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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2. - part 2
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Fri 04/19/19 11:30 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 04/19/19 11:32 AM




If you like Trump than you see the Mueller report as a end to a which hunt, if you don't like Trump than you see this as a dagger in your heart, so you hang on to a last ditch effort to build support for a possible impeachment, Could this be a blessing in disguise to revenge a twenty year old scar ( the impeachment of Bill Clinton). It is well known that this is not a important topic for voters. It will not influence the voters choice for president.The democrats have invested two years worth of stating false narritives of having seen evidence of collusion,it's not easy to just let it go after being wrong time and time again. Who thinks that it is time to get on with the important problems we face? #1 the crisis at the border.


By definition, I believe 'important' problems should always be addressed. By practicality, they cant all be addressed all at once, but can be addressed several at a time. I don't believe the border should be priority of those problems.

Priorities, to me, are things like poverty and drugs, which are claiming many more lives than any immigrants at the border.

I believe, as Trump himself nailed it, that he could MURDER someone and his supporters would not bat an eye in support. The investigation was into Russian interference, a TANGENT and relevant off shoot of that would be if a POTUS was involved. The investigation happened as it should. I understand the reasons for it and I believe any honest POTUS would welcome and understand it as well. They neither cleared nor charged the POTUS. I still feel, as is rightly assumed, that he is a sneaky con man and much of what is in the report points to how sneaky he is.

In offices of political power, even an appearance of impropriety gets investigated. Ask Hilary about her emails, or Clinton about his affair. it comes with the territory. If there is nothing to find, so be it. But no one knows what there is to find without trying to look first.

Congress will decide its next steps and more will come. I never believed he would be impeached, although I do personally believe his dealings are much more dangerous than a POTUS having an affair or lying about it. I didn't believe Clinton should be impeached, nor do I believe there is enough to impeach Trump. I just would like someone to replace him sooner than later, and hope enough educated voters turn out to make that happen at the polls.



I agree with you. I never really believed he would be impeached. But, it's already crystal clear that he's dirty. One proof of that is how he was running the Trump charity. He and family treating it like it was there own personal piggy bank. As far as I know, at least at this point, the New York AG is waiting his turn at Trump. It's not like we don't already know he's crooked.

I think Mueller knows it. Back in the day when I was a cop, sometimes we knew someone was dirty. But they always seemed to fly just under the radar. Just enough that it made it hard to make a good case against them. But sooner or later they would finally screw up and leave one small speck of evidence. And that small speck was enough to put them away forever.

They know Trump is dirty. But is it dirty enough? That's the question. That's why Mueller left it the way he did. Now, it's up to the Democrats in the house to find that dirt. That dirt that they can add to what they already know. The dirt that will make a prosecutable case that will stick. Dirt that Trump can't talk his way out of. It remains to be seen.

It ain't over yet. Today was just the beginning.




some folks never learn. Everybody knows Trump did nothing wrong as the report says, written by known TRUMP haters ( how's that for a justice system that is supposed to be non- bias.) That's how democrats roll though. If the democrats continue to promote this fake notion and spend the next two years wasting time with investigations it will be to their detriment and another four years of success for our country. I fill relieved knowing my president is using his time in office to, make this country greater instead of a president using his time in office to sexually assault interns.


A few things are incorrect here. I wouldnt be so sure who this POTUS who feels he is entitled to 'grab women by the p***y"is assaulting. And why is he so upset about a report if it shows he 'did nothing wrong'?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attacks-total-bull-in-the-crazy-mueller-report-134949958.html


now, prey tell, why would a POTUS who was exclaiming a report totally 'exhonnerated' him, call the same report BS? Can't make up his mind? Or cant be bothered to be anything but a con saying whatever is clever moment by moment with no real consistency or trustworthiness? Or maybe he just cant be bothered to read anything or surround himself with anything but yes men.



