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All of the following quotes were taken from Hitler's Secret Conversations: 1941-1944 Night of 11th-12th July, 1941: National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7) 10th October, 1941, midday: Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43) 14th October, 1941, midday: The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity [is] the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52) 19th October, 1941, night: The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. 21st October, 1941, midday: Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St. Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65) 13th December, 1941, midnight: Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... [here he insults people who believe transubstantiation] .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119) 14th December, 1941, midday: Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120) 9th April, 1942, dinner: There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339) 27th February, 1942, midday: It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold its demise." (p 278) |
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Its quite an awkward feeling to agree with Hitler.
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Wow..
I have posted many times on here about Hitlers Play book from before he came to power. What was it. It was what MARTIN LUTHER wrote concerning the Jews. It is called Martins Luthed The Lie or The Lie of the Jews. Do a search for it. It is not long and read what Martin Luther had said to the German Govt. on how to tackle and treat the jews. Hitler only did what for ages at least The so called Reformists (which is a lie also)from Lutherism said was devine. Was told by the Almighty. No wonder Hilter made himself out to to a G-d |
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It's pretty irrelevant what Hitler might have said behind closed doors.
The fact remains that he used Christianity in public speeches to support his holocaust and the people appauded it. So it's really a moot point to be concerned about what Hitler himself might have actually believed or thought. I think most people will agree that he was mentally ill. |
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It's pretty irrelevant what Hitler might have said behind closed doors. The fact remains that he used Christianity in public speeches to support his holocaust and the people appauded it. So it's really a moot point to be concerned about what Hitler himself might have actually believed or thought. I think most people will agree that he was mentally ill. No, not "the people", it was "some people". Many Christians were killed by the Nazis. Those who were inclined to be bigoted against Jews bought into Hitler's fallacious interpretations of scripture to justify their pre-existing hatred of Jews. |
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It's pretty irrelevant what Hitler might have said behind closed doors. The fact remains that he used Christianity in public speeches to support his holocaust and the people appauded it. So it's really a moot point to be concerned about what Hitler himself might have actually believed or thought. I think most people will agree that he was mentally ill. |
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Spider those quotes are reaching. He is basically just blabbering on about his political ambitions. Mine were taken from Mein Kampf. In fact I read that book about 8 years ago. He was a Catholic and he used that agenda to drive a wedge between the Christian and Jewish populace living in Germany. However, the Christians were already hostile towards the Jews. Christianity was just another dagger to utilize.
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Hitler was so wired on crystal meth that he said a lot of weird sh*t
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Fate must bring retribution, unless men conciliate Fate while there is still time. How thankful I am today to the Providence which sent me to that school!
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) Thus my faith grew that my beautiful dream for the future would become reality after all, even though this might require long years. -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) The more the linguistic Babel corroded and disorganized parliament, the closer drew the inevitable hour of the disintegration of this Babylonian Empire, and with it the hour of freedom for my German-Austrian people. -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) Not until my fourteenth or fifteenth year did I begin to come across the word 'Jew,' with any frequency, partly in connection with political discussions.... For the Jew was still characterized for me by nothing but his religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I maintained my rejection of religious attacks in this case as in others. Consequently, the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultural tradition of a great nation. -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna's destinies: Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party. -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) (Note: Karl Lueger (1844-1910) belonged as a member of the anti-Semitic Christian Social Party, he became mayor of Vienna and kept his post until his death.) The man and the movement seemed 'reactionary' in my eyes. My common sense of justice, however, forced me to change this judgment in proportion as I had occasion to become acquainted with the man and his work; and slowly my fair judgment turned to unconcealed admiration. Today, more than ever, I regard this man as the greatest German mayor of all times. -Adolf Hitler speaking about Dr. Karl Lueger of the Christian Social Party (Mein Kampf) How many of my basic principles were upset by this change in my attitude toward the Christian Social movement! My views with regard to anti-Semitism thus succumbed to the passage of time, and this was my greatest transformation of all. -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) Volume 1, Chapter 3 General Political Considerations Based on My Vienna Period |
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Taken from Seamonster.
