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I have argued in anoher thread before that welfare should be reconfigured. it is there to help people not support people. welfare is not a job. but the difference is legal vs illegal. it's hard enough trying to support dead beats without adding illegals to try to support as well. welfare needs to change how it is handled. later have completly lost all interest and even the mental ability 2 do ANYTHING 4 themselves,Ur right the system cant go on. And when the checks foodstamps ect. stop, Those people will began stealing, rioting and eventualy starve. |
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where do you get illegal from?????? our taxes pay for things like public schools, roads, maintanence etc
my brother in law works for the texas dept of transportation....taxes pay him to fix signals..help stranded motorists and the list goes on. welfare is not meant to support someone but to help them get on their feet etc. i hope one day you don't need help because if you take assistance to help your family...you would then be a hypocrite. medical aid helps those who can't afford private insurance or like my sister....help her to live and not be in constant pain. her husband insurance for work refuses to cover her for her hereditary blood disease. she is bed ridden and without medicaid...she wouldn't have the meds she needs or treatment. |
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Edited by
sethwyo
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Tue 04/29/08 01:55 AM
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Im sorry 2 upset u.
(in my opinion) people are 2 dependent on the government 4 everything. and what would those people do if the government couldnt help them? When medicare falls apart, what will happen 2 the people who are dependent on it do? Do u know how 2 help them? The people from mexico need the welfar,Healthcare, U want them shut off, But people u know kept on, The people from mexico can go back across an invisible line and die,or live in poverty, But u want others kept alive and in pay checks, The government gives the aid 2 whom in wants, I think people should help themselves, U want the government 2 help one group, but not another, And the 2nd group can do without because u believe the government should not help them. that thinking sounds hypocritical. |
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hen...does it say anything about texas????? winx...lol hun i get ya. but i do know that in public hospitals...if someone is in need of care...they took an oath to treat them. happens with illigal and legals. the tax payers end up paying for teachers and medical treatment i guess is my point Rose, I do know that she had the baby at the hospital and she had no money. |
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I have argued in anoher thread before that welfare should be reconfigured. it is there to help people not support people. welfare is not a job. but the difference is legal vs illegal. it's hard enough trying to support dead beats without adding illegals to try to support as well. welfare needs to change how it is handled. |
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I think in some cases it's acceptable. I don't mind helping out people who need a hand due to special circumstances, but things are way out of control right now.
I could improve my situation so much if I just went out & got pregnant! I'd pay no taxes, get food stamps, free medical care including dental, grants to weatherize my home, energy assistance, & WIC. I know a couple with 3 kids & they have so much more than I do! They won't use birth control, & they get more benifits for each child they have. |
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I think in some cases it's acceptable. I don't mind helping out people who need a hand due to special circumstances, but things are way out of control right now. I could improve my situation so much if I just went out & got pregnant! I'd pay no taxes, get food stamps, free medical care including dental, grants to weatherize my home, energy assistance, & WIC. I know a couple with 3 kids & they have so much more than I do! They won't use birth control, & they get more benifits for each child they have. But what they recieve is still not enough to support a child on. They are still living in poverty. |
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Im sorry 2 upset u. (in my opinion) people are 2 dependent on the government 4 everything. and what would those people do if the government couldnt help them? When medicare falls apart, what will happen 2 the people who are dependent on it do? Do u know how 2 help them? The people from mexico need the welfar,Healthcare, U want them shut off, But people u know kept on, The people from mexico can go back across an invisible line and die,or live in poverty, But u want others kept alive and in pay checks, The government gives the aid 2 whom in wants, I think people should help themselves, U want the government 2 help one group, but not another, And the 2nd group can do without because u believe the government should not help them. that thinking sounds hypocritical. The difference being as has been stated before is Illegal vs. Legal or Citizen vs. Non-Citizen. |
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I think in some cases it's acceptable. I don't mind helping out people who need a hand due to special circumstances, but things are way out of control right now. I could improve my situation so much if I just went out & got pregnant! I'd pay no taxes, get food stamps, free medical care including dental, grants to weatherize my home, energy assistance, & WIC. I know a couple with 3 kids & they have so much more than I do! They won't use birth control, & they get more benifits for each child they have. But what they recieve is still not enough to support a child on. They are still living in poverty. |
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I think in some cases it's acceptable. I don't mind helping out people who need a hand due to special circumstances, but things are way out of control right now. I could improve my situation so much if I just went out & got pregnant! I'd pay no taxes, get food stamps, free medical care including dental, grants to weatherize my home, energy assistance, & WIC. I know a couple with 3 kids & they have so much more than I do! They won't use birth control, & they get more benifits for each child they have. But what they recieve is still not enough to support a child on. They are still living in poverty. They have a boat, 2 cars , a motercycle, a snowmobile, eat out more than I do, smoke... They have far more than I do! |
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They need to stop having kids they can't afford ! I am expecting to hear she is pregnant again any day now, since the youngest is 2 now.
