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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2. - part 2
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Sat 05/04/19 02:36 AM
House Democrats seek to intervene against Trump lawsuit over bank subpoenas


"NEW YORK (Reuters) - Two committees of the Democrat-controlled U.S. House of Representatives on Friday asked to intervene in a lawsuit filed by President Donald Trump, his three oldest children and the Trump Organization seeking to block House subpoenas seeking financial records from Deutsche Bank AG and Capital One Financial Corp.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-banks/house-democrats-seek-to-intervene-against-trump-lawsuit-over-bank-subpoenas-idUSKCN1S921P"

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Sat 05/04/19 01:32 PM
Trump Retweets Far-Right YouTube Star in Attack on Social Media

"(Bloomberg) -- Trump retweeted about a dozen messages Saturday morning, including two by a well-known right-wing personality, as he continued to assail what he says is bad treatment of “conservative thinkers” on social media such as Facebook.

The president also called for the “Radical Left Wing Media” to apologize for what he called “Russian Collusion Delusion.” He hasn’t so far commented on an overnight weapons test by North Korea".

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-04/trump-retweets-far-right-youtube-star-in-attack-on-social-media

I hate to say it, but I feel like it's the truth. Many people are stupid when it comes to politics and the crap they will believe. One of my own cousins actually believes the political bullshyt that is posted on FB. And when I question him about it, he can't give me a straight answer and 99% of the time he's wrong in his belief. And can't even back it up with reasonable thought. I've even shown him proof that many of what he thinks is right, isn't. He is constantly passing around full out lies on FB.

On this thread, I will not show what he posted. But what he posted got him banned from FB. Forever. I think FB was right in banning him. This is the type of crap and lies that Trump wants to keep feeding people. Because he knows that some will believe what he says without question. He knows that it will be easy for his buddy in Russia to get his botnet going and posting all sorts of lies. Trump wants to keep feeding his base the bullshyt they need to hear. When you take away FB you take away a large propaganda machine.

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Sat 05/04/19 02:42 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sat 05/04/19 02:44 PM
A real American president, (dictator wannabe) wouldn't stand for this. Much less kiss his azz.(Kim Jong Un )


Trump says still confident in Kim after N.Korea test launch

"Washington (AFP) - Trump voiced confidence Saturday that Kim Jong Un would not "break his promise," following what if confirmed would be North Korea's first short-range missile launch for more than a year.

"Anything in this very interesting world is possible," Trump tweeted, after Seoul said Pyongyang had launched several unidentified projectiles into the sea.

"But I believe that Kim Jong Un fully realizes the great economic potential of North Korea, & will do nothing to interfere or end it," he added".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-fires-short-range-projectiles-seoul-022507691.html

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Sat 05/04/19 02:53 PM
Facebook, Instagram ban Alex Jones, Milo Gianopoulos, other extremist figures

"Facebook is banning several extreme figures from its platform, accusing users like Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulous of inciting hate speech, which violates the company's rules. CBS News contributor and WIRED editor-in-chief Nick Thompson reports on the new policy, and CNET senior producer Dan Patterson joins CBSN to discuss the implications".

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/05/instagram-and-facebook-ban-far-right-extremists/588607/

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Sat 05/04/19 05:19 PM
Broken promises?


N.Korea says tests rocket launchers after firing projectiles

"Seoul (AFP) - North Korea said Sunday it had tested long-range multiple rocket launchers and tactical guided weapons, a day after Pyongyang appeared to have launched its first short-range missile in more than a year".

http://www.apnews.com/fb6fc86cf2624f9aaf68837d1d0a220d

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Sat 05/04/19 05:44 PM
The Latest: Trump says he and Putin discussed the Mueller report


"2:40 p.m.

