I know somebody that is illegal. He has been here for over 15 years. He pays taxes. If he stays here until retirement, he will never see Social Security benefits.

Please I want to know what is the right way if we are talking about that then the I think the illegals have the right to be here since it was their state to beging with especially New Mexico, Texas, and Cali........man are we so caught up im me we really forget the rights of others or now we want to hold this so called almighty thing about whats right and wrong and what legal and not when this country not at one millisecond did that ..............its trully hypocritical...........where are your ancestors from and if you can say they trully originated in america then I can give you the benefit of the doubt about illegal immigration......

What part didnt you understand I think I have been very clear........I think that you forget that America has exploited people since it conception and I am showing you how it has manipulated innocent people and has taken their land.........Its that simple and yes people come here with student visas but when Americans especially elite ones find that they are letting some of these students go home and they may be gifted then they offer them a deal and what happens is that it strips the native country of the educated and intelligent people it needs to progress.......am I not clear I can keep breaking it down for you

so please tell me which one I made there is. If there was anything wrong with it, the mods would have deleted it. So please post it here so it can be judged for what it is

Well, for starters, on the other thread you assumed that just because some Hispanics were getting free smoke detectors, they were illegal. The article did not have one sentence claiming that they were illegal.

Then you said that if someone can't keep up with their English, that they should go back from where they came from.

I see some prejudice in those things. If I am wrong, I am sorry.

I did not assume they were illegal from their getting free smoke detectors, it was because of their not having any english skills. A simple call to the fire department confirmed that they do not check their immigration status to receive these items. The truth is if they have been legalized, or n process they have some english skills. Fanta brought up a great point about the free english classes ofered here, even for illegals. It is a matter of respect to your host country that you learn their language if you are to spend any amount of time there. I am sorry you find me hateful for my beliefs, but your own rush to judgement also shows that you are as guilty as I for drawng the conclusion you have. I am labelled something for the desire of having others follow the law of the land. how ironic is that?

I dont think you are sorry.
Just beautiful....

But...I am sorry if I am wrong.

The immigration laws are on the books for a reason and I believe the laws should be followed. Our current overwhelmed issue is due to people here hiring illegals. It is illegal to do so so we should lay the blame where it belongs, on us for hiring them. It is advantageous for the employers to hire someone they do not have to pay taxes on nor get insurance for plus being able to pay them whatever they want.

It is a new slave labor force and these employers should be stopped. Bringing people to a country where they have no legal rights and exploiting them should be considered a serious crime. We have to go to the source of the problem first before we can address the other problems. Hiring them is what brings them here.

All of the other problems with the brunt to social programs, mostly private, is the symtom to the original problem that we hire them, the problems with criminal activity is due to the original problem that we hire them, etc... It all comes down to the slave labor force being utilized here.

Whatever else needs to be done, whether it be make them legal so they can be participating part of the system here plus giving them the rights of all humans here or making them suffer a punishment time frame or fines and then making them legal, whatever besides nazi style roundups of humans in this country then we need to do it posthaste and be done. But if we do not stop the hiring force that makes them come here it will all be for not.

The immigration laws are on the books for a reason and I believe the laws should be followed. Our current overwhelmed issue is due to people here hiring illegals. It is illegal to do so so we should lay the blame where it belongs, on us for hiring them. It is advantageous for the employers to hire someone they do not have to pay taxes on nor get insurance for plus being able to pay them whatever they want.

It is a new slave labor force and these employers should be stopped. Bringing people to a country where they have no legal rights and exploiting them should be considered a serious crime. We have to go to the source of the problem first before we can address the other problems. Hiring them is what brings them here.

All of the other problems with the brunt to social programs, mostly private, is the symtom to the original problem that we hire them, the problems with criminal activity is due to the original problem that we hire them, etc... It all comes down to the slave labor force being utilized here.

Whatever else needs to be done, whether it be make them legal so they can be participating part of the system here plus giving them the rights of all humans here or making them suffer a punishment time frame or fines and then making them legal, whatever besides nazi style roundups of humans in this country then we need to do it posthaste and be done. But if we do not stop the hiring force that makes them come here it will all be for not.

ill answer ya! not me