thank you adj4u..(disorrono's mindless spam)
these are important things that need to be in the open and noboby should be trying to silence them..for that would be unamericanlol

Lindyy says:

Well, to me President Bush has done a great job. When you have the media despising you and only reporting the negative and taking everything out of context, and the left wing liberals attcking every move you make, what can one expect?

Pres. Bush is also a great person, great individual, great citizen, great Christian, people with selective memory forget he went to Harvard and Yale, one cannot be stupid to make that accomplishment, he is an extremely compassionate person, how manyh people know of the good he is doing in Africa? None probably.

When Pope John Paul the II was alive the 2 most hated men in America were, and for the same reason - their extreme devotion to their Christian faith and outspoken belief in God were --------- Pope John Paul II and President George W. Bush!

Matthew 5:11-12
11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.


Right smack, dab in the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus said this would happen right from the start.

Matthew 10:32-33:
32"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

You will never hear President George W. Bush or any Pope deny Jesus!

So, people, hate all you want.

How many people here can say that their rewards in Heaven will be great? President Bush can.

Lindyy





Matthew 5:39
39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

following Christ is he/are they?

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some sign ideas for the march:

support our war-profiteer mercinaries

a 3'x5' flag with corporate icons in the place of the stars

Question U.S. Foreign Policy

Ron Paul How A True Patriot Acts

Re-Legalize Freedom Ron Paul 2008

"JUST COME HOME" Ron Paul 2008

We Do This For FREE

Jokes Over Bring Back the Constitution

Win A Free Country Vote Ron Paul In the Primaries Offer Expires May 2008

Obey the Constitution Vote Ron Paul

Ron Paul/ Get a Free Country AND Your Money Back

Who Owns YOUR Candidate? opensecrets.org

Political Virgin 4 Ron Paul

When All Else Fails... Read the Instructions (Pictured Constitution)

'08 RON the Incorruptible '08

Hobbits For Ron Paul

Free Speech: Keep Your Taser I've Got My 2nd Amendment
National Defense Not Offense / Google Ron Paul

Who Is Ron Paul?

Patriotism is Not Obedience

Ron Paul 2008 Peace & Liberty USA

Get Inspired RonPaul2008.com

Less Tax Ron Paul

Ron Paul Liberate America

We All Support the Troops/ Who Do the Troops Support?

STOP Corporate Welfare & Political Corruption RonPaul2008

FEAR CONTROLS

Ron Paul Country RonPaul2008.com

No WMD? Ron Paul Told Congress in 2002

Ron Paul Speaks Truth to Power

Fighting for Freedom www.ronpaul2008.com

Restore The Republic

No: War, Fed Resv, IRS, Natl ID

Yes: Freedom, Liberty, Truth

JOIN US RonPaul.Meetup.com

Families 4 Ron Paul

Restore Habeas Corpus

Rosa Parks & Ron Paul Freedom Fighters

Old School Republican Ron Paul

Straight Talk Not Double Talk RonPaul2008

'08 Think Ron Paul For President '08

Picture of Underdog ?

Say Yes To Dr. No

An Honest Paulitician

Real Men Heart Freedom RonPaul2008

Honk If You Love Freedom Ron Paul Revolution

Freedom or Fascism? You Can't Have Both RonPaul2008

Gun Owners 4 Ron Paul

We Are Not Paid To Be Here

Democrats For Ron Paul

Stand Up For Your Rights Ron Paul 2008

Operation American Freedom

Dr. Ron Paul Cured My Apathy

Time For a Revolution

Wash Your Own Brain

Washington Needs a Dr. Not a Lawyer RonPaul2008.com

End the I.R.S. Ron Paul

Vote Like the Constitution Matters Ron Paul

Never Voted to Raise Taxes Ron Paul 2008

Protect Our Borders Not Iraq's

YouTube Ron Paul

History Will Remember 2008 As the Year The People Saved America RonPaul2008.com

Thanks to the OregonionsForRonPaul.com

any other ideas, post'em and share!

