Yes that would be my interpretation. Hell or destruction are both pretty caustic. But thats just me.

Matthew 7

7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Jesus says that most people will go to hell. He seems to be OK with that. I am not so worried about it in that case.

Well that would be fine for those that choose to accept Christ. So what is wrong with finding a different spiritual path or perhaps none at all? Why would that condemn a person to hell automatically? Is it possible that you may end up in hell for sowing the seeds of discourse among brethren?

Errrr could I have that in Engrish, prease????

I know you must be talking about yourself. Right?

You're hysterical. You claim to believe in Christ yet make fun at everything the Bible is based on.

I guess that's what they mean by designer christians hey?

These boards are a joke.

c'mon man, she's not helping Satan. She has a very enquiring and analytical mind and when and if God touches her heart, that same mind will be just as strong in spreading Gods word and truth. One who doesn't know yet isn't evil, One who knows in their heart and then refuses God, this can be more evil

You seem to have enough disposable income for beer at 10am

RELIGION is greedy, maybe YOU r 1 of the ones that need to figure this out.

Its been clearly shown to u thru this thread, if u r not of the untelligence to understand wats been said to u, dont keep coming back with crappy lil posts that dont back up wat ur sayin.

Just a lil titbit of info i found....


The wealth of the Christian church
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posted Sunday, 9 July 2006

The filthy stinking rich Vatican


Let me give you a few interesting quotes from the book The Vatican Billions (1983) by Avro Manhattan:

"Jesus, the founder of Christianity, was the poorest of the poor. Roman Catholicism, which claims to be His church, is the richest of the rich, the wealthiest institution on earth. (...)
How come, that such an institution, ruling in the name of this same itinerant preacher, whose want was such that he had not even a pillow upon which to rest his head, is now so top-heavy with riches that she can rival - indeed, that she can put to shame - the combined might of the most redoubtable financial trusts, of the most potent industrial super-giants, and of the most prosperous global corporation of the world?"

"The Vatican has large investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States it has large investments with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, and others. The Vatican has billions of shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc. At a conservative estimate, these amount to more than 500 million dollars in the U.S.A. alone."

"In a statement published in connection with a bond prospectus, the Boston archdiocese listed its assets at Six Hundred and Thirty-five Million ($635,891,004), which is 9.9 times its liabilities. This leaves a net worth of Five Hundred and Seventy-one million dollars ($571,704,953). It is not difficult to discover the truly astonishing wealth of the church, once we add the riches of the twenty-eight archdioceses and 122 dioceses of the U.S.A., some of which are even wealthier than that of Boston."

"Some idea of the real estate and other forms of wealth controlled by the Catholic church may be gathered by the remark of a member of the New York Catholic Conference, namely 'that his church probably ranks second only to the United States Government in total annual purchase.' Another statement, made by a nationally syndicated Catholic priest, perhaps is even more telling. 'The Catholic church,' he said, 'must be the biggest corporation in the United States. We have a branch office in every neighborhood. Our assets and real estate holdings must exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T., and U.S. Steel combined. And our roster of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States Government.'"

"The Catholic church, once all her assets have been put together, is the most formidable stockbroker in the world. The Vatican, independently of each successive pope, has been increasingly orientated towards the U.S. The Wall Street Journal said that the Vatican's financial deals in the U.S. alone were so big that very often it sold or bought gold in lots of a million or more dollars at one time."

"The Vatican's treasure of solid gold has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. A large bulk of this is stored in gold ingots with the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, while banks in England and Switzerland hold the rest. But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country. When to that is added all the real estate, property, stocks and shares abroad, then the staggering accumulation of the wealth of the Catholic church becomes so formidable as to defy any rational assessment."

"The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope, as the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth, is consequently the richest individual of the twentieth century. No one can realistically assess how much he is worth in terms of billions of dollars."



This does make you wonder, doesn't it?!

I want to bring to your attention the fact that this information was published over 20 years ago, and the figures are probably even more startling today.
You can also read more on the historic background of the Vatican and its wealth accumulation The Vatican Billions (Chapter 1-11) by Avro Manhattan.
I also recommend The Church and the Wealth in Amercia (1931) by Theodore Dreiser.

What am I "sidetracking" exactly? It seems you are the one who skillfully manages that feat every morning about this time.

No, its cos u r vague and dont explain urself very well.

The same thing as anyone else who has contributed to this interesting thread (excluding yourself). Make my points, argue and debate the issues set forth by Sharp.

You didn't have to post here either...