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Sun 01/04/09 06:10 AM
Empty your pockets of truth for there is only dust. flowerforyou

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Sun 01/04/09 05:56 AM

GEE! Was that the only name you could come up with? You can't discredit God that way. Try some of these as well. :smile:

FYI....Elohim...The Lord our God the Lord is one. That alludes to the trinty. Elohim being plural. Three person ...One God.

EL: God ("mighty, strong, prominent") used 250 times in the OT See Gen. 7:1, 28:3, 35:11; Nu. 23:22; Josh. 3:10; 2 Sam. 22:31, 32; Neh. 1:5, 9:32; Isa. 9:6; Ezek. 10:5. El is linguistically equivalent to the Moslem "Allah," but the attributes of Allah in Islam are entirely different from those of the God of the Hebrews.

ELAH is Aramaic, "god." Elah appears in the Hebrew Bible in Jer. 10:11 (which is in Aramaic, and is plural, "gods"). In Daniel (the Aramaic sections) Elah is used both of pagan gods, and of the true God, also plural. Elah is equivalent to the Hebrew Eloah which some think is dual; Elohim is three or more. The gods of the nations are called "elohim." The origin of Eloah is obscure. Elohim is the more common plural form of El. Eloah is used 41 times in Job between 3:4 and 40:2, but fewer than 15 times elsewhere in the OT. See the Catholic Encyclopedia entry on Elohim.

ELOHIM: God (a plural noun, more than two, used with singular verbs); Elohim occurs 2,570 times in the OT, 32 times in Gen. 1. God as Creator, Preserver, Transcendent, Mighty and Strong. Eccl., Dan. Jonah use Elohim almost exclusively. See Gen. 17:7, 6:18, 9:15, 50:24; I Kings 8:23; Jer. 31:33; Isa. 40:1.

EL SHADDAI: God Almighty or "God All Sufficient." 48 times in the OT, 31 times in Job. First used in Gen. 17:1, 2. (Gen. 31:29, 49:24, 25; Prov. 3:27; Micah 2:1; Isa. 60:15, 16, 66:10-13; Ruth 1:20, 21) In Rev. 16:7, "Lord God the Almighty." The Septuagint uses Greek "ikanos" meaning "all-sufficient" or "self-sufficient." The idols of the heathen are called "sheddim."

ADONAI: Lord in our English Bibles (Capitol letter 'L ', lower case, 'ord') (Adonai is plural, the sing. is "adon"). "Master'' or "Lord" 300 times in the OT always plural when referring to God, when sing. the reference is to a human lord. Used 215 times to refer to men. First use of Adonai, Gen. 15:2. (Ex. 4:10; Judges 6:15; 2 Sam. 7:18-20; Ps. 8, 114:7, 135:5, 141:8, 109:21-28). Heavy use in Isaiah (Adonai Jehovah). 200 times by Ezekiel. Ten times in Dan. 9.



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JEHOVAH: LORD in our English Bibles (all capitals). Yahweh is the covenant name of God. Occurs 6823 times in the OT First use Gen. 2:4 (Jehovah Elohim). From the verb "to be", havah, similar to chavah (to live), "The Self-Existent One," "I AM WHO I AM" or 'I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE" as revealed to Moses at the burning bush, Ex.3. The name of God, too sacred to be uttered, abbreviated ( . . . . ) or written "YHWH" without vowel points. The tetragrammaton. Josh., Judges, Sam., and Kings use Jehovah almost exclusively. The love of God is conditioned upon His moral and spiritual attributes. (Dan. 9:14; Ps. 11:7; Lev. 19:2; Hab. 1:12). Note Deut. 6:4, 5 known to Jews as the Sh'ma uses both Jehovah and Elohim to indicate one God with a plurality of persons.

JEHOVAH-JIREH: "The Lord will Provide." Gen. 22:14. From "jireh" ("to see" or "to provide," or to "foresee" as a prophet.) God always provides, adequate when the times come.

JEHOVAH-ROPHE: "The Lord Who Heals" Ex. 15:22-26. From "rophe" ("to heal"); implies spiritual, emotional as well as physical healing. (Jer. 30:17, 3:22; Isa. 61:1) God heals body, soul and spirit; all levels of man's being.