WTF is goin on with our leaders/country, im gonna make more signs than i can hold for other people..

but what if you say something that causes someone to research and talk about something else that is spread til the exponential factor wakes up the whole world..or they see our search trends and decide its time to pull the plug on the economy before we start organizin..whichever comes first ;)

demoblicans; clinton or obama
republicrats; mccain or ron paul(really a libertarian, wants liberty for people not just corporations and elite)

it doesn't have to be OUR servicemen these days remember, we hire the mercinaries from other countries that need the job to save their starving families. they'd kill anyone they had to to get payed and feed their families..and yea it would be more difficult nowadays to battle a trained military but you keep takin chunks out of them and they won't want to risk their lives, see they're just there for the money and there is a point when it's not worth it. but for the other side there is no point when it becomes not worth it because if it stopped it would only get worse..not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog!

nobody cept the elitelol (banking/royal families)

nobody cept the elitelol (banking/royal families)

that dood is conditioned to think that dissent means you hate the government!? and he hasn't seen it, cause if he had he would be as concerned as the rest of us for our country

..how could bush initiate a zionist movement when it began in the late 19th century long before? forget about zionism, it's not the main picture when you pan back. bush and most politicians are just a pr puppet for the international bankers. does anyone really think that the people who control the worlds money wouldn't want to further solidify their power with a one world government?

globalists' conspiracies Are the cause of most of the world's problems, bush is just a figure head/pr puppet. look below the pyramid on the back of the dollar, translates " new order of the ages" or alternatively " new world order". those who have grown to control and mediate the nation's currencies use this power to money-pulate confusion and chaos in societies across the world to an exponential point when we will be offered safety in an ultimate order, a one world governing body. think about it, back in the day,if you were a group of the richest humans. you would be thinking about how you could keep that power within your elite families, and even want to expand that power to lessen the likelyhood of lossing any of it to the people under you..what could you do? well you could have arranged marriages to keep the royalty tight. done. you could gain control of the issuance of monies that the people/economies under you would be dependent on. done. finally you would have to get every citizen from every country to accept you ruling over their country/world. Question is how could you get citizens to give up their countries sovereignty and trust you? 2 possible ways; force and persuasion. force being the more arduous path.(every empire has tried that one) But..already having the control of the worlds monies, the persuasion route is much easier over alittle time. all you have to do is create confusion a couple of times to bring about a compounded knot of chaos down the line that can't be understood. the people below your royal position will then be more and more likely to allow you to rule over them all, because they will be divided, confused, broken down, scared for their safety with everyone fighting and want your protection and solutions to "just make everything better"

ron paul

there are some of Us People on here that are being confused by the left-wing right-wing same bird system..on this topic this madison guy is not holding a liberal stance, he is for the Conservation of our country's constitutional ways..A conservative stance! let's stop and think about how We The People have been repeatedly divided in history by the elite using their polar 2 party system to divide us then effectively slip in solutions that are in the stepping stone direction toward their globalist wishes. this is known as the "hegelian-marx dialectic" and it controls society like a herder directs sheep, without direct force..except our flock is so huge that we can't even tell that we are moving in a desired direction.

armed forces..lol

FBI Gives Private Contractors 'Shoot to Kill' Powers
by moonwolf | February 10, 2008 at 01:43 pm | 151 views | add comment
Infragard Seal
by moonwolf
4 days ago | 4360 views

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The FBI has a new set of eyes and ears, and they're being told to protect their infrastructure at any cost. They can even kill without repercussion. Welcome Infragard the private corporate spies and police to your workplace and neighborhood, but realize they answer only to their handlers at the FBI, and only after the fact, their communications are outside the purvue of the Freedom of Information Act and members can shoot to kill with impunity.


Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does -- and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law. InfraGard is "a child of the FBI," says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm.

InfraGard started in Cleveland back in 1996, when the private sector there cooperated with the FBI to investigate cyber threats.

"Then the FBI cloned it," says Phyllis Schneck, chairman of the board of directors of the InfraGard National Members Alliance, and the prime mover behind the growth of InfraGard over the last several years.

InfraGard itself is still an FBI operation, with FBI agents in each state overseeing the local InfraGard chapters. (There are now eighty-six of them.) The alliance is a nonprofit organization of private sector InfraGard members.

"We are the owners, operators, and experts of our critical infrastructure, from the CEO of a large company in agriculture or high finance to the guy who turns the valve at the water utility," says Schneck, who by day is the vice president of research integration at Secure Computing.

"At its most basic level, InfraGard is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the private sector," the InfraGard website states. "InfraGard chapters are geographically linked with FBI Field Office territories."

In November 2001, InfraGard had around 1,700 members. As of late January, InfraGard had 23,682 members, according to its website, www.infragard.net, which adds that "350 of our nation's Fortune 500 have a representative in InfraGard."

To join, each person must be sponsored by "an existing InfraGard member, chapter, or partner organization." The FBI then vets the applicant. On the application form, prospective members are asked which aspect of the critical infrastructure their organization deals with. These include: agriculture, banking and finance, the chemical industry, defense, energy, food, information and telecommunications, law enforcement, public health, and transportation.

FBI Director Robert Mueller addressed an InfraGard convention on August 9, 2005. At that time, the group had less than half as many members as it does today. "To date, there are more than 11,000 members of InfraGard," he said. "From our perspective that amounts to 11,000 contacts . . . and 11,000 partners in our mission to protect America." He added a little later, "Those of you in the private sector are the first line of defense."