President Donald Trump says he discussed special counsel Robert Mueller's report with Russian President Vladimir Putin during an extended phone call on Friday. Trump says Putin described the Russia probe as "something to the effect that it started off as a mountain and it ended up being a mouse".

http://www.apnews.com/406c5111f99243d280857419d7b9c1e8

During their conversation Trump asked Putin if he should allow Don McGahn to testify in Congress. Seriously. I am genuinely interested to hear a good faith defense of this conduct from Trump supporters.
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The Mueller Report - Volume II for Dummies

((( A ))) ------Mueller did find evidence Trump had obstructed justice in 10 areas--------

Pages 15 - 156

1. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump (15 - 23)
2. The Presidents Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn (24 - 48)
3. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBI's Russia Investigation (48 - 61)
4. Events Up to and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Comey (61 - 77)
5. The President Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel (77 - 90)
6. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation (90 - 98)
7. The President's Efforts to Prevent Disclosure of Emails About the 6/9/16 Meeting Between Russians and Senior Campaign Officials (98 - 107)
8. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation (107 - 120)
9. The President's Conduct Towards Manafort, Flynn, [READACTED] (120 - 133)
10. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen (134 - 156)

page 157

"Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that was capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations.

The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General' s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony."

Page 8 Paragraph 3 & Page 182, paragraph 1 (CONCLUSION)

" If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

((( B )))-----Mueller did not indict Trump because of DOJ policy of not indicting a president and said accusing Trump of committing a crime would place burdens on his ability to carry out his Constitutional duties.

Page 1, Paragraph 4:

"We first describe the considerations that guided our obstruction-of-justice investigation...:

The Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) has issued an opinion finding that "the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would impermissibly undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions " in violation of "the constitutional separation of powers." ... this Office accepted OLC ' s legal conclusion for the purpose of exercising prosecutorial jurisdiction.

And....we recognized that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting President would place burdens on the President's capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct. "

Volume II, Page 15, Paragraph 2

"Consistent with our jurisdiction to investigate federal obstruction crimes, we gathered evidence that is relevant to the elements of those crimes and analyzed them...while refraining from reaching ultimate conclusions about whether crimes were committed,..."

((( C )))----Mueller said Congress should apply the laws to his findings because no one is above the law.----------------

Page 8, Paragraph 2

We concluded that in the rare case in which a criminal investigation of the President' s conduct is justified, inquiries to determine whether the President acted for a corrupt motive should not impermissibly chill his performance of his constitutionally assigned duties. The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law."



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Sat 05/04/19 07:25 PM
Edited by tombraider on Sat 05/04/19 07:48 PM




Here let me crush it all ...laugh


DEAD MEAT ALL!! AG Barr has HAD ENOUGH OF THE CROOKS FINALLY RELEASED THIS TO END EVERYTHING!! OH WOW!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb14oxMiq8

Not to mention that not finding an obstruction charge had NOTHING to do with indicting a sitting president..MUELLER said this 3 times


(((BOOOM)))..THE END..laugh


ODD How the Dems won't go and read the whole UNREDACTED REPORT it's out for them to do so, the only people who have were REPUBLICANS..noway

And as far as Trump meeting with Putin ..yea well that's what world leaders do..been doing it for decades..they meet with each other and discuss world issues..of course it depends on what spin the main stream media wishes to brain wash the masses with in order to get them to believe there is something wrong with it... laugh ..


HERE COMES THE PAIN..



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Sat 05/04/19 09:02 PM





Here let me crush it all ...laugh


DEAD MEAT ALL!! AG Barr has HAD ENOUGH OF THE CROOKS FINALLY RELEASED THIS TO END EVERYTHING!! OH WOW!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb14oxMiq8

Not to mention that not finding an obstruction charge had NOTHING to do with indicting a sitting president..MUELLER said this 3 times


(((BOOOM)))..THE END..laugh


ODD How the Dems won't go and read the whole UNREDACTED REPORT it's out for them to do so, the only people who have were REPUBLICANS..noway

And as far as Trump meeting with Putin ..yea well that's what world leaders do..been doing it for decades..they meet with each other and discuss world issues..of course it depends on what spin the main stream media wishes to brain wash the masses with in order to get them to believe there is something wrong with it... laugh ..


HERE COMES THE PAIN..





