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Wed 04/03/13 08:13 PM




Has anyone noticed that there is not one Proposed Law to Disarm the Criminal? Only the Law Abiding Citizens are to face being Disarmed by the various laws being put forward.

Not only that, but the Obama Administration isn't Enforcing a Single Law aimed at Disarming Criminals; Straw Buyers, Felons with Guns, Perjury on Background Forms.

It seems that the Dems and the Media only want Criminals to have Guns; Leaving Everyone Else Dependent on the State for their Security.


the laws are already there"
Under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, certain categories of persons are not eligible to possess a firearm or ammunition. These include

Fugitives from justice


Illegal aliens


Unlawful users of certain drugs


Those
Involuntarily
committed to a mental institution


Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for more than one year (which generally covers felonies)


Those convicted
For Two Years, but Still has Rights to Already Owned Under Strict Provisions
of crimes of domestic violence


The federal law not only creates a permanent ban on gun ownership for anyone convicted of a felony, it even applies
Provisionally but still Maintain Rights to Already Owned
to those under indictment for a felony


and the presidential cabinet doesnt disarm criminals, thats what police officers and atf do


look up gunrunners busted, and you will find plenty of examples of the laws being enforced to disarm criminals,,,,


All the stories are from Line Prosecutors, not Appointed Officers; none from Illinois that I saw. Over half the stories are about Gunrunner Holder and his arming of Criminals; more Proof on Obama wants only wants Criminals Armed & Dangerous.


so now the presidents administration is in illinois?

I thought the issue was that noone is trying to keep guns out of 'criminals' hands,, which can be researched to see it is untrue,,,,

prosecutors prosecute based on the LAW, laws are made by government,,,

gunrunning was but one type of CRIME I gave as an example, law enforcement and legislation have continued to do some things to try and keep 'criminals' from having guns although possibly not enough


The U.S. Attorney that oversees the State of IL is Dead Last in Prosecuting (90th out of 90 Districts) Federal Gun Laws; despite having the Most Violent City in the Country with the Highest Crime Rate.
One is Twice as Likely to be Killed in Chicago by a Criminal than a U.S, Service Member is to die in Afghanistan; yet to Own a Gun to Defend Oneself is Unconstitutionally Outlawed whereas Criminals Walk Around Free to Violate the Gun Laws along with a Number of Other Laws.

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Wed 04/03/13 05:06 PM





The UN has no authority over the US. In order for the UN to have that, 2/3 of the American Public would have to vote to admen the constitution. If the UN ever tries to impose that on the US, they may get the guns all right, sticking down their throats.
you'll find out when the Senate ratifies the Treaty,and Obama signs it!


The U.S. Senate already has signaled that it would not ratify such a treaty even if the POTUS were to sign it.
46 Senators are for it!



The anti-gun senators are all Democrats or so-called Independents.

Senate Bill 139 passed 53-46. 46 US Senators voted against this: “To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.”

Wizbang reported:

Fortunately, the odious, anti-American treaty was again voted down by the full Senate, but 46 Senators voted in favor of handing over our Constitutional rights to the UN.

Senator Jim Inhofe (R-OK) offered Amendment 139 that was passed with a 53 to 46 vote. His Amendment contained language to affirm that foreign treaties would not trump the U.S. Constitution.

“Mr. President,” Inhofe said on the floor of the Senate, “I want to make sure that everyone understands what the United Nations trade treaty is. The trade treaty is a treaty that cedes our authority to have trade agreements with our allies in terms of trading arms.”

He went on to say, “I want to very briefly read this so nobody over there or over here misunderstands what this amendment does. This is right out of the amendment. Uphold the Second Amendment rights, that is one thing. And secondly, prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations arms trade treaties.”

But many Democrats simply didn’t agree with Inhofe’s insistence that the U.S. Constitution trump the UN.

Forty-six Democrats-Independents favored ceding your Constitutional rights over to the United Nations.
Unreal.






lots of "D's" in that list... stupid liberals


It's part of the DemonCratic Plan to make the Masses even More Dependent on the State for their Security.

