Topic: You can't smoke, but you can drink.
johncarl's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:16 PM

it does we voted in the pepole so we are to blame
You have completely ceased to make any sense...
what ever

NightOwlvg's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:17 PM
Simple. I get an idea, I start working with that idea, and I come to my own conclusion (not based on the other person's view)
Like, for instance, the idea that marijuana has no adverse affect on you? Or the idea that the government created the illegal drug trade?

infectious_witch's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:21 PM

Simple. I get an idea, I start working with that idea, and I come to my own conclusion (not based on the other person's view)
Like, for instance, the idea that marijuana has no adverse affect on you? Or the idea that the government created the illegal drug trade?


Pensi per lei. Sia un individuo.

Has no adverse affect on me? Of course I know it does.
but wait a second. Your information is just about as relevant as mine.
Let's say that you have always heard that weed was bad.
Because of that, you feel that weed is bad based on studies you have seen or heard from someone else.
Now, let's say that I believed that Weed was absolutely terrible until I hit the age of 16. Now, since I have been smoking weed now... going onto 6 years... I've been doing my own research on the good and bad of Weed.

So, how are you going to sit here and tell me on and on again that Weed is terrible?
I know weed is bad. I get that.

NightOwlvg's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:27 PM
So, how are you going to sit here and tell me on and on again that Weed is terrible?
I know weed is bad. I get that.
I'm not merely telling you that "weed is bad". I haven't spent my entire life hearing that it's bad and based my decision on that. I have done extensive research on the subject so that when my children reach the age I should be concerned about their potential use I have already given them relevant data.

I am aware that there have been documented cases of improvements in various aspects of health. Yet, the totality of these cases pales in comparison to the number of documented cases of deteriorated health as a result of usage.

The point you just proved that you missed is that you have been doing research, which has been written with a particular judgement. Your research has been clouded by those judgements. Your judgement has been clouded by that clouded research.
Etc.
Etc.

Bassor's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:31 PM
wow, what a tired topic. Marijuana: good or bad?

To respond to the original topic, I personally have no interest in dating someone intolerant to either weed or drink. So the sooner they can make known to me their position on these substances, the better!

Jess642's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:31 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Tue 01/01/08 03:33 PM
Why do I prefer to not date a person who smokes weed?


I guess because of the related history for me. I grew up in the late 60's early 70's by the beach....pick a drug, they were around noway

My younger brother suffers with Marijuana induced schizophrenia, (yes he has a genetic weakness there in the first place, with a family history of mental illness....I don't, I'm adopted:wink: )...Directly related to the vast amounts of pot he smoked from age 14 through to now.

With the high levels of thc, and other chemicals used in making Hydro, there are plenty of permanent mind altering risks associated with pot smoking.

Also not to just single marijuana as the demon weed, there are plenty of other nasties around, like ICE, that can twist a mind permanently.

My kid's father was a huge pot smoker, and the mood swings that appeared when he had 'dry spells' were downright frightening.

In all fairness, I will not bring anyone into my world who have any addictions, I have kids, so no habitual drinking, even the daily beer after work, and the three after dinner, will I welcome in my home.

People can do what ever they like, I just prefer not to have it (alcohol or pot) in or around my home or my children.




infectious_witch's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:33 PM

So, how are you going to sit here and tell me on and on again that Weed is terrible?
I know weed is bad. I get that.
I'm not merely telling you that "weed is bad". I haven't spent my entire life hearing that it's bad and based my decision on that. I have done extensive research on the subject so that when my children reach the age I should be concerned about their potential use I have already given them relevant data.

I am aware that there have been documented cases of improvements in various aspects of health. Yet, the totality of these cases pales in comparison to the number of documented cases of deteriorated health as a result of usage.

The point you just proved that you missed is that you have been doing research, which has been written with a particular judgement. Your research has been clouded by those judgements. Your judgement has been clouded by that clouded research.
Etc.
Etc.


