Do you people have a clue who picks your fruits and vegetables? Mostly migrant workers from Central America, some legal and some not. Do you think they get minimum wage? Most of them are paid by volume to get around paying them a living wage, and some forms of food and shelter are sometimes supplied. But for the most part they are doing slave labor. Sometimes they need to pay off what it took for them to get here, and other time these farms deduct for certain things. There are many illegals here being taken advantage if while others are sitting on welfare and not doing a thing but still complaining they want more, or those working meaningless jobs for minimum wage but for some reason think they should be compensated the same as those who are doing skilled jobs, or performing physical labor. Increasing minimum wage only increases the cost of everything while devaluing the worth of the American dollar. The actual value to work performed compared to compensation will always vary widely. The thing is people always have the right to get another job whether for better pay or for less responsibility.

Well maybe we should look at the fact that nearly half of all murders in the United States are committed by black men? Blacks make up about 13% of the US population so about 7% are black males. The thing is most of these murders are of other black men. Between 2011-2013 38.5% arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. About 33% of the prison population is black while the US consist of about 64% white people and they make up 30% of the population. I'm sure some people think that white people can afford great lawyers and that the court system gives them free passes, however this is not the case. There is more white people living in poverty then black people. So somehow these black guys who fight and/or run from the cops and end up dying should be top priority in the black community? Maybe if people had a little more respect for the law and others there would be a lot fewer deaths of black men in general. I feel sorry for the black people who have worked hard to get out of the hood and make a better life for themselves and family and these thugs are still bringing them down. A start would be if you can't take care of yourself you probably can't take care of a kid, or two,or three either. I'm not a racist or a radical, I'm a realist. The problems that need to be solved run much dealer than the police force. Do the right thing for the community and turn in your neighbors, friends, or your son when they are thugs, turning your eye to it will just lead to pain by more. People who get everything for free have no respect for it. They think if people can get welfare, foodshelf, and toys for tots for free then it's also OK to shoplift or loot stores or rob the local convenience or liquor store. Its time to break the cycle, not the police department.

Any normal person they would have been questioned and sent on their way, however Floyd pushed the officer or stumbled into him as he got out of the car. That is assaulting an officer. Just because they hand cuff or detain someone doesn't always mean they are under arrest. Driving under the influence is also a crime, however this call was on a counterfit bill and it was unknown of Floyds drug use when they showed up, these officers were unsure of Floyds medical condition besides what he states thru the process. The two rookies made the initial contact and its not clear what was relayed to the other officers. Floyd falls on the way to the car. Its not clear at this time if this was a way to resist arrest or part of his medical (drug) condition, but he did fight the officers. Its been stated he said he was clostrphobic and having trouble breathing. However I'm not certain how much of this has been proven. There should also be body cam footage and possibly footage from the cop car but that has yet to be seen by the public. When they put Floyd in that position on the ground I assumed he tried to spit on an officer because that is the most common reason for doing so. Floyd relieved himself either voluntarily or involuntarily. Cops don't like when people do that or puke in their car and that could be a factor too. While on the ground Floyd never once said "UNCLE", and anyone with siblings would know to do so. The officers kept him down to wait for the paramedics, there is no proof of the amount of pressure they applied.

Have you read the criminal complaint against Chauvin. CNN 8 notable things criminal complaint is good place to start. Also the Hennepin Co Autopsy. They both state that underlying health conditions and drug use were factors in Floyds death. He was having issues prior to be brought to the ground and resisted arrest. The question is did anything the officers do really lead to his death? Or would have he died no matter what those cops did? Any which way his drug use does have an effect on this case, and had he not resisted he most likely would not of been in arrested in the first place, or had he been arrested and not resisted then he would have never been put to the ground, however there is still a possibility he would of died. Restraining him on the ground may have been the best thing those cops could do. There is nothing that will ever measure the amount of pressure the officers were putting on him. There is nothing saying that these officers could have done ANYTHING to keep Floyd alive.

People were shocked after Columbine but the only thing that's been done since then is Mass Shootings have become commonplace. Its part of Pop Culture. Now its like BTW there has been another mass shooting lets continue with our day. If anything George Floyd should be a say no to drugs campaign. Opioids kill an average of 130 people everyday, George Floyd just happened to be one. Remember the commercial where they crack an egg in the frying pan and say this is your brain on drugs? Now they can show the George Floyd video and say this is you on drugs. And make sure they notice him pissing himself. Rodney King and so many others have always been this one will bring change and it never does. Its time for the black community to start solving their own drug, gang, and thug problems on their own. Throwing money at the problems only makes them worse, the only way to get real results is lots of hard hard work. Its like you can't stop someone from using drugs unless they want to stop using drugs.