Another half-truth. That's all you have. Those two lawmakers, They didn't see the full report either. You need to get your half-truths straight. Your video holds no water. You can tell it's been edited to sound like something it isn't.


Just 2 lawmakers have seen less-redacted Mueller report


"On the eve of Attorney General William Barr’s testimony on a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report, only two lawmakers have set eyes on secret information that Barr withheld from public view.

Barr offered access to a less-redacted version of the report to just 12 members of Congress — six Democrats and six Republicans. But as of Tuesday afternoon, only Rep. Doug Collins, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, opted to view it. A third, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he planned to review the report later Tuesday".

"The six Democrats to whom Barr offered access to the report boycotted en masse, complaining that Barr should have provided a fully unredacted report to a broader set of lawmakers investigating Trump’s conduct. House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler has subpoenaed Barr and the Justice Department for the full report and Mueller’s underlying evidence. The deadline for compliance is May 1".


http://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/30/mueller-report-redacted-1295105





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Sun 05/05/19 12:32 PM
Fines, jail time? Trump team resists oversight, Dems dig in

"WASHINGTON (AP) — They're talking at the Capitol about jailing people. Imposing steep fines. All sorts of extraordinary, if long-shot measures to force the White House to comply with Democratic lawmakers' request for information about President Donald Trump stemming from the special counsel's Russia investigation".

"One of the things that everybody in this country needs to think about is when the president denies the Congress documents and access to key witnesses, basically what they're doing is saying, Congress you don't count," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee.


http://www.apnews.com/713456ee20414849bc11f296e7d9e71c

At blatant attempt to cover up and withhold information. Looks a lot like obstruction of justice too.

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Sun 05/05/19 02:14 PM
Trump says Mueller should not testify: 'No redos for the Dems!'

"As Democrats set a tentative date for Robert Mueller to testify before Congress, President Trump said the special counsel shouldn't testify and called for “no redos” of the two-year probe that found no conspiracy between him and Russia. "

http://news.yahoo.com/president-trump-says-mueller-should-not-testify-no-redos-for-the-dems-192933793.html



So far Trump has kept the Democrats from digging up anything. Same thing here with Mueller. Trump has to still be afraid of what Mueller will tell under oath. They already know that Mueller isn't happy about how his report was released. Trump still has things to hide. Mueller could potentially under oath hang Trump. And Trump knows it. It has nothing to do with the bullshyt he spews, 'No redos for the Dems!' lol, yeah, It's more about deflect, deny, lie, try to hide or cover up to keep the Democrats from finding something damning. Try to impede them any way he can. Which, in the end, adds up to obstruction.


Seriously though, Sometimes I think the Democrats should just step back. They already know that the New York AG is waiting his turn at Trump. Let the New York courts have him. When Trump leaves office NY will go after him for what they have on him. Let them deal with. Maybe the Democrats should get their attention on beating him in 2020 so he doesn't get another 4 embarrassing years. And make NY have to wait another 4 years to get at him. He may not live that long.

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Sun 05/05/19 08:34 PM
So far the only one that seems to be talking sense.

Pelosi worries Trump 'would poison the public mind' if he narrowly loses reelection bid

"The only way President Trump will accept defeat in the 2020 election is if Democrats win by a big enough margin that he can’t dispute it, argues House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“If we win by four seats, by a thousand votes each, he’s not going to respect the election,” said Pelosi in an interview with the New York Times.

“He would poison the public mind. He would challenge each of the races; he would say you can’t seat these people,” she added and referenced the 40 House seats gained by Democrats in 2018 midterm elections. “We had to win. Imagine if we hadn’t won — oh, don’t even imagine. So, as we go forward, we have to have the same approach".

http://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-worries-trump-would-poison-the-public-mind-if-he-narrowly-loses-reelection-bid-152712788.html


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Sun 05/05/19 08:40 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/05/19 08:40 PM





Here let me crush it all ...laugh


DEAD MEAT ALL!! AG Barr has HAD ENOUGH OF THE CROOKS FINALLY RELEASED THIS TO END EVERYTHING!! OH WOW!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb14oxMiq8