Nah. I've came to my own conclusions.
I would like to go back to the original post now.

scoobs12's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:33 PM
I like how you say. "you can smoke weed and still get a excellent job" Do you smoke weed and have a excellent job? Most people want to know a person is secure.It sounds like you upset because someone that is accomplished refuses to be with someone that is unaccomplished. You say that a smart person would know when a test is coming. Well sometimes people get hurt on the job and there is no time to clean up. As far as owning nice things and raising children they may possibly become a governor. Why not! It's all about choices. If you want to say hey I didn't sell out to the man. I smoke weed daily and my life is great. Then why does it matter. I'm not going to loose my freedom so someone can stay high.Example. I'm not willing to go to jail because someone left a seed or a roach in my car.I'm not going to lose my house because my partner bought or sold weed and gets busted.

infectious_witch's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:34 PM

Why do I prefer to not date a person who smokes weed?


I guess because of the related history for me. I grew up in the late 60's early 70's by the beach....pick a drug, they were around noway

My younger brother suffers with Marijuana induced schizophrenia, (yes he has a genetic weakness there in the first place, with a family history of mental illness....I don't, I'm adopted:wink: )...Directly related to the vast amounts of pot he smoked from age 14 through to now.

With the high levels of thc, and other chemicals used in making Hydro, there are plenty of permanent mind altering risks associated with pot smoking.

Also not to just single marijuana as the demon weed, there are plenty of other nasties around, like ICE, that can twist a mind permanently.

My kid's father was a huge pot smoker, and the mood swings that appeared when he had 'dry spells' were downright frightening.

In all fairness, I will not bring anyone into my world who have any addictions, I have kids, so no habitual drinking, even the daily beer after work, and the three after dinner, will I welcome in my home.

People can do what ever they like, I just prefer not to have it (alcohol or pot) in or around my home or my children.






Thank you for your thoughts.
That is exactly an answer I wanted to hear.

NightOwlvg's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:35 PM
Nah. I've came to my own conclusions
Well hell boy, you're gonna be rich! Able to come to conclusions all on your own! Doctors, scientists, politicians; they pale in comparison to your skills of deduction!

Seriously, anyone can "reach their own conclusion" but without facts, which you can't possibly get without research, your "conclusions" are nothing more than speculation.

infectious_witch's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:37 PM

I like how you say. "you can smoke weed and still get a excellent job" Do you smoke weed and have a excellent job? Most people want to know a person is secure.It sounds like you upset because someone that is accomplished refuses to be with someone that is unaccomplished. You say that a smart person would know when a test is coming. Well sometimes people get hurt on the job and there is no time to clean up. As far as owning nice things and raising children they may possibly become a governor. Why not! It's all about choices. If you want to say hey I didn't sell out to the man. I smoke weed daily and my life is great. Then why does it matter. I'm not going to loose my freedom so someone can stay high.Example. I'm not willing to go to jail because someone left a seed or a roach in my car.I'm not going to lose my house because my partner bought or sold weed and gets busted.


I wouldn't consider 24 year old women that are still in college and like to go to bars with their friends very accomplished.

I am not upset over anything at all.
I made a general question based on some thoughts of mine.
I notice that a lot of these people that you call accomplished really aren't. Even though they do not want pot smokers, I still do not want to be with them based on their personality and not choices.

I could care less if someone didn't want me because of weed.
Fine by me. I'd like to remain a swinger.

infectious_witch's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:38 PM

Nah. I've came to my own conclusions
Well hell boy, you're gonna be rich! Able to come to conclusions all on your own! Doctors, scientists, politicians; they pale in comparison to your skills of deduction!

Seriously, anyone can "reach their own conclusion" but without facts, which you can't possibly get without research, your "conclusions" are nothing more than speculation.


Yes. I'll be so rich that I can buy the country.

Moving on.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:38 PM
i have a seven yr old son and a pot smoker or a drunk would not be the type of male role model I would want my son exposed too.I don't give a **** what other people do with their lives but I do care when it has the potential to screw mine and my sons up.

NightOwlvg's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:39 PM
Yes. I'll be so rich that I can buy the country
Good luck with that!

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:40 PM
Besides the weed back in the day was just that weed.Now they lace it with god knows what...i wouldn't smoke it now if it was free.

infectious_witch's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:40 PM

i have a seven yr old son and a pot smoker or a drunk would not be the type of male role model I would want my son exposed too.I don't give a **** what other people do with their lives but I do care when it has the potential to screw mine and my sons up.


I can understand that.
I do think though that if you were to find a really good guy who wants to support you and your kid, but the only problem is he smokes weed... you could overlook it if he were to do it in private and never around you or your kid.
I don't know. That's a good topic to debate about.

