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Fri 01/16/09 06:11 PM

Mental Illness is usually caused by mental illness. If you are schizophrenic, then you need to be going to therapy and on medications. It's not a demon any more than having to wear glasses is a demon. I'm not saying that prayer wouldn't help, but it's not a demon. I would question the reasoning of anyone who claimed that mental illness was caused by demons. There are plenty of illnesses caused by bacteria and viruses. There are auto-immune diseases. We know that some mental illnesses are caused by hormonal imbalances. Some are caused by brain damage and degeneration. Schizophrenia generally starts in the 20's and appears to be genetically linked as it can run in families. There is no reason to think that schizophrenia is anything other than a mental illness for which one can have a genetic propensity to suffer from.


Yes, I agree. Our brains are incredibly complex and need proper nutrition to function correctly. Also, toxins can start to build up due to our horrible American diets. Detoxification and nutrition are the keys.

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Fri 01/16/09 06:00 PM


From Lynann's article:

"The St Andrews University lecturer examined biblical texts and archaeological finds, including human remains, and came to the conclusion those living in the promised land did not have a balanced diet."

"There was a notable shortage of meat and vegetables, he said, as well as a lack of vitamins and minerals".

"In reality, it was not a balanced diet."

"The tests pointed to cases of anemia caused by a lack of iron. Sufferers of the condition lack enough iron to keep their red blood cells working properly."

"Pregnant women and children would have been especially vulnerable to malnutrition with consequences for the rest of their lives."

"It provided the necessary calories, but was lacking in certain key vitamins and minerals."







Lets see...Only Israelites lived in the promice land.. Must of had a wall all around the whole country to keep everyone out.

Thats the only conclusion thats possible for him to know these were the chosen people.. Interesting how we look at things..Shalom...Miles


What a bunch of hogwash! Norsly is getting upset!mad
These monsters probably see how popular these books are getting and are trying to discredit them. The FDA probably paid this moron of a scientist to do some fake research for them. That's how this stuff works.

Shortage of meat!laugh laugh laugh
What did the temple service revolve around! Slaughtering animals - every day - and many more on feast days!! There was tons of meat! What were all the shepherds tending?

Anyone who falls for this type of crud is under mind control. Case closed.

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Fri 01/16/09 03:13 PM

Norslyman, stop, your making me dizzy.

Why don't you post a paragraph of two, if short, then put the link to the rest of the content, so we aren't scrolling endlessly to get to the next poster in case one isn't interested in the content your posting...

Hell I can't even remember what the orginal topic was anymore.. ugh!


Good suggestion, I'm still learning the "art" of blogging. And where are some of these people getting these imported smileys?

Isn't anybody going to comment on any of the content in these articles? Or about movies or TV shows they've recently seen with hidden messages? Speculation on who else in Hollywood is under mind control? Madonna's circle of friends? Who else in politics? Why did Bill O'Reilly write a book with teen crack-addicts, sex, and a bear of all things? The foot tapping senator busted in the Mpls airport (hurray for MN)!

These are the kinds of comments I'd like to see.

I must admit, my brain WAS a little scattered after watching "Butterfly Effect". And that was with commercial breaks.

Don't you guys watch movies? frown

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Fri 01/16/09 03:04 PM
Enoch is VERY important. The book of Enoch should have been included, but was kept out by certain people. I highly recommend you read it. He condemns the fallen angels, who are coming back again (as in the days of Noah), witness the increased UFO activity.



THE FALL OF THE ANGELS - THE DESCENDANTS OF CAIN - THE LEGENDS OF THE JEWS - LOUIS GINZBERG

This is the legend of: Shemhazai, Jared, daughters of men, sons of god, angels, mount hermon, giants, Azazel, Armaros, Kawabel, Ezekeel, Arakiel, Samsaweel, Seriel, Enoch and the Watchers.

Volume I

[56] The depravity of mankind, which began to show itself in the time of Enoch, had increased monstrously in the time of his grandson Jared, by reason of the fallen angels. When the angels saw the beautiful, attractive daughters of men, they lusted after them, and spoke: "We will choose wives for ourselves only from among the daughters of men, and beget children with them."

Their chief Shemhazai said, "I fear me, ye will not put this plan of yours into execution,

and I alone shall have to suffer the consequences of a great sin."

Then they answered him, and said: "We will all swear an oath, and we will bind ourselves, separately and together, not to abandon the plan, but to carry it through to the end."

Two hundred angels descended to the summit of Mount Hermon, which owes its name to this very occurrence, because they bound themselves there to fulfil their purpose, on the penalty of Herem, anathema.

Under the leadership of twenty captains they defiled themselves with the daughters of men,

unto whom they taught charms, conjuring formulas, how to cut roots, and the efficacy of plants. The issue from these mixed marriages was a race of giants, three thousand ells tall,

who consumed the possessions of men. When all had vanished, and they could obtain nothing more from them,

the giants turned against men and devoured many of them, and the remnant of men began to trespass against the birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, eating their flesh and drinking their blood.

Then the earth complained about the impious evil-doers. But the fallen angels continued to corrupt mankind.

Azazel taught men how to make slaughtering knives, arms, shields, and coats of mail.

He showed them metals and how to work them, and armlets and all sorts of trinkets, and the use of rouge for the eyes, and how to beautify the eyelids, and how to ornament themselves with the rarest and most precious jewels and all sorts of paints.

See The Watchers from The Book of Enoch for the music connection.

The chief of the fallen angels,

Shemhazai, instructed them in exorcisms and how to cut roots;

Armaros taught them how to raise spells;

Barakel, divination from the stars;

Kawkabel, astrology;

Ezekeel, augury from the clouds;

Arakiel, the signs of the earth;

Samsaweel, the signs of the sun; and

Seriel, the signs of the moon.

[57] While all these abominations defiled the earth, the pious Enoch lived in a secret place. None among men knew his abode, or what had become of him, for he was sojourning with the angel watchers and holy ones. Once he heard the call addressed to him:

"Enoch, thou scribe of justice, go unto the watchers of the heavens, who have left the high heavens, the eternal place of holiness, defiling themselves with women, doing as men do, taking wives unto themselves, and casting themselves into the arms of destruction upon earth.

Go and proclaim unto them that they shall find neither peace nor pardon.

For every time they take joy in their offspring, they shall see the violent death of their sons, and sigh over the ruin of their children. They will pray and supplicate evermore, but never shall they attain to mercy or peace."

Enoch repaired to Azazel and the other fallen angels, to announce the doom uttered against them. They all were filled with fear. Trembling seized upon them, and they implored Enoch to set up a petition for them and read it to the Lord of heaven, for they could not speak with God as aforetime, nor even raise their eyes heavenward, for shame on account of their sins. Enoch granted their request, and in a vision he was vouchsafed the answer which he was to carry back to the angels.

It appeared to Enoch that he was wafted into heaven upon clouds, and was set down before the throne of God.

God spake: "Go forth and say to the watchers of heaven who have sent thee hither to intercede for them: Verily,

it is you who ought to plead in behalf of men, not men in behalf of you.

Why did ye forsake the high, holy, and eternal heavens, to pollute yourselves with the daughters of men, taking wives unto yourselves, doing like the races of the earth, and begetting giant sons?

Giants begotten by flesh and spirits will be called evil spirits on earth, and on the earth will be their dwelling-place.

Evil spirits proceed from their bodies, because they are created from above, and from the holy watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they will be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits they will be named.

And the spirits of heaven have their dwelling in heaven, but the spirits of the earth, which were born upon the earth, have their dwelling on the earth.

And the spirits of the giants will devour, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and cause destruction on the earth, and work affliction. They will take no kind of food, nor will they thirst, and they will be invisible.

And these spirits will rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them. Since the days of murder and destruction and the death of the giants, when the spirits went forth from the soul of their flesh, in order to destroy without incurring judgment--thus will they destroy until the day when the great consummation of the great world be consummated.

And now as to the watchers who have sent thee to intercede for them, who had been aforetime in heaven, say to them: You have been in heaven, and though the hidden things had not yet been revealed to you, you know worthless mysteries, and in the hardness of your hearts you have recounted these to the women, and through these mysteries women and men work much evil on earth. Say to them therefore: You have no peace!"


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Fri 01/16/09 10:47 AM
You know Abra, I've heard it said that the religion closest to the bible is Buddism, and I would agree. They teach that all suffering comes from desire. Take away the desire, you take away suffering. I like the four doctrines or whatever they are.

I wonder if you're not confusing Jewish law with Talmudic Jewish law, which came from Babylon, not the bible.

I never did apologize to you for attacking you when I first joined. Was very "unchristian" of me. You and Krimsa ask very good questions and make us actually think. It is a good work out.:smile:

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Fri 01/16/09 10:00 AM
I'd like to thank them for taming cats because I'm a big cat lover.

I have to confess, I've been pondering an earlier argument about Ishmael, it's been bothering me. I can't believe you didn't bring this up, I was shaking in my boots thinking "I know what she's going to say next." I didn't have an answer.

But if Ishmael was "irrelavent" because he was born of a handmaid. Then what of Jacobs sons? Half of them were born of handmaids. That would make half of the 12 tribes of Israel "irrelevant".

I'm going to ponder this some more and see what else you come up with.

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Fri 01/16/09 09:38 AM





Yes, you should be okay to go to church on your meds.flowerforyou

Are the meds giving you a flat affect or any problems?


Thanks, yeah I can tell you know about the sz.

I have flat affect yes, but also lack of emotion or ability to really
engage and feel connected, sometimes poverty of speech.

I'd like the church attendance again for fellowship and worship and the teachings, I am very isolated.

As far as a personal relationship with the savior, I'm not sure if I'm able to do that with thinking I'm talking to myself in delusions and voices again.

I can try, though. It scares me.




I don't know why it would scare you? Yashua will "never leave you or forsake you". He is always there. It is just a matter of becoming aware of his presence. You don't need to go to church for that. Just sit quietly with your bible and read. Pick one verse to meditate on for a while. Find a good devotional book with prayers specifically for mental illness.

Yes, working out will be excellent. Getting out of the house and just walking and getting fresh air. Watch your diet. Stay away from sugar and diet anything (aspartame, nutrisweet BAD). Ever try Apple Cider Vinegar? Srong taste, but add to juice. Braggs also has Amino Acids which is usually right next to the Vinegar, spray on your food. Both are cheap. Also, B vitamins to feed your brain. Ever hear of Royal Jelly - packed with B vitamins.

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Thu 01/15/09 06:01 PM
This is like having a massacre take place outside your door and calling the police to report a lost cat. They are guilty of MUCH bigger crimes than this.mad

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Thu 01/15/09 05:58 PM
Here is a TRULY BIZZARE story.frown
Sex slaves in the White House?
Are they just flaunting this stuff in our face?:tongue:

I looked up Jeff Gannons gay porn site. As the Three Amigo's would say "It's real, this is real."

Warning. It's pretty x-rated.


Johnny Gosch, Jeff Gannon, Hunter Thompson and the
Unraveling of a Troubling Tale

By Tim Schmitt
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml
April 6, 2005

Forward courtesy of Tim White <phantom469366@yahoo.com>

Cover Story: Death of a Conspiracy
Noreen Gosch sits in a booth at the West Des Moines Village Inn, nursing a cup of coffee and managing, despite her larger-than-life personality, to blend into the surroundings and keep a low profile in the almost empty restaurant. She is open with her thoughts and willing to share what information she can, yet she remains guarded - cautious and thoughtful in a manner often mistaken as cold and standoffish. She thinks carefully as she speaks about her son, Johnny, and the players in a bizarre conspiracy surrounding his disappearance in 1982 that continues to evolve, and may finally be on the verge of breaking down.

"Just because you don't want to believe something is true," says Noreen slowly, "that doesn't mean it's not true."

It's a statement that bears repeating:

"Just because you don't want to believe something is true, that doesn't mean it's not true."

Anyone who has heard the theories surrounding Johnny Gosch's disappearance on Sept. 5, 1982 (and who in Iowa has not?), knows they are difficult to accept. If there are Satanic pedophiles working in the top levels of government and law enforcement selling kids on the black market and forcing them into prostitution, pornography, extortion and things far worse, it's easier as a human being to simply believe that such things could not be true.

But they could be.

And Noreen knows this all too well. She didn't want to believe her child was kidnapped, sexually abused, tortured, brainwashed and sold into slavery, but she accepts this now as an indisputable truth. And she is not alone.

Many others accept the existence of a vast network of high-profile people - powerful politicians, business leaders, law enforcement and government agents - who exist in a subculture of degenerates who participate in child pornography, snuff films, drugs, devil worship, brainwashing and kidnapping. And Noreen believes that Johnny (and hundreds of other children like him) was forced into this life of depravity by those who kidnapped him.

But Johnny's story has been told thousands of times. It's been analyzed, disputed and ridiculed just as frequently, and we have neither the time and space, nor the inclination to repeat it here in full. As, tragic as it may be, it's old news. Nothing major has happened in the case for some time, and the alleged players in the story have been silent, absent or simply missing for years.

Until recently.

In the past few months there's been a flurry of activity among the people once related to his case and the conspiracy that surrounds it. And in the midst of this commotion, some believe Johnny Gosch has been found very much alive.

Recent events began with Jeff Gannon, the right-wing journalist who was found to have gained access to the White House press pool with few credentials and a fake name. The death of Hunter S. Thompson followed shortly after. The arrest of two men, seemingly unrelated, in Nebraska and Virginia within days of the Gannon story and Thompson's death also play a role in the story.

