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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2. - part 2
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Fri 04/12/19 10:13 AM
"And back on the topic of the thread (TODAY IN TRUMPLAND) laugh
:thumbsup:
Some just dont see that you are but the messenger and not the message !
Appreciate you work and the accuracy of delivery Charles .
waving"

It is a problem with the messenger in that the messenger chooses which messages to deliver. Usually the ones reflective of their personal agenda. A news article, especially a political one, that only has one source is usually not accurate.

The message itself often reflects the opinion of the writer usually through the choice of adjectives or adverbs used to describe some event or piece of "news" as well as the headline associated with the article. Unfortunately, many people only read or hear the headline and a brief summary of the facts; the devil, and truth, is always in the details!

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Fri 04/12/19 10:31 AM
Edited by tombraider on Fri 04/12/19 10:47 AM


HERE"S your great shadow government/leftists/Globalists at work..this is why among other reasons that Trump wants the wall that so many oppose and want Trump out

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/ice-10-000-illegal-immigrants-from-terrorist-nations-free-in-us

https://truthfeednews.com/shock-video-heavily-armed-individuals-caught-on-camera-entering-the-u-s-illegally/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/33-haitians-who-tried-to-illegally-enter-us-via-boat-have-been-deported-coast-guard


And all the loony left can say ..We want to see Trump's taxes..when he and a handful of others are all that stand between us and the destruction of our nation..and these are just the ones we know about....and more are coming..now show me your proof HBH..because I GUARANTEE I can produce more..Let me guess.."where are Trump's taxes"..still don't have a CLUE.do you..noway

So where is your proof..I've even provided video

And if you just search "videos of armed illegals Texas"...there are ALOT more..let me guess..Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels..noway ..SOooo whatcha got ..other than nothing burgers and BS news made to distract and deflect...BRING IT!


HERE COMES THE PAIN
.Q

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Fri 04/12/19 11:01 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 04/12/19 11:05 AM
The noose tightens around Trumps's neck.


How A Spat Between Two Rich People Gave Congress The Power To Get Trump’s Tax Returns

"President Donald Trump doesn’t want to release his tax returns to Congress, but thanks to progressives, two of the biggest scandals in U.S. history and a fight between two millionaires, he doesn’t have a choice.

"Congress has had the power to request individuals’ tax returns since 1924. Now, House Democrats are using that law to request Trump’s returns in order to provide oversight into the alleged audit the president said is keeping him from sharing the info ― which could reveal how much he evades paying his taxes ― with the public".

"In a letter to Congress, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin asked for more time to fulfill the request for Trump’s tax returns as he consults with the Justice Department. Democrats view this maneuver as a stalling tactic. The law is clear that the Treasury Department “shall” provide anyone’s tax returns to the House Ways & Means Committee upon request. "



http://www.yahoo.com/news/spat-between-two-rich-people-152210481.html


Trump Wrong About Tax Law

"Asked whether he believes federal law requires him to give Congress his tax returns, President Donald Trump responded, “There’s no law whatsoever.” He’s wrong about that.

There is, in fact, a federal tax law that specifically states if the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee makes a written request for an individual’s tax returns — as Rep. Richard Neal has done seeking Trump’s — the Treasury secretary “shall furnish” those returns. The law says those returns would be reviewed confidentially in an executive session".

http://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/trump-wrong-about-tax-law/

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Fri 04/12/19 11:02 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 04/12/19 11:06 AM
oops oops Double post.

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Fri 04/12/19 11:57 AM
From the post above:

IRS law generally requires that tax returns be kept confidential. But the section cited by Neal states, “Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.”

Carefully read the last sentence: "except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session". A closed, executive session; not public or released, or leaked to the public!!! I would assume that would be the responsibility of the committee chairman.

From Wikipedia:In the Congress of the United States, a closed session (formally a session with closed doors) is a parliamentary procedure for the Senate or the House of Representatives to discuss matters requiring secrecy.

The discussions which take place in a closed session are subject to confidentiality rules and are similar to an executive session, which itself can be open or closed. An executive session is for business which includes the President of the United States.

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Fri 04/12/19 12:04 PM

From the post above:

IRS law generally requires that tax returns be kept confidential. But the section cited by Neal states, “Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.”

Carefully read the last sentence: "except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session". A closed, executive session; not public or released, or leaked to the public!!! I would assume that would be the responsibility of the committee chairman.