I'm not into conspiracy theories but there are some really fishy things for those who are interested. Floyd was spiraling down hill fast, he was out of work, on drugs, thrown out of his apartment and basically living in a homeless shelter. Who calls 911 on a "Fake" $20 bill that apparently turned out to be real? And no police department I know of would send officers out to check it out, they would say come down to the station and fill out a report or take it to a bank we don't have time to deal with that. Then they show up, which trust me that takes a long time especially if its not an emergency. And in that time somehow Floyd is still parked there. How is this possible? And he's got "friends" in the car. Now its possible that someone drugs him with the Fentanyl. Don't believe most of what you see about his family, daughter, and friends that are coming out for the $$$ and 10 seconds of fame as most were not real friends, most family was in Texas, and doesn't sound as he was currently part of his daughters life and owed back child support. Now the cops show n he pushes them or stumbles or something, his "friend" had some kinda excuse. Then going to the cop car he falls again, they get him in the car where different versions of the story if there were struggle or not but Floyd claims to be clostrphobic and have trouble breathing so he can be taken into better camera view. And of coarse their is someone who just happens to be recording this along with 2 security camera's watching. Then he uses the "I can't breathe" like thousands of people dying from corona virus gave and also that guy in NY. Then the ambulance was supposed to be on its way but took longer than it should to show up. And this is all happening during covid19 where our governor has put so many restrictions in place that the officers aren't even allowed to do mouth to mouth recesitation on somebody. All this while 2 bumbling idiots are getting ready to fight for the presidency of the once United States of America and they know Biden is such a weak candidate that he needs any thing he can get to win being that Murder Hornets and Corona Virus weren't enough to give him an advantage. That's just my short list of things that may have been a little fishy or phishy for those who enjoy a spin. I figure everyone else has concluded what they think they know is fact, and the people are clearly easily brainwashed so I might as well throw this stuff out there as well.

Pretty sure that's what must of happened in Minneapolis after the incident cuz they sure didn't do a thing to stop any of the riots, looting, or burning. Everything is caught on video but nothing has been said about going after anyone. I think the should post images of each and every person and offer a bounty for their capture. The thing is Minneapolis police have a great compensation package, after only 3 or 4 days on the job you get 40 yrs free room and board at a local prison. I call the protests "blizzards" now ( because all the snowflakes). The majority of these people are just jumping on the bandwagon with no clue what it is really about or what to do about it. George Floyd has become pop culture now. If black people really want change they need to start by changing themselves, and they actually have to want to change. Blacks are 100 times more likely to be shot or killed by a black man then a white person. Just by saying "the black community" or a black neighborhood they are asking to be separated. We tried the separate but equal and that didn't work. We could of put them on reservations like the Indians but we didn't (that was a different time people). It took thousands of years for white people to become "white". When was the last time you heard an Irishman shot a German while two Italians stood and watched. It wasn't all that long ago when every nationality was marked, generally the lighter the skin the higher up the ladder that nationality was. Now we are just "whites" or "Americans" but many black people don't want to conform to that even thou their are many that already have. A lot of it starts as youth and the thug, gangbanger attitude, the pop culture or stereo type that many of the youth get trapped into. Drug, theft, destruction, and lack of respect. There are many good jobs available for young black men or anyone for that matter but it takes 4 thing to keep that job. 1- show up on time. 2- show up everyday 3- do your work while you are at work. 4- act professional. Many people can only accomplish one or two of these things. That is not acceptable, these are easy things to do and millions of people mange to do them everyday. I have seen young black men working, I know it can be done. Just this week I seen some flagging traffic during road construction, good paying job with benefits. Giving people handout does nothing for them long term, people will never show respect for anything unless they have to work for it. Slavery was ages ago quit using that as an excuse, the civil war was fought mostly by white people in which many died to gain your freedom. Start showing some respect to white people and perhaps you will get some in return. They have affermitive action, black college funds, even black awards shows. Blacks get all these things plus are able to get all the things whites do, so quit the whining and do something about it. The "Whites only" country clubs and what not have all been dismantled or opened to all. How about the blacks start dismantling their blacks only clubs too? We are all into this together but the blacks still want their "Blackness".