JEHOVAH-NISSI: "The Lord Our Banner." Ex. 17:15. God on the battlefield, from word which means "to glisten," "to lift up," See Psalm 4:6.

JEHOVAH-M'KADDESH: "The Lord Who Sanctifies" Lev. 20:8. "To make whole, set apart for holiness."

JEHOVAH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace" Judges 6:24. "Shalom" translated "peace" 170 times means "whole," "finished," "fulfilled," "perfected." Related to "well," welfare." Deut. 27:6; Dan. 5:26; I Kings 9:25 8:61; Gen. 15:16; Ex. 21:34, 22:5, 6; Lev. 7:11-21. Shalom means that kind of peace that results from being a whole person in right relationship to God and to one's fellow man.

SHEPHERD: Psa. 23, 79:13, 95:7, 80:1, 100:3; Gen. 49:24; Isa. 40:11.

JUDGE: Psa. 7:8, 96:13.

JEHOVAH ELOHIM: "LORD God" Gen. 2:4; Judges 5:3; Isa. 17:6; Zeph. 2:9; Psa. 59:5, etc.

JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU "The Lord Our Righteousness" Jer. 23:5, 6, 33:16. From "tsidek" (straight, stiff, balanced - as on scales - full weight, justice, right, righteous, declared innocent.) God our Righteousness.

JEHOVAH-ROHI: "The Lord Our Shepherd" Psa. 23, from "ro'eh" (to pasture).

JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH: "The Lord is There" (Ezek. 48:35).

JEHOVAH-SABAOTH: "The Lord of Hosts" The commander of the angelic host and the armies of God. Isa. 1:24; Psa. 46:7, 11; 2 Kings 3:9-12; Jer. 11:20 (NT: Rom. 9:29; James 5:4, Rev. 19: 11-16).



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EL ELYON: 'Most High" (from "to go up") Deut. 26:19, 32:8; Psa. 18:13; Gen. 14:18; Nu. 24:16; Psa. 78:35, 7:17, 18:13, 97:9, 56:2, 78:56, 18:13; Dan. 7:25, 27; Isa. 14:14.

ABHIR: 'Mighty One', ("to be strong") Gen. 49:24; Deut. 10:17; Psa. 132:2, 5; Isa. 1:24, 49:26, 60:1.

BRANCH: (tsemach), The Branch: Zech. 3:8, 6:12; Isa. 4:2; Jer. 23:5, 33:15.

KADOSH: "Holy One" Psa. 71:22; Isa. 40:25, 43:3, 48:17. Isaiah uses the expression "the Holy One of Israel" 29 times.

SHAPHAT: "Judge" Gen. 18:25

EL ROI: "God of Seeing" Hagar in Gen. 16:13. The God Who opens our eyes.

KANNA: "Jealous" (zealous). Ex. 20:5, 34:14; Deut. 5:9; Isa. 9:7; Zech. 1:14, 8:2.

PALET: "Deliverer" Psa. 18:2.

YESHUA: (Yeshua) "Savior" ("he will save"). Isa. 43:3. Jesus is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew "Joshua." The latter is a contraction of Je-Hoshua. ("Christ", the anointed one is equivalent to the Hebrew Maschiah, or Messiah). [See Wikipedia article].

GAOL: "Redeemer" (to buy back by paying a price). Job 19:25; For example, the antitype corresponding to Boaz the Kinsman-Redeemer in the Book of Ruth.

MAGEN: "Shield" Psa. 3:3, 18:30.

STONE: Gen. 49:24

EYALUTH: "Strength" Psa. 22:19.

TSADDIQ: "Righteous One" Psa. 7:9.

EL-OLAM: "Everlasting God" (God of everlasting time) Gen. 21:33; Psa. 90:1-3, 93:2; Isa. 26:4.

EL-BERITH: "God of the Covenant" Used of Baal in Judges 9:46. Probably used originally to refer to the God of israel.

EL-GIBHOR: Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)

ZUR: "God our Rock" Deut. 32:18; Isa. 30:29.

Malachi calls Messiah "The Sun of Righteousness" (Malachi 4:2).