And all these events, some suggest, are related to the 12-year-old paperboy kidnapped from West Des Moines 23 years ago.

And if they are right, there is much more to come...

Johnny lives
In late January a conservative journalist in Washington D.C. was found to have gained access to the White House press pool despite using a fake name, and despite the fact that he once worked as a high-priced homosexual escort.

Jeff Gannon was a White House correspondent for Talon News who regularly attended White House press briefings and at least four press conferences with President George W. Bush. On Jan. 26, 2005, Gannon asked a question of the president that was so friendly and factually inaccurate that some of his colleagues began looking into his background.

Talon News, it was learned, is a barely disguised tool of the Republican Party, and Gannon's credentials as a journalist consist solely of a training course at the Leadership Broadcast School of Journalism. After two days of training that cost $50, Gannon was officially a graduate of a journalism school and on his way to the White House press pool.

It was soon discovered that Gannon's real name is Jeff Guckert and that he has also gone by the nickname "Bulldog" when listing himself on the Internet as a homosexual escort and personal trainer charging $200 per hour for his "discreet" services.

Gannon was removed from the White House and resigned from Talon News on Feb. 8 "Gannongate" quickly became the presidential scandal of the hour, though the story faded from public view as politicians and the media eagerly turned their attention to such pressing matters as steroids in baseball and the Terri Schiavo situation.

But before long, Internet bloggers had picked up the story and began to think back to the administration of President Bush's father, which was rocked by a scandal that allegedly involved a high-level official giving private, late-night tours of the White House to teenage, male prostitutes. The New York Times and the Washington Post both wrote about the story and the eventual death of Washington lobbyist Craig Spence, who reportedly arranged the visits. Spence, it has been suggested, was preparing to admit publicly that he was using the teenage boys to blackmail high-powered politicians in the beltway. He committed suicide before he had the opportunity to do so.

With a gay escort gaining access to the White House during a Bush administration while many of the same officials from the '80s are back in power, the question became, "Is there a connection?"

Private investigator Sherman H. Skolnick posted a story about the Gannon debacle on www.rense.com, a site know for its conspiracy theories, and publicly stated on Feb. 19 that Gannon is Johnny Gosch.

Andy Stephenson, a blogger from Seattle familiar with the details of the Johnny Gosch case and the child sex rings in Nebraska detailed in the Book, "The Franklin Cover-Up," began, with a group of other writers and investigators, to ponder the claim. They looked at markings on Gannon's body and compared them to those reported on Johnny Gosch. They considered the lack of personal information about Gannon's early years. They considered that Johnny was alleged to have been used as a gay prostitute for blackmail purposes. They considered that the high-powered people alleged to have kidnapped and brainwashed children as part of the government's Monarch Project and MK-Ultra program, including Johnny, did so to use them in a variety of ways to advance their own agendas. And they contacted Noreen Gosch and discussed the idea with her - the first she'd heard of the theory - and they, too, came to the conclusion that Jeff Gannon is none other than Johnny Gosch.

The Internet has been abuzz with the theory ever since. And, in a way, it makes perfect sense. You've got a kid abducted and brainwashed into doing the bidding of government officials as part of top-secret mind-control programs, so now that he's older why not put him into the White House to soften press briefings to make the president look better? The suggestion from many is that Gannon is a Monarch Program child-turned-adult operative.

Gannon, according to investigators like Skolnick, is involved in high-level espionage and is also an expert on torture. He is said to be an expert penetration agent, using sex to compile negative data on U.S. and foreign governmental officials, and is also believed responsible for the Valerie Plame White House leak that allegedly caused 70 CIA undercover agents to be murdered.

Yet others suggest that Gosch took on the persona of James Gannon/Jeff Guckert and gained White House access with the eventual goal of exposing the people who kidnapped him and put him, and his family, through hell. Gannon is alleged to have a publishing deal with a Russian imprint, which some believe will result in a tell-all book that exposes those who've paid for his "services," as well as the pedophile ring that he, as Gosch, was victimized by after his kidnapping.

"I'm convinced 99 percent that he is Johnny Gosch" says Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI agent who has been working on the Gosch case for more than a decade. "The only way I'd be 100 percent sure is if there was a DNA test or if he admitted it."

He bases his opinion on a confidential source from whom he claims to have videotape testimony that has him identifying Gannon as Gosch.

"My source has told me in the past that he has maintained contact with Johnny Gosch," says Gunderson. "Let's just say he's in a position to know. The kids are all in touch with each other. It's a bond they all share."

The kids he refers to are those forced into the sex slavery rings and the government-sponsored mind-and behavior-control programs. One of those "kids" is a man named Paul Bonacci, who claims to have participated in the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch and says he was forced to be the first person to molest Johnny. Bonacci has long claimed to be part of the vast network of children trained to work for the government and participate in deviant sexual acts to make the blackmail of politicians possible.

In 1999, Bonacci won a $1 million lawsuit against Larry King, the former head of the Franklin Credit Union in Nebraska, whom he claimed forced him into the pedophile ring. The federal judge ruled Bonacci was truthful in his testimony, which included his claim that he was one of several young male prostitutes known to have toured the White House in the 1980s.

Gunderson claims that Bonacci is not his source for the Gannon-is-Gosch claim, but adds that Bonacci informed him a while back that Gosch had changed his appearance. John DeCamp, author of "The Franklin Cover-Up" says Bonacci told him the same thing.

"I do know that Johnny Gosch altered his appearance and the changes I've heard about conform to how Gannon looks now," he says. "Paul told me you could be standing right next to him and not know it's Johnny."

And he says that Gannon has been asked the question, but refuses to answer one way or the other.

"A fellow in New York City went to his door and asked him about his mother in Iowa and he slammed the door on him," he says. "He wouldn't talk about it at all."

A mother's instinct
Noreen Gosch has seen the videotape that Gunderson made with his confidential informant and believes the man is credible.

"Ted sent me a videotape of his interview with his source and he said Gannon is Gosch, and he said it without hesitation and without blinking an eye," recalls Noreen. "And he said he's known it for months."

When the theory was first proposed, Noreen's phone was ringing every 15 minutes with calls from bloggers, investigators, and radio and TV stations, all asking if she would identify Gannon as her son. She has not done so. She's sat with the numerous photos from the Internet and compared them to those of Johnny, herself and John Gosch Sr. looking for similar features.

"I could see some of the similarities that the bloggers were talking about," she says. "I could see in (Gannon) the features that Johnny had. And the last time I saw Paul Bonacci, he told me that Johnny had changed his entire appearance again. That he shaved his head and is going with that look for now."

She says the birthmark on Johnny's chest is very similar to a mark seen on Gannon's chest in at least one photo. And she points out that Gannon has a spot on his right cheek in the same place as Johnny. Sometimes, she's almost convinced. But it's not quite enough and she just can't - or won't - say for sure that Gannon is her son.

"People have asked me why I can't recognize him if I saw I him in 1997, and I tell them a picture from the Internet is a lot different than someone sitting in your kitchen," she says.

Noreen claims that Johnny visited her at her West Des Moines apartment in 1997, but told her he could not come out of hiding because his life and hers would be put in grave danger.

But what about her gut feeling? Her maternal instinct?

"Honestly, it changes," she says. "Sometimes I think, 'oh, yeah, that looks like him,' and other times the jump is too much to think about. When you factor in the facts, it's hard to believe. I've spent a lot of sleepless nights over this. I really wish I could say for sure."

But Noreen is no fool. She knows the risk of saying, one way or the other, if she thinks this is her son. If it is, and he's chosen not to say anything, she understands that he has reasons for his secrecy that are likely life-threatening and her outing him could very well put him at risk. If she were to claim Gannon is Johnny and is proven wrong later, then any amount of credibility she has left would go out the window."Even if he (Gannon) admitted to it, I would still want a DNA test done," she says. "This is so surreal. It's like I'm on the outside looking in. Almost 23 years have passed and we know he's still alive, but to potentially have your loved one found is just unreal. If this would turn out to be Johnny it would be a blessing for everyone to know what happened and to have it all wrapped up."

Subliminal hints
That is unlikely to happen anytime soon. Despite millions of words devoted to the subject on the Web and investigations being conducted by hundreds of Internet detectives, Gannon has not acknowledged the speculation.

Despite this, some say that Gannon has been providing clues to his real identity on his Web page (www.jeffgannon.com), which is still active.

Shortly after the theory was presented, Gannon posted an article titled "Hiding in Plain Sight," and has posted a column entitled "Fear and Loathing in the Press Room," which some suggest is a reference to the recently deceased Hunter S. Thompson, who also was accused of involvement in pedophile, child slavery rings in the 1980s (see below).

Others suggest that his name itself is a clue to his real identity. Both Jeff Gannon and James Guckert share the same initials as Johnny Gosch. Furthermore, shortly after Johnny's disappearance, Noreen made a personal plea to the editor of The Des Moines Register, Johnny's employer. The editor printed her letter in the paper and mocked it by allowing the police department to dissect it. The editor's name was James Gannon.

"I would say that those are subliminal messages," says Gunderson, an attempt on Gannon's part to let slip his identity.

Jim Rothstein, a retired New York Police Detective who spent more than 35 years in the force, much of it investigating child slavery, pedophile rings, agrees that the evidence is strong that Gannon is actually Johnny Gosch.

"To me Gannon looks like Johnny," says Rothstein. "Everything just fits - the profile, the M.O., everything."

Rothstein has been involved as a private investigator on the Gosch case for the past several years, and says he is working to get the final proof needed to determine Gannon's true identity.

"We're working on getting a tail on him and getting a DNA sample to test," he says. "I still can't figure out why no-one knows where he (Gannon) was for 10 years."

There have been some Internet postings that give a timeline of Gannon's life, but according to Rothstein they are based on flimsy information that is not to be trusted.

"Records are easy to create," he says. "Maybe this Guckert kid died and someone took over his identity. If it is not Johnny Gosch, then it's one of the other kids like Johnny Gosch."

Says Noreen: "If all this is true, I don't think he was ready to be exposed just yet."

Hunter and snuff films
The Gannon/Gosch connection was first made public early in the morning on Feb. 20. Later that same day, Hunter S. Thompson was found dead in his home, the victim of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot.

Few people would ever have thought to connect Thompson and Gosch, but those familiar with the tales of child abuse and pedophilia documented in "The Franklin Cover-Up," a book first released in 1994 by former Neb. State Sen. John DeCamp, understand the association.

In his book, DeCamp relates many interviews and discussions with Paul Bonacci, the young man who claims to have been involved with the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch. Bonacci told horrific tales of being forced into sex with adults and other children. In one case he recalls being flown into Nevada with another young boy whom he did not know. They took on another passenger there and headed to a secluded location where Bonacci says he was forced to have sex with the younger boy. The young boy, Bonacci claims in this book, was also forced to have sex with adult males, who then killed the boy with a gunshot to the head. Bonacci says he was then forced to have sex with the corpse.

The passenger they took on in Nevada filmed the entire thing, and Bonacci recalled that his name was Hunter Thompson.

"I think it's kind of strange that Hunter Thompson would commit suicide at this time," says Gunderson. "Several kids told us that he directed snuff films. I think it's a strong possibility that he was murdered and I strongly suspect that it's all connected."

And the speculation on the Internet has been that Thompson was either killed to prevent his coming forward, or that he killed himself because he feared his role as a director of child snuff films would be proven true.

DeCamp also expressed some surprise at the timing of Thompson's death and says he still believes Bonacci's claim is true. Stephenson, the blogger from Seattle who has investigated the Gosch case, is also suspicious.

"I wonder, did he know? In light of Paul's (Bonnaci) testimony regarding the snuff film, I submit he knew quite a bit," he says. "The timing of his death was interesting."

The snuff film that Thompson allegedly made with Paul Bonacci is believed, based on Bonacci's description of the surroundings, to have been filmed at Bohemian Grove, a summer camp of sorts for the rich and powerful. Bohemian Grove is a secluded area outside Sacramento, Calif., where world leaders and dignitaries meet annually for a retreat that involves neo-pagan activities, including mock human sacrifices made before a large Owl statue referred to as "Moloch." While conducting this ritual, which they call "The Cremation of Care," participants are dressed in druid robes and chant and sing before Moloch.

Information on these gatherings has been well known for some time, though video footage has only recently been leaked out of the site. The site is very secure and access is available only to a handful of people worldwide. As a child, Bonacci could never have had access to the site, but he described it accurately, including the large owl statue.

Noreen Gosch says that on one recent evening her Web site, www.johnnygosch.com, had more than 50 hits that came from within a 10-mile radius of Bohemian Grove.

The CIA pedophile
In her book, "Why Johnny Can't Come Home," Noreen Gosch writes about a man who contacted her just six months after Johnny's disappearance claiming he worked with a government agency that was investigating pedophile organizations.

George Paul Bishop (often known just as Paul Bishop) claimed he was a "CIA asset" and arrived in Des Moines in July of 1984 to offer his assistance to the Goschs. Before he left, he provided, through his investigation, a detailed map of the kidnapping scene. Bishop, according to Noreen's book, often called the Gosch home from the Washington D.C. office of Sen. Charles Grassley, with whom Noreen had worked on Johnny's case.

"Many times Paul Bishop would call me from Sen. Grassley's office and, when finished speaking with me, he would hand the phone to one of Grassley's aides who I was familiar with," Noreen recalled in her book, published in 2000. "That convinced me Paul was an accepted visitor on the Hill in Washington."

Based on this, Noreen believed that Bishop was responsible for securing her invitation to testify before Sen. Arlan Specter's Hearing on Organized Crime and its Relationship to Kidnapping at the U.S. Capitol. Bishop, in fact, picked Noreen up from her D.C. hotel and accompanied her to the hearings.