Not to mention that not finding an obstruction charge had NOTHING to do with indicting a sitting president..MUELLER said this 3 times


(((BOOOM)))..THE END..laugh


ODD How the Dems won't go and read the whole UNREDACTED REPORT it's out for them to do so, the only people who have were REPUBLICANS..noway

And as far as Trump meeting with Putin ..yea well that's what world leaders do..been doing it for decades..they meet with each other and discuss world issues..of course it depends on what spin the main stream media wishes to brain wash the masses with in order to get them to believe there is something wrong with it... laugh ..


HERE COMES THE PAIN..






You are right, leaders meet with other leaders.

Just like husbands spend time with wives. That doesnt mean husbands dont also murder those wives, or leaders dont also conspire with other leaders.

The same report that said there was no collusion said there were incidents of potential obstruction. so either the report is to be believed or its not. it seems many want to say the no collusion part is all that should matter.

Imagine this. A woman is murdered. an investigation discovers she was also raped. They find the person who raped her, but because he didnt murder her and it wasnt what INITIATED the investigation, he wants them to just let him pass. It doesnt work that way.






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Sun 05/05/19 08:47 PM
All the Terrifying Things That Donald Trump Did Lately

"It’s been less than five months since Donald Trump became commander-in-chief. But for the president’s detractors, it’s felt like centuries — long medieval centuries chock-full of plague, illiteracy, and barbarians running roughshod through the ruins of the old republic. But we aren’t actually living in the dark ages (yet). So we might as well shed some light on what the barbarians have been up to.

Trump has given progressives so many causes for fear and outrage, it can be difficult — both practically and psychologically — to keep on top of them all as they happen.

To help you stay informed despite this challenge, Daily Intelligencer will provide regular inventories of Trump’s assaults on civic norms, common decency, and/or liberal democracy. Here is a rundown of everything the president has done on that front in the period between April 28 (the date of our last edition of “Terrifying Things”) and June 9, arranged in rough order of each affront’s apparent significance and severity. Prior editions can be found below".

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/06/every-terrifying-thing-that-donald-trump-has-done.html

LEST WE FORGET THE HORRORS: A CATALOG OF TRUMP’S WORST CRUELTIES, COLLUSIONS, CORRUPTIONS, AND CRIMES

"THE COMPLETE LISTING (SO FAR): ATROCITIES".

"(1) – February 10, 2011 – In 2011, Donald Trump stoked false claims that Barack Obama had lied about his education. During a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump said, “Our current president came out of nowhere. Came out of nowhere. In fact, I’ll go a step further: The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don’t know who he is. It’s crazy.” This is false. Numerous accounts from Obama’s college classmates refute Trump’s claim, including Obama’s Columbia roommate, Phil Doerner."


http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-546


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Mon 05/06/19 10:03 AM

“Our current president came out of nowhere. Came out of nowhere. In fact, I’ll go a step further: The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don’t know who he is. It’s crazy.” This is false. Numerous accounts from Obama’s college classmates refute Trump’s claim, including Obama’s Columbia roommate, Phil Doerner."


Nothing that man says or does surprises me. No doubt the usual pessimist from the grave will try to deny that statement and make further references to the pain he must feel being a Trumpoholic!

The rest of us can enjoy the joke.

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Mon 05/06/19 10:39 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 05/06/19 10:40 AM
oops oops

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Mon 05/06/19 12:30 PM
Hundreds of former prosecutors say evidence against Trump supports charges

"If Donald Trump weren’t the president of the United States, he would have been charged with obstruction of justice, nearly 400 former federal prosecutors and Justice Department officials said Monday in an extraordinary public letter".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-would-have-been-charged-with-obstruction-if-he-were-not-president-379-former-prosecutors-say-181955217.html


STATEMENT BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS


"We are former federal prosecutors. We served under both Republican and Democratic administrations at different levels of the federal system: as line attorneys, supervisors, special prosecutors, United States Attorneys, and senior officials at the Department of Justice. The offices in which we served were small, medium, and large; urban, suburban, and rural; and located in all parts of our country".