From Wikipedia:In the Congress of the United States, a closed session (formally a session with closed doors) is a parliamentary procedure for the Senate or the House of Representatives to discuss matters requiring secrecy.

The discussions which take place in a closed session are subject to confidentiality rules and are similar to an executive session, which itself can be open or closed. An executive session is for business which includes the President of the United States.

Isnt that what he stated just using different language ?

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Fri 04/12/19 12:17 PM
No on can force returns to be made PUBLIC. No one can stop anyone from allowing their returns to be made PUBLIC. Most Presidents in the past few decades have allowed it.

oldkid46's photo
Fri 04/12/19 12:53 PM


From the post above:

IRS law generally requires that tax returns be kept confidential. But the section cited by Neal states, “Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.”

Carefully read the last sentence: "except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session". A closed, executive session; not public or released, or leaked to the public!!! I would assume that would be the responsibility of the committee chairman.

From Wikipedia:In the Congress of the United States, a closed session (formally a session with closed doors) is a parliamentary procedure for the Senate or the House of Representatives to discuss matters requiring secrecy.

The discussions which take place in a closed session are subject to confidentiality rules and are similar to an executive session, which itself can be open or closed. An executive session is for business which includes the President of the United States.

Isnt that what he stated just using different language ?
Absolutely not!!! The statute defines when and under what circumstances an individual's tax returns can be reviewed by members of Congress. The original post did not identify that there were any restrictions, as in give me that tax return and I will do what I want with it.

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Fri 04/12/19 12:59 PM

No on can force returns to be made PUBLIC. No one can stop anyone from allowing their returns to be made PUBLIC. Most Presidents in the past few decades have allowed it.
Exactly, only the individual tax payer can make a return public! Some Congressional committee chairman can not despite what he may think!

I believe this will be the concern when this controversy reaches the court system.

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Fri 04/12/19 01:08 PM

They all know this..they are just trying to create controversy,simply because their other false narrative have failed. and a continued means to attack Trump .and rather than addressing the issue at the border..just another means of distraction and deflecting..they have run out of ammo and low I.Q false flag ideas..they know the people are on to them,so now they lay low and regurgitate..useless garbage

ROBERT MUELLER LIKELY HAS DONALD TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-09-18/robert-mueller-likely-has-donald-trumps-tax-returns

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Fri 04/12/19 01:27 PM
Somemore of that Trump bassaassard thinking.

Trump confirms a possible plan to send immigrants to sanctuary cities, contradicting White House denials

"President Trump confirmed Friday that the White House is considering a plan to transport detained immigrants to “sanctuary cities” and releasing them there as a way to punish his political enemies.

Late Thursday night, the Washington Post published a report about the proposal. A White House official downplayed the story, telling the Post in a statement, “This was just a suggestion that was floated and rejected, which ended any further discussion".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-confirms-white-house-sanctuary-cities-plan-174806223.html

[Sanctuary Cities List

States. California. Colorado. Illinois. ...
Cities and Counties.
California. Alameda County. Berkley. Contra Costa County. ...
Colorado. Arapahoe County. Aurora. Boulder County. ...
Connecticut. East Haven. Hartford.
Florida. Alachua County. Clay County.
Georgia. Clayton County. DeKalb County.
Iowa. Benton County. Cass County.

This shows what kind of real idiot Trump is for even contemplating this idea as a way of "Getting Back" at his enemies. What's stupid about it, Let's say for the sake of argument he managed to pull this off and dropped 100 thousand migrants in each of those states. That's a whole lot of migrants that will be voting Democrat. Which is what they commonly do. This is what fuels the war between Republicans and the migrants. This is the real reason, one of the reasons that Trump keeps spewing about his wall. It has nothing to do with jobs or anything like that. It's about the money and the power that goes with it. More migrants = more votes for Democrats= more money paid in for the Democrats to spread amongst the masses and themselves. The Republicans, they want it all. And since they are like that, they want it all, this was a dumb "Trump" idea.


Are unauthorized immigrants overwhelmingly Democrats?


"While there’s no way of knowing if these predictions are accurate, the data provide some insights. In 2012, the Pew Research Center’s National Survey of Latinos found that among Latino immigrants who are not U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents (and therefore likely unauthorized immigrants), some 31% identify as Democrats and just 4% as Republicans. An additional 33% say they are political independents, 16% mention some other political party and 15% say they “don’t know” or refuse to answer the question".