Bishop became close to Noreen, even referring to her as "Mom," but suddenly, in 1985, he disappeared from the scene. The phone number he'd left was no longer valid and no one knew how to contact him. No one had seen or heard from him in almost 20 years, until he was suddenly arrested on Feb. 4 of this year in Virginia, after police allegedly found an explicit video of a 16-year-old boy in his home.

Detectives searched Bishop's home and found the tape after receiving a complaint that he was allowing teenage boys to drink and use drugs on the premises.

Noreen wonders now if Bishop was on the wrong side of Johnny's case all along. Was he involved in the kidnapping and merely running a smokescreen at the time to prevent discovery? Was his recent arrest an effort to keep him quiet about the larger story? A threat?

Or was he honest from the beginning and his recent arrest merely an effort to discredit him before he reappeared and started making noise and threatening to expose the powerful people involved?

Either way, Bishop seemed to know a lot about Johnny's disappearance in 1982, and his sudden eappearance on the scene coinciding with the outing of Jeff Gannon, the death of Thompson and the arrest of another man
involved with the case (below) is too much of a coincidence for some to accept.

"It's very common to set someone up and arrest him to discredit him," says Rothstein.

The photographer
Rusty Nelson claimed that he once turned down an offer of $50,000 from Hunter S. Thompson to help in the production of a snuff film. The offer was allegedly made because Nelson worked closely with Larry King, the central figure in the "Franklin Cover-Up" accused of running a pedophile and child slavery ring. Nelson would often accompany King to elaborate parties where he worked as a photographer, taking photos of high-profile individuals in compromising positions with young boys and girls.

Nelson testified in court that he participated as a photographer, but claims that, though he took compromising photos, he never took any hardcore
pornographic pictures; that he absolutely refused any involvement with child pornography. But he claims that King employed a Nelson look-alike for this purpose in order to compromise both the powerful people in the photos and Nelson himself. Nelson has admitted taking tens of thousands of photos, many of which have been confiscated and either destroyed or permanently sealed to protect those depicted. But many, according to some reports, remain hidden.

Despite his denials, Nelson has served time for his photography work, having been arrested in Oregon years ago with a van full of photos, at least one of which was said to involve a minor engaged in less-than-legal activity. He's been living in Nebraska for some time, providing what information he can to private investigators and trying to put his life back together. Most recently he was working with a friend to open a studio that specializes in wedding
photography.

But two days after Thompson's death, Nelson was rounded up by police and arrested, reportedly for failing to register as a sex offender in a county of
which he was no longer a resident.

John DeCamp bailed Nelson out of jail and says he thinks the arrest was intended as a warning to him and others that they best keep their mouths shut. Others agree.

"The timing is interesting," says Stephenson. "Especially given Thompson's death and Paul Bishop's recent arrest. I would place a suicide watch on both
men.

"I think there's fixin' to be a heap of manure hitting the air circulating device soon," he adds. "I wonder about the timing. I have been wondering why all these people have all of a sudden come out of the woodwork. I wonder if there is a 'purge' going on. I don't think injustice ever leaves the public consciousness. I think there is far more going on here than we know."

So why now? After all this time, why the activity and renewed interest in the Johnny Gosch case and the tales of child abduction, slavery and prostitution in
general. Did the theory that Gannon is actually Johnny Gosch hit too close to home and threaten to expose those with secrets to keep?

One suggestion is that increased media attention has the players in the decades-old scandal getting jumpy and looking to protect themselves.

Nick Bryant, the man who confronted Gannon at his home and asked him about Johnny Gosch, has apparently been working on this story for several years and has been shopping the finished product around for a publisher.

Rothstein says he's been working with Bryant for at least three years, and that Bryant was originally commissioned to do the story for Rolling Stone, which
has since turned the finished piece down. The New York Times and several other outlets have reportedly shown interest in the story recently, as well.

Bryant declined to comment either on the Gannon situation or his involvement in writing a story. But, Rothstein says since Bryant began showing the piece
around, the players involved have once again become active.

"Something is cooking here now," he says. "They'll have to throw someone to the wolves, but there's no telling how high it will go."

Everyone involved in the story acknowledges that it sounds like a wacky conspiracy theory, but the evidence of the conspiracy is too vast, they say, to
simply dismiss it.

"I'm a conspiracy realist, because there is a conspiracy out there," says Gunderson, who says just two weeks ago he was chased through his neighborhood by an unknown man with a gun.

Adds Rothstein: "If two people were involved in kidnapping that kid, then it's a conspiracy. Well, these people don't work alone so it's a conspiracy.
They try to discredit you by calling you a conspiracy theorist. Damn right I'm a conspiracy theorist, because that's what it is."

Still, in the end, this is a story about a young boy stolen from his home and his family. This simple tragedy is often lost in the complicated theories and
conjecture, but it remains the single, undeniable truth in the entire story.

"I hold out hope that we'll be able to have regular communications with him," Noreen says of her son. "We know he's alive, and up until a couple years ago, we knew what he was doing and where. Maybe he could keep in touch with his mom, but moving back to Des Moines to live a life here? Those windows of opportunity have closed. I hear the horrible things people say about me. I can only imagine what they would say about him given the things he's been through.

"Johnny knows I tried, and who's to say it's all over. We don't know yet. If this is it, we're in the final days and this is all going to blow wide open." PB


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Thu 01/15/09 05:29 PM
9-11 message again explode

THAT has been his ENTIRE presidency.

They hate us because of our freedoms?explode

Well, they shouldn't hate us anymore because he's taking them all away.laugh

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Thu 01/15/09 04:37 PM
Edited by norslyman on Thu 01/15/09 04:38 PM
Should have only posted the first half of that one. No, I don't agree with everything in these articles. Interesting stuff though.


Here's more from, you guessed it raven1.net

I know these are long, but this is a good one.

Beware the towers of doom mad


The Purpose Behind The Neighborhood ELF Microwave Towers
Sent To Don Croft By an unidentified friendly source
May 23, 2002

Think grid triangulation. Like the old grid paper, put a dot at each corner. expand the box outward. Each level of panel acts also dimensionally (not like 4th, but in 3d space dimensions, don), or to put it another way, pitch, yaw, up, down, right, left, x, y, intensity, duration, frequency pulse, etc, those kind of dimensions.

The whole damn dumb show was supposed to go down in late 99, but they didn't get people's guns, that big final obstacle to fascism. That's when they hit upon these ELF towers. Tested them in Ventura, Africa, and the Sudan. They had GWEN operational in '92, but it did entire counties and would affect their own people, who have body suits they were (lined with lead-impregnated kevlar- which blocks elf and piggyback freqs.).

So they found out that the little towers, by the tens of thousands, they could literally aim any energy like a gun to a single home, a given range area, and so forth. Big places run by FEMA/NORAD run it all from computers. But they can also go remote, with the proper clearance and hookup. They found out they didn't need to get the guns (that's why the push and schoolyard shootings stopped here; they no longer needed that scare op that worked so well in England, Australia, Germany, ....)

Now...how can you fire a gun or load it, if you are crawling on the ground begging for mercy? If you can imagine the worst abdominable pain there is, then you know how debiliating it is - you simply can't do anything, but lie on the ground and pray for relief [Editor's Note: this assertion has been corroborated by Al Bielek, Stewart Swerdlow, Col. Fletcher Prouty, and even Major Ed Dames. During the 1991 Gulf War, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops spontaneously surrendered without even attempting to fight. It was this very ELF mind control technology which had been applied and rendered them impotent... Ken Adachi].

Then they can clean up entire streets, districts, small towns, enclaves, as needed. They don't need to pulse the whole country at once. Only as they do sweeps would they need to fire the machine up. And it is great for little revolts as they are sure to spring up. You can aim this grid like a net, down to the meter's distance. Got a neighborhood or backwoods community that isn't cow towing the NWO line? Simple, fire up the machine and down they go...as you walk through, kill the ringleaders, disarm the rest, then the lesson is taught to the survivors

The French pioneered this technology in the late 70s from Bell Labs. They created a device for crowd control that looks like a big baseball stadium loudspeaker. It fits into the back of a van. Then they'd open the doors, pointing the van at the crowd. I've seen the device.

It operates on a 5 cycle bass wave, elf. Made everyone drop to their knees with stomach nausea. [Carol felt that frequency as we drove by one of the towers, which was operating above the usual 15% capacity, apparently, on a recent trip]

Your towers are the same thing, but with bi-phase polarity freqs that can induce hallucinations, nausea, herpes outbreaks (every organism has its own cellular freq) or whatever they want you to feel that day...horniness, anger, whatever. http://www.totse.com/en/politics/us_military/gwen.html



Caveat Lector from Nexus magazine Vol. 3, No. 3 April, May 1996

The following document comprises evidence for a lawsuit filed at the US Courthouse in Washington, DC, by John St. Clair Akwei against the National Security Agency, Ft George G. Meade, Maryland (Civil Action 92-0449), and constitutes his knowledge of the NSA's structure, national security activities, proprietary technologies and covert operations to monitor individual citizens.

How The NSA Harasses Thousands Of Law Abiding Americans Daily By The Usage Of Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM)

1. THE NSA'S MISSION AND DOMESTIC INTELLIGENCE OPERATION

- Communications Intelligence (COMINT)

Blanket coverage of all electronic communications in the US and the world to ensure national security. The NSA at Ft Meade, Maryland has had the most advanced computers in the world since the early 1960s. NSA technology is developed and implemented in secret from private corporations, academia and the general public.

- Signals Intelligence (SIGINT)

The Signals Intelligence mission of the NSA has evolved into a program of decoding EMF waves in the environment for wirelessly tapping into computers and tracking persons with the electrical currents in their bodies. Signals Intelligence is based on the fact that everything in the environment with an electric current in it has a magnetic flux around it which gives off EMF waves. The NSA/DoD [Department of Defense] has developed proprietary advanced digital equipment which can remotely analyze all objects whether manmade or organic, that have electrical activity.

- Domestic Intelligence (DOMINT)

The NSA has records on all US citizens. The NSA gathers information on US citizen who might be of interest to any of the over 50,000 NSA agents (HUMINT). These agents are authorized by executive order to spy on anyone. The NSA has a permanent national security anti-terrorist surveillance network in place. This surveillance network is completely disguised and hidden from the public.

Tracking individuals in the US is easily and cost-effectively implemented with the NSA's electronic surveillance network. This network (DOMINT) covers the entire US. involves tens of thousands of NSA personnel, and tracks millions of persons simultaneously. Cost-effective implementation of operations is assured by NSA computer technology designed to minimize operations costs.

NSA personnel serve in quasi-public positions in their communities and run cover business and legitimate businesses that can inform the intelligence community of persons they would want to track. NSA personnel in the community usually have cover identities such as social workers, lawyers and business owners.

- Individual Citizens Occasionally Targeted for Surveillance by Independently Operating NSA Personnel

NSA personnel can control the lives of hundreds of thousands of individuals in the US by using the NSA's domestic intelligence network and cover businesses. The operations independently run by them can sometimes go beyond the bounds of law. Long-term control and sabotage of tens of thousands of unwitting citizens by NSA operatives is likely to happen. NSA DOMINT has the ability to assassinate US citizens covertly or run covert psychological control operations to cause subjects to be diagnosed with ill mental health.

2. NSA'S DOMESTIC ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE NETWORK

As of the early 1960s, the most advanced computers in the world were at the NSA, Ft Meade. Research breakthroughs with these computers were kept for the NSA. At the present time the NSA has nanotechnology computers that are 15 years ahead of present computer technology.

The NSA obtains blanket coverage of information in the US by using advanced computers that use artificial intelligence to screen all communications, regardless of medium, for key words that should be brought to the attention of NSA agents/cryptologists. These computers monitor all communications at the transmitting and receiving ends. This blanket coverage of the US is a result of the NSA's Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) mission.

The NSA's electronic surveillance network is based on a cellular arrangement of devices that can monitor the entire EMF spectrum. This equipment was developed, implemented and kept secret in the same manner as other electronic warfare programs. - Signals Intelligence Remote Computer Tampering.

The NSA keeps track of all PCs and other computers sold in the US. This is an integral part of the Domestic Intelligence network. The NSA's EMF equipment can tune in RF emissions from personal computer circuit boards (while filtering out emissions from monitors and power supplies). The RF emission from PC circuit boards contains digital information in the PC. Coded RF waves from the NSA's equipment can resonate PC circuits and change data in the PCs. Thus the NSA can gain wireless modem-style entry into any computer in the country for surveillance or anti-terrorist electronic warfare.

- Detecting EMF Fields in Humans for Surveillance

A subject's bioelectric field can be remotely detected, so subjects can be monitored anywhere they are. With special EMF equipment NSA cryptologists can remotely read evoked potentials (from EEGs). These can be decoded into a person's brain-states and thoughts. The subject is then perfectly monitored from a distance.

NSA personnel can dial up any individual in the country on the Signals Intelligence EMF scanning network and the NSA's computers will then pinpoint and track that person 24 hours a day. The NSA can pick out and track anyone in the US.

3. NSA SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE USE OF EMF BRAIN STIMULATION

NSA Signals Intelligence uses EMF Brain Stimulation for Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and Electronic Brain Link (EBL). EMF Brain Stimulation has been in development since the MKULTRA program of the early 1950s, which included neurological research into radiation (non-ionizing EMF) and bioelectric research and development. The resulting secret technology is categorized at the National Security Archives as "Radiation Intelligence", defined as "information from unintentionally emanated electromagnetic waves in the environment, not including radioactivity or nuclear detonation".