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Wed 04/03/13 05:02 PM


Has anyone noticed that there is not one Proposed Law to Disarm the Criminal? Only the Law Abiding Citizens are to face being Disarmed by the various laws being put forward.

Not only that, but the Obama Administration isn't Enforcing a Single Law aimed at Disarming Criminals; Straw Buyers, Felons with Guns, Perjury on Background Forms.

It seems that the Dems and the Media only want Criminals to have Guns; Leaving Everyone Else Dependent on the State for their Security.


the laws are already there"
Under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, certain categories of persons are not eligible to possess a firearm or ammunition. These include

Fugitives from justice


Illegal aliens


Unlawful users of certain drugs


Those
Involuntarily
committed to a mental institution


Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for more than one year (which generally covers felonies)


Those convicted
For Two Years, but Still has Rights to Already Owned Under Strict Provisions
of crimes of domestic violence


The federal law not only creates a permanent ban on gun ownership for anyone convicted of a felony, it even applies
Provisionally but still Maintain Rights to Already Owned
to those under indictment for a felony


and the presidential cabinet doesnt disarm criminals, thats what police officers and atf do


look up gunrunners busted, and you will find plenty of examples of the laws being enforced to disarm criminals,,,,


All the stories are from Line Prosecutors, not Appointed Officers; none from Illinois that I saw. Over half the stories are about Gunrunner Holder and his arming of Criminals; more Proof on Obama wants only wants Criminals Armed & Dangerous.

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Wed 04/03/13 02:49 PM
Has anyone noticed that there is not one Proposed Law to Disarm the Criminal? Only the Law Abiding Citizens are to face being Disarmed by the various laws being put forward.

Not only that, but the Obama Administration isn't Enforcing a Single Law aimed at Disarming Criminals; Straw Buyers, Felons with Guns, Perjury on Background Forms.

It seems that the Dems and the Media only want Criminals to have Guns; Leaving Everyone Else Dependent on the State for their Security.

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Tue 04/02/13 03:50 PM

Getting back to the topic of the OP, Affirmative Action is indeed a form of discrimination based on race or ethnicity.


It's time to End Affirmative Action; had been for some time now as the U.S. is no longer in need of it.

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Tue 04/02/13 01:45 PM






...thats the nature of the news, they have to pick and choose the stories that are unexpected or undesirable,,,,,their sponsors require viewership and thats what viewers choose to watch,


Isn't all human life precious? If it is, then why not report all killings of people in which firearms were involved?


because most news shows have about an hour to report the news, and they dont usually collaborate with each other to make sure EVERY story is reported,,,nor are they told of EVERY Story,

and with some 30000 gun deaths per year,,,how reasonable is it to expect the news to have the ability to report EVERY instance, and still report other events happening which are also 'news',,,,?


I didn't have any trouble finding any of these stories, but I did have to look; twice as many Bad Guys are Killed by a Citizen with a Gun than by Law Enforcement, yet you don't hear that in the National Press.

If Every Law Abiding Citizen in the Projects of Chicago carried a Gun, would the Crime Rate go Up or Down?



define 'bad guy'

im sure more citizens are robbed than police officers too, that would make logical sense to me due to how police in many places are given cart blanche to shoot to kill,,,,something I disagree with because I value human life

citizens arent given that same grace and are held (thank goodness) to a higher standard

most people know that, so they are gonna be alot more cautious around police than they will the average joe,,,

oh, and more guns would eventually lead to fewer burglaries, but more deaths of burglars and just about every other type of citizen,,,,

people are impulsive, many are paraonid, especially those with anger management issues,,
gun deaths would be justified for all types of erroneous reasons,,,,


I should have stated Criminals in place of Bad Guys, but to me they're one and the same.

Considering that there are over 60Million Armed Citizens & only 90K in Law Enforcement (Police, Sheriff, Troopers, etc.) it's no wonder that more Criminals are killed by Legal Gun Owners.

Just came across this story today of a Woman fighting off her attacker with a Gun.

OREGON CITY, Ore. (KOIN) -- A woman used her legally-owned handgun to fend off an alleged attacker on an Oregon City street late Sunday night.

The 22-year-old victim was attacked by the stranger around 10:20 p.m. just after she parked her car at 8th and JQ Adams streets, police said.

