were here in the first place.........Its amazing how people forget or have tunnel vision when it doesnt involve their own ethnicity and culture but to be real this country and the people in it have no true justification to point fingers at people who just as yourself are searching for the so-called American Dream which many of your ancestors did the same and they didnt have to sign no paperwork or have to be claimed as illegals..........This country was founded on freedom and people need to remember that it just doesnt imply the people in this country but the people who come to live and get opportunity from this country...............I pity us all for being so shallow and undeducated...........take care
people come here all the time with student visas, get their education, and go home. I do not understand your post huh

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Thu 05/01/08 10:48 PM



Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.


I think its ridiculous to tell and label other people as illegals when this country was founded on the context of misrepresentation and to be blunt stealing from the Native Americans who were here in the first place.........Its amazing how people forget or have tunnel vision when it doesnt involve their own ethnicity and culture but to be real this country and the people in it have no true justification to point fingers at people who just as yourself are searching for the so-called American Dream which many of your ancestors did the same and they didnt have to sign no paperwork or have to be claimed as illegals..........This country was founded on freedom and people need to remember that it just doesnt imply the people in this country but the people who come to live and get opportunity from this country...............I pity us all for being so shallow and undeducated...........take care
people come here all the time with student visas, get their education, and go home. I do not understand your post huh

I think her post was concise and easy to understand. She makes a good point.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:50 PM

Good post. But I would add we need to have a punishment for the illegal immigrants as well.

I do believe most of them are hard working people just trying to improve the quality of life for thier families, but they need to respect our laws if they want to be welcomed.


and harsher punishments for employers flowerforyou

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Thu 05/01/08 10:52 PM
What part didnt you understand I think I have been very clear........I think that you forget that America has exploited people since it conception and I am showing you how it has manipulated innocent people and has taken their land.........Its that simple and yes people come here with student visas but when Americans especially elite ones find that they are letting some of these students go home and they may be gifted then they offer them a deal and what happens is that it strips the native country of the educated and intelligent people it needs to progress.......am I not clear I can keep breaking it down for you

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Thu 05/01/08 10:55 PM




Why is it is you feel that the laws of this nation are to be upheld, and don't believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay you are considered prejudice? I just want honest forward answers please.


I think its ridiculous to tell and label other people as illegals when this country was founded on the context of misrepresentation and to be blunt stealing from the Native Americans who were here in the first place.........Its amazing how people forget or have tunnel vision when it doesnt involve their own ethnicity and culture but to be real this country and the people in it have no true justification to point fingers at people who just as yourself are searching for the so-called American Dream which many of your ancestors did the same and they didnt have to sign no paperwork or have to be claimed as illegals..........This country was founded on freedom and people need to remember that it just doesnt imply the people in this country but the people who come to live and get opportunity from this country...............I pity us all for being so shallow and undeducated...........take care
people come here all the time with student visas, get their education, and go home. I do not understand your post huh

I think her post was concise and easy to understand. She makes a good point.


I appreciate Tanskity's points about the founding of the colonies. I havn't forgotten the crimes committed againts the 1st natives. But we are Nation with laws of citizenship & I think anyone who wants to come here should start by showing they are willing to obey those laws & be responsable residents.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:56 PM
Oh Tanskity, I just noticed you are new toposting here. Welcomeflowerforyou

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Thu 05/01/08 11:00 PM
Thank you littleredhen............