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thunderstruck60 I watched the video of that song. It was kind of hard to get the lyrics but I did not get where God comes into that. 
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Bible Study Anyone?
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The Lord's Prayer. Click link below: www.LordsPrayerMovie.com May you all be blessed this day.
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I hear what you are saying Thomas. Indeed sometimes, it feels like the only hate speech that is allowed is that which is against Christians. However, we are called to love everyone. I believe the body (the church) of Christ will endure.
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I listened to the "broken" song by Kristy. She has a lovely voice. Silvancihole01 - welcome to the forums. Hope you enjoy being here.
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"IN YOUR FACE" - part 2
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they are cute when they are tiny. |
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Bible Study Anyone?
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Oh my, what a blessing she is. That bought tears to my eyes.  I could just visualize the scene.
I hope you and your family have a Wonderful Christmas. 
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Edification
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That made me laugh,
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Hitler On Christianity
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Krimsa, You are playing a semantics game and a dishonest one. "Christian" means "Christ Like". So obviously, the only true Christians are people who try to be like Christ. Those who willfully sin aren't considered Christians. I have shown you this in scripture (1 Corinthians 5). This is a precedent that is 1900+ years old, yet you feel it should be overturned so that you can get your licks in on Christianity. I hope that every Christian here will join me in ignoring you. We should turn our backs to you and forget about you, ignoring your every post and your cries for attention. It is your choice to be so stubbornly difficult, ignoring all reason and logic to continue to push your vile and bigoted beliefs. I urge anyone who is a Christian to follow the commands of Jesus and turn away, nothing you say will change Krimsa's position. No facts or reason or logic that can come from your mind will change her. She has made her choice and we should accept that choice. If she is ever to change, it will have to come from within. Yes, you are right. |
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Hitler On Christianity
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You were the one that quoted that one little paragraph. I took the liberty of disclosing your source. I dont even understand the relevance of the rest of your comment quite frankly. Britty said I am no supporter of ultra right wing so called Christianity. Indeed, those are the people who share Hitler's views. They are not Christian if they do not accept Jesus as the Christ, pure and simple. Nothing to do with modern day standards.
the “no true Scotsman” fallacy that Christians are so fond of because it allows them to easily dispose of anyone that doesn’t meet whatever criteria they currently decide to use for Christianity. Child-molesting Catholic priests? No, they’re not real Christians. Bloodthirsty, murderous tyrants? Nope, they’re not Christian either. What constitutes being a Christian, you might ask? Why, whatever the person making the claim believes at the time, of course! You state you took the liberty of disclosing my source. Indeed how can you know what my source was, unless you can read minds. As I have stated that was not my source. |
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Hitler On Christianity
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“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) The thing here is we don't know what is definition of God is. He also claimed that Jesus was an Aryan. The Aryan race is a theory. That alone indicates that he did not truly believe in the Christian God and his view of the bible was twisted. Indeed it was his goal to replace it with his version of the bible and that is historical fact also. Dietrich Bonhoeffer had already been hounded and silenced by the Nazi regime for his vocal opposition to its persecution of Jews. He had been offered safe haven by American friends, and had accepted it, only to change his mind. In July 1939, Dietrich Bonhoeffer left New York to return to his native Germany. He is quoted as saying: "I have come to the conclusion that I made a mistake in coming to America," he wrote. "I shall have no right to take part in the restoration of Christian life in Germany after the war unless I share the trials of this time with my people." In the spring of 1943, after