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They need to stop having kids they can't afford ! I am expecting to hear she is pregnant again any day now, since the youngest is 2 now. |
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So why can the government steal from me to support them? Because we keep electing ppl who find it perfectly ok to "spread the wealth". It gets them re-elected more often than not. Then they get their perks and make their connections in case they do get voted out. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Tue 04/29/08 11:25 AM
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I have argued in anoher thread before that welfare should be reconfigured. it is there to help people not support people. welfare is not a job. but the difference is legal vs illegal. it's hard enough trying to support dead beats without adding illegals to try to support as well. welfare needs to change how it is handled. Hopefully none of the anti welfare and social programs people on here ever have a life event that causes them to need to ask for help.   It is not even funny to watch the minds of those who have never had a catastrophic event in their lives and needed the help they paid into work to hate and unhumanize those who have needed the help. I hope none of you see the day, I really do. 
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sorry...just getting here. welfare is to only help people...not for them to live on. the laws need to be changed in each state to keep people from laying around collecting welfare. it should be used only long enough to pick them back up so they can keep going on their own
dragoness...aren't you the one that insisted illegals don't get any welfare????? didn't you just get proved wrong??? sorry i noticed you didn't respond to that |
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I have argued in anoher thread before that welfare should be reconfigured. it is there to help people not support people. welfare is not a job. but the difference is legal vs illegal. it's hard enough trying to support dead beats without adding illegals to try to support as well. welfare needs to change how it is handled. Hopefully none of the anti welfare and social programs people on here ever have a life event that causes them to need to ask for help. It is not even funny to watch the minds of those who have never had a catastrophic event in their lives and needed the help they paid into work to hate and unhumanize those who have needed the help. I hope none of you see the day, I really do. |
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rob...what about in my sister's case? she can't work....she can't get on any private insurance. medicaid is her only hope. i argued with dragoness about the abuse of people. i think that needs to be stopped. you can do what you did...i could too...but there are people who may have gotten laid off because the factory closed and they don't want to live off of welfare but need to support their family in the meantime. welfare should never be used to live on or as a job....it's only to help people. alot of people have paid taxes into it and ...yes they deserve to get support. those who just refuse to work or want to collect money....are wrong. they don't get as much as if they were working but they do get paid for nothing....THAT is wrong no matter how you look at it
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rob...what about in my sister's case? she can't work....she can't get on any private insurance. medicaid is her only hope. i argued with dragoness about the abuse of people. i think that needs to be stopped. you can do what you did...i could too...but there are people who may have gotten laid off because the factory closed and they don't want to live off of welfare but need to support their family in the meantime. welfare should never be used to live on or as a job....it's only to help people. alot of people have paid taxes into it and ...yes they deserve to get support. those who just refuse to work or want to collect money....are wrong. they don't get as much as if they were working but they do get paid for nothing....THAT is wrong no matter how you look at it |
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well in all fairness rob...her husband works and pays taxes (works for the state) and me and the rest of the family are very happy to help those in true need with our taxes.
i personally won't take assistance. i could get medicaid for myself because i have the same thing (just not as bad) i choose not to. she desperately needs it. not to mention...people legal and illegal can go to the hospital for care and not pay....we pay for that as well. i can live the way you did...but others have kids etc and they can't. so i don't mind helping the honest people with my taxes...just not the abusers and they should be stopped |
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well in all fairness rob...her husband works and pays taxes (works for the state) and me and the rest of the family are very happy to help those in true need with our taxes. i personally won't take assistance. i could get medicaid for myself because i have the same thing (just not as bad) i choose not to. she desperately needs it. not to mention...people legal and illegal can go to the hospital for care and not pay....we pay for that as well. i can live the way you did...but others have kids etc and they can't. so i don't mind helping the honest people with my taxes...just not the abusers and they should be stopped |
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