He urged InfraGard members to contact the FBI if they "note suspicious activity or an unusual event." And he said they could sic the FBI on "disgruntled employees who will use knowledge gained on the job against their employers."

In an interview with InfraGard after the conference, which is featured prominently on the InfraGard members' website, Mueller says: "It's a great program."

The ACLU is not so sanguine.

"There is evidence that InfraGard may be closer to a corporate TIPS program, turning private-sector corporations -- some of which may be in a position to observe the activities of millions of individual customers -- into surrogate eyes and ears for the FBI," the ACLU warned in its August 2004 report The Surveillance-Industrial Complex: How the American Government Is Conscripting Businesses and Individuals in the Construction of a Surveillance Society.

InfraGard is not readily accessible to the general public. Its communications with the FBI and Homeland Security are beyond the reach of the Freedom of Information Act under the "trade secrets" exemption, its website says. And any conversation with the public or the media is supposed to be carefully rehearsed.

"The interests of InfraGard must be protected whenever presented to non-InfraGard members," the website states. "During interviews with members of the press, controlling the image of InfraGard being presented can be difficult. Proper preparation for the interview will minimize the risk of embarrassment. . . . The InfraGard leadership and the local FBI representative should review the submitted questions, agree on the predilection of the answers, and identify the appropriate interviewee. . . . Tailor answers to the expected audience. . . . Questions concerning sensitive information should be avoided."

This article was too long to publish here so follow the link "Go to original story" below.

Source: alternet.org
their website is infragard.net

WTF!

FBI Gives Private Contractors 'Shoot to Kill' Powers
by moonwolf | February 10, 2008 at 01:43 pm | 151 views | add comment
Infragard Seal
by moonwolf
4 days ago | 4360 views

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The FBI has a new set of eyes and ears, and they're being told to protect their infrastructure at any cost. They can even kill without repercussion. Welcome Infragard the private corporate spies and police to your workplace and neighborhood, but realize they answer only to their handlers at the FBI, and only after the fact, their communications are outside the purvue of the Freedom of Information Act and members can shoot to kill with impunity.


Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does -- and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law. InfraGard is "a child of the FBI," says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm.

InfraGard started in Cleveland back in 1996, when the private sector there cooperated with the FBI to investigate cyber threats.

"Then the FBI cloned it," says Phyllis Schneck, chairman of the board of directors of the InfraGard National Members Alliance, and the prime mover behind the growth of InfraGard over the last several years.

InfraGard itself is still an FBI operation, with FBI agents in each state overseeing the local InfraGard chapters. (There are now eighty-six of them.) The alliance is a nonprofit organization of private sector InfraGard members.

"We are the owners, operators, and experts of our critical infrastructure, from the CEO of a large company in agriculture or high finance to the guy who turns the valve at the water utility," says Schneck, who by day is the vice president of research integration at Secure Computing.

"At its most basic level, InfraGard is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the private sector," the InfraGard website states. "InfraGard chapters are geographically linked with FBI Field Office territories."

In November 2001, InfraGard had around 1,700 members. As of late January, InfraGard had 23,682 members, according to its website, www.infragard.net, which adds that "350 of our nation's Fortune 500 have a representative in InfraGard."

To join, each person must be sponsored by "an existing InfraGard member, chapter, or partner organization." The FBI then vets the applicant. On the application form, prospective members are asked which aspect of the critical infrastructure their organization deals with. These include: agriculture, banking and finance, the chemical industry, defense, energy, food, information and telecommunications, law enforcement, public health, and transportation.

FBI Director Robert Mueller addressed an InfraGard convention on August 9, 2005. At that time, the group had less than half as many members as it does today. "To date, there are more than 11,000 members of InfraGard," he said. "From our perspective that amounts to 11,000 contacts . . . and 11,000 partners in our mission to protect America." He added a little later, "Those of you in the private sector are the first line of defense."

He urged InfraGard members to contact the FBI if they "note suspicious activity or an unusual event." And he said they could sic the FBI on "disgruntled employees who will use knowledge gained on the job against their employers."

In an interview with InfraGard after the conference, which is featured prominently on the InfraGard members' website, Mueller says: "It's a great program."

The ACLU is not so sanguine.

"There is evidence that InfraGard may be closer to a corporate TIPS program, turning private-sector corporations -- some of which may be in a position to observe the activities of millions of individual customers -- into surrogate eyes and ears for the FBI," the ACLU warned in its August 2004 report The Surveillance-Industrial Complex: How the American Government Is Conscripting Businesses and Individuals in the Construction of a Surveillance Society.