Signals Intelligence implemented and kept this technology secret in the same manner as other electronic warfare programs of the US Government. The NSA monitors available information about this technology and withholds scientific research from the public. There are also international intelligence agreements to keep this technology secret.

The NSA has proprietary electronic equipment that analyzes electrical activity in humans from a distance. NSA computer-generated brain mapping can continuously monitor all of the electrical activity in the brain continuously. The NSA records and decodes individual brain maps (of hundreds of thousands of persons) for national security purposes. EMF Brain Stimulation is also secretly used by the military for brain-to-computer link (in military fighter aircraft, for example).

For electronic surveillance purposes, electrical activity in the speech center of the brain can be translated into the subject's verbal thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the brain's auditory cortex, thus allowing audio communications direct to the brain (bypassing the ears). NSA operatives can use this covertly to debilitate subjects by simulating auditory hallucinations characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia.

Without any contact with the subject, Remote Neural Monitoring can map out electrical activity from the visual cortex of a subject's brain and show images from the subject's brain on a video monitor. NSA operatives see what the surveillance subject's eyes are seeing. Visual memory can also be seen. RNM can send images direct to the visual cortex, bypassing the eyes and optic nerves. NSA operatives can use this surreptitiously to put images into a surveillance subject's brain while they are in REM sleep for brain-programming purposes.

*Capabilities of NSA Operatives Using RNM

There has been a Signals Intelligence network in the US since the 1940s. The NSA, Ft Meade has in place a vast two-way wireless RNM system which is used to track subjects and non-invasively monitor audiovisual information in their brains. This is all done with no physical contact with the subject. RNM is the ultimate method of surveillance and domestic intelligence. Speech, 3D sound and subliminal audio can be sent to the auditory cortex of the subject's brain (bypassing the ears), and images can be sent into the visual cortex. RNM can alter a subject's perceptions, moods and motor control.

Speech cortex/auditory cortex link has become the ultimate communications system for the intelligence community. RNM allows for a complete audiovisual brain-to-brain link or brain-to-computer link.

4. NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE ELECTRONIC BRAIN LINK TECHNOLOGY

NSA SIGINT can remotely detect, identify and monitor a person's bioelectric fields.

The NSA's Signals ''

Intelligence has the proprietary ability to monitor remotely and non-invasively information in the human brain by digitally decoding the evoked potentials in the 30-50 Hz, 5 milliwatt electromagnetic emissions from the brain.

Neuronal activity in the brain creates a shifting electrical pattern that has a shifting magnetic flux. This magnetic flux puts out a constant 30-50 Hz, 5 milliwatt electromagnetic (EMF)wave. Contained in the electromagnetic emission from the brain are spikes and patterns called "evoked potentials". Every thought, reaction, motor command, auditory event and visual image in the brain has a corresponding "evoked potential" or set of "evoked potentials". The EMF emission from the brain can be decoded into the current thoughts, images and sounds in the subject's brain.

NSA SIGINT uses EMF-transmitted Brain Stimulation as a communications system to transmit information (as well as nervous system messages) to intelligence agents and also to transmit to the brains of covert operations subjects (on a non-perceptible level).

EMF Brain Stimulation works by sending a complexly coded and pulsed electromagnetic signal to trigger evoked potentials (events) in the brain, thereby forming sound and visual images in the brain's neural circuits. EMF Brain Stimulation can also change a person's brain-states and affect motor control.

Two-way electronic Brain Link is done by remotely monitoring neural audiovisual information while transmitting sound to the auditory cortex (bypassing the ears) and transmitting faint images to the visual cortex (bypassing the optic nerves and eyes). The images appear as floating 2D screens in the brain.

Two-way electronic Brain Link has become the ultimate communications system for CIA/NSA personnel. Remote neural monitoring (RNM, remotely monitoring bioelectric information in the human brain) has become the ultimate surveillance system. It is used by a limited number of agents in the US Intelligence Community.

5. [NO HEADING IN ORIGINAL DOCUMENT]

RNM requires decoding the resonance frequency of each specific brain area. That frequency is then modulated in order to impose information in that specific brain area. The frequency to which the various brain areas respond varies from 3 Hz to 50 Hz. Only NSA Signals Intelligence modulates signals in this frequency band. (See Table 1.)

This modulated information can be put into the brain at varying intensities from subliminal to perceptible. Each person's brain has a unique set of bioelectric resonance/ entrainment frequencies. Sending audio information to a person's brain at the frequency of another person's auditory cortex would result in that audio information not being perceived.

The Plaintiff learned of RNM by being in two-way RNM contact with the Kinnecome group at the NSA, Ft Meade. They used RNM 3D sound direct to the brain to harass the Plaintiff from 10/90 to 5/91.

As of 5/91 they have had two-way RNM communications with the Plaintiff and have used RNM to attempt to incapacitate the Plaintiff and hinder the Plaintiff from going to the authorities about their activities against the Plaintiff in the last 12 years. The Kinnecome group has about 100 persons working 24 hour a day at Ft Meade. They have also brain-tapped persons the Plaintiff is in contact with to keep the Plaintiff isolated. This is the first time ever that a private citizen has been harassed with RNM and has been able to bring a lawsuit against NSA personnel misusing this intelligence operations method.

6. NSA TECHNIQUES AND RESOURCES

Remote monitoring/tracking of individuals in any location inside any building, continuously, anywhere in the country.

A system for inexpensive implementation of these operation allows for thousands of persons in every community to be spied on constantly by the NSA.

Remote RNM Devices

NSA's RNM equipment remotely reads the evoked potential (EEGs) of the human brain for tracking individuals, and can send messages through the nervous systems to affect their performance RNM can electronically identify individuals and track them anywhere in the US. This equipment is on a network and is used for domestic intelligence operations, government security and military base security, and in case of bioelectric warfare. http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/mind_control3.htm http://www.iahf.com/nsa/20010214.html

The GWEN (Ground Wave Emergecy Network) system was ceremoniously and publically decommissioned in 1999, following years of public turmoil and demonstration against the placing of the towers near populated areas. According to the military, it was solely designed for emergency communications during nuclear attack, and was replaced with SCAMP, a mobile system that was harder to target. This was all of course, the party line so to speak.

It has been speculated as of late, that the equipment (which was left operable and intact after the decommissioning), was to be used for other purposes at a later date once the public hue and cry died down. We believe we have found the purpose. The equipment was designed to repeat ultra low, very low and low signals in hexagonal transmission cells, much in the same way telephone cell towers provide cellular service areas. The 200+ sites were spaced so that these cells covered the entire US, providing a "dome" of frequency over the nation. As of yesterday HAARP began broadcasting the most powerful signal strength ever publically recorded, without any reduction in strength, around the clock. At 3.39 megahertz, the signal is well within the range of the GWEN repeater systems rebroadcast capability. It was further indicated that a potential change in the concentrated broadcast direction fr om HAARP (one every minute), could be detected. If this is true, then it is conceivable that the signal is being randomly rotated into each GWEN site on the repeater grid for one minute, in an effort to eliminate jamming, and make public confirmation of the process very hard. You would literaly have to put a point-to-point device between each tower and HAARP to prove that HAARP was where the signal was being introduced into the grid from. However, for the purpose of scientific confirmation, a simple field strength test on 3.39mhz around the tower, would show that it is in use on that frequency, nd go a long way to proving this speculation is correct.

This brings up many different questions, three which we consider are the most important.

1. Is Star Wars already in place and operable NOW as a National Defense System using GWEN?

2. OR, is even this application a red herring to keep our eyes off of the true use of the system? There is a mass of evidence in hand concerning low frequency mind control experiments by the military. Were HAARP and GWEN were really designed as a nation blanketing mind control system, which is now ready to be used? If so, all of the in-fighting for the presidency would finally make sense. He who won, would be the first to control the system, and if successful, the populace of the US.

3. Is "Flash Radar" really just the electro-magnetic signature of SCAMP? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS/message/13525

http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=6977
Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves

Method and an associated apparatus for remotely determining information as to person's emotional state

Device for monitoring a magnetic field emanating from an organism

Method and system for altering consciousness

Global positioning satellite tracking device

Communication system and method including brain wave analysis and/or use of brain activity

Defense Department funding brain-machine work http://www.charleston.net/stories/080503/wor_05darpa.shtml


Calibrated Antennas


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Thu 01/15/09 04:04 PM
I heard this guy interviewed on Amy Goodman's "Democracy Now". Ever hear it? You'd probably like her. I try to listen every day.

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Thu 01/15/09 03:42 PM
Edited by norslyman on Thu 01/15/09 03:47 PM

I found a site that is talking about:
The Unholy Alliance - Christianity & The New World Order

Most will recognize the familiar group of wackadoos in the right column.

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm

Hell the Christian Right doesn't even hide their agenda well anymore, as far as wanting control in government, but don't know how involved they actually are in some global plot though I wouldn't be all that surprised..

I remember when the Bush #1 first used the words New World Order, sounded more like something our of Russia.


Eeexxxcccellllent (picture the Simpsons Mr Burns clasping his hands together):smile:

Yes, that is exactly what is going on. All those people are part of the Harlot Church. Good work.

Here is more on how movies are programming us to accept their masonic world order. "2001 Space Odessy" jumps out especially. 9-11 happens in 2001! What do they have planned for 2010? devil



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That Which is Programmed in Fiction, Programs Your Acceptance of a Planned Future


Hollywood is the magician's wand (holly-holy) which has been used to cast a spell on the unsuspecting public. Things or ideas which would otherwise be seen as bizarre, vulgar, undesirable or impossible are inserted into films in the realm of fantasy. When the viewer watches these films, his/her mind is left open to suggestion and the conditioning process begins. These same movies which are designed to program the average person, can give the discerning viewer a better understanding of the workings and the plan of the world agenda. "Be-aware".

Predictive Programming - The power of suggestion using the media of fiction to create a desired outcome.

The Experiment
(Germany) Good fictional account of actual psychological experiments in identity modification and adaptation. How people adapt to new roles under scientific guidance.

The Stand

The Trial
Surrealistic portrayal of a totalitarian system where an individual is charged with ? and goes through the logical processes without understanding that logic, albeit predictable, was never intended to win.

2001 and 2010
Written by a high free mason, Arthur C. Clarke, shows a Masonic belief system semi-obscured in allegory. Really tells a new world order beginning in 2001, ending with Part 2 - 2010. For follow up on final story, see Arthur C. Clarke's book 3001.

Revelation 2001
Knights Templar story in modern times. Descendent of Martel, going into genetic manipulation and recreation of famous holy people using DNA.

Brother of the Bell
Glenn Ford
True to life story of how Masonic societies and fraternities run the business world with ruthless efficiency.

Shenandoah
James Stewart
About the corruption, reality of war and the human fall out.

The Name of the Rose
Sean Connery
Written by Umberto Echo
Medieval time piece using an actual meeting of the Catholic church held in the mountain monastery. Hints strongly at how ancient knowledge was hidden and stored within it's library and locked from the public's eyes.

The Man Who Would Be King
Sean Connery and Michael Caine
Written by Rudyard Kipling
Two ex-soldiers in nineteen century India, both free masons, join in search of Alexander the Great's treasure. (Ticked-off mason's by using Masonic greetings openly.)

Eric the Viking - Comedy
Eric and his crew go off on a quest and it shows how cultural perception can blind personal progress in specific situations.

The Lawn Mower Man
Predictive programming movie aimed at the young, encouraging excitement at the possibility of achieving amazing powers by mentally entering the actual Internet.

Jacob's Ladder
Movie based on actual experiments used in the Vietnam era on American troupes by the military scientific elite.

Storm of the Century
The mirror of human nature is reflected on a town when a Melchisidek type figure comes looking for a sorceror's apprentice.

They Live
Science fiction movie portraying the system from a special VIEWpoint by the use of scientifically designed spectacles to show the subliminal behind common symbolism.

THX 1138
George Lucas first film into a terrifying drugged worker society in a near future setting based loosely of Huxley's Brave New World.

Dark City
Sci-fi with a DNA-program memory twist.

Life of Brian
A Monty Python movie depicting Jerusalem 2000 years ago where different factions, communist, socialist, and zealots all fight with each other as well as the Romans. Brian is mistaken for a messiah and followed by the mob (representing the general population) who persistently look for magical meanings behind the simple sayings such as "Why don't we all just get along with each other?"

Things to Come by H. G. Wells (1937)
H.G. Wells, British Frontman and RIIA (CFR in America) shows the elite's plan of creating a scientific dictatorship to rule the entire world using advanced sciences including gassing whole populations from a world squadron of aircraft which he calls the freemasonry of airmen.

The Ogre
Insight into the world of a pedophile with an affinity for managing wild animals recruited for collecting young boys for the Nazi eugenics "supermen" program.

Soylent Green
A future where everyone has been crowded into cities which are polluted. The world corporation runs all legal food business system, etc. Euthanasia clinics are set up to dispense with those who have no will to go on in this miserable existence. The public are told no countryside exists outside the cities worth inhabiting and bodies are recycled as food for profit.

Eyes Wide Shut
Insight into higher cult activities of the wealthy movers and shakers showing rites of sexual magic for regeneration. Shows how a game is played with a young doctor who has no idea he is being led along a path laid out by this group for their own entertainment. Listen to the names of the people, look at the street signs back and forth, numbers, etc. Stanley Kubrick's last movie (director 2001).

:heart: Some people think they killed Kubrick for this one. He went too far. They put up with his "Kennedy" movie. But this was the final straw.

