Put that together with the comandment of"thou shall not lie" and it really tells you something.

One thing I did like in there and I have been thinking about are things like the internet. If we had kept going in with things that people felt was real, like the idea of "aether" all around us. We would have never made any advances. The scientific method strictly followed has allowed us to have real miracles like, air planes, the internet, standing on the moon, and so on.
Only things that can really be measured by science brought you these miracles. I would say they are the only miracles the earth has ever seen.

Peace in truth.

If you feel all those things then that is what non-Christians feel when they are spoken too. Of course everyone comes in a spectrum and you are on one end of the spectrum.No where near as bad as most. I cannot stop talking about what I believe any more then you can.
When you make a statement like "I cannot believe we just all came from an atom" That is a statement that is trying to make me look ignorant. These tactics go back and forth. I am just using them consistently on this side and that makes you feel bad. If you wanted to follow the rule do onto others. Say you would like me to stop making comments then I would think the only solution for you would be to stop making comments yourself.

I want to make clear that I am not suggesting you stop making comments. I am trying to point out that the words we use seem to be loving and harmless when we speak them but can seem mean and uppity to the people who hear them. This is why proselytizing is so bad.

I respect you rabbit; but with all due respect, I feel pain when I read you. What kind of pain? I do not know. The pain I feel is deep within my soul. When I leave here after reading you, I think of you throughout the day. Literaly.

I love your face, your smile, but I worry.

I do not mean to offend, but I must speak what I feel.

What I read from you this time, was something akin to thinking me dumb, or silly. I assure you, I am none of those. Unless I choose the behavior. Playfully being any one of those things.

I am who I am. Better than who I once was, when I believed different than I do now. I grew into a believer from experiences I encountered. I am grateful for that. I have blossomed into a healthier thinker and love without fear. I care deeply for all my fellow beings. I wish happiness to even those who hate me.
I take on no anomosity, hatred, loathing...For it doesn't need me. I became less of that equation, becoming more than I have ever been. All because I encountered what I feel is a Godly entrusion. Happily so.

Kat




I'll tell you the secret to what I do. It may ruin it for me for ever to put it out here but maybe it is time. All I do is take the language of the Religious and sculpt my own beliefs that knowledge and thinking are more important then blind faith.
I use the exact words and phrases and tactics of the Religious and it makes them furious. I don't know if that is sad or funny. I keep hoping that they will see how it is and change their ways. They never do.
So now you know what I am doing. I just copy the tactic of the Christians exactly and put in my own beliefs. For some reason the Christians find it hateful and they think I am broken somehow. Well if that is the case what does that mean about you?

I am with you on that Kat!



Too bad he only thought to give us eyes, ears and a brain.

I think when using gravity as an example here it would be better to say that the law of attraction is like someone that wants to float up in the air. We say no you cannot float in the air. The person jumps in the air a few times and says see I was floating. We would say in return you can really stay in the air if you want just get in an airplane. It uses all the known laws of science to keep you air born.

I think this is closer to what we are dealing with.

Creative said it. It will never happen.


Just look at a map and history and see for yourself the most territory any powerful nation has controlled. I would bet it never crosses 1/4 of all the land mass in the world.

I think I heard a Chinese folk tale like that. This King has no decedents so he is going to choose one from the young kids in his village. He tells them he is going to test them by giving them a pot with a seed in it to be cared for. At the end of the growing season everyone is to bring the pots back and he will then decide who will be the next king. One kid has his at home and no matter what he does he cannot make the seed grow. He tries, water, fertilizer, sun, no sun, and on and on but no luck. The day comes when everyone is supposed to bring back the plants. As he is walking back he sees that the other kids in the contest have large beautiful plants. When everyone is gathered he sees that he is the only one that has failed.
The King walks around looking at each plant. He seems to be thinking hard at each one. When he gets to the boy he asks him what happened and the boy has to explain his failure all over again. Then the King says to everyone that he has found his successor. This boy that has no plant is the winner. The king explains that he never put a seed in any of the pots and that the boy was the only one honest and brave enough to bring his true work.

As much as I would like to bet on the end of the world with the Armageddon pushers.

I would also like to bet with the one world govt. people. Do you people think this is going to happen in our life time? I will be glad to bet that it will not.

Wow TLW you are one very smart person. Now we just need to convince your brothers here.

Not exactly, The Jesus that says ,turn the other cheek, blessed are the poor, the weak, the down hearted. The Jesus that would rather let himself die before letting someone raise a sword in his defense. That Jesus I am all for.

However the God that needs to kill all the first born to make one man see the light, the God that wants to make us all feel guilty because some guy ate an apple long ago, the God that can only think of Killing himself to appease himself to make up for the bad actions of his creations. That is the God I do not want to spend eternity with and will not call upon.

God tells Adam and Eve not to eat of the tree and then an Angle steps in and gets them to do it. God tells Abraham to sacrifice his son and then an angle steps in and stops it. God doesn't seem to be able to control his angles very well.

You are the ones that put feeling into my words. I am pointing out that I do not have any feelings about it because it is the same as talking about Zeus. The day you let your kids know that Santa is not real and you think that "Jesus is the reason for the season". You will believe that you are being very loving and and caring.

Peace in Truth

I am very confident that I won't need to say a thing. If there is a loving God that is like a father then he is probably a father like me and more interested in the things I succeeded in as opposed to concentrating on my failures.

The sad thing is this "father" like God will take that child begging for a quarter and send him to hell forever. Can you imagine anything your child would do that you would give that punishment?

No one else gets to say "my bad"?

with your reasoning the best thing to do would be to believe in every religion world wide. That way you would not be surprised when you met the real God.

Half time Im an Athiest the other half I'm Agnostic.

Full time belief in love and peace.

When you guys think we are offended by these things it is funny.


When I point out how silly it is that Jesus would have let that woman burn unless she asked for help. It does not effect me anymore then if I was to point out that Santa didn't really die for your sins.

Peace in truth

Man Jesus was just there to watch her fry.Lucky she asked for help or she would be dead today. If I was Jesus and had that power I would act like any human would and save her without being asked. I guess he is slightly less then human.