using his church contacts to help a group of 14 Jews escape to Switzerland, Bonhoeffer was arrested by the Gestapo. For two years he waited in prison, quietly ministering to his fellow prisoners, writing a series of letters that survive as both a poignant testament to faith and a fragmented vision for a viable post-war Christianity. On July 20, 1944, the long-planned attempt against Hitler was finally made; a bomb smuggled into the Fuehrer’s head-quarters exploded but failed to kill him. There followed a vicious spasm of retribution in which some 5,000 people were killed: some summarily shot, others repeatedly strangled and revived, their agonies filmed for Hitler’s pleasure. One of those condemned to die was Dietrich Bonhoeffer. It appears that Hitler was against anyone who stood in his way. |
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Hitler On Christianity
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Britty said: “Throughout the period of National Socialist rule, the Nazis employed a combination of ‘lawful’ and criminal devices to persecute the Churches in a cynically opportunistic
manner designed to minimise damage to their other interests [R]eligious liberties in Germany and in the occupied areas were seriously impaired. The various Christian Churches were systematically cut off from effective communication with the people. They were confined as far as possible to the performance of narrowly religious functions, and even within this sphere were subjected to as many hindrances as the Nazis dared to impose. Those results were accompanied partly by legal and partly by illegal and terroristic means." This paragraph was taken from "Conservapedia" which is an ultra right wing conservative Christian version of Wikipedia. To give you an example of their "fair and balanced reporting tactics" here is a couple titles from other articles found on the site. "Michelle Malkin: The Democratic Culture of Corruption" and "The Taint of Scandal Envelops Democrats" 
You may have found that paragraph used on their sites I did not. I am no supporter of ultra right wing so called Christianity. Indeed, those are the people who share Hitler's views. They are not Christian if they do not accept Jesus as the Christ, pure and simple. Nothing to do with modern day standards. That is the same today as it was at the beginning. They do not share the same beliefs as basic Christianity. I am not Catholic so I do not feel a need to share the burden of their mistakes. I do not agree with the romantic notion that the early settlers came here for solely for religious freedom. However, the mistakes and cruelty of man does not change who God is, it never can. I am a believer in Jesus, as Lord and savior. I do not follow man. I do not prosetylze, and I do not feel responsible for those who do. However, You neglected to quote the heading, that was taken from the OSS response within the Nuremberg trial process. I will take that as a simple oversight on your part and not intentional. It appears you have a good deal against Christianity. Carry on believing the lies about Hitler. It is that kind of thinking that will create the atmosphere for the very thing you claim to be trying to prevent. |
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Bible Study Anyone?
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Just a week before Christmas I had a visitor. This is how it happened. I just finished the household chores for the night and was preparing to go to bed when I heard a noise in the front of the house. I opened the door to the front room, and to my surprise, Santa himself stepped out from behind the Christmas tree. He placed his finger over his mouth so I would not cry out. "What are you doing?" I started to ask him. The words choked in my throat, as I saw he had tears in his eyes. His usual jolly manner was gone. Gone was the eager boisterous soul we all know. He then answered me with a simple statement, TEACH THE CHILDREN! I was puzzled: What did he mean? He anticipated my question, and with one quick movement brought forth a miniature toy bag from behind the tree. As I stood there bewildered, Santa said, Teach the Children! Teach them the old meaning of Christmas. The meaning that a now-a-day Christmas has forgotten! Santa then reached in his bag and pulled out a FIR TREE and placed it on the mantle. Teach the Children that the pure green color of the stately fir tree remains green all year round, depicting the everlasting hope of mankind. All the needles point heavenward, making it a symbol of man's thoughts turning toward heaven. He again reached into his bag and pulled out a brilliant STAR. Teach the Children that the star was the heavenly sign of promises long ago. God promised a Savior for the world, and the star was the sign of fulfillment of that promise. He then reached into the bag and pulled out a CANDLE. Teach the Children that the candle symbolizes that Christ is the light