The Matrix and Matrix 2 and 3
Matrix (all of them) self-evident to the few, a good fast entertainment for the general population, and the real meaning of who's who for a very, very, small minority.

The Conversation and the follow-up Enemy of the State
Gene Hackman made years apart shows the intense surveillance of the 70's and increasing up to total surveillance in the second movie. A form of predictive programming and a high occultic legal showing to those not knowing who cannot say they didn't know.

The Village
A wealthy group of scientists design their utopia isolated from the profane using a religion for that is made for the younger village members.

Logan's Run
A pre-planned utopia where the religion makes everyone believe they move on into another world at the age of 25. This is actually a population control program in a science fiction scenario.

The Ninth Gate
Mystical journey of elite wealthy cult members seeking occult knowledge in rare old expensive books. Good fun for the new agers and a good mystery for the Adepts.

The Final Cut
Soon to be in a head near you story of a brain microchipped society where memories are recorded for the entire life of each individual, predicitive programming at its best.

Running Man
Reality show of the near future where the state uses convicts to entertain the public as the prisoners run a gauntlet of death, live on TV. Reminiscent of Huxley's 1962 Berkeley speech where he comments at the reason Rome fell was that they couldn't supply enough bread and circuses for the public and he saw no reason why a carefully constructed scientific dictatorship could not last forever.

Wag the Dog
The hollywood version of the US involvement in Bosnia-Albania which was followed to the letter a year later with no changes to the script by the real US.

Code 46:heart:
A special ability exists to eradicate memories and alter identity for people who had mated without authorization. :heart:

I'm highlighting this one as another example to go along with the other (no sex allowed) movies


more to follow.......
Alan Watt




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Thu 01/15/09 02:09 PM
Still think the remote sexual technology would revolutionize blogging.

What! You disagree with me!rant

Take that! Zap. bigsmile
Okay, Okay, I agree with you.love

Heaven help us.laugh

Here's part of the sexual agenda:
It's a little long, but some may want to read the whole thing.:wink:


Saturday, October 11, 2008
Hermaphrodic masonic new age agenda
We are comming toward and entering the age of aquarious, the true nature of astrology in its esoteric form rather than the 'profane' version the public are given is kinda of like a celestial calendar, each creature, 'age' and symbol represents the nature o what is to occur in their great work at that particular time and the age of picies is ending (as in the main religion of the west chrisianity will now be replaced by the new updated religion for the new system ie the new age, the fish symbol and jesus creating fishes is analogy to say that the age of picies has been created and if you research what picies is supposed to represent you will understand what the last 2000 years has been about and you'lll see how the changes and things that have happened fit in to that being the age of picies, and now were in to aquarious we are entering the age of hermaphroditism, the death of the individual, a kind of virtual world of illusion, a world where people ore and more fal in to a kind of mass hive consiousness until we become one big mindless hive...and all the virtual technologies, the technology addictions of video games and the iternet are the steeping stones to have us creep ever closer to this, as the world becomes more miserale and oppressive by design more people wil volunteer to be placed in almost a fantasy world virtual reality where sex, pleasure and their dreams will be promised, no realising that they will never have their life back again, the data they are collecting on us and our lives and personalities will eventually be collated to create each individual's virtual world so the day all the chips and things are activiated in everyone the switch to the virtual world will be seamless, it would be hard to tell it from the real world, ala the matrix, that movie was predictive programming for that system.

Anyhow along with this we have hermaproditic agenda for humanity, since the 'sexual revolutions' in the 50's onwards men and women are being made to be the same, women doing more of what men do and men being more female until there's little difference, it's hard to tell a lotof the time even now ad we've only just started the hermaphroditic agenda, already the pheno and xeno estrogens in the food and plastics that we eat from all the time are doing this already along with the social programmig for both sexes to become gender neutral, once you destroy each genders natural roles and each genders purpose and their knowlege of what it is to be a man and a woman relationships break down and the family is destroyed, the family is the last remnant of the tribe, the last remnant of a group of people that stand up for each other when external forces threaten them, the state needs us o be totally alone and without anyone to protect us, when the state can directly boss us around and attack us without our families and neibours defending us then they have a perfect sitation for controlling us without resistance, they cannot have us having any kind of allegences or loves beyond the state (see 1984/brave new world).

Anyhow this is the basic idea of the age of aquarious and it is the new updated part of the great work of masonry, it is one giant piece of social 'architecture' which culminates in absolue and complete eslavement of mankind and the turning of humas in to mindless anials, even withou chipped and plgged in this has happened to many people, there are millions of people out there without a spirit anymore, many people sold it some time ago, without spirit you cease to be human, as in a human is a being with a full body, soul, spirit and brain..without these things in tact you lose your humanity and these are the exact things that this world tried to destroy...poisons, brainwashing, distractions, mental imprisonment...this world in in itself a severely oppressive prison.

Anyhow i have some quotes here from helena blavatsky, she was one of the architects/promoters of the new age in the 1800's, it's been in the pipe line for centuries and was built up and developed for a long time before it was foisted upon us, the following are quotes from 'the secret doctirie' by blavatsky, it details the new age... at its core the new age really is the hermaphroditic agenda, the promotion of the idea of evoluion, all the diferent 'mystical' things aimed at entrapping women (although men fall for it too) in old profane versions of esoteric masonic doctries, hinduism and hermeticism...all kinds of literal interpretations of disciplines which are symbolic of mystery school secrets and methods of ruling humanity, such as astrology as described earlier, yoga, earth worshiping, environmentalism, evolution, reincarnation, chaneling, spiritualsm, tarrot cards, bhudism, all sorts of gurus and lifestyle bosses and counter culture spiritual groups, meditation and general types of rituals and superstitions...these are all basically simplified and exoteric fake versions of masonic beliefs which symolise methods of controlling humanity.

Anyhow, i recomend you read blavatskys stuff, its very revealing in terms of the new age.

the whole book is here:

http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/secret_doctrine/secret_doctrine.htm

the volume this is from is volue 2 antropogenesis...basically 'the changing of man'.

"The occult doctrine, anyhow, can be advantageously compared with that of the most liberal men of science, who have theorised upon the origin of the first man.
Long before Darwin, Naudin, who gave the name of Blastema to that which the Darwinists call protoplasm, put forward a theory half occult and half scientifico-materialistic. He made Adam, the a-sexual, spring suddenly from the clay, as it is called in the Bible, the Blastema of Science. "It is from this larval form of mankind that the evolutive force effected the completion of species. For the accomplishment of this great phenomenon, Adam had to pass through a phase of immobility and unconsciousness, very analogous to the nymphal state of animals undergoing metamorphosis," explains Naudin. For the eminent botanist, Adam was not one man, however, but mankind, "which remained concealed within a temporary organism . . . . distinct from all others and never contracting alliance with any of these." He shows the differentiation of sexes accomplished by "a process of germination similar to that of Medusæ and Ascidians." Mankind, thus constituted physiologically, "would retain a sufficient evolutive force for the rapid production of the various great human races."

De Quatrefages criticises this position in the "Human Species." It is unscientific, he says, or, properly speaking, Naudin's ideas "do not form a scientific theory," inasmuch as primordial Blastema is connected


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in his theory with the First Cause, which is credited with having made potentially in the Blastema all past, present, and future beings, and thus of having in reality created these beings en masse; moreover, Naudin does not even consider the secondary Causes, or their action in this evolution of the organic world. Science, which is only occupied with Secondary Causes, has thus "nothing to say to the theory of Naudin" (p. 125).

Nor will it have any more to say to the occult teachings, which are to some extent approached by Naudin. For if we but see in his "primordial Blastema" the Dhyan-Chohanic essence, the Chhaya or double of the Pitris, which contains within itself the potentiality of all forms, we are quite in accord. But there are two real and vital differences between our teachings. M. Naudin declares that evolution has progressed by sudden leaps and bounds, instead of extending slowly over millions of years; and his primordial Blastema is endowed only with blind instincts — a kind of unconscious First Cause in the manifested Kosmos — which is an absurdity. Whereas it is our Dhyan Chohanic essence — the causality of the primal cause which creates physical man — which is the living, active and potential matter, pregnant per se with that animal consciousness of a superior kind, such as is found in the ant and the beaver, which produces the long series of physiological differentiations. Apart from this his "ancient and general process of creation" from proto-organisms is as occult as any theory of Paracelsus or Khunrath could be."




another quote:

"21. WHEN THE RACE BECAME OLD, THE OLD WATERS MIXED WITH THE FRESHER WATERS (a); WHEN THE DROPS BECAME TURBID, THEY VANISHED AND DISAPPEARED, IN THE NEW STREAM, IN THE HOT STREAM OF LIFE. THE OUTER OF THE FIRST BECAME THE INNER OF THE SECOND. (b). THE OLD WING BECAME THE SHADOW, AND THE SHADOW OF THE WING (c).

(a) The old (primitive) Race merged in the second race, and became one with it.

(b) This is the mysterious process of transformation and evolution of mankind. The material of the first forms — shadowy, ethereal, and negative — was drawn or absorbed into, and thus became the complement of the forms of the Second Race. The Commentary explains this by saying that, as the First Race was simply composed of the astral shadows of the creative progenitors, having of course neither astral nor physical bodies of their own — this Race never died. Its "men" melted gradually away, becoming absorbed in the bodies of their own "sweat-born" progeny, more solid than their own. The old form vanished and was absorbed by, disappeared in, the new form, more human and physical. There was no death in those days of a period more blissful than the Golden Age; but the first, or parent material was used for the formation of the new being, to form the body and even the inner or lower principles or bodies of the progeny.

(c) When the shadow retires, i.e. when the astral body becomes covered with more solid flesh, man develops a physical body. The "wing," or the ethereal form that produced its shadow and image, became the shadow of the astral body and its own progeny. The expression is queer but original.

As there may be no occasion to refer to this mystery later, it is as well to point out at once the dual meaning contained in the Greek myth bearing upon this particular phase of evolution. It is found in the several variants of the allegory of Leda and her two sons Castor and Pollux, which variants have each a special meaning. Thus in Book XI. of the Odyssey, Leda is spoken of as the spouse of Tyndarus, who gave birth by her husband "to two sons of valiant heart" — Castor


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and Pollux. Jupiter endows them with a marvellous gift and privilege. They are semi-immortal; they live and die, each in turn, and every alternate day; ejterhmeroi *. As the Tyndaridæ, the twin brothers are an astronomical symbol, and stand for Day and Night; their two wives, Phœbe and Hilasira, the daughters of Apollo or the Sun, personifying the Dawn and the Twilight. † Again, in the allegory where Zeus is shown as the father of the two heroes — born from the egg to which Leda gives birth — the myth is entirely theogonical. It relates to that group of cosmic allegories in which the world is described as born from an egg. For Leda assumes in it the shape of a white swan when uniting herself to the Divine Swan.‡ Leda is the mythical bird, then, to which, in the traditions of various peoples of the Aryan race, are attributed various ornithological forms of birds which all lay golden eggs. § In the Kalevala (the Epic Poem of Finland), the beauteous daughter of the Ether, "the Water Mother," creates the world in conjunction with a "Duck" (another form of the Swan or Goose, Kalahansa), who lays six golden eggs, and the seventh, "an egg of iron," in her lap. But the variant of the Leda allegory which has a direct reference to mystic man is found in Pindar ∫∫ only, with a slighter reference to it in the Homeric hymns. ¶ Castor and Pollux are in it no longer the Dioscuri (of Apollodorus III. 10, 7); but become the highly significant symbol of the dual man, the Mortal and the Immortal. Not only this, but as will now be seen, they are also the symbol of the Third Race, and its transformation from the animal man into a god-man with only an animal body.

Pindar shows Leda uniting herself in the same night to her husband and also to the father of the gods — Zeus. Thus Castor is the son of the Mortal, Pollux the progeny of the Immortal. In the allegory made up for the occasion, it is said that in a riot of vengeance against the Apherides ** Pollux kills Lynceus — "of all mortals he whose sight is the most penetrating" — but Castor is wounded by Idas, "he who sees and knows." Zeus puts an end to the fight by hurling his thunderbolt and killing the last two combatants. Pollux finds his brother dying.†† In

his despair he calls upon Zeus to slay him also. "Thou canst not die altogether," answers the master of the Gods; "thou art of a divine race." But he gives him the choice: Pollux will either remain immortal, living eternally in Olympus; or, if he would share his brother's fate in all things, he must pass half his existence underground, and the other half in the golden heavenly abodes. This semi-immortality, which is also to be shared by Castor, is accepted by Pollux.* And thus the twin brothers live alternately, one during the day, and the other during the night. †

Is this a poetical fiction only? An allegory, one of those "solar myth" interpretations, higher than which no modern Orientalist seems able to soar? Indeed, it is much more. Here we have an allusion to the "Egg-born," Third Race; the first half of which is mortal, i.e., unconscious in its personality, and having nothing within itself to survive ‡ ; and the latter half of which becomes immortal in its individuality, by reason of its fifth principle being called to life by the informing gods, and thus connecting the Monad with this Earth. This is Pollux; while Castor represents the personal, mortal man, an animal of not even a superior kind, when unlinked from the divine individuality. "Twins" truly; yet divorced by death forever, unless Pollux, moved by the voice of twinship, bestows on his less favoured mortal brother a share of his own divine nature, thus associating him with his own immortality.