It is not a fact that he died from excessive force, that is an opinion that many people have, but not a fact. Fentanyl is 80 to 200 times stronger than morphine, as little as 3ng/ml has been known to kill some people. Floyd had 3 1/2 times that amount in his system along with meth and thc, he also had preexisting heart condition. All that plus the rage and stress of being arrested could easily cause heart failure. One of the cops had been on the police department for 3 days. Another one had been on the force for 4 days. If they would have used a stun gun he would have died, if they would have pepper sprayed him he would have died. Chauvin kept him detained til the ambulance arrived, maybe we should start putting everyone down the line in jail for there actions. The ambulance should have arrived sooner. When I take my daughters cat to the vet 3 grown people can't even hold a 10 lb cat with no front claws down, their solution is to sidate it. Now you take a 6'-6" 250 lb man that is in rage and on drugs and try to control him. Its easy to say now the cops made some bad decisions as all humans do from time to time, but at the time in that situation they made the choice that thought they had too. What would have become of it if Floyd would not have been stopped and slammed his car into a family killing them because he was HIGH?
Search " Mannie Ellis is George Floyd". Its almost identical case in Tacoma Washington where black man being detained by 4 police dies. Its just not caught on video. Mannie was also high and died of heart failure. Whenever someone on drugs dies while an officer is present they always assume the cop has some kinda special power to save a life. The biggest problem is people see things in black and white, and even describing something using color assumes that there is a difference in their human condition. Assuming guilt, intent, or that someone is racist base on their skin color is the exact definition of racism.

Does this mean Mingle can not pull any of our posts down anymore? Sorry, just thought I'd throw that in there

Alta Mira>fentanyl>risks-fentanyl

Keep in mind that George Floyd is a felon freaking out about going back to prison along with a fentanyl overdose. This description of an overdose matches step by step the decline of George Floyd and the coroners reports from both parties. As much as I would love to see the people running the government instead of the government running the people I truly believe that the public got this one wrong and the government has folded to the peoples wants. Its far to deep to be fixed now but the truth must be known.

Thanx PSX, there is plenty of sources for the autopsy out there that can easily found. I would like to see the official police incident report but can not find that one. Much of these videos are clips of what they want you to know and not the facts that people should be seeing. I would also like to know who the man and women are that were in the car and got out upon the initial confrontation. I'm not a journalist, and neither are the majority of people on here. I do not expect to see a link to every post as many of these are just propaganda anyway. The forum is more of an oversight of different people from all over with different thought and views, and that's what makes it interesting. If people want to see the fake news they are more than welcome to watch their favorite news network or whatever MSM outlet they prefer.

Hey Blondey, I never do links and I try not to respond personally to others. My computing skills are not that great when it comes to moving things from one spot to another. Unfortunately at this point I can not find where I saw each article or video and Google is now flooded with nonsense about George Floyd. When the video first surfaced and uncensored Floyd clearly pushes or falls into the officer as he gets out of the car. They then cuff him and sit him on the sidewalk. Then as they lead him to the car he falls down, at the time not sure if this was intentional to throw the cops off or if he is having some kind of issue. They then go to him on the ground with the officers restraining him until he is limp. Another video shows them pulling him from back seat. The officer statement after the incident states he was clostrphobic while in the back seat and having difficulty breathing so they take him out to the ground. While restraining him one officer says " I think he's suffering from proxidum or whatever" and he should be on his side. The coroner's report I was referring too came from the independent report not the Hennepin co. report which also included the cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual.
Both saying he had fentanyl in his system.

Fentanyl at any level in the body can cause death, just ask Prince, it can cause breathing problems and heart attacks. The restraint was at the back of the neck, not the front, and he was still able to talk, so maybe it some what contributed to his shortness of breath I highly doubt a healthy human couldn't survive that. To all the doubters out there take a belt and wrap it around your neck til you can't breathe, make sure your are taking video of this, after 2 minutes try saying "I can't breathe". If you do this right I'm willing to bet 95% will not be able to talk at all. Its easy for people to judge these cops after the fact, there was no advantage to them to let Floyd die, they did what they thought was necessary at the time and now they have to live with their decisions the rest of their life. People are forced to make these types of decisions all the time, but when was the last time you seen a Doctor go to prison for making a bad decision?