http://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1

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Mon 05/06/19 12:45 PM
Judge approves $25 million Trump University settlement

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-university-settlement-approved-gonzalo-curiel-236756

Trump University Is Like Other For-Profit Colleges But Without The Degree

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/18/480668701/trump-university-is-like-other-for-profit-colleges-but-without-the-degree



Trump appears to claim he should receive two extra years as president amid increasing fears he won't accept result of 2020 election

"Trump has appeared to claim he should receive an additional two years as president in “reparations” for the Mueller investigation.

The US president shared on Sunday a tweet by Jerry Falwell Jr, president of evangelical Christian university Liberty University and a prominent supporter of Mr Trump".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-2020-election-vote-twitter-mueller-investigation-jerry-falwell-a8901256.html

Since Trump spent the first year stating that he wasn't a subject of the investigation and since Trump didn't spend ANY time actually talking to any investigators during those two years, any failures of leadership or loss of time is entirely self-inflicted by the President and his supporters. Neither the Constitution nor common sense rewards such weakness in Presidential character.


Surprise threat from Trump to raise tariffs sinks stocks

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/surprise-threat-trump-raise-tariffs-sinks-stocks-141005923.html

UPDATE 1-Trump slams China on trade, says won't lose to Beijing

http://www.reuters.com/article/usa-china-trade-trump/update-1-trump-slams-china-on-trade-says-wont-lose-to-beijing-idUSL2N22I08S







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Mon 05/06/19 04:37 PM
Treasury denies Democrats' request for Trump tax returns


"The move, which was expected, is sure to set in motion a legal battle over Trump's tax returns. The chief options available to Democrats are to subpoena the IRS for the returns or to file a lawsuit. Last week, Neal promised "we'll be ready" to act soon after Monday's deadline".

http://www.apnews.com/ce215295783e419d8896d50bc7907107

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Mon 05/06/19 04:43 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 05/06/19 04:47 PM

Hundreds of former prosecutors say evidence against Trump supports charges

"If Donald Trump weren’t the president of the United States, he would have been charged with obstruction of justice, nearly 400 former federal prosecutors and Justice Department officials said Monday in an extraordinary public letter".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-would-have-been-charged-with-obstruction-if-he-were-not-president-379-former-prosecutors-say-181955217.html


STATEMENT BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS


"We are former federal prosecutors. We served under both Republican and Democratic administrations at different levels of the federal system: as line attorneys, supervisors, special prosecutors, United States Attorneys, and senior officials at the Department of Justice. The offices in which we served were small, medium, and large; urban, suburban, and rural; and located in all parts of our country".

http://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1


"More than 400 former federal prosecutors said Monday they believed President Donald Trump would have been charged with obstruction of justice in the Mueller investigation if not for rules against indicting a sitting president. In a list that includes Bill Weld, a former U.S. attorney, and former Massachusetts governor who's running against Trump as a Republican, some 419 individuals said Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report “describes several acts that satisfy all of the elements for an obstruction charge. They listed Trump's directing then-White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller, among other acts. ..."





http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-would-have-been-charged-with-obstruction-if-he-werent-president-according-to-375-exfederal-prosecutors-2019-05-06?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo



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Mon 05/06/19 04:53 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 05/06/19 04:57 PM
Democrats Prepare Contempt Order for Attorney General William Barr

"Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee announced Monday that they were beginning the first stages of contempt proceedings against Attorney General William Barr after the Department of Justice failed to provide an unredacted copy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report".

http://time.com/5583868/william-barr-contempt-congress/

DOJ moves to fend off Barr contempt vote

"The Justice Department on Monday tried to head off a contempt of Congress proceeding against Attorney General William Barr, offering House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) the chance to negotiate about the committee’s subpoena for special counsel Robert Mueller’s unredacted report".

http://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/06/democrats-prepare-to-hold-william-barr-in-contempt-1302982

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