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Fri 04/19/19 11:58 AM
Trump sought to obstruct Mueller — but White House aides wouldn't do it, report finds

"WASHINGTON — President Trump committed “multiple acts” aimed at obstructing the Russia investigation, but was ultimately saved from being charged with a crime in part because his top aides refused to carry out his orders".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sought-to-obstruct-mueller-but-white-house-aides-wouldnt-do-it-report-finds-190027416.html

This speaks volumes. It shows intent. If his aids had gone along with him he would be in deeper trouble than he already is. This shows just how crooked he is. His aids had better sense than he does. If they had carried out his orders they would be in deep shyt right now right along with him. They were smarter than him. The self-proclaimed genius.

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Fri 04/19/19 01:47 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 04/19/19 01:53 PM
Sanders defends her Comey lie as 'slip of the tongue.' Then she lies again.

"After special counsel, Robert Mueller’s report revealed she had lied about the reaction to FBI Director James Comey’s firing, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders went on a Friday-morning media blitz attempting to reestablish her credibility. It resulted in her telling more lies".

http://news.yahoo.com/sarah-sanders-lie-james-comey-mueller-report-134028487.html

Trump was ‘fighting for his political life,’ his former lawyer says, explaining attacks on Mueller

"Cobb’s comments came in the wake of new evidence in Mueller’s report that has fired up Democrats on Capitol Hill and prompted them to press ahead with their own investigations into the conduct. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler on Friday subpoenaed the Justice Department for a full unredacted copy of the report and plans to call Attorney General William Barr and Mueller himself to testify in coming weeks".

http://news.yahoo.com/trump-was-fighting-for-his-political-life-his-former-lawyer-says-explaining-attacks-on-mueller-172008662.html

Democrats make legal bid for all Russia probe evidence, Trump poll numbers drop

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congressional Democrats on Friday took legal action to get hold of all of U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's evidence from his inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, as the probe's findings hit President Donald Trump's poll ratings.

The number of Americans who approve of Trump dropped by 3 percentage points to the lowest level of the year following the release of a redacted version of Mueller's report on Thursday, according to a Reuters/Ipsos online opinion poll". Mueller did not establish that the Trump campaign coordinated with Russians but did find “multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations.”

While Mueller ultimately decided not to charge Trump with a crime such as obstruction of justice, color=red]he also said that the investigation did not exonerate the president, either.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-poll/trump-approval-drops-3-points-to-2019-low-after-release-of-mueller-report-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1RV16S

http://news.yahoo.com/mueller-report-gives-democrats-political-ammunition-split-050726648.html

Nancy Pelosi Plans Monday Meeting On Mueller Report: 'Congress Will Not Be Silent'

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) organized a meeting with House Democrats scheduled after the Easter weekend to discuss what to do next in response to the release of Robert Mueller’s long-awaited redacted report.

Pelosi asked for the conference call to take place on Monday in a letter to Democrats. In her letter, Pelosi described the special counsel’s findings as a “grave matter.”

The speaker also said the nature in which the Justice Department released the findings was “disrespectfully late” and “selectively redacted".

http://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/nancy-pelosi-conference-democrats-mueller-032835217.html

Donald Trump denounces 'Crazy Mueller Report,' calls statements about him 'fabricated' and 'untrue'

"WASHINGTON – A day after claiming vindication, President Donald Trump angrily attacked Robert Mueller's Russia report on Friday, calling it "crazy" and using a barnyard epithet to describe some of its conclusions about his actions.

"Statements are made about me by certain people in the Crazy Mueller Report, in itself written by 18 Angry Democrat Trump Haters, which are fabricated & totally untrue," Trump tweeted".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-denounces-apos-crazy-123018677.html


Didn't we all expect this? Trump will try his best to talk his way out of this. He knows what's left of his base still believes his and his talking heads lies. He knows that there are still suckers out there that believe him no matter the proof otherwise. No matter whether they get caught in there lies on camera for the whole world to see and hear.

Do you honestly think that Mueller would invite Congress to investigate Trump even farther if he didn't feel there was a good reason? I can remember situations like this when I was a cop. We knew the guy was dirty. But, we would turn over what we had to a prosecutor and let him investigate things further. Much the same with Mueller. He knows Trump is probably dirty. So now it's up to Congress to carry the case the rest of the way. Trump is dirty. And they know it. It's a case of how dirty? And is it enough to make a case that will stick?