InfraGard is not readily accessible to the general public. Its communications with the FBI and Homeland Security are beyond the reach of the Freedom of Information Act under the "trade secrets" exemption, its website says. And any conversation with the public or the media is supposed to be carefully rehearsed.

"The interests of InfraGard must be protected whenever presented to non-InfraGard members," the website states. "During interviews with members of the press, controlling the image of InfraGard being presented can be difficult. Proper preparation for the interview will minimize the risk of embarrassment. . . . The InfraGard leadership and the local FBI representative should review the submitted questions, agree on the predilection of the answers, and identify the appropriate interviewee. . . . Tailor answers to the expected audience. . . . Questions concerning sensitive information should be avoided."

This article was too long to publish here so follow the link "Go to original story" below.

Source: alternet.org

their website is infragard.net check it

it's gettin worse, and in a hurry.

FBI Gives Private Contractors 'Shoot to Kill' Powers
by moonwolf | February 10, 2008 at 01:43 pm | 151 views | add comment
Infragard Seal
by moonwolf
4 days ago | 4360 views

Upload Photos, Videos and Audio
The FBI has a new set of eyes and ears, and they're being told to protect their infrastructure at any cost. They can even kill without repercussion. Welcome Infragard the private corporate spies and police to your workplace and neighborhood, but realize they answer only to their handlers at the FBI, and only after the fact, their communications are outside the purvue of the Freedom of Information Act and members can shoot to kill with impunity.


Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does -- and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law. InfraGard is "a child of the FBI," says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm.

InfraGard started in Cleveland back in 1996, when the private sector there cooperated with the FBI to investigate cyber threats.

"Then the FBI cloned it," says Phyllis Schneck, chairman of the board of directors of the InfraGard National Members Alliance, and the prime mover behind the growth of InfraGard over the last several years.

InfraGard itself is still an FBI operation, with FBI agents in each state overseeing the local InfraGard chapters. (There are now eighty-six of them.) The alliance is a nonprofit organization of private sector InfraGard members.

"We are the owners, operators, and experts of our critical infrastructure, from the CEO of a large company in agriculture or high finance to the guy who turns the valve at the water utility," says Schneck, who by day is the vice president of research integration at Secure Computing.

"At its most basic level, InfraGard is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the private sector," the InfraGard website states. "InfraGard chapters are geographically linked with FBI Field Office territories."

In November 2001, InfraGard had around 1,700 members. As of late January, InfraGard had 23,682 members, according to its website, www.infragard.net, which adds that "350 of our nation's Fortune 500 have a representative in InfraGard."

To join, each person must be sponsored by "an existing InfraGard member, chapter, or partner organization." The FBI then vets the applicant. On the application form, prospective members are asked which aspect of the critical infrastructure their organization deals with. These include: agriculture, banking and finance, the chemical industry, defense, energy, food, information and telecommunications, law enforcement, public health, and transportation.

FBI Director Robert Mueller addressed an InfraGard convention on August 9, 2005. At that time, the group had less than half as many members as it does today. "To date, there are more than 11,000 members of InfraGard," he said. "From our perspective that amounts to 11,000 contacts . . . and 11,000 partners in our mission to protect America." He added a little later, "Those of you in the private sector are the first line of defense."

He urged InfraGard members to contact the FBI if they "note suspicious activity or an unusual event." And he said they could sic the FBI on "disgruntled employees who will use knowledge gained on the job against their employers."

In an interview with InfraGard after the conference, which is featured prominently on the InfraGard members' website, Mueller says: "It's a great program."

The ACLU is not so sanguine.

"There is evidence that InfraGard may be closer to a corporate TIPS program, turning private-sector corporations -- some of which may be in a position to observe the activities of millions of individual customers -- into surrogate eyes and ears for the FBI," the ACLU warned in its August 2004 report The Surveillance-Industrial Complex: How the American Government Is Conscripting Businesses and Individuals in the Construction of a Surveillance Society.

InfraGard is not readily accessible to the general public. Its communications with the FBI and Homeland Security are beyond the reach of the Freedom of Information Act under the "trade secrets" exemption, its website says. And any conversation with the public or the media is supposed to be carefully rehearsed.

This article was too long to publish here so follow the link "Go to original story" below.

Source: alternet.org

infragard's website is www.infragard.net

sucks taht we have to give our votes to be counted by a questionable electronic machine that is made and then tabulated by a private corporation..if "the love of money is the root of all evil" and a corporation's soul purpose is profit, then we can deduce that our elections are being controlled by a evil corporation..screw diebold voting machine corporation!

yess, well said!