of the world, and when we see this great light we are reminded of He who displaces the darkness. Once again he reached into his bag and then removed a WREATH and placed it on the tree. Teach the Children that the wreath symbolizes the eternal nature of love. Real love never ceases. Love is one continuous round of affection. He then pulled out from his bag an ornament of HIMSELF. Teach the Children that Santa Claus symbolizes the generosity and good will we feel during the month of December. He reached in again and pulled out a HOLLY LEAF. Teach the Children the holly plant represents immortality. It represents the crown of thorns worn by our Savior. The red holly berries represent blood shed by Him. Next he pulled out a GIFT from the bag and said, "Teach the Children that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. Thanks be to God for His unspeakable gift. Teach the Children that the wise men bowed before the holy babe and presented Him with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. We should give gifts in the same spirit as the wise men." Santa then reached in his bag and pulled out a CANDY CANE and hung it on the tree. Teach the Children that the candy cane represents the shepherd's crook. The crook on the shepherd's staff helps bring back strayed sheep from the flock. The candy cane is the symbol that we are our brother's keeper. He reached in again and pulled out an ANGEL. Teach the Children that it was the angels that heralded in the glorious news of the Savior's birth. The angels sang 'Glory to God in the highest, on earth, peace and good will.' Suddenly I heard a soft twinkling sound, and from his bag he pulled out a BELL. Teach the Children that as the lost sheep are found by the sound of a bell, it should bring people to the fold. The bell symbolizes guidance and return. Santa looked at the tree and was pleased. He looked back at me and I saw the twinkle was back in his eyes. He said, "Remember, teach the Children the true meaning of Christmas, and not to put me in the center, for I am but a humble servant of the One who is, and I bow down and worship Him, our Lord, our God." HO HO HO MERRY CHRISTMAS
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Edification
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"In all things showing yourself to be a pattern of good works; in doctrine showing integrity, reverence, incorruptibility" (Titus 2:7). "...Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification" (1 Corinthians 14:26). What it means to me is that we are commissioned to encourage and build up each other in the body of Christ.
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He Is
(Song written and performed by Aaron Jeoffrey) In Genesis, He's the breath of life In Exodus, the Passover Lamb In Leviticus He's our high priest Numbers, the fire by night Deuteronomy, He's Moses' voice In Joshua, He is Salvation's choice Judges, law giver In Ruth, the kinsmen-redeemer First and Second Samuel, Our trusted prophet In Kings and Chronicles, He's sovereign Ezra, true and faithful scribe Nehemiah, He's the rebuilder of Broken walls and lives In Esther, He's Mordecai's courage In Job, the timeless redeemer In Psalms, He is our morning song In Proverbs, wisdom's cry Ecclesiastes, the time and season In the Song of Solomon, He is the lover's dream He is, He is In Isaiah, He's prince of peace Jeremiah, the weeping prophet In Lamentations, the cry for Israel Ezekiel, He's the call from sin In Daniel, the stranger in the fire In Hosea, He is forever faithful In Joel, He's the spirit's power In Amos, the Arms that carry us In Obadiah, He's the Lord our Savior In Jonah, He's the great missionary In Micah, the promise of peace In Nahum, He is our strength and our shield In Habakkuk and Zephaniah He's pleading for revival In Haggai, He restores a lost heritage In Zachariah, our fountain In Malachi, He is the sun of righteousness Rising with healing in His wings. He is, He is In Matthew, Mark, Luke and John He is God, Man, Messiah In the book of Acts, He is fire from Heaven In Romans, He's the grace of God In Corinthians, the power of love In Galatians, He is freedom from The curse of sin Ephesians, our glorious treasure Philippians, the servant's heart In Colossians, He's the Godhead Trinity Thessalonians, our coming King In Timothy, Titus, Philemon He's our mediator and our faithful pastor In Hebrews, the everlasting covenant In James, the one who heals the sick In First and Second Peter, He is our shepherd In John and in Jude, He's the lover Coming for His bride In the Revelation, He is King of Kings, and Lord of lords He is, He is The Prince of peace The Son of Man The Lamb of God The Great I Am He's the Alpha and Omega Our God and our Savior He is Jesus Christ the Lord And when time is no more He is He is
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human nature perhaps, but like I said I try to closely measure it against scripture.