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that picture scares me
I know it's been 60 years. but the evil and the horror that they inflicted on the human race and the church was too timid to stand against em. could happen again any day too |
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that picture scares me I know it's been 60 years. but the evil and the horror that they inflicted on the human race and the church was too timid to stand against em. could happen again any day too The Protestant and Catholic church financially backed and endorsed him. Dont kid yourself. |
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they had to or die
I've heard em called Papal Vichys |
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they had to or die I've heard em called Papal Vichys Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther. Hitler did not have to parade his belief in God, as so many American Christians do now. Nor did he have to justify his Godly belief against an Atheist movement. He took his beliefs for granted just as most Germans did at that time. His thrust aimed at politics, not religion. But through his political and religious reasoning he established in 1933, a German Reich Christian Church, uniting the Protestant churches to instill faith in a national German Christianity. Future generations should remember that Adolph Hitler could not have come into power without the support of the Protestant and Catholic churches and the German Christian populace. The following quotes provides some of Hitler's expressions of his belief in religion, faith, fanaticism, Providence, and even a few of his paraphrasing of the Bible. It by no means represents the totality of Hitler's concerns. To realize the full context of these quotes, I implore the reader to study Mein Kampf. The purpose of this text intends to dispute the claims made by Christians that Hitler "was an atheist," or "anti-religious," and to reveal the dangers of belief-systems. This text in no way attempts to give endorsement to anti-Semitism. |
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It's pretty irrelevant what Hitler might have said behind closed doors. The fact remains that he used Christianity in public speeches to support his holocaust and the people appauded it. So it's really a moot point to be concerned about what Hitler himself might have actually believed or thought. I think most people will agree that he was mentally ill. No, not "the people", it was "some people". Many Christians were killed by the Nazis. Those who were inclined to be bigoted against Jews bought into Hitler's fallacious interpretations of scripture to justify their pre-existing hatred of Jews. Spider the estimated 3 million Christians killed by the Third Reich were Polish citizens that were trying to help hide Jews. Poland was invaded in the Fall of 1939. |
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Krimsa Mein Kampf is a poor argument since it was written long before Hitler came to power.When he was thrown in jail he probably only had 20-30 brown shirt followers if that.If you can find something Hitler said after he was in control of Germany and after he started the war it would have alot more meaning since before the war he was basically a nobody and what he thought about Christianity good or bad wasn't important to anyone.
Our debate is if the Catholics not only supported Hitler but also carried out Hitler's orders.The picture did not impress me.Since Hitler and his SS Army took over and conquered everything in his path it's safe to say the churches were not only targeted because of it's resistance but also the church in general had no choice but to go along with Hitler's movement or die.It was common practice for Nazis to burn churches regardless of denomiation.In the photo both bishops seem to be very uneasy about giving the heil Hitler salute.Neither one of them is doing it right and one even has his eyes closed.Both bishops only have their arm semi erect and it's not high and straight like it should be.Neither one of them looks happy or enthusiastic about it either.It was not uncommon for the Nazis to take photographs and shoot films showing Jews leading normal life's(shopping,gardening,operating stores)while they were shipped to concentration camps.Even after the Jews were sent to concentration camps the Nazis made films showing the Jews leading happy lives in the concentration camps.It was all a lie of course but to the people they were showing these movies to they had no idea the Jews were getting slaughtered in mass numbers. I would have to say that photo was shot against the will of the bishops for the sole purpose of Nazi propaganda and to give the illusion that the churches stood behind them and their cause. Spidercmb's quotes are not only more recent but they were quoted after Hitler came to power. |
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I would highly recommend the movie "Come and see" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAzQWSZ58Ac&feature=related
Nazis murdered entire villages in Belarus(who were overwhelmingly Christian or Catholic)It's defiantly not for the faint of heart. |
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Krimsa Mein Kampf is a poor argument since it was written long before Hitler came to power.When he was thrown in jail he probably only had 20-30 brown shirt followers if that.If you can find something Hitler said after he was in control of Germany and after he started the war it would have alot more meaning since before the war he was basically a nobody and what he thought about Christianity good or bad wasn't important to anyone. Our debate is if the Catholics not only supported Hitler but also carried out Hitler's orders.The picture did not impress me.Since Hitler and his SS Army took over and conquered everything in his path it's safe to say the churches were not only targeted because of it's resistance but also the church in general had no choice but to go along with Hitler's movement or die.It was common practice for Nazis to burn churches regardless of denomiation.In the photo both bishops seem to be very uneasy about giving the heil Hitler salute.Neither one of them is doing it right and one even has his eyes closed.Both bishops only have their arm semi erect and it's not high and straight like it should be.Neither one of them looks happy or enthusiastic about it either.It was not uncommon for the Nazis to take photographs and shoot films showing Jews leading normal life's(shopping,gardening,operating stores)while they were shipped to concentration camps.Even after the Jews were sent to concentration camps the Nazis made films showing the Jews leading happy lives in the concentration camps.It was all a lie of course but to the people they were showing these movies to they had no idea the Jews were getting slaughtered in mass numbers. I would have to say that photo was shot against the will of the bishops for the sole purpose of Nazi propaganda and to give the illusion that the churches stood behind them and their cause. Spidercmb's quotes are not only more recent but they were quoted after Hitler came to power. Well put. Photographs do not equal proof. The "Cottingley Fairies" are evidence of that. |
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The photo's just prove that he used Christianity, just like everyone else does, to wear a label, if this isn't true then what is the point of even labeling faith at all?
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