If Trump thinks it's fabricated or untrue, Prove it. Don't talk shyt. Prove it.


In his report, Mueller invites Congress to investigate Trump obstruction

"Special counsel Robert Mueller wrote in his report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign that although he lacked sufficient evidence to clear or charge President Trump on possible obstruction of justice, Congress could take up the issue.

“We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a president’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice,” Mueller wrote in his 448-page report, a redacted version of which was released by the Justice Department Thursday".


http://www.yahoo.com/news/in-his-report-mueller-says-congress-could-take-action-on-trump-obstruction-152454775.html












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Fri 04/19/19 05:22 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 04/19/19 05:26 PM
Mueller report: Donald Trump failed us as commander-in-chief

"The President of the United States, like all elected officials and public servants, swears to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies. But there is one responsibility the president must bear alone, and that is the obligation to act as the commander in chief, the guardian of our national security and the defender of our nation from malevolent foreign powers. The Mueller report makes clear that Donald Trump has failed miserably in this sacred obligation, and instead has traded his constitutional duty for his own safety.

Mueller’s conclusions lay to rest some — but not all — of the legal issues surrounding the Russian attempts to subvert our democratic processes. As the report notes, Mueller’s team could not find a specific agreement between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to cooperate in an operation against American institutions.

For this, we should be grateful, but that’s about as far as the good news goes".

As a team of writers at Lawfare put it, Trump’s people “were aware the Russians sought to help them win. They welcomed that assistance. Instead of warning the American public, they instead devised a public relations and campaign strategy that seeks to capitalize on Russia’s illicit assistance. In other words, the Russians and the Trump campaign shared a common goal, and each side worked to achieve that goal with basic knowledge of the other side’s intention. They just didn’t agree to work toward that goal together.”


http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/19/mueller-report-trump-commander-in-chief-russia-oath-column/3506216002/


Attorney General William Barr’s summary of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report vindicates, without reservation, President Donald Trump's insistence that there was no collusion with the Russians regarding the 2016 campaign.

"Clearing the president and his campaign of a provable conspiracy is a matter of law. But as a matter of national security, Barr’s letter does not clear up very much about the relationship between the Trump inner circle and the Russians, or about the behavior of the president himself.

There is unambiguously good news for the president in Barr’s letter. Most important, it means that on the central question Mueller was asked to investigate, there is no evidence to link the Trump campaign to the Russian government. This is not the same thing as saying that people in the Trump campaign were not involved in shady dealings with bad people, but it lays to rest — and for this, we should all be thankful — the possibility that the president of the United States knowingly cooperated with an enemy government in seeking election.


This, however, is an odd finding and one that is difficult to square with how many people are in legal trouble for lying about this very issue. If there was no canoodling with the Russians, why was there so much lying? How did Mueller manage to unravel what looks like a tangle of deceptions about Russia — and then reach a conclusion that there was no collusion with the Russians?



http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/03/25/trump-russia-questions-unanswered-after-mueller-report-barr-letter-column/3264104002/

Trump's 'total and complete exoneration' turns out to be fake news


"The problem for Trump is that even the redacted version of the special counsel’s report (no quotation marks or capitalization required) made clear that although the president was not charged with crimes, his actions could not be easily dismissed as innocent".

http://news.yahoo.com/trumps-total-and-complete-exoneration-turns-out-to-be-fake-news-193957445.html

Attempted Obstruction of Justice


How to Get Away With Obstruction of Justice

"Robert Mueller's report makes a convincing case that Trump attempted to abuse his power. Why didn't the special counsel charge him, then? The Justice Department has released special counsel Robert Mueller’s 448-page report and titled it, dryly, “Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election.” A more accurate title would be “A President’s Guide to Obstructing Justice and Getting Away With It".

http://newrepublic.com/article/153621/trump-got-away-attempted-obstruction-justice




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Fri 04/19/19 08:42 PM
If the Russians tried to interfere in the 2016 presidential election it would have been motivated by Hillary attempting to interfere in their 2011 Russian election.

