https://www.pnas.org/content/114/51/13412

In other words if Americans, Europeans and Japanese gave up steak then greenhouse gases 'related to the production of the food they eat' would fall by 13 percent to 25 percent - more than due to the emissions from cars / trucks

Some food for thought.

Wanna pick who gets to starve to death first?

Start considering how much petroleum the modern farm uses. And how much LESS food there will be in the world. I'd say a cut of 50% is covervative.

Go find me a 250 drawbar horsepower electric tractor. That will last all day on one charge.

Here's a good one for you- How much feed does it take to get a turkey to weigh 25 pounds?

Interesting Red, that you are taking this thread to a meaningful level.

When one works with farmers, one tends to respond to ag related questions, or observations.

What did you give up for Global Warming or acid rain?
All proven to be money grabbing hoaxes.

The climate has changed for as long as there has been a climate.
The climate was changing long before Homo sapiens came into existence.

According to the settled science of astronomy, Earth's climate will slowly grow warmer no matter what Homo sapiens do because the Sun is slowly growing brighter.

What ya gonna do with all the cows??

Regardless if one gives up beef the cows will still be there.. Unless one is planning on killing them all..


All I can say you can eat all the greens ya want to just send your share of the beef my way~~~

Matter of fact fixing to go marinate the steak that I'm eating today~~

In reality, I don't think that there's enough arable and viable agricultural land to feed everyone and meat contains vital and essential elements that you don't find elsewhere. Plus, as TxsGal says, we'd have to slaughter all the animals that we currently raise for meat etc, as they would no longer be needed and be a drain on the resources we would need to feed ourselves.

I eat a lot of vegetables and the problem is, eating loads of vegetables creates gass (ask the cows)
my question is this.

If we all suddenly switched to eating loads of wegetables and stuff, wouldn't we then become the primary source of greenhouse gas?
If my theory is right we could be on the brink of farting ourselves into an early demise. I wonder if anyone has botherecd to work it out.

We just need more trees to mop it up.

If you have 30 mins watch this quiet little film. its got little to do with the topic of giving up steak etc. But the message is valid I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTvYh8ar3tc

hey plant a few trees instead. Then you can have a good steak with a clear concience

Over here some idiot thought of cutting down trees by the thousands cause of the nitrogen crisis we have. I believe they've already started doing so.
They blame the trees for the crisis. Go figure how thick politicians get when they've been in office too long.

I find it VERY hard to believe that livestock and cattle produce as much or more as all vehicles and planes combined.
So much so that I do not believe it. I believe this is all part of the huge scam of Codex Alimentarius which was designed shortly after WW2 by ppl in America and ex Nazi scientist, also in America, to control the world population with food.
Food is something we all need, so control food, you control the people.

In my country as good as all farmers will have to stop their work cause they cannot live up to the new even stricter regulation forced upon them by government due to the invented nitrogen crisis.
Government is going to buy out all farmers!!!
Of course we'll still need meat and milk and cheese, which then will be imported from e.g. Easter Europe where they just use pesticides, anti-biotics etc. In other words: unhealthy.
What country gets rid of its farmers??? Insanity!

Farmers have protested en masse some 3 times, came from all over the country with tractors, to The Hague. To no avail.
So soon I guess we won't have farmers anymore
And we will end up eating and drinking milk and meat and cheese that is full of toxic chit while our own farmers produce healthy stuff due to the current regulations and being monitored...

I tell you, all part of Codex Alimentarius. The US does their GM chit, we're getting rid of farmers.

I don't eat much of anything anymore (I have trouble finishing a cheeseburger now).
Even when I was providing for a family of 6 we didn't eat a lot of steak, lamb or cheese.
We ate a different things, a lot of pork, chicken and fish.

In the grocery store I use there are many different meats.
Beef
Lamb
Pork
Alligator
Many different types of fish and seafood
Chicken
Turkey
Quail

Beef is the most costly along with lamb, alligator and some seafoods.
Quail is seasonal and very expensive.

Mainly, people I know eat chicken the most, then pork, then some kind of fish.
They do eat a lot of ground beef tho.

Every meat sold fresh come from some type of industry.
Farmers provide the staple food then you have fisheries that provide seafoods.
The carbon footprint of beef and lamb is not really that different than the other meats.
I believe fisheries do more damage to the ecological balance than the land farmers.
Mega trawlers pull up miles of net filled with fish.

In some twisted fantasy, you could say the removal of mass quanities of fish from the ocean might cause the oceans to cool because there is not as much movement in the oceans.
It could upset the balance of the great ocean conveyor belt.
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/conveyor.html

http://animalsaustralia.org/features/super-scary-super-trawlers.php

I'd say, eating fish is worse for the global environment than eating beef or lamb.

Our species global population is nearing 10 billion.
As time marches on, Soylent Green gets closer and closer to becoming reality.

I'm tired of hypocrites who use thousands of times the resources that I do, that I and people like me need to give up this or that, eat insects etc to save the planet, when they have no intention of giving up anything.

There isn't a single era in the Earth's history,
when the climate wasn't changing.
Even long before, the first humans/hominids
are estimated to have taken their first breaths
on the planet.

I'll take my steak, rare/medium.

In New Zealand we use cow poo to help our vegetables grow.

Everything in moderation seems a fair call

I'm not giving up eating beef. Just because some nut jobs think that's going to save the world doesn't mean I have to follow. If they'd stop tearing down state forests the trees would suck up all the farts so we wouldn't have to smell them.

I supplement beef consumption with pork.
I especially like breaded, thin sliced, fried beef, with brown gravy.

Acid rain was real and a real threat in some locations, but the threat was exaggerated with regard to most locales.

Anthropogenic climate change is largely mythological.