The suspect approached her from behind, she told authorities, then grabbed her ponytail, dragged her backwards and began to assault her. She pulled out her handgun and pointed it at the man, who then ran way.

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Tue 04/02/13 09:47 AM



soon as they can disprove the very real racisl discrepancies in the public education, and do away with privileges based upon school attended or family/alumni networks or for extracurricular participation,, and other things that are disproportionately available to the majority race and not to minorities,,,,,,,


If you want to improve the Local Schools, you'd have to get the State & Federal Government out of them and return the control back to the Local Community; it's one of the reasons that Private Schools outpace Public Schools, even the ones with a smaller budgets, in every field.



private schools do better because of MONEY

again, something thats not affordable to most impoverished families

so, the answer is to make PUBLIC (affordable) schools better equipped for all students

there are plenty of grade a public schoools out there, so just pointing to government involvement is not accurate

what makes the difference in the places where public schools excel and the places where they dont?

money, environment, and in my opinion, standards that dont consider childrens different learning styles (I think public schools should have more of a montessouri model than a strict grade assessment)


when we start addressing those realities, we start to truly see 'equal' educational opportunities for all of our children,,,


If Money made Schools better, than Every Public School should be doing Better; The Spending for Schools by State & Federal Government has been Increasing at Double/Triple the Rate of Inflation.

Most Private Schools don't even have the Third the Budget per Child of the Public School; yet they provide a better Education.

The one thing that Public Schools Excels at, far better than any Private School; Excuses for the Poor Education they Provide.

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Tue 04/02/13 09:27 AM




...thats the nature of the news, they have to pick and choose the stories that are unexpected or undesirable,,,,,their sponsors require viewership and thats what viewers choose to watch,


Isn't all human life precious? If it is, then why not report all killings of people in which firearms were involved?


because most news shows have about an hour to report the news, and they dont usually collaborate with each other to make sure EVERY story is reported,,,nor are they told of EVERY Story,

and with some 30000 gun deaths per year,,,how reasonable is it to expect the news to have the ability to report EVERY instance, and still report other events happening which are also 'news',,,,?


I didn't have any trouble finding any of these stories, but I did have to look; twice as many Bad Guys are Killed by a Citizen with a Gun than by Law Enforcement, yet you don't hear that in the National Press.

If Every Law Abiding Citizen in the Projects of Chicago carried a Gun, would the Crime Rate go Up or Down?

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Mon 04/01/13 10:13 PM

soon as they can disprove the very real racisl discrepancies in the public education, and do away with privileges based upon school attended or family/alumni networks or for extracurricular participation,, and other things that are disproportionately available to the majority race and not to minorities,,,,,,,


If you want to improve the Local Schools, you'd have to get the State & Federal Government out of them and return the control back to the Local Community; it's one of the reasons that Private Schools outpace Public Schools, even the ones with a smaller budgets, in every field.

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Mon 04/01/13 09:27 PM
Edited by Surmar on Mon 04/01/13 09:39 PM


yes, and they involve the apparent 'bad' guy (the one wanting to take our stuff) being stopped from doing so, which is how it is supposed to be according to popular culture so is therefore not really newsworthy

we expect people to defend their 'stuff',,,,just like we expect them to drive while sober, or achieve rank in their jobs through hard work,,,,

how many times do we hear stories about people getting home safe from work,,,as opposed to running someone down

or being promoted at their job, as opposed to discriminated against


...thats the nature of the news, they have to pick and choose the stories that are unexpected or undesirable,,,,,their sponsors require viewership and thats what viewers choose to watch,


But when watching the News, it's only Bad Guys with Guns; that's what you get to drive the Agenda to Ban All Guns, because a Bad Guy will use one.
In all Honesty, wouldn't you love to see a story where a Woman stops a Rapist with her gun? It does happen, but it never gets reported because it doesn't fit the Narrative that the "We Know Better That You" Newsrooms.
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/missouri-mother-uses-gun-to-stop-rape-of-her-daughter/
http://www.galvestondailynews.com/news/local_news/article_73acab3c-87af-11e2-a321-001a4bcf6878.html

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Mon 04/01/13 03:04 PM

Barry has to sign this one. It would make his pappy so proud.smokin



WASHINGTON (AP) — Has the nation lived down its history of racism and should the law become colorblind?