Such is the occult meaning of the metaphysical aspect of the allegory. The widely spread modern interpretation of it — so celebrated in antiquity, Plutarch tells us, § as symbolical of brotherly devotion — namely, that it was an image borrowed from the spectacle of Nature — is weak and inadequate to explain the secret meaning. Besides the fact that the Moon, with the Greeks, was feminine in exoteric mythology, and could therefore hardly be regarded as Castor — and at the same time be identified with Diana — ancient symbologists who held the Sun, the King of all sidereal orbs, as the visible image of the highest deity, would not have personified it by Pollux, a demi-god only"

it is highlyimportant to understand castor, pollox and zeus to understad the hermaphroditic agenda and the new age, the only way to really understand this in depth is to commit to some in depth reading, i cant possily write a tiny fraction of it on here, if you really want the truth it requires making yourself read the elite texts that detail them, as you do it more however it will get easier, we're conditioned not to be able to read these kinds of books cause the way modern media is structured it conditions us not to be able to follow long in depth concepts, ive found many people cant do this these days but you can break this and just make yourself do it, if you really want the truth you'll be able to make yourself, it just depends how much you want the truth, it may seem impossible but many wont even try for long enough to see if it is possible, it requires devoting your time to it and making it your soul focus and cutting ou the poisoning glare of the media, tv, novels etc.
the next pt will be the quotes i mentioned.
the next post will be a direct lift from the section intitled 'the divine hermaphrodite' and 'jah-hovah androgynous'
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Thu 01/15/09 12:12 PM
Edited by norslyman on Thu 01/15/09 12:13 PM
What? Nobody's reading these articles?sad

There's some good stuff in there. I'll try to find shorter ones.

I'm looking for testimonies to back up the fact that they DO have the technology for remote sexual stimulation. I SWEAR I read some a while back and can't find them now. I realize people go for the tabloid type sensationalism - that's why I picked a racy title for this post.

Now, if mingle2 were smart they would look into this technology. Imagine the dating websites of the future noway

Actually, sex will be outlawed in the future. NWO doen't want us sheeple reproducing. Only THEY will be allowed to reproduce. Maybe this is all we'll have left. They've already told us in the movies. "Demolition Man" - they have sex in a chamber without touching. And George Lucas first film "THX 1134" - they watch your EVERY move and no sex allowed! The character does have some high-tech porn to watch however. "1984" no sex - they get arrested.

If THAT doesn't motivate people to fight the NWO, I don't know WhAT will.laugh laugh laugh


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Thu 01/15/09 11:54 AM
Cayenne pepper is good for the :heart:

If you can sneak past the FDA's gestapo that is, er uh, I mean the doctors. They get VERY protective of their victim, er uh, patient. Plead with them to get her some cayenne. Or just start sprinkling it on her food.:smile:

Cayenne Pepper




Cayenne is the strongest of the capsicum family and is one of the greatest herbs on the planet. It's health benefits are often ignored or ridiculed by the general public, like garlic, due to its culinary use and associations. It is the number one circulatory herb, being extremely effective and totally harmless.



Natural Remedy for the Circulation



It has a total effect on the circulation and performs all the main actions required of a natural circulatory remedy. It prevents stickiness of blood platelets, considerably reducing the tendency to clot and has a resolving action on existent thrombosis. This is remarkable in view of the fact that it rapidly stops internal and external hemorrhage. It cleans the blood vessels making long term use or regular courses a rejuvenator of the circulation. It can have a wonderful effect on brain clarity and memory, especially for the elderly by its normalising effect on the circulation to that most vital organ! This normalising effect means that any areas of the body that are deficient in blood supply, such as the brain, will receive fresh vitalising blood to renew and restore. The normalising effect also means that high blood pressure will tend to be reduced and low blood pressure raised. Cases of gangrene have been reported cured by this wonderful herb.



Cayenne and Heart Attacks



This herb even has the capability to abort some types of heart attack and angina. (If a blood clot is not the major cause.) For example when there is pain in the heart and the left arm (angina) and more severely, a crushing pain (like an elephant sitting on the chest), sipping a glass of hot water into which a teaspoon of cayenne has previously been infused (i.e. by bringing the water to the boil with one teaspoon of cayenne added, and leaving to infuse for a few minutes) will, in many cases abort the attack within minutes.



Regular use of a sufficient dose of cayenne will keep these individuals free of heart attacks for many years, possibly for life, with those of this susceptibility. (One does not have to endure the burning taste of the hot water method for regular use, encapsulation being the preferred option!). This action of Cayenne is due to its ability to help oxygenate the tissues, combined with an antispasmodic property. Adequate tissue oxygenation is one of the prime factors in health maintenance, especially relevant with the elderly. Its action on the heart goes even further to help produce a regular heart beat.



Cayenne and Digestion



Another valuable effect of capsicum is on the digestion. It is actually good for the stomach. Indigestion, poor digestion and even stomach ulcers are all improved or rectified. (It is possibly due to its antiseptic properties that the bacteria involved in stomach ulcer cases is eliminated). So contrary to what is sometimes believed, cayenne will not harm the stomach or other internal organs, but only aid function. It has a stimulating effect where there is sluggishness of the digestion or circulation, yet normalises high blood pressure. It is used in many herbal formulations, even those not aimed at the digestion or circulation, since it is used to help circulate or 'carry' the other herbs around the body.



Cayenne helps maintain the presence of blood within the vessels, and to provide a balance of white blood cells, therefore supporting the lymph system. It is an effective remedy for 'piles' by equalising circulation to the anus. It is also very beneficial for circulatory disorders of the extremities, including the legs, such as claudication, varicose veins etc. This article does not allow sufficient space to anywhere nearly describe the full extent of the capability and action of cayenne, so you are encouraged to read Dr. John Christopher's book detailed below



Cayenne is available in vegecaps - and is also included in our Circulate formula



1. Capsicum by Dr. John R. Christopher. Pub. Christopher Publications Utah USA.



Disclaimer: Regenerative Nutrition advocates a holistic approach to natural health and wellbeing. The body's ability and power to heal depends upon the totality of diet, nutrition, lifestyle and environmental factors. No claims for the cure of any disease is intended, or implied. Always consult a health care practitioner when combating disease states. The statements in this article have not been approved by the FDA.


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More from raven1.net - this site is HUGE!noway

Chapter Nine:
Programming Linked to Stories, Movies, Cartoons, or role Play Dramatization
In this chapter, I want to address a special type of programming that is universal with the Illuminati. It is programming that is linked to a story, movie, cartoon, or role play dramatization.

For countless centuries, Illuminati trainers and leaders have used role playing to reinforce as well as program children, and it is a favorite mode of teaching up to this day. A typical drama set up, or role play, will involve a "visit through time." The child is told, while drugged or hypnotized, that it and the other children with it (usually, a small group will go through this programming together) are going to " time travel". The trainer or teacher is seen as immensely powerful by the children, as he or she magically transports them through time. They enter another room, where people are dressed up in period costumes from whichever time period in history the teacher wants the children to see. Everything is historically accurate and well researched. An example: if the children are to visit ancient Rome, they will be taken to a room in the Senate, where the characters are dressed in togas. They will be speaking to each other in ancient Latin and debating issues. Caesar, or another king will enter the senate. Roman customs for a scenario such as this one will be adhered to throughout the role play.

One purpose of this role playing, is that the children are told they are getting a "behind the scenes " peek at history. Illuminati agenda will be put forward, and the children will "see" that famous figures in history were actually Illuminists. This will reinforce their "special ness" and the historicity of the group. It will also reinforce language training, since the scenes may occur in medieval England, or the French court of Louis XIV, etc. The scenes will also contain a moral that builds on programming the children have been undergoing. Maybe they will watch a "traitor" being "guillotined" in the French court. Or an unworthy senator, who tries to betray his king, will be stabbed. The child may be given a role in the play, such as taking a secret message to the king or queen, to reinforce courier programming. The child really believes that they have stepped back into history, and are part of the process of helping create history.

With modern times, programming has become more sophisticated with the advent of technology. Before television or movies, programming was often "scripted" around famous fairy tales, or stories, read aloud by one trainer while the second trainer worked with the child. A good see-song voice is necessary in a "reader". The child would be read the story, and under hypnosis and trauma, told that they are one of the characters in the story. They are told the "real" meaning of the story, its "hidden meaning" and told that whenever they hear the story, to remember what it really means.

Now days, movies and videos are frequently used in programming. Favorite scripts include: Walt Disney movies (Disney was an Illuminist), especially Fantasia, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast. The Wizard of Oz, both books and movie, has been used. Any movie that incorporates Illuministic themes can be used. E.T. and Star Wars have been used in more recent years.

How Script programming is done:
The trainer will play the movie for the child. The child is told that they will be "asked about " the movie, this cues the child to use photographic recall about what they are viewing. The trainer may show the child an edited shorter version of the movie, with only parts of the whole, or may show the child a short scene from the movie.

After watching the movie, or scene, the child is drugged to relax it, then asked what it remembers. The child will be shocked if it cannot recall items the trainer deems important, and will be forced to watch the scenes repetitively.

When the child has total recall of the segments, the trainer will tell the child that it is one of the characters. The child may be heavily traumatized first, and a blank slate personality created inside to be the desired character. The first thing the blank slate sees is a recording of the movie, or scene. This is its "first memory". The trainer will then link the scene with Illuminati ideology. They will teach the child the "hidden meaning" in the movie, and praise the child for being one of the few "enlightened ones" who can understand what it truly means. The script programming will often be linked to other programming the child is undergoing. Military programming may be linked to Star Wars. Total recall programming may be linked to Data in Star Trek. Computer programming may be linked to Hal in 2001 A Space Odyssey; internal labyrinth programming may be linked to the movie "Labyrinth". The possibilities are quite varied and will depend on both the child and the trainer as to which direction script programming will go. Music from the show, or scene, will be used as a trigger to access the programming inside or bring forward these personalities.

Suggestions:

Scripted programming will often involve a great deal of traumatization, to create the "blank slate" alters desired. The programming will be ground in with repetition, electroshock, torture, drugging and hypnosis. The alters inside who have gone through this programming will often be highly disconnected from external reality and may believe that they are part of a "script". They may be Dorothy seeking the Emerald City (or the achievement of Illuminati rule on earth). They may be a computer or the character Data. Reality orientation will be very important. Allow these parts to experience safe outside reality, and test for themselves if they are really part of a man or woman. Looking in a mirror may help, when they express readiness. Having cognitive helpers who can share daily life memories with them, may help to ground them. At first they will be very surprised, even indignant or hostile, at suggestions that they are not the character. They will think the therapist is a trainer, or part of the script, since this is the only reality that they have known. Re-grounding, patiently, over and over to present reality, increased communication with others inside, and eventually grieving over the intense amount of trickery and deception that they experienced, will be necessary. With time and patience these parts will be willing to give up their old "scripted" roles and become part of the person's present reality.

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Chapter Ten
The Sixth step of Discipline: Betrayal; Twinning, Internal walls, Structures, Geometry
This chapter will address the sixth step of discipline in the Illuminati:

Betrayal programming.

Betrayal programming will begin in infancy, but will be formalized at around ages six to seven, and continue on into adulthood. The sixth step can be summarized as : "betrayal is the greatest good." The Illuminists teach this to their children as a very important spiritual principle. They idealize betrayal as being the true state of man. The quick witted, the adept, learns this quickly and learns to manipulate it.

The child will learn this principle through set up after set up. The child will be placed in situations where an adult who is kindly, and in set up after set up "rescues" the child, gains its trust. The child looks up to the adult as a "savior" after the adult intervenes and protects the child several times. After months or even a year of bonding, one day in a set up the child will turn to the adult for help. The adult will back away, mocking the child, and begin abusing it. This sets in place the programming: adults will always betray a child and other adults.

Another set up will involve twinning, which deserves special mention here. The Illuminati will often create twin bonds in their children. The ideal is to have a set of real twins, but of course this is not always possible. So, the child is allowed to play with, and become close to, another child in the cult from earliest childhood. At some point early on, the child will be told that the other child is actually their "twin", and that they were separated at birth. They are told that this is a great secret and not to tell anyone, on pain of punishment. The child, who is often lonely and isolated, is overjoyed. It has a twin, someone who has a special bond to them by birth.

The children do everything together. They are taught together, do military training together. They tell each other secrets. They are also frequently friends in the daytime as well. They are taught to cross access each other just as real siblings would be.

But at some point, they will be forced to hurt each other. If one "twin" is considered expendable, the ultimate set up will be one in which one twin is forced to die while the other watches. One twin may gather secrets from the other twin, be forced to disclose them to a trainer or cult leader, then may be forced to kill the other. One twin may be forced to hit, or hurt the other. If they refuse, the other twin will be brutalized by the trainer, and the refusing twin told that the child was hurt because of their refusal to comply. Many setups will involve one twin being forced to betray the other, turning on the other child after intense programming. This betrayal set up will devastate both children, and they will learn the true lesson: trust no one. Betray, or be betrayed.

The children will also have adult role models on every hand, since the cult is a very political, hierarchical, back stabbing society. Adults are constantly betraying each other, stepping over each other to move up. The children will watch one adult being praised, advanced, because they betrayed others below them, or set them up to fail. The children will learn quickly to mimic the adults around them, and both adults and children can become quite cynical as to human nature. They will have seen it at its worst, whether in training sessions, the brutality of a C.O. in military, or the gossip and back stabbing that occurs before and after rituals. They also incorporate the message internally: play the game, or be run over. Even the youngest children learn to manipulate others adeptly, at a very young age, while the adults laugh at how quickly they are learning adult ways. People manipulation is considered a fine art in the cult, and those who do it best, as in any group, often win out.