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Hitler On Christianity
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no need, two little girls in England managed to convince a whole lot of people there were fairies in the garden without any of those modern entrapments, so cut the sarcasm. I am not going any route other than to repeat the fact that Hitler lied if he said he was a Christian. He lied on so many fronts, why would anyone believe anything else, unless it is because it serves their own personal gain. THE NAZI’S PERSECUTION OF RELIGION AS A WAR CRIME: THE OSS’S RESPONSE WITHIN THE NUREMBERG TRIALS PROCESS Claire Hulme* and Dr. Michael Salter** “Throughout the period of National Socialist rule, the Nazis employed a combination of ‘lawful’ and criminal devices to persecute the Churches in a cynically opportunistic manner designed to minimise damage to their other interests [R]eligious liberties in Germany and in the occupied areas were seriously impaired. The various Christian Churches were systematically cut off from effective communication with the people. They were confined as far as possible to the performance of narrowly religious functions, and even within this sphere were subjected to as many hindrances as the Nazis dared to impose. Those results were accompanied partly by legal and partly by illegal and terroristic means." |
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Hitler On Christianity
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A Christian cross given to German mothers Hitler encouraged several programs for the growth of a strong German Nazi Volk. These programs involved the encouragement of the virtues of German motherhood for the purpose of increasing the size of their families and the abolition of abortions (except for the mentally ill). In 1938, Hitler instituted a new award to honor German Nazi motherhood, especially for large families. He awarded such mothers the cross of Honor of the German Mother (Ehrenkreuz der deutschen Mutter). Krimsa, Perhaps you do not intent to spread lies. But that is not a picture of a Christian cross just because some madman says it is. They can call it the cross of honor, but it is not a Christian cross by any stretch of the imagination. I notice it comes from an atheist site. One that is very big on trying to spread the myth that Hitler was a Christian. What I am wondering though is why is it so important to try to convince people that Hitler was a Christian. |
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Hitler On Christianity
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Yes, I can understand that. Unfortunately, history does repeat itself, that is the state of the human condition and it will in future as you will probably find out. |
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Hitler On Christianity
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Thank you very much for sharing that smiles. I did not elaborate on my thoughts too much because I did not want you or anyone else to be offended. I often wondered as an 'idealistic' teenager how a woman would be able to tolerate her husband being a part of that, and be able to allow her young sons to be part of that regime. As I have learnt over the years, life is not that simple, and I am sure many did what they felt they had to in order to survive. We cannot judge them for that until we have walked in their shoes. "Today regardless of what you think of Germans, I am proud of my nationality. We have great philosophers, musicians, inventors, scholars, and we are considered the third strongest economy in the world. Not only do we have universal health care and education, we have a system that takes care of the people. We believe Health and Education is not a privilige, but a must for everyone in the country to have. College and University doesn't cost a cent, except for books and is equivalent to an American Degree. We have a health care system that the world envies. I can get a heart transplant without worrying about how much money I have to pay for this operation. I can get a education with a degree without leaving in a great debt of payments. I can go on and on about the greatness of Germany today, but I will leave it at that" You should be rightly proud of your country!
It truly was a horrible war and I have sat down with veterans of both world war 1 and 2 in pubs drinking german beer discussing events that you don't read in history books. I remember now that it is almost Christmas time, I had a friend who at the time was 92 and I was 18. lol They actually got together around a huge round oak table with a bell on it. They were over 20 and each year one would die and they would put a x on the huge billboard. Today no one is alive from that group as I am 40 now. He said he was stationed in Morroco in WW2 and the enemy at the time was only a few miles away. In the day time they would exchange bullets and at night time they would have soccer competitions. They would lay down their weapons and go play some soccer keeping score of the games throughout the war. At Christmas (only at night) they would exchange Christmas songs while sitting in the ditches. He said nobody really wanted to fight, but they had to when the high official officers would pay them visits. Now I am certain that cannot be read in a history book unless a surviving member writes about it one day. You were fortunate to have had that experience as a young man, there is much wisdom to be learned from our elders. I also heard from older generations about the exchanging of Christmas gifts. Not many would talk about the really bad things to a youngster. So true, it is not something that is to be found in a history book.
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