Addressing two pivotal legal issues, one on affirmative action and a second on voting rights, a divided Supreme Court is poised to answer those questions.

In one case, the issue is whether race preferences in university admissions undermine equal opportunity more than they promote the benefits of racial diversity. Just this past week, justices signaled their interest in scrutinizing affirmative action very intensely, expanding their review as well to a Michigan law passed by voters that bars "preferential treatment" to students based on race. Separately in a second case, the court must decide whether race relations — in the South, particularly — have improved to the point that federal laws protecting minority voting rights are no longer warranted.


There is a very different Environment in the Southern States than when the Civil Rights Act on Voting passed.

The Klan is mostly made up of Washed Out Losers that's mostly too busy killing each other and using Meth, Coke, Ice, and committing Violent Felonies to bother any other group in Mass. They are still a threat mind you; just not organized.

Minorities are more often voted to the Various Offices that have Oversight of the Vote, and Minorities are Poll Watchers and filling out the Voter Forms for Voting; and finding Cases of Voter Suppression is getting much harder, unless you stoop to the insane stories that even Minority Groups have a hard time Not to Laugh Off.

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Mon 04/01/13 02:48 PM
It only made National News because of the Naked Part; other than that it would have been ignored.

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Mon 04/01/13 02:42 PM
List of Gun Stories that Will Not be on the Local T.V. or Cable News outside the local market.

FL - Off Duty PCB Police Officer Shoots Would-Be Robber http://ypsine.ws/13MnH3n

MA - One Killed in Attempted Home Invasion in Huntingtown http://ypsine.ws/13MnBJ2

PA - Father of 2 Shoots, Kills Home Intruder http://ypsine.ws/13MjNrw

PA - Burglar shot after homeowner interrupts home invasion http://ypsine.ws/13Ma6JB

WA - Burglars who cut through wall of business confronted by armed man http://ypsine.ws/XkS0LK

FL - Police name homeowner, alleged burglar in northwest Dade shooting http://ypsine.ws/Xy2ZAx

OK - Burglary victim fires shots at intruder http://ypsine.ws/XkS3Hp

PA - Police say man killed brother in self-defense http://ypsine.ws/XkRZYe

NC - Woman shoots at intruders in Elm City home http://ypsine.ws/XkRX2w

Can you see what these stories have in common? They All Involve Someone Using a Gun in Self-Defense.

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Sun 03/31/13 12:23 PM

I went by Walmart to get some 9mm and .22 LR but the shelves were bare.:cry:


It's all the New Gun Owners, and people Stockpiling on Ammo; it's even hard to find Reloading Supplies at the moment.

Ammo Plants are running 24/7 just to fill Backorders and they are saying that it may be June or July before the Supply Chain gets back to normal.

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Sun 03/31/13 12:07 PM

http://inthereddest.com/?p=1888

quoted for emphasis :

'We have laws, such as those prohibiting drunk driving, for a reason; they protect society. The real “entitlement” culture that’s harming America isn’t that of food stamps or Social Security, but that of far-right that supports the belief that individual citizens should have nearly unlimited liberty, regardless of the consequences to other individuals or the rest of society. If the “right” you believe you’re “entitled” to causes more harm for society as a whole than it does good, or poses a direct threat to the freedom and pursuit of happiness of other people, then you are in fact not entitled to that right. Where that line is drawn between personal liberty and the general welfare is a fair and interesting conversation, but some things are just obvious.'


of course, the statement about things being 'obvious' is one I disagree with,, its a very subjecvtive perspective to determine what is 'obvious'


John Locke dealt with this very issue in his Treaties on Civil Government; which is a favored book among the Tea Party Members, so if you want to know how your Tea Party Friends think, it would be worth reading.

Locke's Point was when a Person is on His/Her Own Property, S/he is the Master and could do as s/he pleases; once s/he left His/Her Own Property into the Public, or the Property of another, he would have to conform his/her behavior to the Law, even the Law of another Property Holder as Everyone is the Law Over Their Own Property.