What is an insult to the American voter is claiming the entire public was duped into voting for President Trump. We voted for Donald Trump because we liked what he said and we were voting against another four to eight years of Obama socialism under Hillary Clinton.

Anti-Trump advocates can't or won't acknowledge this.

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Fri 04/19/19 10:55 PM

If the Russians tried to interfere in the 2016 presidential election it would have been motivated by Hillary attempting to interfere in their 2011 Russian election.

What is an insult to the American voter is claiming the entire public was duped into voting for President Trump. We voted for Donald Trump because we liked what he said and we were voting against another four to eight years of Obama socialism under Hillary Clinton.

Anti-Trump advocates can't or won't acknowledge this.


I don't believe its quite the 'entire public'. Only 47 percent of eligible voters showed, and slightly less than HALF of them voted Trump.


I can definitely acknowledge that the Russians would have chosen anyone over Hilary because she would have been hard on them. But the problem lies in whether or not they sought favors in return on any level from the incoming administration, understanding that it was also something that administration would favor and benefit from. And whether the POTUS used the position to try to interfere with investigating that possibility.








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Sat 04/20/19 12:29 AM


If the Russians tried to interfere in the 2016 presidential election it would have been motivated by Hillary attempting to interfere in their 2011 Russian election.

What is an insult to the American voter is claiming the entire public was duped into voting for President Trump. We voted for Donald Trump because we liked what he said and we were voting against another four to eight years of Obama socialism under Hillary Clinton.

Anti-Trump advocates can't or won't acknowledge this.


I don't believe its quite the 'entire public'. Only 47 percent of eligible voters showed, and slightly less than HALF of them voted Trump.


I can definitely acknowledge that the Russians would have chosen anyone over Hilary because she would have been hard on them. But the problem lies in whether or not they sought favors in return on any level from the incoming administration, understanding that it was also something that administration would favor and benefit from. And whether the POTUS used the position to try to interfere with investigating that possibility.










I think this is what he's talking about. Even though this isn't interfering. This is telling the truth straight too Putin. And that's what pissed him off and caused him to order the break-in at the DNC. It's not like Hillary ordered the Russian election to be meddled with. She never ordered anyone to break into Putin's email server and steal his emails. He11 no, Putin was a whole lot more sinister than Hillary ever thought about being. He hates her because she had the guts to stand up to him and didn't lick his azz as Trump has. All because she said that the Russian election was unfair. She told the truth. Something that seems to escape Trump. Putin's "yes" man.


The last account I had Trump only got about 30% of the total vote. Whether the far right wishes to, believe it or not, it's still none the less the truth. Trump was beaten badly by Clinton. By something close to 3 million votes. Just going by the vote, Trump was beaten by a landslide. Trump would not be where he is if not for the Electoral College.(And Putin) It was handed to him. And somewhere around 70% or more of America has been putting up with the embarrassment of such a vile person being in high office.



Why Putin hates Hillary

"When mass protests against Russian President Vladimir Putin erupted in Moscow in December 2011, Putin made clear who he thought was really behind them: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153


Vladimir Putin's Bad Blood With Hillary Clinton

"In December 2011, Vladimir Putin came closer than he’s ever been to losing his hold on power. His decision that year to run for a third term as Russia’s President had inspired a massive protest movement against him. Demonstrations calling for him to resign were attracting hundreds of thousands of people across the country. Some of his closest allies had defected to the opposition, causing a split in the Kremlin elites, and Russian state media had begun to warn of a revolution in the making".

“She set the tone for certain actors inside the country; she gave the signal,” Putin said of Clinton at the time, accusing her of ordering the opposition movement into action like some kind of revolutionary sleeper cell. “They heard this signal and, with the support of the U.S. State Department, started actively doing their work.”