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/22/are-unauthorized-immigrants-overwhelmingly-democrats/

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Fri 04/12/19 01:34 PM
Edited by hardBNhard on Fri 04/12/19 01:45 PM

Somemore of that Trump bassaassard thinking.

Trump confirms a possible plan to send immigrants to sanctuary cities, contradicting White House denials

"President Trump confirmed Friday that the White House is considering a plan to transport detained immigrants to “sanctuary cities” and releasing them there as a way to punish his political enemies.

Late Thursday night, the Washington Post published a report about the proposal. A White House official downplayed the story, telling the Post in a statement, “This was just a suggestion that was floated and rejected, which ended any further discussion".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-confirms-white-house-sanctuary-cities-plan-174806223.html

[Sanctuary Cities List

States. California. Colorado. Illinois. ...
Cities and Counties.
California. Alameda County. Berkley. Contra Costa County. ...
Colorado. Arapahoe County. Aurora. Boulder County. ...
Connecticut. East Haven. Hartford.
Florida. Alachua County. Clay County.
Georgia. Clayton County. DeKalb County.
Iowa. Benton County. Cass County.

This shows what kind of real idiot Trump is for even contemplating this idea as a way of "Getting Back" at his enemies. What's stupid about it, Let's say for the sake of argument he managed to pull this off and dropped 100 thousand migrants in each of those states. That's a whole lot of migrants that will be voting Democrat. Which is what they commonly do. This is what fuels the war between Republicans and the migrants. This is the real reason, one of the reasons that Trump keeps spewing about his wall. It has nothing to do with jobs or anything like that. It's about the money and the power that goes with it. More migrants = more votes for Democrats= more money paid in for the Democrats to spread amongst the masses and themselves. The Republicans, they want it all. And since they are like that, they want it all, this was a dumb "Trump" idea.


Are unauthorized immigrants overwhelmingly Democrats?


"While there’s no way of knowing if these predictions are accurate, the data provide some insights. In 2012, the Pew Research Center’s National Survey of Latinos found that among Latino immigrants who are not U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents (and therefore likely unauthorized immigrants), some 31% identify as Democrats and just 4% as Republicans. An additional 33% say they are political independents, 16% mention some other political party and 15% say they “don’t know” or refuse to answer the question".

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/22/are-unauthorized-immigrants-overwhelmingly-democrats/

What none in Tennessee ? They should send them folks all there to give the rabbit hole reject really something to worry about laugh

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Fri 04/12/19 02:22 PM
April's figures indicate that although there was a sharp spike in March, border crossings remain in line with historic seasonal trends. Numbers are still consistent with Obama administration years -- slightly below fiscal years 2013 and 2014 but slightly above 2015 and 2016.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/05/03/politics/immigration-border-crossings-stabilize/index.html


temporary spike in March, or dangerous NEW trend from the decades long decline?

I am still predicting the former.



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Fri 04/12/19 05:57 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 04/12/19 05:59 PM
Not just Amazon: 60 big companies paid $0 in taxes under Trump law

"Big businesses are faring better than ever under the Trump era tax law, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

According to analysis from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), 60 Fortune 500 companies avoided paying all federal income tax in 2018 (with their total average effective tax rate being roughly -5%).

That’s more than three times the number of companies that avoided paying corporate taxes on average from 2008 to 2015. During that period, 18 companies managed to pay 0% or less (with their total average effective tax rate over 8 years being roughly -4%).

“There are a lot of breaks and loopholes that allow a company not to pay,” Steve Wamhoff, ITEP’s Director of Federal Tax Policy, told Yahoo Finance. “People, when they think of tax reform, think the government is going to fix the tax code and get rid of breaks and loopholes and get rid tax dodging. What we got at the end of 2017 was not that. It was the opposite of that. The Tax Cuts and jobs act left a lot of special breaks and loopholes in place and created some new ones".


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/companies-paying-zero-taxes-trump-law-155944124.html


How the American economy conspires to keep wages down

"The economy is growing but our paychecks are not. That’s because employers have, over decades, built a political apparatus to hold down pay".


"When unemployment goes down, wages are supposed to go up. That’s just supply and demand. Quite puzzlingly, though, this mechanism seems not to be working today. Unemployment stands at a modest 4%, but paychecks aren’t growing. Although today’s is the best-educated workforce in history, employers just insist that workers need more training.

In other words, they’re gaslighting us. Meanwhile, over decades, employers have built and maintained a massive collective political apparatus to hold down wages. To call it a conspiracy would be only slight embellishment".