In the Pubic, as Everyone has a say in the Law, the Law Must Apply to All Equally; If One May Speak on a Topic of his/her own choosing, Then All May Speak.

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Sun 03/31/13 11:29 AM

http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=41671&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=chronicle-march30&utm_campaign=20130330social-newsletter-will-you-turn-over-your-guns-blog-post&utm_source=EmailDirect.com&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20130330-Chronicle+Campaign

An Ever Growing Number of Law Abiding Gun Owner, and Law Enforcement Agents are Declaring that They Will Not Comply with the New Gun Laws Which Infringes on the Second Amendment.

From California to New York State, and States in between, Law Abiding Citizens & Law Enforcement Agents are telling Law Makers to "Take a Hike" in regards to New Gun Laws.

The Day that the Government comes to Unconstitutionally take My Guns, they will get the Bullets First; one at a time.

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Sat 03/30/13 10:46 PM
New Government Bureau to oversee New Visa "W" that will bring in as many as 200K Low Skill workers a Year starting in 2015 as part of the Immigration Reform Bill; if the Government Runs it, What could go Wrong? Rhetorical Question there; the answer of course, Plenty.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/30/politics/immigration-guest-workers/index.html

The Good Points, More Immigrants would find it easier to enter Legally; Starting in 2015, or later as Government is always Slow, Inept, Clumsy, Mismanaged, and Corrupt.

The Bad Points; A New Government Bureau that will be Overpriced yet Underfunded filled with Lazy Government Workers who will move like Frozen Malaises and all the previous problems that I had already mentioned.

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Sat 03/30/13 01:16 PM






Frederick Douglass learned that there Consequences to listening and not listening to the advice of others.

In his Autobios, the Advice he often got from other Slaves was that Running Away wasn't a Good Thing because Only Master Could Provide; he rejected that advice, and we all give thanks that he did.

He was told Not to Name Names in his First Autobio, he did and had to Flee to England to remain Free, from where his Freedom was bought and he was given the money to start his own Paper; against the advise of his Fellow Abolitionist.

He was advised to "Trust the Better Educated Abolitionist", even that of the Black Abolitionist who Grew Up in the North and attended the Universities; he Turned Down that Advice and became one of the Most Powerful Advocates Against Slavery & Jim Crow.

There were times he paid a steep and painful price for Not Listening to the Advice given by others, even lost some Dear Friends over it; But he Moved Mountains by Deciding for Himself how to Live His Own Life.


One thing about Douglass, he made a lot of Abolitions upset with him because he would speak out against their "Now, Now Little Runaway, You Just Sit Back and Let Us Take Care of You" attitude; the same sort of attitude that's behind today's Welfare & Nanny State.

Because Douglass was his own man, many Abolitionists Mock, Ridiculed, Belittled and made Fun of the him; as I look around, the only Douglass-Like Men I see Standing out in the Black Community are Herman Cain and Dr. Ben Carson along with a few others, and they're getting the same Treatment.

It is amazing what one learns from Reading Books; Life & Times of Frederick Douglass, by Frederick Douglass is less than a $1 as a E-Book and well worth the read; if more Blacks would Read Douglass, and Booker T. Washington, the Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world would be Ignored.


People do read about frederick douglas and some people do 'ignore' jessie jackson and al sharpton

however, others realize that even all three of these different men would have agreed on some things,, and choose to listen to what makes sense and discard the rest, regardless of who is speaking,,,,


People only read Douglass' First Autobio (A Good Read) Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass; he wrote two others, after he had a shift in his Political Beliefs and altered his argument; which made a lot of his Abolitionists Friends turn on him while he was becoming even more effective in fighting Slavery.

People don't read "My Bondage My Freedom" or "Life and Times of Frederick Douglass" (Both Books are only $1 as an E-Book and well worth the Read) which he wrote After Declaring the U.S. Constitution is One of the "Greatest Anti-Slavery Document Ever Written" that he had Ever Read; I wonder why that isn't taught in Schools? You should have heard the Outrage when my son wrote a Book Report on Life & Times as his History Teacher was Spitting Mad that My Son wrote a Report on the Wrong Book by Douglass; but he wrote it about 10yrs before he died and it was his Final Autobio.