Five years later, the U.S. presidential elections may have given Putin his chance for getting even. According to Clinton’s campaign staff and a number of cyber-security experts, Russian hackers in the service of the Kremlin were behind last week’s leak of emails from the Democratic National Committee. The hacked messages appeared to show DNC officials, who are meant to remain neutral during the Democratic Party’s primary race, favoring Clinton over her then-rival, Senator Bernie Sanders.

http://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/





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Sat 04/20/19 12:35 AM
Democrats make a legal bid for all Russia probe evidence, Trump poll numbers drop

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congressional Democrats took legal action on Friday to gain access to all of U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's evidence from his inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, as the probe's findings dented President Donald Trump's poll ratings".

http://japantoday.com/category/world/update-6-democrats-make-legal-bid-for-all-russia-probe-evidence-trump-poll-numbers-drop


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Sat 04/20/19 01:08 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sat 04/20/19 01:09 PM
Former counsel may have saved Trump from himself

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Don McGahn was barely on speaking terms with President Donald Trump by the time he left the White House last fall. But special counsel Robert Mueller's report reveals the president may owe his former top lawyer a debt of gratitude.

McGahn, who sat with Mueller for about 30 hours of interviews, emerged as a central character in Mueller's painstaking investigation into whether Trump obstructed justice and impeded the years-long Russia investigation. In one striking scene , Mueller recounts how Trump called McGahn twice at home and directed him to set Mueller's firing in motion. McGahn recoiled and threatened to resign instead".

"Mueller concluded that McGahn and others effectively halted Trump's efforts to influence the investigation, prompting some White House officials and outside observers to call him an unsung hero in the effort to protect the president. "

http://www.apnews.com/e181c0c2ce434e0ab959b8373a25b6f4


Fake news? Mueller isn't buying it


"NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump and his team love to deride unfavorable stories as "fake news," but it's clear from Robert Mueller's report that the special counsel isn't buying it.

While there are a few exceptions, Mueller's investigation repeatedly supports news reporting that was done on the Russia probe over the last two years and details several instances where the president and his team sought to mislead the public". "But the news stories were, for the great part, accurate. "

http://www.apnews.com/06c88719c3634e66a15adbbc658978b0





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Sat 04/20/19 01:47 PM
Did Trump encourage Michael Cohen to lie? ... And other mysteries the Mueller report didn't resolve

"WASHINGTON — How did WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy group used as a conduit by Russian intelligence to distribute hacked emails, come to release a trove of documents just when Donald Trump’s candidacy seemed to need it most? Why did Trump’s campaign chief share internal polling data with a man tied to Russian intelligence? Did the president encourage his lawyer to lie to Congress?.

"Mueller's office probed deeply into Trump's campaign and the frantic first months of his presidency and produced a final report brimming with inside details. But its work left some of the inquiry’s most perplexing questions frustratingly unanswered".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/20/mueller-report-left-some-perplexing-trump-russia-questions-unanswered/3521806002/


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Sat 04/20/19 02:00 PM
Romney 'sickened' by Trump administration 'dishonesty' exposed by Mueller report

"(WASHINGTON) — Republican Sen. Mitt Romney says he’s “sickened” by the level of dishonesty the special counsel found in President Donald Trump’s administration".

Romney also said Friday he was “appalled” that, according to special counsel Robert Mueller’s findings, Americans working on Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign welcomed election help from Russia.

http://time.com/5574525/mitt-romney-trump-mueller-report/

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Sat 04/20/19 04:38 PM
Poll: Mueller Report Sinks Trump’s Approval Rating To New 2019 Low

"President Donald Trump’s approval rating has taken a hit since the redacted Mueller report was released to the public on Thursday morning. According to a new poll by Reuters/Ipsos, Trump’s approval rating now stands at 37 percent, a 2019 low.

The poll, which saw a three-point drop from a similar poll taken just five days earlier, which showed the president with a 40 percent approval rating, was conducted Thursday afternoon to Friday morning after U.S. Attorney General William Barr went out of his way to put the best face he could on Mueller’s report".

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/poll-mueller-report-sinks-trumps-approval-rating-825079/

Ken Starr Now Thinks Impeachment Is… Bad?

"Like a bad, politically-themed episode of VH1’s Where Are They Now? former special prosecutor Ken Starr is back on Fox News talking about impeachment. But this time, he’s against it?

