What are you talking about? I never said that YOU are being disrespectful. I was just responding to your statement that you felt that raising your hand or not doesn't mean anything.

So, if I was chatting on my cell durning a service in church it's not a sign of disrespect unless someone allows themselves to think that way?

Well, I guess I don't see it as a big deal but, when you don't bother doing what has be customary for soo long it's a just becomes a sign of disrespect. It takes no effort just to put ur hand over chest rather it's takes more just trying not to.

not sure and I don't feel like doing research but didn't the pledge (the original one with raising your hand in the air) come before Hitler?


I'm just trying to state that it's symbolic regardless if it's right or wrong. It's mean something to put your hand over your chest as you say the Pledge.

Maybe, it's me but I think that raising your hand can mean something...no?

I think that she was more upset at her statement of "selling your soul to salute the flag" than anything else.

I'm not. But, your not being honest at the moment bc you knew where he was going with his story...

Your soooooo lying right now.

No, I knew what you meant, it came out wrong as I wrote it. It was meant to say that I was agreeing with your thoughts on the subject

Just wondering people thoughts on here...
And don't everybody profile people everyday???
Does that make all of those people racist too?

Even if that was the case it doesn't make it right. 12 days in and to even get considered alone is a joke then, 9 months later win the prize. It's just wrong anyway you look at it.

I don't think that anybody in here would argue that. If you do wrong then you should get punished...

Yes, the investigation started in 08' and no wrongdoing was founded. BUT, as of recently it was homeland that revoked the special immigration enforcement contract.

Sorry but, I was getting indoctrinated "mmmm...mmmm...obama."

As much as I agree with everything that you said I see it more related to healthcare and getting the immigration reform. I don't understand the thinking of having some people work very hard to become a legal citizen and others sneak in illegally and wait for the country to hand them citizenship...

With your post it almost like that your trying to convince yourself that obama earned or deserved this award. All that this award has done is tie obama's hands and make us being the U.S look weaker in the world's eyes.Yes, I do give him credit for his never ending talking and speeches of "hope and change" BUT, that's all it is...talk. He can not or since it's too late, shouldn't have recieved this award. M.L.K, earned that award, Princess Di eared the award, The Dilai Lama eared that award as well. Now you are suggesting that obama has the right to even be mentioned in the same company???????

This is the rest of the article...
Sorry but I'm not sure how to send the link over on this site yet.

“The 2008 audit … cites utterly no wrongdoing on behalf of the Sheriff’s deputies and even goes so far as to praise Arpaio and his office for their professionalism and adherence to all the 287G contract guidelines,” the sheriff’s office release stated. “The results of the 2008 audit identically mirror other audits conducted over the last few years by several different agencies, all of which found no wrong doing in Arpaio’s enforcement of the federal immigration program.”

That Arpaio’s deputies could conduct their operations so faultlessly despite the severity of the illegal immigration problem facing Arizona is a testament to Arpaio’s leadership. The Milwaukee Examiner for October 7 pointed out that Arizona is “home to the second highest kidnappings in the world,” and that Arizona state data for Maricopa County shows “more than 53 percent of violent crimes committed in the county are perpetrated by illegal aliens.”

Arpaio has found some support in Congress from Representatives Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) and Lamar Smith (R-Texas). In a joint statement, Franks and Smith have urged Homeland Security and the White House to reconsider their action against Sheriff Arpaio and his deputies.

“The key to combating illegal immigration is federal, state and local cooperation,” Smith and Franks said. “This is why we believe it is crucial for the federal government to continue to support individuals like Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the implementation of agreements under section 287g, which provides for the Department of Homeland Security to delegate authority to enforce federal immigration laws to state and local officials.”

Smith affirmed the success of federal cooperation with local agencies: “The fact is, [the] 287g program works. Thousands of illegal immigrants apprehended for other crimes are being identified and deported.”

Franks would like to see local officials like Arpaio get a “thank you” from the federal government, not harassment and vilification. “Maricopa County has seen an increase in crime, drug trafficking and other issues because of the immigration problem,” Franks explained. “It is reprehensible for DHS to bully law enforcement officials who have honorably served this nation and the state of Arizona by enforcing federal and state laws and who are continuing to work to protect the American people.”

And Sheriff Arpaio’s deputies are indeed protecting America, not only from illegal immigrants from Mexico, but also from illegals who are not Mexican and who could be terrorists. As recently as September 23, a Sheriff’s office release pointed out that four illegals from Communist China had been apprehended.

Speaking through an interpreter, the Chinese suspects said they were from the province of Fu Jian and had begun their journey by boarding a plane in Beijing. Cuban currency was found in their possession, indicating the international scope of the problem. “If people are being smuggled into the United States illegally from a communist country like China through Mexico, who knows where else they could be coming from?” Arpaio said.

It is infuriating that the federal government under the Bush administration so eagerly used 9/11 as an excuse to crack down on American citizens, virtually strip-searching them at airports and illegally monitoring their electronic communications without warrants. Now, eight years later, the withdrawal of support from Sheriff Arpaio sadly proves that this same government under the Obama administration is willing to leave our borders open and invite another 9/11 to occur rather than enforce the immigration laws that would protect America.

All of these people mentioned has won the Nobel Prize. So, you can honestly say that obama belongs in the company of these people???

Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King and Teddy Roosevelt to name a couple.