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/13/american-economy-wage-suppression-how-it-works


Why Aren't Wages Keeping Up? It's Not The Economy, It's Management


"In the decade since the 2008 recession we’ve had an enormous runup in the stock market, accelerating growth in GDP, and a steady increase in job growth. Yet despite these positive economic trends, wages are not keeping up".


http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbersin/2018/10/31/why-arent-wages-keeping-up-its-not-the-economy-its-management/#64d396b1397e


Paychecks Lag as Profits Soar, and Prices Erode Wage Gains

"Corporate profits have rarely swept up a bigger share of the nation’s wealth, and workers have rarely shared a smaller one.

The lopsided split is especially pronounced given how low the official unemployment rate has sunk. Throughout the recession and much of its aftermath, when many Americans were grateful to receive a paycheck instead of a pink slip, jobs and raises were in short supply. Now, complaints of labor shortages are as common as tweets. For the first time in a long while, workers have some leverage to push for more".

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/business/economy/wages-workers-profits.html

The Share of Economic Output that Workers Receive has Fallen

http://www.hamiltonproject.org/charts/the_share_of_economic_output_that_workers_receive_has_fallen

"rabbit hole reject".








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Fri 04/12/19 06:06 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 04/12/19 06:06 PM
Don't trust government or news, except the people in government or media who say what I want you to believe, which is basically that I am always right and superior and anyone believing otherwise is conspiring against me and wrong.


.... Trump


( sarcasm, not a real quote)

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Fri 04/12/19 06:43 PM
Edited by tombraider on Fri 04/12/19 07:14 PM

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/william-barr-testimony-today-spying-did-occur-trump-campaign-2019-04-10/


Now we have spying too..noway
It's all just a matter of time now..We've got the source..and now after a year of saying no crisis at the border ..now even some Dems are saying there is..so much for those who were saying there wasn't..or for some who claimed there was a decrease of illegals..a rise was shown ....eagerly awaiting for Barr's summary and showing no collusion and no obstruction to completely shut down the haters..tic toc..

And what was the media saying about the crisis at the border..there wasn't any..Trump was right..this is far worse then the media will reveal..they've been lying to all of us for years..and now they are going down as well..as they should..but I want to see the traitors go down ..especially Hillary..

HERE COMES THE PAIN



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Fri 04/12/19 07:11 PM
Edited by oldkid46 on Fri 04/12/19 07:14 PM

Not just Amazon: 60 big companies paid $0 in taxes under Trump law

"Big businesses are faring better than ever under the Trump era tax law, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

According to analysis from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), 60 Fortune 500 companies avoided paying all federal income tax in 2018 (with their total average effective tax rate being roughly -5%).

That’s more than three times the number of companies that avoided paying corporate taxes on average from 2008 to 2015. During that period, 18 companies managed to pay 0% or less (with their total average effective tax rate over 8 years being roughly -4%).

“There are a lot of breaks and loopholes that allow a company not to pay,” Steve Wamhoff, ITEP’s Director of Federal Tax Policy, told Yahoo Finance. “People, when they think of tax reform, think the government is going to fix the tax code and get rid of breaks and loopholes and get rid tax dodging. What we got at the end of 2017 was not that. It was the opposite of that. The Tax Cuts and jobs act left a lot of special breaks and loopholes in place and created some new ones".


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/companies-paying-zero-taxes-trump-law-155944124.html


How the American economy conspires to keep wages down

"The economy is growing but our paychecks are not. That’s because employers have, over decades, built a political apparatus to hold down pay".


"When unemployment goes down, wages are supposed to go up. That’s just supply and demand. Quite puzzlingly, though, this mechanism seems not to be working today. Unemployment stands at a modest 4%, but paychecks aren’t growing. Although today’s is the best-educated workforce in history, employers just insist that workers need more training.

In other words, they’re gaslighting us. Meanwhile, over decades, employers have built and maintained a massive collective political apparatus to hold down wages. To call it a conspiracy would be only slight embellishment".


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/13/american-economy-wage-suppression-how-it-works


Why Aren't Wages Keeping Up? It's Not The Economy, It's Management


"In the decade since the 2008 recession we’ve had an enormous runup in the stock market, accelerating growth in GDP, and a steady increase in job growth. Yet despite these positive economic trends, wages are not keeping up".


http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbersin/2018/10/31/why-arent-wages-keeping-up-its-not-the-economy-its-management/#64d396b1397e


Paychecks Lag as Profits Soar, and Prices Erode Wage Gains

"Corporate profits have rarely swept up a bigger share of the nation’s wealth, and workers have rarely shared a smaller one.