“For the sake of the country, fulminate, but don’t go forward with impeachment. It’s so bad for the country,” he told host Brett Baier Friday afternoon, adding, “The American people want stability". "Starr went on to say that President Bill Clinton “had committed crimes, he committed the crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice.” But Trump, he said, has not committed crimes. Which, isn’t exactly true. Trump certainly tried to commit crimes, Mueller concluded but was thwarted by

"In another appearance on Fox News earlier the same day, however, Starr conceded that just like Clinton, Trump instructed witnesses to lie. For example, when Trump told now former White House Counsel Don McGahn that he didn’t tell him to fire the special prosecutor even though he had done just that. “The president went to McGahn and said, ‘I never told you to fire Mueller.’ You said there’s no obstruction, but isn’t that a little bit like coaching a witness?” Baier asked Starr".


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ken-starr-impeachment-is-bad-825116/

I think most people want nothing but justice and the truth. For me, the truth is as I've already said. Trump is a crook. His aids have better sense than he does. He owes his aids a debt of gratitude. Really, he owes them more than that. By not following his orders they kept his orange azz out of prison.


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Sat 04/20/19 06:20 PM
Many House Democrats wary of trying to impeach Trump after Mueller report

"Democrats renewed consideration of impeaching President Donald Trump after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report, with leading progressives and some presidential candidates calling for swift action -- as Democratic leaders cautioned restraint".

"This isn't about politics," Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts, the first presidential candidate to voice support for impeachment proceedings, said on MSNBC Friday. "This isn't even specifically about Donald Trump himself. It is about what a president of the United States should be able to do and what the role of Congress is in saying, no, a president does not get to come in and stop an investigation about a foreign power that attacked this country".

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-democrats-wary-impeach-trump-mueller-report/story?id=62508263

Mueller report highlights: Read the top moments from the 448-page report

"Attorney General William Barr on Thursday morning transmitted a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller's highly anticipated report on Russian meddling during the 2016 presidential campaign to members of Congress, making public for the first time substantial portions of the nearly 400-page document".

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justice-department-release-redacted-version-mueller-report/story?id=62201315





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Sat 04/20/19 06:30 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sat 04/20/19 06:33 PM
Quoting Mitt Romney from his twitter page.



http://twitter.com/SenatorRomney/status/1119322471105216512/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1119322471105216512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fyc%2Fhtml%2Fembed-iframe-min.2d7621e2.html


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Sat 04/20/19 07:23 PM
Here is a good example of fake mainstream media misleading news: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-arrests-alleged-member-of-armed-group-stopping-migrants-in-new-mexico/ar-BBW8xz1?li=BBnbfcL

Note that the FBI arrested someone for a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition in an area where supposedly a militia is operating to assist Border Patrol. The headline and first part of the story strongly suggests the arrested party was part of that effort. Toward the end of the story comes the part where that isn't factual information. "It was not clear if Hopkins was a member of the armed group calling themselves the United Constitutional Patriots. The FBI did not mention anything about an armed group, and the state attorney general's office did not specify a group."

Sometimes the media is the bad actor in portraying the news!!!!

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Sat 04/20/19 07:33 PM

The Mueller report describes the effort by Russia to sway the 2016 election and the methods they used with social media. As a country we have become very concerned about this interference and the dishonest methods used. The report gives us an insight into how the Russians attempted to alter or assist the Trump election campaign. IF THAT HAD BEEN A DOMESTIC ORGANIZATION USING THE SAME METHODS IN THE SAME MANNER, WOULD WE STILL HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS?

How do we stop both foreign AND DOMESTIC organizations from affecting our elections by the use of dishonest methods over social media? Sorry to say but I don't see much difference if it is the Russians, the Chinese, or some domestic organization influencing the election by dishonest or misleading methods.

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Sat 04/20/19 08:09 PM


The Mueller report describes the effort by Russia to sway the 2016 election and the methods they used with social media. As a country we have become very concerned about this interference and the dishonest methods used. The report gives us an insight into how the Russians attempted to alter or assist the Trump election campaign. IF THAT HAD BEEN A DOMESTIC ORGANIZATION USING THE SAME METHODS IN THE SAME MANNER, WOULD WE STILL HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS?

