the oil' industries' profit are one of the many results of globalism, rich get richer and the poor starve..although the process does seem to have an exponential factor driving it now.

right on z, i saw a wheat grass lawn once.they're beautiful and then you got super smoothie every mornin.we could leave those flowers,imean dandylions there..they have more potassium in their leaves than bananas, more vit. a than carrots and more calcium than milk. they can be eaten spring and summer tastin as good as spinach and all for free. we can eat them all year round if you don't mind bitterness or steaming them for 30-45 mins. or we can also wrap them in a net or tshirt while in the field and submerge it under a clear running stream for 24 hours, gotta put a biggerrock on the opening to keep it put. i can't wait til spring yeayeay

news..dumb? i agree the 5 corporations that dominate our media are pretty lame, but staying informed in general makes you smarter..

this is who dr paul is talking about
(site: www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3773019.stm )

Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory

By Jonathan Duffy
BBC News Online Magazine


The Bilderberg group, an elite coterie of Western thinkers and power-brokers, has been accused of fixing the fate of the world behind closed doors. As the organisation marks its 50th anniversary, rumours are more rife than ever.
Given its reputation as perhaps the most powerful organisation in the world, the Bilderberg group doesn't go a bundle on its switchboard operations.

Telephone inquiries are met with an impersonal female voice - the Dutch equivalent of the BT Callminder woman - reciting back the number and inviting callers to "leave a message after the tone".

Anyone who accidentally dialled the number would probably think they had stumbled on just another residential answer machine.


Leiden in Holland, the inauspicious base of the Bilderberg group
But behind this ultra-modest façade lies one of the most controversial and hotly-debated alliances of our times.

On Thursday the Bilderberg group marks its 50th anniversary with the start of its yearly meeting.

For four days some of the West's chief political movers, business leaders, bankers, industrialists and strategic thinkers will hunker down in a five-star hotel in northern Italy to talk about global issues.

What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique.

Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted.

The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website.

DISCREET AND ELITE
This year Bilderberg has announced a list of attendees
They include BP chief John Browne, US Senator John Edwards, World Bank president James Wolfensohn and Mrs Bill Gates

In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is largely decided by Bilderberg.

In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance.

And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical.

A former journalist, Mr Gosling runs a campaign against the group from his home in Bristol, UK.

"My main problem is the secrecy. When so many people with so much power get together in one place I think we are owed an explanation of what is going on.


Timothy McVeigh was among those who believed the conspiracy theory
Mr Gosling seizes on a quote from Will Hutton, the British economist and a former Bilderberg delegate, who likened it to the annual WEF gathering where "the consensus established is the backdrop against which policy is made worldwide".

"One of the first places I heard about the determination of US forces to attack Iraq was from leaks that came out of the 2002 Bilderberg meeting," says Mr Gosling.

But "privacy, rather than secrecy", is key to such a meeting says Financial Times journalist Martin Wolf, who has been invited several times in a non-reporting role.

"The idea that such meetings cannot be held in private is fundamentally totalitarian," he says. "It's not an executive body; no decisions are taken there."

As an up-and-coming statesmen in the 1950s, Denis Healey, who went on to become a Labour chancellor, was one of the four founding members of Bilderberg (which was named after the hotel in Holland where the first meeting was held in 1954).


The alternative - the WEF welcomes journalists
His response to claims that Bilderberg exerts a shadowy hand on the global tiller is met with characteristic bluntness. "Crap!"

"There's absolutely nothing in it. We never sought to reach a consensus on the big issues at Bilderberg. It's simply a place for discussion," says Lord Healey.

Formed in the spirit of post-war trans-Atlantic co-operation, the idea behind Bilderberg was that future wars could be prevented by bringing power-brokers together in an informal setting away from prying eyes.

"Bilderberg is the most useful international group I ever attended. The confidentiality enabled people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions.

"In my experience the most useful meetings are those when one is free to speak openly and honestly. It's not unusual at all. Cabinet meetings in all countries are held behind closed doors and the minutes are not published."

That activists have seized on Bilderberg is no surprise to Alasdair Spark, an expert in conspiracy theories.

"The idea that a shadowy clique is running the world is nothing new. For hundreds of years people have believed the world is governed by a cabal of Jews.

"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."



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chill out marie i was agreeing with you..i looked up your word constitionalist but it only had constitutionalism which is what a constitutionalist like ron paul believes in.

honestly 2 seconds, just read their title page..it's news it's not gonna bite

me too, i offended people even before i saw these things on the news recently, but i'll try to behave myself..

i wish i had that kind of money, im strugglin to pay the bills like everyone

you haven't read the news..cut and paste 2 seconds please

you haven't read the news..cut and paste 2 seconds

instead of continuing to spread hate and prejudice why don't you cut and paste the proof..then we can talk like civilized people..you're right, i did come off quite frank, and im sorry to have alarmed you or anyone else..i just care about us.
plus im not used to this cyber network thing, i never kept one of those myspaces

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This con·sti·tu·tion·al·ism (kŏn'stĭ-tōō'shə-nə-lĭz'əm, -tyōō'-) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. Government in which power is distributed and limited by a system of laws that must be obeyed by the rulers.

man smo, you're right on about that globalization stuff..so many smart frikkin people on here, glad i just signed up for this, and it's free!

marie, im so glad that we can agree on something..your rundown on global warming was right on! im smiling(screw emoticons)

and i am not afraid, i am

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This peace·ful (pēs'fəl) Pronunciation Key
adj.
Undisturbed by strife, turmoil, or disagreement; tranquil.

and the truth is

WordNet - Cite This Source - Share This invigorating

adjective
imparting strength and vitality

and it couldn't hurt to start setting aside some food, afterall the economy isn't doin quite so hot.

ok with all due respect to you, it's not so crazy when it's all over the news..is it?

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3773019.stm
this is some proof for you sister, s and brothers cut and paste

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This ar·dent (är'dnt) Pronunciation Key
adj.
Expressing or characterized by warmth of feeling; passionate: an ardent lover.

I know, they are ardent..his "we the people", creativity driven campaign slogan is Rev-love-ution! (its spelled with a backwards love)You cant help but wonder why its growing at an exponential rate

lets see:
he's christian
he's for peace in the middle east the most
he's for peace here (medical marijuana)
he's for limited government and citicens' privacy
he's for no national id card (cut and paste this www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/11/real.id.ap/ if you haven't heard by now on the news.

it's not crazy when it's all Over the independent news media and has even made csnbc a few times that ol' lou and that Oberman dude were able to throw it in there for us. Here is PROOF cut and paste THESE!
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm
thats the bbcnews on the bilderberg group aka the Illuminati

www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38783
that one even lists them by name! lol

www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U
oh lou what would we have done without ya?

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de·ni·al (d-nl)
n.

An unconscious defense mechanism characterized by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings.

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