If Frederick Douglass was alive today, and I'm basing this on his Autobios, he'd be calling the Welfare State Slavery; Jackson, Sharpton, and the NAACP would be giving him the same Treatment as Herman Cain & Ben Carson.


Herman Cain and Ben carson are no frederick douglas,,,


Would Frederick Douglass be welcomed by the persons of the Black Community as it is now is, or would he be called an Oreo, an Uncle Tom, a Sellout, and all the other names that are thrown around by the Political Left; just as Douglass was Ridiculed and Mocked in his own day when his views on the Constitution took a 180 because he took the time to read it, Madison's notes on the Convention, and the Federalists Papers?

If some Sky Spirit sent Douglass back to live among us, The Jackson, Sharpton, & the NAACP would set out to Discredit Everything he Ever Did for Civil Rights & the Ending of Slavery.



is there some reason that the 'black community' would all have to welcome douglas or any other person

some would agree with him and some wouldnt, some would be civilized about it and some would behave ignorantly,,,


and I dont know of anyone whom jackson, sharpton, or the naacp has tried to discredit 'everything' they have done

,,,,,people agree, people disagree,,,'the black community' is full of people like any other,,,


Just look at what they do to Herman Cain, Ben Carson, the Members of the Black Chamber of Commerce and Other Blacks that don't tow their "Politically Correct" line for More Government Intrusion; just consider what they say and Treat Law Abiding Blacks who join the Tea Party or may Own Guns for Self-Protection and join groups like the NRA while at the same time stand up for some of the Worst Elements within the Black Community as a whole as they demand even More Chains to keep their Fellow Blacks dependent on their own Wisdom.

When was the last time Sharpton, Jackson, the NAACP and others of the like held up a Black Man of Accomplishment, Principles, & Ethics over some Gang Banger in the News who was Accused of a Crime? Show me Your Heroes, I'll Show You what You Value.

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Fri 03/29/13 10:40 PM




Frederick Douglass learned that there Consequences to listening and not listening to the advice of others.

In his Autobios, the Advice he often got from other Slaves was that Running Away wasn't a Good Thing because Only Master Could Provide; he rejected that advice, and we all give thanks that he did.

He was told Not to Name Names in his First Autobio, he did and had to Flee to England to remain Free, from where his Freedom was bought and he was given the money to start his own Paper; against the advise of his Fellow Abolitionist.

He was advised to "Trust the Better Educated Abolitionist", even that of the Black Abolitionist who Grew Up in the North and attended the Universities; he Turned Down that Advice and became one of the Most Powerful Advocates Against Slavery & Jim Crow.

There were times he paid a steep and painful price for Not Listening to the Advice given by others, even lost some Dear Friends over it; But he Moved Mountains by Deciding for Himself how to Live His Own Life.


One thing about Douglass, he made a lot of Abolitions upset with him because he would speak out against their "Now, Now Little Runaway, You Just Sit Back and Let Us Take Care of You" attitude; the same sort of attitude that's behind today's Welfare & Nanny State.

Because Douglass was his own man, many Abolitionists Mock, Ridiculed, Belittled and made Fun of the him; as I look around, the only Douglass-Like Men I see Standing out in the Black Community are Herman Cain and Dr. Ben Carson along with a few others, and they're getting the same Treatment.

It is amazing what one learns from Reading Books; Life & Times of Frederick Douglass, by Frederick Douglass is less than a $1 as a E-Book and well worth the read; if more Blacks would Read Douglass, and Booker T. Washington, the Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world would be Ignored.


People do read about frederick douglas and some people do 'ignore' jessie jackson and al sharpton

however, others realize that even all three of these different men would have agreed on some things,, and choose to listen to what makes sense and discard the rest, regardless of who is speaking,,,,


People only read Douglass' First Autobio (A Good Read) Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass; he wrote two others, after he had a shift in his Political Beliefs and altered his argument; which made a lot of his Abolitionists Friends turn on him while he was becoming even more effective in fighting Slavery.