How do we stop both foreign AND DOMESTIC organizations from affecting our elections by the use of dishonest methods over social media? Sorry to say but I don't see much difference if it is the Russians, the Chinese, or some domestic organization influencing the election by dishonest or misleading methods.



I don't think influence alone is the issue. It is interference OUTSIDE of the voting public and the home country that begin to pose GLOBAL and international risk, or give foreign governments 'ammunition' against us, so to speak, which is a big problem.




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Sat 04/20/19 08:13 PM

Here is a good example of fake mainstream media misleading news: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-arrests-alleged-member-of-armed-group-stopping-migrants-in-new-mexico/ar-BBW8xz1?li=BBnbfcL

Note that the FBI arrested someone for a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition in an area where supposedly a militia is operating to assist Border Patrol. The headline and first part of the story strongly suggests the arrested party was part of that effort. Toward the end of the story comes the part where that isn't factual information. "It was not clear if Hopkins was a member of the armed group calling themselves the United Constitutional Patriots. The FBI did not mention anything about an armed group, and the state attorney general's office did not specify a group."

Sometimes the media is the bad actor in portraying the news!!!!



At least they used the word 'alleged' and they finish with the disclaimer above. It is a confusing story at best, because they have several different entities involved in the situation, and they are not all just duplicating each other's story. One entity makes the allegation, and another does not. That does not tell us exactly what the proof is or is not. Sometimes people are holding back, not saying something initially out of protocol for their particular department.

First reports are often like this, rushing to get something out there. So, I usually give time after the 'breaking news' to get more details.

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Sat 04/20/19 10:26 PM
I get very disgusted with the on-going news and fake news media , as well as the newspapers writing junk stories about Trump. Right now the stock market is at a wonderful HIGH. Some prices are going up, but other items are much lower in price. I notice many stores are installed "self-checkouts" which means they have to hire less workers to check out at retail stores. 2 friends and myself have made it a point not to use the robot checkouts. Hopefully many people will continue to go through the lines with real people printing up your sales receipt. My grocery store stated that the robot line saves time and one day I told the lone worker in that area, that the lady going out the door shoplifted at least 5 items. He stopped her and searched her with the help of another employee... she had More than 5 things tucked away and the police were called. I am sure that somehow Trump will get blamed for that also.

Another thing that irritates me, is al these stupid articles about Mitt Romney. I didnt want him as president, and now even less as a member of congress. People have a right to like him if they wish to, but I think he's as crooked as many of the long-time senators. We desperately need term limits in the House and Senate.

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Sun 04/21/19 12:25 AM

Trump sought to obstruct Mueller — but White House aides wouldn't do it, report finds

"WASHINGTON — President Trump committed “multiple acts” aimed at obstructing the Russia investigation, but was ultimately saved from being charged with a crime in part because his top aides refused to carry out his orders".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sought-to-obstruct-mueller-but-white-house-aides-wouldnt-do-it-report-finds-190027416.html

This speaks volumes. It shows intent. If his aids had gone along with him he would be in deeper trouble than he already is. This shows just how crooked he is. His aids had better sense than he does. If they had carried out his orders they would be in deep shyt right now right along with him. They were smarter than him. The self-proclaimed genius.


At least they used the word 'alleged' and they finish with the disclaimer above. It is a confusing story at best, because they have several different entities involved in the situation, and they are not all just duplicating each other's story. One entity makes the allegation, and another does not. That does not tell us exactly what the proof is or is not. Sometimes people are holding back, not saying something initially out of protocol for their particular department.

First reports are often like this, rushing to get something out there. So, I usually give time after the 'breaking news' to get more details.


This is the one thing I wonder about. Can a person be prosecuted for "Intent?" Trump tried to obstruct Mueller. It was his "intention" to do so. It shows corruption on Trump's part. Which as far as I know is chargeable by law. But, Here we go again. Is that dirty enough to make a case stick? At the very least this should be enough to turn voters off. Me, I couldn't in good conscience vote for anyone, Democrat, Republican or anything in between, knowing that they turned a blind eye to Russia meddling, or, that they had intent to commit obstruction of any kind.

If they can do something like this once, who's to say they won't try it again? And maybe the next time succeed.

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