NightOwlvg's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:41 PM
I do think though that if you were to find a really good guy who wants to support you and your kid, but the only problem is he smokes weed... you could overlook it if he were to do it in private and never around you or your kid
Overlook a serious lack of judgement?

Amusing.

geektothetenth's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:42 PM

Simple. I get an idea, I start working with that idea, and I come to my own conclusion (not based on the other person's view)
Like, for instance, the idea that marijuana has no adverse affect on you? Or the idea that the government created the illegal drug trade?


Well, obviously the government created the illegal drug trade. MJ didn't used to be illegal so the trade of it wouldn't be illegal either, as soon as the government passed a law prohibiting it that trade would now be illegal...thus creating the illegal drug trade.

I used to smoke a lot of pot, I quit last year. I'm not really against it but I just didn't want to keep spending money on it. I don't think that MJ makes you dumb or retards your brain to any large degree. I used to smoke daily in college and scored somewhere in the top 85th percentile on my MCATs. I've smoked daily for about 8-9 years and I still score about the same on IQ tests as I did before I smoked pot. I don't feel like I retain any less information or that I have a harder time grasping things than I used to.

I'm more opposed to the lack of studies on the medicinal effects that THC might have than the legality or illegality of it. Recent studies done by Harvards division of experimental medicine have shown that cannabinoids found in pot decreased lung tumors in mice by up to 50% and severely inhibited it's ability to metastisize. There have also been similar studies done showing that cannabinoids inhibit angiogenesis of tumors in glioblastoma which is one of the most aggresive forms of brain cancer. Angiogenesis is the formation of new blood vessels to feed cancerous cells, by inhibiting this you starve cancer cells. These studies have been peer reviewed and published.

Just because a lot of irresponsible idiots might smoke pot doesn't mean that pot made them idiots or irresponsible. I always did all my school work and waited till I was done with work before sparking up.

infectious_witch's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:43 PM


Simple. I get an idea, I start working with that idea, and I come to my own conclusion (not based on the other person's view)
Like, for instance, the idea that marijuana has no adverse affect on you? Or the idea that the government created the illegal drug trade?


Well, obviously the government created the illegal drug trade. MJ didn't used to be illegal so the trade of it wouldn't be illegal either, as soon as the government passed a law prohibiting it that trade would now be illegal...thus creating the illegal drug trade.

I used to smoke a lot of pot, I quit last year. I'm not really against it but I just didn't want to keep spending money on it. I don't think that MJ makes you dumb or retards your brain to any large degree. I used to smoke daily in college and scored somewhere in the top 85th percentile on my MCATs. I've smoked daily for about 8-9 years and I still score about the same on IQ tests as I did before I smoked pot. I don't feel like I retain any less information or that I have a harder time grasping things than I used to.

I'm more opposed to the lack of studies on the medicinal effects that THC might have than the legality or illegality of it. Recent studies done by Harvards division of experimental medicine have shown that cannabinoids found in pot decreased lung tumors in mice by up to 50% and severely inhibited it's ability to metastisize. There have also been similar studies done showing that cannabinoids inhibit angiogenesis of tumors in glioblastoma which is one of the most aggresive forms of brain cancer. Angiogenesis is the formation of new blood vessels to feed cancerous cells, by inhibiting this you starve cancer cells. These studies have been peer reviewed and published.

Just because a lot of irresponsible idiots might smoke pot doesn't mean that pot made them idiots or irresponsible. I always did all my school work and waited till I was done with work before sparking up.


couldn't have been said any better.

sassyma's photo
Tue 01/01/08 03:44 PM

its true, look into it you would be surprised
Are you familiar with the position that there is some truth to every lie? Yes, the government has had a hand in creating the illegal drug trade. Does that make it more acceptable? Does it excuse users who continue to support that trade?

No.

i am well aware that there is some truth every lie... didnt say it made it acceptable did i?? pretty sure i didnt. my point is everyone is so quick to point fingers at your everyday average person who does it, but isnt willing to look at the source of where it came from.. like the fact that the government used to use our dead soldiers to smuggle heroin in there body bags when they were being returned home to be laid to rest.. doesnt make much sense does it. but the fact remains, it is here and there is more dirt up the governments sleeve then we are of.