Your so right when you say he didn't deserve to die like that, he shouldn't have been on drugs, and he should have obeyed the police's orders and the whole world would be a much better place. His brother said they were a peaceful god fearing family, I wonder how peaceful that armed robbery was he committed was?

The Minneapolis police department is not racist, in fact a couple years ago they even put Popeye chicken cups and 40 oz malt beer cans on their Christmas tree to honor black people. However I I do not have a lot of faith in them been they couldn't even keep their police department from being burnt down, but in their defence they were 4 officers missing at the time!

Surprise, surprise the autopsy showed fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine in this felon that many are calling a hero, along with hypertensive heart disease. The black folks really need to find some new hero's besides OJ, Bill Cosby, Tupac, and Rodney King. I know many people including many politicians that would like nothing more than to see all 4 officers drug thru the streets and lynched with out due process, and at this point it is far too late to ever get the truth. However the initial report of the cops included Floyd stumbling and the reason they took him from the back of the car to the ground was because he was having trouble breathing. The officers laid him on his side and restrained him thinking this was in the best interest of everybody's safety including Floyd's, clearly the ambulance was on its way as it arrived shortly after they did this. These cops have some medical training but in no way are they professionals or able to know what to do in every situation. Floyd was acting paranoid and clearly the fentanyl, meth, and problems breathing could have been the only factors that caused his death. There is no proof that the restraint is what actually killed him but in this curupt world we live we will never know. BLM and the Democrats have far too much to gain to ever have the truth known!

George Flyod and his family don't deserve any respect whatsoever. If people commit crimes and assault officers they run the risk of being killed. If he would have obeyed the police none of this would have happened. That means building being destroyed, stores being looted, and understand there was people in many of those stores while they were being looted. The cost of all the law enforcement and everything that goes with it, and the closure of many businesses. What gives these protesters the right to gather while there are still restrictions in place for covid19 such as no gatherings of more than 10 people. How many people know what really happened? Most all of this has been propaganda set up by the media to fuel political views.

George Floyd was a Thug, he spent time in prison for armed robbery, he resisted arrest numerous times before they took him to the ground. Did the cop over do it? Yes. Did Floyd deserve to die? No. But this was never a black and white situation for all you racists out there trying to find anything they can to make an issue out of. This is authority verses Thug situation, that cop didn't care what color Floyd was. So how do people respond to this? Well why not go out and steal from some hard working people and burn some buildings to the ground in our neighborhood all while the cops stand by and watch without doing anything. I hope all you THUG SUPPORTERS out there are proud of yourselves, well us hard working tax payers pay for all your wrong doings. So many laws have been broken by the thugs and thug supporter but very few have been arrested even though it would be like shooting fish in a barrel to do so, where is justice when it is really needed?

If someone has furin their cleavage they should probably trim it or wax it, not sure why that has anything to do with covid. The Dr. always says its a virus let it take its coarse, and that's what we should do. It is natures way of taking out the weak, that happens to be old and sick people. Even most of the old people dying have an underlying medical condition. We have been due to have a pandemic for awhile now, what scares me most are the look downs and social distancing going to become a regular part of life every time there is a new strain of Corona, influenza, or any other out break? It will take time for our immune systems to adjust, but eventually they will.

Corona is SARS if you remember anything about that going around, its not a new virus its just this strain is hitting hard. Influenza changes every year and 20,000 to 50,000 people in the United States die due to complications to that even with the flu shot that has been developed. I suppose its possible something from outer space is trying to mess with the world, but I don't think humans are purposely doing this. One aspect that hasn't been covered is the number of people that will die because the restrictions on hospitals and clinics making it difficult for people to get needed medical attention. Its possible more people will die as a result of not getting medical attention then will die from the Corona Virus.

And the Pilgrims purposely came over to America to get all the Indians sick and wipe them out so they could take over the land, ya right. There have been many pandemics thru time, this one really isn't even that bad compared to most. Would you rather go to Africa and get Ebola or stay here and get Corona? Why do you think they plug kids full of vaccinations? We've been past due for something like this and 10 years ago it wouldn't have hit nearly as hard if even at all here because its only recently that people have been allowed to come and go freely from China. When was the last time you heard about bird flu? Or swine flu? This will pass in time and people will once again forget about it. The majority of people that die probably wouldn't last more than a couple more years anyways, just natures way of cleaning house, if it were a conspiracy they would have done a much better job implanting it. Trumps new slogan for his 2020 campaign is Make America great again again.