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Epiphany
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if god was so smart why didn't he give human stronger immune systems to fight off disease?
If god was so smart why didn't he drop jesus down before the great flood? if god was so smart why would he create a talking serpant to tempt his own creation?Then punish it. |
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Epiphany
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If God was so smart why did he give men nipples?We don't produce milk.
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Epiphany
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God created everything and science has figured out how God created things is still the belief in a God so that's claiming God exist.So to say they both work together is still a theist/creationist point of view. To say the universe is what it is and does what it does cause thats how it works and life evolved from elements that are on this planet is evolution. Which one is true?It's what you want to believe.I just refuse to believe that a magic man created everything in 6 days. I think it's BS to claim science and God should be as one to satisfy the masses cause thats still claiming God exist and there's no scientific data to even make the claim God exist. is there scientific theory to suggest that anything can develop from nothing and nowhere? it is totally feasible that SOMETHING or SOMEONE created all that science has discovered and more,,,, until we know under what circumstances something as complex as the universe and life can COME INTO BEING, science will always be just a tool to uncover pieces of what the puzzle looks like, and not an answer to where the puzzle came from in the first place,,, a 'link' does not mean an origin,,,, not proven,,, I can 'link' aids to homosexuals, would that be scientific evidence or PROOF that that is where it ACTUALLY started,, ? You are right about one thing, the evidence is out there. |
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Epiphany
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God created everything and science has figured out how God created things is still the belief in a God so that's claiming God exist.So to say they both work together is still a theist/creationist point of view. To say the universe is what it is and does what it does cause thats how it works and life evolved from elements that are on this planet is evolution. Which one is true?It's what you want to believe.I just refuse to believe that a magic man created everything in 6 days. I think it's BS to claim science and God should be as one to satisfy the masses cause thats still claiming God exist and there's no scientific data to even make the claim God exist. is there scientific theory to suggest that anything can develop from nothing and nowhere? it is totally feasible that SOMETHING or SOMEONE created all that science has discovered and more,,,, until we know under what circumstances something as complex as the universe and life can COME INTO BEING, science will always be just a tool to uncover pieces of what the puzzle looks like, and not an answer to where the puzzle came from in the first place,,, a 'link' does not mean an origin,,,, not proven,,, I can 'link' aids to homosexuals, would that be scientific evidence or PROOF that that is where it ACTUALLY started,, ? |
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Epiphany
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RKISIT
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Tue 06/19/12 11:35 AM
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God created everything and science has figured out how God created things is still the belief in a God so that's claiming God exist.So to say they both work together is still a theist/creationist point of view. To say the universe is what it is and does what it does cause thats how it works and life evolved from elements that are on this planet is evolution. Which one is true?It's what you want to believe.I just refuse to believe that a magic man created everything in 6 days. I think it's BS to claim science and God should be as one to satisfy the masses cause thats still claiming God exist and there's no scientific data to even make the claim God exist. is there scientific theory to suggest that anything can develop from nothing and nowhere? it is totally feasible that SOMETHING or SOMEONE created all that science has discovered and more,,,, until we know under what circumstances something as complex as the universe and life can COME INTO BEING, science will always be just a tool to uncover pieces of what the puzzle looks like, and not an answer to where the puzzle came from in the first place,,, a 'link' does not mean an origin,,,, |
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Epiphany
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God created everything and science has figured out how God created things is still the belief in a God so that's claiming God exist.So to say they both work together is still a theist/creationist point of view. To say the universe is what it is and does what it does cause thats how it works and life evolved from elements that are on this planet is evolution. Which one is true?It's what you want to believe.I just refuse to believe that a magic man created everything in 6 days. I think it's BS to claim science and God should be as one to satisfy the masses cause thats still claiming God exist and there's no scientific data to even make the claim God exist. is there scientific theory to suggest that anything can develop from nothing and nowhere? it is totally feasible that SOMETHING or SOMEONE created all that science has discovered and more,,,, until we know under what circumstances something as complex as the universe and life can COME INTO BEING, science will always be just a tool to uncover pieces of what the puzzle looks like, and not an answer to where the puzzle came from in the first place,,, |
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Who built the Moon?
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That's no moon. It's a space station. |
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Who built the Moon?
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Tue 06/19/12 06:41 AM
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Topic:
Epiphany
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RKISIT
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Tue 06/19/12 05:30 AM
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God created everything and science has figured out how God created things is still the belief in a God so that's claiming God exist.So to say they both work together is still a theist/creationist point of view.
To say the universe is what it is and does what it does cause thats how it works and life evolved from elements that are on this planet is evolution. Which one is true?It's what you want to believe.I just refuse to believe that a magic man created everything in 6 days. I think it's BS to claim science and God should be as one to satisfy the masses cause thats still claiming God exist and there's no scientific data to even make the claim God exist. |
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Epiphany
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Creationist try to debunk evolutionist when the facts and data are there for creationist to see but they don't see it cause of their faith.So it's a 2 way street creationist aren't saints they try to fill childrens minds with their crap junk science too and tell children that evolution is false.
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Mon 06/18/12 07:11 AM
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No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. photos and films are not even absolute proof of a thing, they can be faked and anyone who chooses to not believe in something can choose to believe such evidence as likewise not proving anything,,, |
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the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] lol, no need to go to name calling man. The only thing I'm lucky about is that Jesus Christ bored the cross for me, he tasted death so I could have eternal life. And nobody said anything about a "voice in their head", what are you talking about? And when God "speaks" to us, it's not just a "voice in the head". Matthew 3:17 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. |
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the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] |
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the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? |
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the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity.
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Sun 06/17/12 01:53 PM
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No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. |
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Sad to see this muslims are the aggressors it seems but the christians have their part in this too they aren't innocent.Don't worry though if the oil fields look like they might be endangered the CIA will do some drone drops on "militants" when it comes to oil the US doesn't give a s h i t what faith you are. The last time I checked Oil was the fuel of choice in the US. I know, and they don't give a d*m about us neither. Big deal. |
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Sun 06/17/12 10:56 AM
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Sad to see this muslims are the aggressors it seems but the christians have their part in this too they aren't innocent.Don't worry though if the oil fields look like they might be endangered the CIA will do some drone drops on "militants" when it comes to oil the US doesn't give a s h i t what faith you are. The last time I checked Oil was the fuel of choice in the US. |
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Sun 06/17/12 10:42 AM
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Sad to see this muslims are the aggressors it seems but the christians have their part in this too they aren't innocent.Don't worry though if the oil fields look like they might be endangered the CIA will do some drone drops on "militants" when it comes to oil the US doesn't give a s h i t what faith you are.
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Penrose is well known for fringe speculation. If something like this pans out it would be world shattering, but that is the same with most of his ideas, he loves extraordinary ideas . . . sadly they usually have a lot of problems to overcome, so far he is striking out. I have not looked very hard, but somewhere out there is some fairly good criticisms of the research paper linked in the OP, basically that they failed to rule out the concentric circles being caused by some other mundane source that would be within the universe or caused by inflation. Cant remember its been a while. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Yep i agree with this people forget that Penrose and Hawkings removed quantum mechanics when they came up with the "singularity theorem".In other words if you remove quantum mechanics then their theorem is possible. i don't know, they both know a little more about it than i do...but the Big Bang Theory seems really outdated now... maybe they are the only ones looking for evidence against the BBT, while most of the others are not thinking about it... |
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