Suggestions:
Betrayal programming may have totally shattered the survivor's trust in outside people. It will take a therapist a long, long time to gain the survivor's trust. These are people who were taught over and over again that talking, sharing one's secrets, would be punished harshly. Inside littles will be very cautious at first, not trusting that the therapist is not just another trainer who will one day shout "aha!" and betray them if they begin to trust. This trust building takes time and patience, and must be earned through session after session where the therapist shows trustworthiness and non abusiveness. Survivors will test therapists over and over again, to see if they really are what they say they are. This is a normal part of the therapy process. Survivors may even try to back away from therapy, or outside support, as true caring support will "wig them out", i.e. conflict incredibly with their world view and experiences prior to leaving the cult.

Both survivor and therapist need to realize that some amount of distrust is healthy, based on what the survivor has experienced, and may be life saving, helping to protect them from outside accessing. Honor this need and be patient while the survivor tests over and over. The survivor can try to reason with inside alters who may have been betrayed to the point of legitimate paranoia. They may ask them to watch, and see what the therapist, and/or support person is like. To take their time, check them out. To be aware that what they went through may magnify normal feelings of caution. Helping orient these parts to outside reality, and especially positive experiences of trusting a little, and not being harmed, will help make great strides in undoing this. The survivor may feel confusion and internal conflict, as they experience a world where trust is possible. They may pull away, or the reverse, become highly dependent on the therapist and share too quickly due to a longing for safe intimacy that has never been met. Setting healthy boundaries while acknowledging needs will help the survivor through this stage.

Another type of programming involves the deliberate creation of internal structures within the cult member.

Internal structures: temples, eyes, mirrors, carousels etc.

The Illuminati trainers will try to create internal structures within the person's personality systems. Why? They believe this creates better stability. It also gives the alters and fragments a place to "hang on to" inside, and creates a convenient way to call them up. If a fragment is indexed inside to an internal helix, for example, the trainer knows how to locate them more easily.

Internal structures will vary greatly depending on the trainer, the group, the region of the U.S. or Europe and the goals for the individual. Common internal structures will include, but are not limited to:


Temples: these are often consecrated to principle Illuminati deities, and spiritual alters will congregate here. This may represent actual temples, Masonic or private, that the subject may have visited.

Temple of Moloch will be created out of black stone with a fire burning internally.

All seeing eye of Horus: one of the most common structures in an Illuminati system; universal. Horus is a deity revered by the Illuminati, and the all seeing eye internally represents the fact that the cult can always see what the individual is doing. It will also represent being given to Horus in a high ceremony. The eye may be closed, or open, depending on the system's status at the time. This eye will also be linked to demonic watching of the person's activities at all time.

Pyramids: the Illuminati revere ancient Egyptian symbology, especially "mystery religion" and Temple of Set teachings. Pyramids will be placed internally both for stability (a triangle, and/or pyramid represents strength and stability), and as a calling place for the demonic. Pyramids and triangles, and the number three, represent calling up the demonic in Illuminist philosophy.

Sun: represents Ra, the sun god

Geometric figures: configurations of circles, triangles, pentagons, etc. Geometric patterns are considered sacred, and are based in ancient philosophy. There may be hundreds overlapping in a training grid for complex systems, which will house fragments in each one.

Training grids: these may be simplistic, such as cubes with patterns on them, rows of boxes, or more complex such as helixes, double helixes, infinity loops. Each trainer will have favorites classified as simple, medium and complex, depending on the child and its ability to recall and memorize.

Columns: Greek Doric, ionic columns. Often hold "time travel" programming, with a portal between two columns.

Computers: complex, highly dissociated systems with alters and fragments held within a computer system.

Robots: may be seen in older systems

Crystals: gems, balls, multifaceted. Used in spiritual systems to enhance occult powers. Alters and fragments may congregate on facets of a large ball.

Mirrors: used internally to reinforce other programming sequences, internal twinning, and distortion of reality programming. May create shadow systems of functional systems. May also lock in demonic programming.

Carousels: used in some programming sequences to confuse alters inside. Often linked to spin, confusion programming internally. May be used to punish internal alters; they will be spun on the carousel if they tell.

Deck of cards: this can include cards from a deck, or complex configurations made of hundreds of card inside. Dominoes programming is similar. All touch each other and if person tries to dismantle programming, the deck will "fall".

Black boxes: represent self destruct and shatter programming sealed off into a black box to protect system. Should not be opened without careful preparation and good therapy.

Mines, booby traps: see above

Spider webs: represent linked programming, with a spider (internal programmer) who continuously reweaves the web and reinforces internal programming and punishments. The web also communicates with other systems. Can also represent demonic linkages internally, woven in.

Internal training rooms: used as punishments for internal alters. Will represent external training rooms person has been in.

Internal walls: these will often represent very large internal amnesia barriers. The walls may be very thick, impermeable or semi permeable. A typical use for a wall will be to maintain high levels of amnesia between "front" or daily living, amnesic alters, and "back" or cult active alters that contain more of the person's life history. The back may be able to selectively see over and cross past the wall, but the front will be completely unaware that there is a wall, or what lays behind it.

Seals: usually in a group of six or seven, represent demonic sealing, and may cover end times, shatter programming, as well as role within cult in new hierarchy.
These are some common programming structures. Again, there are many, many other types of internal structures used and the number and type are only limited by the trainer's and survivor's creative abilities. The way that these structures are placed within the person are fairly
similar. Under drugs, hypnosis and electroshock, the person is traumatized into a deep trance state. In the deep trance they will be told to open their eyes and look at: either a projected image of the structure, a 3D model of it, or a holographic image using a virtual reality headset. The image will be ground in, using shock and bringing the image closer and closer to the person's visual field. It may be rotated, if graphics are available, or a 3D is used. They may be told that they are entering inside it, if it is a temple or pyramid, under deep hypnosis, that they (the alter being programmed) will now "live inside" the structure/box/card, etc. This will also be used to reinforce amnesia and isolation programming internally, since the structure will be used to reinforce walls between the alter/ fragment and other alters and fragments internally.

Suggestions:
If the survivor finds structures inside, it will help for them first of all to try and realize WHY they are there. What purpose do they serve? To reinforce amnesia? Isolation? spiritual programming? punishment? To hold dangerous programming sequences? This is important, since some structures such as internal walls or barriers may have been created not only by the cult, but reinforced by the survivor as well, as a means of internal protection. The survivor may not want to dismantle internal structures too quickly without knowing their purpose and what they contain. Both the survivor and the therapist will need to go slowly. Learning how the structures were put in and which alters are linked to the structure, will be a first step. Long, slow and careful preparation, with lots of system cooperation, will be needed to look at some structures. This may only come after years of extensive therapy. Each survivor will progress at their own pace. If a wall is present, taking it down slowly, one brick at a time, or allowing part of it to become semi permeable, may be first steps in healing. Training rooms can have the equipment turned off and dismantled; it can be turned into a safe room, redecorated and refitted with toys and safe objects. Computers can slowly begin to realize that they are human, and gradually allowed to take on human characteristics.

Survivors can use their creativity to reclaim themselves, with the support of their therapists, and undo what was done.

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More info from raven1.net

CIA Experiments with Mind Control on Children
by Jon Rappoport :heart:


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The CIA mind-control apparatus has been well known since 1975, when 10 large boxes of documents were released pursuant to Freedom of Information Act requests.

Several good books were then written on the subject of the CIA program known as MK-ULTRA. Officially spanning ten years from 19 52-62, MK-ULTRA involved the use of LSD on unwitting military and civilian subjects in the United States. LSD and more powerful compounds were given under duress as brainwashing and truth serum drugs. The program's aim was to find drugs which would irresistibly bring out deep confessions or wipe a subject' s mind clean and program him or her as "a robot agent."

In experimental test situations, people were given acid without their knowledge, then interrogated under bright lights with doctors sitting in the background taking notes. Threats would be made. The test subjects were told that their LSD "downer trips" would be extended indefinitely if they refused to reveal their closely-guarded military secrets. The people being interrogated in this way were CIA employees, U.S. military personnel and, abroad, agents suspected of working for the other side in the Cold War. Long-term severe debilitation and several documented deaths resulted. Much, much more could be said about MK-ULTRA.

None of this prepared people for the explosive testimony made on March 15, 1995, in Washington, D.C., before the President's Committee on Radiation, however. In unpublicized sessions, New Orleans therapist Valerie Wolf introduced two of her patients who had uncovered memories of being part of extensive CIA brainwashing programs as young children (in one case, starting at age seven). Their brainwashing included torture, rape, electroshock, powerful drugs, hypnosis and death threats. According to their testimony, the CIA then induced amnesia to prevent their recalling these terrifying sessions.

Both Wolf and her patients stated that they recovered the memories of this CIA program without regression or hypnosis techniques. In other words, these patients spontaneously discovered this information about themselves and their pasts.

Although the committee was mainly concerned with radiation, they permitted Valerie and her patients to testify because, astonishingly, several doctors who had administered the mind- control experiments had also been identified by other Americans secretly exposed to radiation. Apparently there was a crossover.

Prominent names surfaced in the March 15 testimony: Richard Helms, former head of the CIA, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, who ran MK- ULTRA and Dr. John Gittinger, Gottlieb's protege. These men and others were directly accused of participating in grisly mind- control efforts on children.

Predictably, this testimony received no media attention.

I now have it all, including many pages submitted to the committee that will likely never be released as part of their final report. Only a small percentage of the pages were read aloud at the hearing. Included are corroborating statements from other therapists around the country and several of their patients. I have now released all of this testimony as a book, U.S. Government Mind-Control Experiments On Children.

When the sickening shock starts to wear off, deeply disturbing questions flood one's mind: just what was this CIA program? How extensive was it? What was its purpose?

From what I have been able to discover so far, many American children, as well as children from Mexico and South America, were used over a period of about 40 years, starting around 1948. In fact, the program may still be going on. Doctors and agents who administered it wanted to obtain control over the minds of these children, ostensibly to create superagents who wouldn't remember even what missions they carried out, because of hypnotically induced amnesia (which could be removed by their controllers and reinstalled at will). (1)

Children were trained as sex agents, for example, with the job of blackmailing prominent Americans -- primarily politicians, businessmen and educators. A great deal of filming was done for this purpose. Eventually, people from the inner core of the CIA program filmed each other, and some of the centers where children were used as sex agents got out of control and turned into CIA-operated sex rings.

Some children were considered expendable and simply murdered.

One person who states that he was in this program as a child said, off the record:

"They tried out their brainwashing techniques on the kids from Mexico and South America. They were considered expendable. But on another echelon of the program, they went after the best and the brightest American kids. Making perfect agents to combat the Soviets wasn't, I don't think, their ultimate objective. I can't remember what that was."
At this point, I made a suggestion:

"Well, if they were choosing the best and brightest, maybe they figured these kids would one day rise to important positions in the society, and they wanted to gain long-term control over them, so they would be under their thumb, so they could tap them at will -- a way of controlling the future society."

"Maybe," he said. "The Nazis gained control over the intelligentsia in Germany. That was a very key step in their dominance. That was the first thing they did".

"This smells very much like a Nazi program in the U.S.," I said. "I don't mean all the controllers were German, but the style of it, the insanity."

He said, "They brought over a lot of Nazi doctors after the war and not just to build rockets -- for a lot of projects."

Other people who said that they had been used as children in the program remember that doctors with German accents were definitely present at the sessions. One therapist, who shared this information informally with colleagues around the country, states that, so far, the oldest person she has heard of who was in the program is now 52; the youngest is now nine.

Since a number of people who were brainwashed, tortured and drugged in these experiments try to resolve their experiences in therapy, psychiatrists and other professional therapists are hearing these stories. They are told, for example, that CIA controllers sometimes dressed up in Satanic costumes to further traumatize the children, also providing a cover that wouldn't be believed if the children ever talked.

It is worth noting that there is a movement to discredit these " recovered" memories, and the most prominent group, the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF), has several board members with CIA or military-intelligence connections -- including the notorious Dr. Louis "Jolly" West of UCLA, who tried to establish a center for "the study of violence" at the university in the 1970s. This center's specialty would have been psychosurgery, a horrendous melting of brain connections, supposedly to curb people's "violent tendencies."

FMSF maintains that a person always remembers abuse done to him or her, and therefore any new recovery of it in therapy is false and must have been fabricated through misleading suggestions by the therapist. While it is certainly true that such inducement happens in therapy, the blanket statement that all recovered memory is invented is unsubstantiated.

In a written statement to Dr. Wolf that was included in her testimony to the president's committee, well-known researcher and psychiatrist, Colin Ross said,

"Published articles in my files include descriptions of administration of 150 mcg of LSD to children age 5-10 years on a daily basis for days, weeks, months, and in a few cases even years. Neurosurgeons at Tulane, Yale, and Harvard did extensive research on brain electrode implants with intelligence funding, and combined brain implants with Large numbers of drugs including hallucinogens."
Ross based his report on his more than 20 years of investigating CIA mind control.

Chris De Nicola, one of Dr. Wolf's patients who testified before the president's committee, named her controller as a Dr. Greene, a name reported by several other mind-control subjects. It may well be that this name was a cover used by various CIA and military-contracted experimenter-torturers. Here is a quote from her testimony:

"[Dr. Greene] used me in radiation experiments both for the purpose of determining the effects of radiation on various parts of my body and to terrorize me as an additional trauma in the mind-control experiments. [She was eight years old.]
"The rest of the experiments took place in Tucson, Arizona, out in the desert. I was taught how to pick locks, be secretive, use my photographic memory to remember things and a technique to withhold information by repeating numbers to myself. [She is obviously talking about being trained as an agent.]

