Topic: Sensitive people please stay out
Dragoness's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:38 AM


The immigration laws are on the books for a reason and I believe the laws should be followed. Our current overwhelmed issue is due to people here hiring illegals. It is illegal to do so so we should lay the blame where it belongs, on us for hiring them. It is advantageous for the employers to hire someone they do not have to pay taxes on nor get insurance for plus being able to pay them whatever they want.

It is a new slave labor force and these employers should be stopped. Bringing people to a country where they have no legal rights and exploiting them should be considered a serious crime. We have to go to the source of the problem first before we can address the other problems. Hiring them is what brings them here.

All of the other problems with the brunt to social programs, mostly private, is the symtom to the original problem that we hire them, the problems with criminal activity is due to the original problem that we hire them, etc... It all comes down to the slave labor force being utilized here.

Whatever else needs to be done, whether it be make them legal so they can be participating part of the system here plus giving them the rights of all humans here or making them suffer a punishment time frame or fines and then making them legal, whatever besides nazi style roundups of humans in this country then we need to do it posthaste and be done. But if we do not stop the hiring force that makes them come here it will all be for not.
rewarding people from breaking the laws of this country is not an option. They are here illegaly, and need to go..period. They should also be fingerprinted so that they never apply for legal immigration back into this country. I agree, make the employers responsible to the point of putting htem in jail if need be. There will be no need to round them up, for once they cannot be employed anywhere, they will just leave


Punishment can be whatever it needs to be, if they are good hardworking folks, I see no problem at all with making them suffer a punishment period and legalizing them after that. I don't believe the punishment for us hiring them here should be so harsh on them, do you? They are already here and if they are working and abiding by all the other laws of the land they are a good addition to our country and I am proud to have them here.

Winx's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:39 AM



I dont think you are sorry.flowerforyou
Just beautiful....bigsmile


blushing

But...I am sorry if I am wrong.


Being able to express that humility is beauty!flowerforyou


flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:40 AM



The immigration laws are on the books for a reason and I believe the laws should be followed. Our current overwhelmed issue is due to people here hiring illegals. It is illegal to do so so we should lay the blame where it belongs, on us for hiring them. It is advantageous for the employers to hire someone they do not have to pay taxes on nor get insurance for plus being able to pay them whatever they want.

It is a new slave labor force and these employers should be stopped. Bringing people to a country where they have no legal rights and exploiting them should be considered a serious crime. We have to go to the source of the problem first before we can address the other problems. Hiring them is what brings them here.

All of the other problems with the brunt to social programs, mostly private, is the symtom to the original problem that we hire them, the problems with criminal activity is due to the original problem that we hire them, etc... It all comes down to the slave labor force being utilized here.

Whatever else needs to be done, whether it be make them legal so they can be participating part of the system here plus giving them the rights of all humans here or making them suffer a punishment time frame or fines and then making them legal, whatever besides nazi style roundups of humans in this country then we need to do it posthaste and be done. But if we do not stop the hiring force that makes them come here it will all be for not.
rewarding people from breaking the laws of this country is not an option. They are here illegaly, and need to go..period. They should also be fingerprinted so that they never apply for legal immigration back into this country. I agree, make the employers responsible to the point of putting htem in jail if need be. There will be no need to round them up, for once they cannot be employed anywhere, they will just leave


Punishment can be whatever it needs to be, if they are good hardworking folks, I see no problem at all with making them suffer a punishment period and legalizing them after that. I don't believe the punishment for us hiring them here should be so harsh on them, do you? They are already here and if they are working and abiding by all the other laws of the land they are a good addition to our country and I am proud to have them here.


Are you quilty then?grumble

buttons's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:42 AM


ill answer ya! not melaugh



Blue boxes are illegal.laugh laugh

Hey babe,flowerforyou
Need a picture? I have a good one of you...laugh laugh

lmao fanta!!!!! uhhh no thanks i dont need one obviously people can remember my picslaugh laugh

buttons's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:43 AM
and ps...... think im more appealing in this one than the one u are talking about!laugh laugh

Dragoness's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:44 AM

Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


Fantaflowerforyou I would not say that I know for sure because I am not investigating people but I have heard employers say that they prefer hiring illegals, they work dam hard, they give no ****, they want to be on the job even on the weekends, they do what you want with no *****in, etc..... So they are out there.

That is the problem.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:45 AM



ill answer ya! not melaugh



Blue boxes are illegal.laugh laugh

Hey babe,flowerforyou
Need a picture? I have a good one of you...laugh laugh

lmao fanta!!!!! uhhh no thanks i dont need one obviously people can remember my picslaugh laugh


laugh laugh laugh
I still have that one and I get asked a lot where I got these pics.laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 05/02/08 09:46 AM

Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


I know one. He's been reported & somehow all the illegals dissapear when immigrations shows up. He uses them to do his dirty work & they hide his dirty laundry, so he hides them. He OWNS a small town near here. The workers rent his houses, buy in his store, & the borrow money from him which keeps them indebted to him. He is trying to get a grant for a low income housing project now. mad He passed out questionares about it when I was working for him. I told my manager he should be ashamed to admit he does not pay enough for his employees to afford decent housing.
I quit because he started using a biometric timeclock to try to appease immagrations, but of course CERTIAN EMPLOYEES DID NOT HAVE TO PUNCH IN ON IT!mad


buttons's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:48 AM
laugh laugh u goof fantalaugh laugh :wink: flowerforyou

KELLYLS30's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:49 AM


Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


Fantaflowerforyou I would not say that I know for sure because I am not investigating people but I have heard employers say that they prefer hiring illegals, they work dam hard, they give no ****, they want to be on the job even on the weekends, they do what you want with no *****in, etc..... So they are out there.