Isaiah calls Messiah "Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God (El Gibhor), Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" (Isa. 9:6).

'Attiq Yomin (Aramaic): "Ancient of Days," Dan. 7:9, 13, 22.

MELEKH: "King" Psa. 5:2, 29:10, 44:4, 47:6-8, 48:2, 68:24, 74:12, 95:3, 97:1, 99:4, 146:10; Isa. 5:1, 5, 41:21, 43:15, 44:6; 52:7, 52:10.

"The Angel of the Lord: " Gen. 16:7ff, 21:17, 22:11, 15ff, 18:1-19:1, 24:7, 40, 31:11-13, 32:24-30; Ex. 3:6, 13:21, Ezek. 1:10-13. Seen in the theophanies, or pre-incarnate appearances of the Son of God in the OT (See I Cor. 10:3 NT).

FATHER: 2 Sam. 7:14-15; Psa. 68:5; Isa. 63:16, 64:8; Mal. 1:6.

THE FIRST AND LAST: Isa. 44:6, 48:12.



All those quotes tell me that "God" can be interpreted in any number of ways...

BUT if this God is not Unconditional Love, and please don't tell me It is cause you really would be making a mockery of the concept, then you are welcome to It.

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Fri 01/02/09 11:18 AM


what does it matter if GOD created us why cann't we just be thankful for life


Your mother "created" you. You should send her a card or something. If shes not alive, you can still say thank you mom.


Higher intelligent beings will know the where and the why... given that our ancestors were probably aliens and ultimately their spirituality evolved before we existed. flowerforyou :)

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Fri 01/02/09 11:06 AM
Edited by skypoetone on Fri 01/02/09 11:06 AM

A Zen Master lived the simplest kind of life in a little hut at the foot of a mountain. One evening, while he was away, a thief sneaked into the hut only to find there was nothing in it to steal. The Zen Master returned and found him. "You have come a long way to visit me," he told the prowler, "and you should not return empty handed. Please take my clothes as a gift." The thief was bewildered, but he took the clothes and ran away. The Master sat naked, watching the moon. "Poor fellow," he mused, " I wish I could give him this beautiful moon."

What is the lesson of this story or what reaction do you have for this tale?


Arr! Zen, I love it - it tells me all I need to know, it is this... Moondark hits the nail on the head, we live in the material world, when it comes to beliefs they cannot be stolen, they are your immaterial uniqueness. :)

Zen Listen

Talk is never straight
but broken patterns
of vibrations.
Vibration only
resonates in the ear
of those who listen.

Morning never breaks
it comes straight from
the heart of the sun.
Night never falls but
rises with the moon
to paint a daytime black.

© 2007

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Thu 01/01/09 03:06 PM

is it society?
is it tv?
where do you find it?

for me it's easy (GOD SAY'S)


It's a combination of good old common sense and knowing the law of the land. :)

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Thu 01/01/09 02:51 PM
Edited by skypoetone on Thu 01/01/09 02:53 PM

People talk of "free will" but they don't practice it.

If free will has any meaning or truth at all there can only be suggestions. No such thing as commandments. These are guidelines which were later called "commandments" by men who wanted more control over the flock.

There is no "sin" as the term is only owned by religious doctrine to describe disobedience of God. Outside of a religious organization or belief, the word "sin" is meaningless.


There is no sin. There are no commandments.

There is only freedom.

Freedom is paramount.


Excellent thread Jeannie. flowerforyou

"Sin" like Freewill" can be seen in the same light... a religious idea, although we all know that free will is a given, I'd like to draw the comparisons. Freewill (religious version) A God given thing that holds many restrictions to its use... somewhat an oxymoron from where I'm standing. Free will, as in human nature, is the ability to think and/or do for yourself WITHOUT outside intervention - to me this is the pure and logical way to use it. This is not to say that we should not consider the feelings of others in the process of using the same; as in a meaningful life, we should always consider the cause and effect on everyone else. Blessings to you. :)

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Thu 01/01/09 05:46 AM
The more I hear the pathetic reasoning behind the hatred of so called "heathens" and their many grotesque demises the stronger my passion is to denounce it.