"Dr. Greene moved on to wanting me to kill dolls that looked like real children. I stabbed a doll with a spear once after being severely tortured, but the next time I refused. He used many techniques but as I got older I resisted more and more.

He often tied me down in a cage, which was near his office. Between 1972 and 1976 he and his assistants were sometimes careless and left the cage unlocked. Whenever physically possible, I snuck -into his office and found files with reports and memos addressed to CIA and military personnel. Included in these files were project, subproject, subject and experiment names with some code numbers for radiation mind-control experiments which I have submitted in my written documentation. I was caught twice and Dr. Greene tortured me ruthlessly with electric shock, drugs, spinning on a table, putting shots in my stomach, in my back, dislocating my joints and hypnotic techniques to make me feel crazy and suicidal..."

Is there a precedent for this kind of sadistic treatment by CIA and military personnel? Indeed there is. Here is a quote from the introduction to my book, U.S. Government Mind-Control Experiments On Children. It contains information from reliable published sources; such as The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, by John Marks (2), Acid Dreams, by Martin Lee (3) and The Mind Manipulators, by Alan Scheflin (4). In part, these authors derived their information on the CIA and MK-ULTRA from the ten boxes of information released suddenly in 1975 by the agency in response to Freedom of Information Act requests:

"Dr. Robert Heath of Tulane University, as early as 1955, working for the Army, gave patients-LSD while he had electrodes implanted deep inside their brains.

"Canadian researcher, Dr. Ewan Cameron, under long-term CIA contract, attempted to depattern, and reprogram his psychiatric patients' personalities wholesale. He started with 15 to 65 days of 'sleep therapy,' during which a patient was kept under nearly 24 hours a day, through the administration of cocktails of Thorazine, Nembutal, Seconal, Veronal, and Phenergam. Throughout this sleep period, the patient would be awakened two or three times a day for electroshock treatments, given at an intensity 20-40 times the 'normal' convulsion-producing strength.

"In the mid-1950's, Paul Hoch, M.D., a man who would become Commissioner of Mental Hygiene for the State of New York, then a laborer in the field for the CIA, gave a 'pseudoneurotic schizophrenic' patient mescaline. The patient had a not- unfamiliar heaven-and-hell journey on the compound. But Hoch followed this up with a transorbital leucotomy...Hoch also gave a patient LSD, and a local anesthetic, and then proceeded to remove pieces of cerebral cortex, asking at various moments whether the patient's perceptions were changing."

Claudia Mullin, the other of Dr. Wolf's patients who testified before the President's Committee on Radiation, said her experiences with CIA mind-control experiences began when she was seven years old:

"In 1958, 1 was to be tested, they told me, by some important doctors coming from a place called the 'Society' [the Human Ecology Society, a CIA front]. I was told to cooperate; answer any of their questions. Then, since the test 'might hurt,' I would be given 'shots, x-rays, and a few jolts of electricity.' I was instructed not to look at anyone's face too hard and to ignore names,' as this was 'a very secret project' but to be brave an all those things would help me forget...
"A Dr. John Gittinger tested me and Dr. Cameron gave me the shocks and Dr. Greene the x-rays...By the time I left to go home, just like every time from then on, I would recall nothing of my tests or the different doctors. I would only remember whatever explanations Dr. Robert G. Heath [of Tulane Medical School] gave me for the odd bruises, needle marks, burns on my head and fingers and even the genital soreness. I had no reason to believe otherwise. Already, they had begun to control my mind!

"The next year, I was sent to a place in Maryland called Deep Creek Cabins to learn how to 'sexually please men.' Also, I was taught how to coerce them into talking about themselves. It was Richard Helms (Deputy Director of the CIA), Dr. Gottlieb, Captain George White and Morse Allen, who all planned on filming as many high government and agency officials and heads of academic institutions and foundations as possible...I was to become a regular little 'spy' for them, after that summer, eventually entrapping many unwitting men, including themselves, all with the use of a hidden camera. I was only nine when this kind of sexual humiliation began."

Captain George White was a notorious agent for the CIA. He set up a brothel in San Francisco in the 1960s and, using hidden cameras, filmed men having sex with prostitutes. The men's drinks were "spiked" with LSD. In 1950, Morse Allen, another important CIA, man, was appointed head of Project BLUEBIRD, another CIA mind-control program.

Ms. Mullin states that she was adopted when she was two years old. By the time she reached seven she had already been abused extensively by her mother. Her mother apparently turned her over for "testing" to CIA-connected people and Claudia then entered a 27-year period of what can only be called enslavement. Claudia states that she has been monitored, that she is still monitored and watched by agency related people, including a medical doctor. Now living in New Orleans, she has given information to local police authorities about her situation. In her testimony to the president's committee, Claudia remarked,

"Although the process of recalling these atrocities is certainly not an easy task, nor is it without some danger to myself and my family...I feel the risk is worth taking."
Claudia's therapist, Dr. Wolf, has written to the president's committee,

"To the best of my knowledge, [Claudia] has read nothing about mind-control or CIA covert operations. Since she decided to listen carefully and remember as much as she could about conversations among the researchers, her memories are extraordinarily complete. I have sent written copies of memories to Dr. Alan Scheflin [author of The Mind Manipulators] for validation and he has confirmed that she has knowledge of events and people that are not published anywhere, that some of her memories contain new information and that some are already known and published. Some of her memories have been confirmed by family members. She has also shown me old scrapbooks where she wrote notes to remember what was happening to her and hid the notes under pictures in the scrapbook."
I spoke with Alan Scheflin in May of this year. He said he had found one piece of information Claudia had mentioned in her recollections that had no precedent in published material. It involved a connection between two government researchers.

This is just the tip of the iceberg on the 130 pages of testimony given before the President's Committee on Radiation, and it is also just the beginning of a history that will undoubtedly widen in the coming months and years. Dr. Wolf told me that when word got around she was going to testify before the president's committee, she was contacted by about 40 therapists "in just the 10 days leading up to my trip to Washington." The therapists had heard similar CIA mind-control stories from their own patients. Many of these professionals are afraid to go on the record about their patients' stories, as censure from their professional societies is a reality. The political mood these days is not conducive to granting an aura of credibility to revelations of CIA brainwashing.

So what else is new?

[Jon Rappoport is a distinguished investigative reporter and the author of AIDS, INC. He can be found inhabiting the late night airwaves of KPFK radio in Los Angeles and lecturing at the Hardware Humanitarian House in Santa Monica, California.]

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Lots of people suffered under the Inquisitions. And they have never really gone away! I'm sure you and I would have both been burned. I just have to keep making the point that these crimes were carried out by the Catholic church, which is really Babylonian Mystery Religion dressed up to look like the Church. It was founded by Simon the Sorcerer, and he was the first Pope. Peter the apostle was never even in Rome! You could view the New World Order as a modern day Inquisition. We should ALL recognize that fact, no matter what our faith. They don't care WHAT we believe, as long as we submit to THEM.


Portugal was created in 1139

More countries mean MORE WARS so the Vatican created the country of Portugal in 1139.

Beginning around 800 A.D., Vikings began attacking the coast of Spain. Out of this Viking enclave was created the country of Portugal with military help from Papal England.

Not only was there constant warfare between the Roman Catholics and the Moors but now was added an additional country to fight. The constant warfare hardened the people so that by the time of the discovery of the New World a horrible engine of destruction was created which was called the Spanish Inquisition.



Surrender of the Moors to Ferdinand and Isabella in Jan. 1492, after occupying Spain for 781 years.
The Moors surrendered to Ferdinand and Isabella in Jan. 1492, after occupying Spain for 781 years.....What a coincidence!!!!

The constant conflict created a hard cruel ruthless Spanish citizenry which was epitomized by the Spanish Inquisition.

This allowed for the redeployment of the Spanish army to the New World just in time to block the English and French colonization!!


Pope Alexander VI gave the entire New World to the Spanish Inquisition!!

Now that Satan had created his masterpiece called the Spanish Inquisition, it was time to present it to the world.



Pope Alexander VI.
1431 to 1503.
Pope from 1492 to 1503.
Satan gave Rodrigo Borgia 12 years in the Papacy to accomplish his mission!!

That mission was to steal the entire New World from John Cabot and England and give it to the Spanish Inquisition... Pope Alexander VI published a Bull giving the entire New World to Spain and absolutely forbidding ANY other nationality from even visiting the western continent without a license from Ferdinand and Isabella . . . and their successors!!

The Italians have a tradition that Borgia was so wicked that even the devil was ashamed of his behavior and came for him before the 12 years were up!!

His grandson, Don Francis Borgia, was the co-founder of the Jesuits.

The main mission of the Jesuits —besides fighting the Reformation — is to ensure that the Bull of Borgia is implemented in the New World.


The economic, military and "educational" arm of the Spanish Inquisition!!

The "Federal" Reserve Bank is the economic arm of the Spanish Inquisition.

This Bank uses USURY and the printing press paper money system as a weapon to destroy the Protestant U.S. Republic and its God given Constitution:



Spanish Inquisition Bank a.k.a. the "Federal" Reserve Bank headquarters in Washington City on Constitution Avenue!!
He who pays the piper calls the tune so the Spanish Inquisition "Federal" Reserve Bank has a virtual economic stranglehold on the entire country.

Usury is a form of economic warfare and is strictly prohibited by the Bible.

God did permit usury in the Bible but that was to help destroy the 7 wicked nations that inhabited the Promised Land.

Once those nations were destroyed, usury was strictly forbidden by the Scriptures.


The Pentagon is the military arm of the Spanish Inquisition in the U.S. and around the world.



The Pentagon in Washington City is the war making arm of the Spanish Inquisition.
The Pentagon is the military arm of the Spanish Inquisition.

Since the Civil War, the U.S. has faced no threat of foreign invasion so a peacetime standing army is like a leech draining the financial lifeblood of the nation.

During the 19th century, the Spanish Inquisition used Great Britain as their substitute or surrogate in order to conquer and destroy other nations.

Now they are using the U.S. Republic in the exact same manner.

Spanish Inquisition dupes Darwin and Darby!!

When is comes to "education" the Spanish Inquisition is absolutely ruthless. They used Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler and Einstein to attack the FIRST book of the Bible and Darby to attack the book of Revelation—the LAST book of the Bible.

In the secular realm they used DARWINISM or EVILution to destroy faith in the Genesis and scientific account of Creation. All the schools under their control teach Darwinism or the theory that the earth is millions of years old and that man came from monkeys.



Charles (ape-man) Darwin.
(1809 to 1882).
This deadly Spanish Inquisition Jesuit has sent millions of soul to hell believing that they were just animals that time and chance happened to place on this small planet.

He stole his theory from ancient Egypt where monkeys were a vital part of the Pharaonic religion.

EVILution destroys faith in God and the Bible. With no fear of a coming judgment, politicians and others have no qualms about taking bribes from the "Federal" Reserve Bank in order to deliver the country to the Spanish Inquisition.

Darwin lied and denied the existence of giants and he claimed to have found the missing link in Patagonia, Argentina.


John Nelson Darby

John Nelson Darby is known as the father of FUTURISM or Dispensationalism.

Unlike Darwin, who convinced the world that the Genesis account of Creation happened in the distant PAST, Darby convinced the world that the Book of Revelation—the last book of the Bible— applied only to the distant FUTURE or the last 7 years before the end of the world.



John Nelson Darby.
(1800 to 1882).
Prior to Darby, all Protestant Christians believed that the Book of Revelation was a history of the Christian congregation from the first century to the end of time.

They believed that the great falling away happened soon after the end of the apostolic age and that the Papal dynasty answered in every way to the great apostasy or falling away predicted by the Apostle Paul.

They believed that the Pope was Antichrist and that the Papal dynasty was the Whore of Babylon vividly described in Revelation chapters 17 and 18.


Since Antichrist would not be revealed until years in the future, the Christians were lulled into a deep sleep and stopped preaching like Saint Martin Luther and the early Reformers.

Jesus said that His followers were the SALT of the EARTH and the LIGHT of the world. Thanks to Darby, the salt has lost his savour and is good for nothing but to be trampled underfoot of the great Papal wild beast from hell. Here is an apt description of most of the Christian congregation today:

"His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber." (Isaiah 56:10).

And again:

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue (spit) thee out of my mouth." (Revelation 3:16).

Like Darwin, Darby did a tremendous job for the Spanish Inquisition.


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First of all, I've already told my kids that if they cause incurable brain damage to me due to years of electromagnetic
torture to the head, I don't want to live. period. Don't feed me ice chips, ok?

I've decided not to proceed with this post any further because
I don't need to prove myself to you people, and
also, I should only really talk about my personal story
with people I trust and who will shower me with love
and acceptance.

thanks for understanding.




I think you're incredibly brave to share as much as you have in public. I really do hope people understand. I would encourage anybody who REALLY does want to help to contact you via you're personal email.

By the way. Is anybody else out there having trouble sleeping? I have a cell phone tower at one end of the block, and wireless internet antenna at the other end. I think I'm getting some electromagnetic energy myself. Many people at my church have also said they are having trouble sleeping. Sleep deprivation is a #1 mind control technique. You cannot function properly without your REM sleep. I cannot imagine having electronic voices directed at me on top of this! People think I'm crazy now?laugh
You are doing fantastic considering your circumstances.

May Yahweh bless you and keep you,
May he shine his face upon you and be gracious to you.
May Yahweh lift up his countenance upon you,
and grant you peace.
And a peaceful nights sleep.
Shalom