That is the problem.


why are there even jobs for them to come to????? because some americans wont get off their arses and do that kind of work. so the illegals, and some legal immigrants are happy to do that work.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:52 AM



Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


Fantaflowerforyou I would not say that I know for sure because I am not investigating people but I have heard employers say that they prefer hiring illegals, they work dam hard, they give no ****, they want to be on the job even on the weekends, they do what you want with no *****in, etc..... So they are out there.

That is the problem.


why are there even jobs for them to come to????? because some americans wont get off their arses and do that kind of work. so the illegals, and some legal immigrants are happy to do that work.


Exactly. There are still good hardworking Americans here but it is becoming a dying breed. Plus the pay is not enough for Americans

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Fri 05/02/08 09:55 AM



Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


Fantaflowerforyou I would not say that I know for sure because I am not investigating people but I have heard employers say that they prefer hiring illegals, they work dam hard, they give no ****, they want to be on the job even on the weekends, they do what you want with no *****in, etc..... So they are out there.

That is the problem.


why are there even jobs for them to come to????? because some americans wont get off their arses and do that kind of work. so the illegals, and some legal immigrants are happy to do that work.


I have baled hay, cooked & packaged cheese side by side with immigrants & although none of them ever told me they were illegal they all told me of others that were. Every once in a while someone would dissapear & I would ask where they were. Once I was told "oh he got caught on purpose so he could go home & see his family, but he will be back" it was explained to me that they can get a ride back into the states after they get A FREE BUS RIDE HOME by getting caught.

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Fri 05/02/08 10:01 AM




Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


Fantaflowerforyou I would not say that I know for sure because I am not investigating people but I have heard employers say that they prefer hiring illegals, they work dam hard, they give no ****, they want to be on the job even on the weekends, they do what you want with no *****in, etc..... So they are out there.

That is the problem.

ohwell I am a dying breed? Is that why I can't find a mate?
why are there even jobs for them to come to????? because some americans wont get off their arses and do that kind of work. so the illegals, and some legal immigrants are happy to do that work.


Exactly. There are still good hardworking Americans here but it is becoming a dying breed. Plus the pay is not enough for Americans

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Fri 05/02/08 10:02 AM
I am a dying breed? is that why I can't find a mate?ohwell

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/02/08 10:02 AM


Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


I know one. He's been reported & somehow all the illegals dissapear when immigrations shows up. He uses them to do his dirty work & they hide his dirty laundry, so he hides them. He OWNS a small town near here. The workers rent his houses, buy in his store, & the borrow money from him which keeps them indebted to him. He is trying to get a grant for a low income housing project now. mad He passed out questionares about it when I was working for him. I told my manager he should be ashamed to admit he does not pay enough for his employees to afford decent housing.
I quit because he started using a biometric timeclock to try to appease immagrations, but of course CERTIAN EMPLOYEES DID NOT HAVE TO PUNCH IN ON IT!mad




I report them all the time, but considering the employers local political contributions nothing is ever done. Then the bleeding hearts take up the cause and scream racism.

Ive worked with illegals dragoness and they dont work that hard. They are just cheap labor, and they dont complain because they are afraid of being turned in, the quality of their work is very shoddy as well.
Make them legal and they become Americanized like their anchor babies. They then expect equal pay, which causes more illegals to be recruited.

If you gave me one day and 20 men, I could change the cultural landscape here, Just by visiting the flea markets, and the health department.drinker

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Fri 05/02/08 10:05 AM
Fanta I have to say the ones I worked with worked hard.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/02/08 10:05 AM



Let's try it this way.
Who knows someone that employs illegals and remains complacent about it?


Fantaflowerforyou I would not say that I know for sure because I am not investigating people but I have heard employers say that they prefer hiring illegals, they work dam hard, they give no ****, they want to be on the job even on the weekends, they do what you want with no *****in, etc..... So they are out there.

That is the problem.


why are there even jobs for them to come to????? because some americans wont get off their arses and do that kind of work. so the illegals, and some legal immigrants are happy to do that work.


Explain that to the thousands of hard working carpenters and masons that lost their jobs to the illegals.
They were replaced for cheaper labor.

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Fri 05/02/08 10:06 AM
If they are legal, why would they not deserve equal pay?

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/02/08 10:06 AM
Did the price of housing go down?
No, they were replaced for greed...

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Fri 05/02/08 10:08 AM

Did the price of housing go down?
No, they were replaced for greed...


drinker