If GOD means anything it is UNCONDITIONAL LOVE… imho the bible is Satanic.

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Thu 01/01/09 05:23 AM


each one reads and understands what each one wants.
the individual who reads something as the Bible and stays just with the literal meaning of the Bible, is like the one who cannot see farther than his/her nose.
Those who argue about violence in the Bible are the same as the christian fundies, the only difference is that the former argue the other way around from the christian fundies, but the end both of them are the very same thing. LITERALISTS.


Oh for pete's sake.How many times are we going to hear the "its not what you think" excuse or "you arent reading the additional 20 page extended exegesis required to properly understand the passage:"

"stone the heathens with stones until their blood is upon them and then stone them some more.":

That is part of what leads to arguments on these forums. Just acknowledge what they are blatantly saying. Its your own holly book yet there is a considerable lack of accountability being taken. huh


Nicely said Krimsa! ;)

It is just the type of political claptrap I would have expected. The many ways to avoid answering the charges of a pitiful bible. It seems their God has them by the short and curly’s for fear of questioning the appalling accounts of gross mass slaughter directed by “Him”.

Mr. Lonely, you are right about one thing... MY God WILL thank me for fulfilling It’s command. Happy New Year. :)

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Wed 12/31/08 12:55 PM
Edited by skypoetone on Wed 12/31/08 12:56 PM


"Well if God says we are to kill those who commit these crimes against His laws, then maybe that's an indication of how seriously we should take His word. Unfortunately all too many people have moved away from the seriousness of the cost to moving away FROM His word in regard to life & living."

Rarely have I heard such bigotry and hate!





Being selective about what I wrote doesn't make you right. I suggest you read it thoroughly before you name call.

Yes... sorry, quote box used. :)

How can you say I am being selective and then address "others of good faith will know what I wrote"... can you hear the hypocrisy in that statement?

Happy New Year All! :)

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Wed 12/31/08 12:22 PM
"Well if God says we are to kill those who commit these crimes against His laws, then maybe that's an indication of how seriously we should take His word. Unfortunately all too many people have moved away from the seriousness of the cost to moving away FROM His word in regard to life & living."

Rarely have I heard such bigotry and hate!

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Wed 12/31/08 12:14 PM



Yes well many have the same mindset of looking at everything in such a physical way that they miss the spirit message all together.


I don't make decisions in life based on fear, period. Some folks will need to fear a god to do what is right. That works for them, it does not for me.

I prefer to do what is right because it's right, not because I fear the wrath of a god.


I agree...fear never movitated me either. I think doing things in love is the best way... not because you have to but because you want to.


How does/did God's wrath produce love? No, it was the "Fear of God" that produced any respect, love was never in the equation until the appearance of Christ... in other words this "God" failed miserably and used Christ as a means of showing Love... the problem with this is that it can be seen as absurd to use one's offspring as a sacrifice. Christ then appears to have been a scapegoat.

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Wed 12/31/08 12:04 PM




each one reads and understands what each one wants.
the individual who reads something as the Bible and stays just with the literal meaning of the Bible, is like the one who cannot see farther than his/her nose.
Those who argue about violence in the Bible are the same as the christian fundies, the only difference is that the former argue the other way around from the christian fundies, but the end both of them are the very same thing. LITERALISTS.


Then MR. Lonely Walker... are you "lonely" because you want to be?



This is your opportunity to spin what you read not to read what you read, k?


COGITO ERGO SUM, my friend.


‘I think, therefore I am’… what exactly?

More to the point, how does this address the point I was making?

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Wed 12/31/08 04:15 AM


each one reads and understands what each one wants.
the individual who reads something as the Bible and stays just with the literal meaning of the Bible, is like the one who cannot see farther than his/her nose.
Those who argue about violence in the Bible are the same as the christian fundies, the only difference is that the former argue the other way around from the christian fundies, but the end both of them are the very same thing. LITERALISTS.


Then MR. Lonely Walker... are you "lonely" because you want to be?

This is your opportunity to spin what you read not to read what you read, k?

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Tue 12/30/08 05:33 PM

I wonder why the view of those who believe a man can do whatever he wants. Sleep with whatever he wants. Act however he wants. Attacks whatever he wants.