People don't read "My Bondage My Freedom" or "Life and Times of Frederick Douglass" (Both Books are only $1 as an E-Book and well worth the Read) which he wrote After Declaring the U.S. Constitution is One of the "Greatest Anti-Slavery Document Ever Written" that he had Ever Read; I wonder why that isn't taught in Schools? You should have heard the Outrage when my son wrote a Book Report on Life & Times as his History Teacher was Spitting Mad that My Son wrote a Report on the Wrong Book by Douglass; but he wrote it about 10yrs before he died and it was his Final Autobio.

If Frederick Douglass was alive today, and I'm basing this on his Autobios, he'd be calling the Welfare State Slavery; Jackson, Sharpton, and the NAACP would be giving him the same Treatment as Herman Cain & Ben Carson.


Herman Cain and Ben carson are no frederick douglas,,,


Would Frederick Douglass be welcomed by the persons of the Black Community as it is now is, or would he be called an Oreo, an Uncle Tom, a Sellout, and all the other names that are thrown around by the Political Left; just as Douglass was Ridiculed and Mocked in his own day when his views on the Constitution took a 180 because he took the time to read it, Madison's notes on the Convention, and the Federalists Papers?

If some Sky Spirit sent Douglass back to live among us, The Jackson, Sharpton, & the NAACP would set out to Discredit Everything he Ever Did for Civil Rights & the Ending of Slavery.

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Fri 03/29/13 04:44 PM


Frederick Douglass learned that there Consequences to listening and not listening to the advice of others.

In his Autobios, the Advice he often got from other Slaves was that Running Away wasn't a Good Thing because Only Master Could Provide; he rejected that advice, and we all give thanks that he did.

He was told Not to Name Names in his First Autobio, he did and had to Flee to England to remain Free, from where his Freedom was bought and he was given the money to start his own Paper; against the advise of his Fellow Abolitionist.

He was advised to "Trust the Better Educated Abolitionist", even that of the Black Abolitionist who Grew Up in the North and attended the Universities; he Turned Down that Advice and became one of the Most Powerful Advocates Against Slavery & Jim Crow.

There were times he paid a steep and painful price for Not Listening to the Advice given by others, even lost some Dear Friends over it; But he Moved Mountains by Deciding for Himself how to Live His Own Life.


One thing about Douglass, he made a lot of Abolitions upset with him because he would speak out against their "Now, Now Little Runaway, You Just Sit Back and Let Us Take Care of You" attitude; the same sort of attitude that's behind today's Welfare & Nanny State.

Because Douglass was his own man, many Abolitionists Mock, Ridiculed, Belittled and made Fun of the him; as I look around, the only Douglass-Like Men I see Standing out in the Black Community are Herman Cain and Dr. Ben Carson along with a few others, and they're getting the same Treatment.

It is amazing what one learns from Reading Books; Life & Times of Frederick Douglass, by Frederick Douglass is less than a $1 as a E-Book and well worth the read; if more Blacks would Read Douglass, and Booker T. Washington, the Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world would be Ignored.


People do read about frederick douglas and some people do 'ignore' jessie jackson and al sharpton

however, others realize that even all three of these different men would have agreed on some things,, and choose to listen to what makes sense and discard the rest, regardless of who is speaking,,,,


People only read Douglass' First Autobio (A Good Read) Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass; he wrote two others, after he had a shift in his Political Beliefs and altered his argument; which made a lot of his Abolitionists Friends turn on him while he was becoming even more effective in fighting Slavery.

People don't read "My Bondage My Freedom" or "Life and Times of Frederick Douglass" (Both Books are only $1 as an E-Book and well worth the Read) which he wrote After Declaring the U.S. Constitution is One of the "Greatest Anti-Slavery Document Ever Written" that he had Ever Read; I wonder why that isn't taught in Schools? You should have heard the Outrage when my son wrote a Book Report on Life & Times as his History Teacher was Spitting Mad that My Son wrote a Report on the Wrong Book by Douglass; but he wrote it about 10yrs before he died and it was his Final Autobio.

If Frederick Douglass was alive today, and I'm basing this on his Autobios, he'd be calling the Welfare State Slavery; Jackson, Sharpton, and the NAACP would be giving him the same Treatment as Herman Cain & Ben Carson.