Laws are made for the law breaker not for him who does not break them.

To him thier is no law. Because simple intelligence tells him what is right and what is wrong.. Shalom..Miles


Yes, good old common sense dictated what is right from wrong - not "God" and the only Hell is the one you make for yourself - right here on earth - the same applies for Heaven.

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Tue 12/30/08 05:24 PM
My God would never condone Killing, yet the bible God loved the smell of burning flesh... btw, Christ didn't need to die for me, if I had lived in those times I would have given my own life up WILLINGLY!

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Tue 12/30/08 05:09 PM


MorningSong

You are at liberty to explain what you mean... how you think these vile scriptures are misinterpreted. Perhaps taken out of context, BUT I can assure you I have spent many years studying lots of religions and texts. My conclusions are not shooting from the hip.




Sky......

everything in the bible, from beginning to end...

points to man's need for a Saviour.

All the vile stuff you see....is the result of sin, separating man from God.

God Our Heavenly Father wants to bring us back home where we belong...with Him......

and has already provided a way...thru Christ Jesus.

Abba Father... is just waiting for us all to come home.


God Loves Us Very Much.

And misses His Creation who all were created to be in Fellowship with Him.
Not separated from Him..



:heart::heart::heart:



Very sweet... if I could believe that, I don't because there's nothing to suppose it's true... What I read it that the bible God is a "God of War", that "slaves are acceptable", that "infanticide is acceptable", that "God" discriminates between the sexes by saying that "women should remain silent", that "Killing none virgins" is somehow to be blessed, that "Taking them as slaves/wives of those slaughtered is fine." Should I continues? NO if God loves UNCONDITIONALLY (and as I have said, this is my belief) then these things are totally UNACCAPTABLE.

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Tue 12/30/08 04:56 PM
Truth is subjective; simply how you perceive it... how do you know that your life isn't just an illusion? How can we be certain that we are the only "intelligent" species in the universe or multiverse?

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Tue 12/30/08 04:44 PM
Edited by skypoetone on Tue 12/30/08 04:45 PM
Well thank God all men don't think alike then!

SKPCG...


Odd you should relate pornography to the writings of the Bible. Men wrote the Bible.


Thanks, ok, but why would it be odd though? Lots of women indulge in pornography, but alas, this is off topic.

*The original thread is still available and I will be using it further, should anyone want information to it I may be able to provide the link through email... not sure of the rule about this tho. :)

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Tue 12/30/08 04:28 PM
MorningSong

You are at liberty to explain what you mean... how you think these vile scriptures are misinterpreted. Perhaps taken out of context, BUT I can assure you I have spent many years studying lots of religions and texts. My conclusions are not shooting from the hip.

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Tue 12/30/08 04:20 PM
Edited by skypoetone on Tue 12/30/08 04:21 PM
Biblical Violence is the Real Porn

This thread is NOT about porn in general. I use the term to describe the hate-filled pages of the bible, as read and studied by millions and sadly believed by millions who have NEVER read it…

Now porn is not necessarily a serious problem (other than it generally teaches lack of respect for a woman's right to say NO). Mutual agreement of it between consenting adults is NOT a problem…

Violence IS a real problem since it teaches lack of respect for ALL human life. Lets look at what the Bible has to offer:

1) In Leviticus 25:44-46, the Lord tells the Israelites it's OK to own slaves, provided they are strangers or heathens.
2) In Samuel 15:2-3, the Lord orders Saul to kill all the Amalekite men, women and infants, even the unborn are murdered in their mothers bellies.
3) In Exodus 15:3, the Bible tells us the Lord is a man of war.
4) In Numbers 31, the Lord tells Moses to kill all the Midianites, sparing only the virgins.
5) In Deuteronomy 13:6-16, the Lord instructs Israel to kill anyone who worships a different god or who worships the Lord differently.
6) In Mark 7:9, Jesus is critical of the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as prescribed by Old Testament law.

This is just a tiny selection of what the scriptures give. Violence can be found throughout the O.T. and N.T. Some passages appear so vile they are unthinkable, let alone readable. What are we supposed to make of them?