The lopsided split is especially pronounced given how low the official unemployment rate has sunk. Throughout the recession and much of its aftermath, when many Americans were grateful to receive a paycheck instead of a pink slip, jobs and raises were in short supply. Now, complaints of labor shortages are as common as tweets. For the first time in a long while, workers have some leverage to push for more".

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/business/economy/wages-workers-profits.html

The Share of Economic Output that Workers Receive has Fallen

http://www.hamiltonproject.org/charts/the_share_of_economic_output_that_workers_receive_has_fallen

"rabbit hole reject".








wage growth = 0, a questionable fact! Wage growth information from a reputable source:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/13/worker-wage-gains-are-keeping-up-with-inflation-and-then-some.html



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Fri 04/12/19 07:19 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 04/12/19 07:21 PM
Trump must release his tax returns or be barred from state’s 2020 election ballot, Illinois senate votes

"Donald Trump will have to release five years of tax returns if he wants appear on the Illinois 2020 presidential ballot, the state's senate has ruled".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tax-returns-illinois-senate-vote-2020-us-election-president-a8866696.html


At least give the reader enough to make it clear. So it doesn't sound like something it isn't.

William Barr believes spying "did occur" on Trump campaign

"Attorney General William Barr left senators confused about whether he believed that unauthorized spying on President Trump's campaign had occurred, as he was pressed on the impending release of special counsel Robert Mueller's final report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Barr, in his second day of congressional testimony, said Wednesday, "I think spying did occur, yes," on the Trump campaign, an opinion shared by the president. Sen. Brian Schatz, Democrat of Hawaii, noted that the use of a loaded term like "spying" would "cause everyone in the cable news ecosystem to freak out."

Under questioning from Democrats and Republicans, however, Barr seemed to back off that assertion". "I'm not suggesting that those rules were violated, but I think it's important to look at that. And I'm not just talking about the FBI necessarily, but intelligence agencies more broadly," Barr said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/william-barr-testimony-today-spying-did-occur-trump-campaign-2019-04-10/

In other words, He doesn't know if there was or wasn't spying. No real proof. In his opinion, it should be looked at. That's it. No more, no less.

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Fri 04/12/19 07:20 PM
Edited by tombraider on Fri 04/12/19 07:36 PM


They are not just bringing in the illegals for votes..but to keep wages down as well..so guess who may be taking our jobs..how can that be ..they only take the jobs we don't want..really..spock

here's a thought..if the FISA was obtained legally it would then be considered surveillance..but since they weren't obtained legally and we know they weren't then it's spying.But Barr didn't specify who he thoyght was spying whether it was the DOJ or the FBI..there are other entities as well..ie..Russia China UK..he just said he thought there was spying


China denies spying on Trump

https://apnews.com/6738267e5dd64063b1a1495d0a817ef6




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Fri 04/12/19 07:34 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Fri 04/12/19 07:35 PM


Not just Amazon: 60 big companies paid $0 in taxes under Trump law

"Big businesses are faring better than ever under the Trump era tax law, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

According to analysis from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), 60 Fortune 500 companies avoided paying all federal income tax in 2018 (with their total average effective tax rate being roughly -5%).

That’s more than three times the number of companies that avoided paying corporate taxes on average from 2008 to 2015. During that period, 18 companies managed to pay 0% or less (with their total average effective tax rate over 8 years being roughly -4%).

“There are a lot of breaks and loopholes that allow a company not to pay,” Steve Wamhoff, ITEP’s Director of Federal Tax Policy, told Yahoo Finance. “People, when they think of tax reform, think the government is going to fix the tax code and get rid of breaks and loopholes and get rid tax dodging. What we got at the end of 2017 was not that. It was the opposite of that. The Tax Cuts and jobs act left a lot of special breaks and loopholes in place and created some new ones".


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/companies-paying-zero-taxes-trump-law-155944124.html


How the American economy conspires to keep wages down

"The economy is growing but our paychecks are not. That’s because employers have, over decades, built a political apparatus to hold down pay".


"When unemployment goes down, wages are supposed to go up. That’s just supply and demand. Quite puzzlingly, though, this mechanism seems not to be working today. Unemployment stands at a modest 4%, but paychecks aren’t growing. Although today’s is the best-educated workforce in history, employers just insist that workers need more training.

In other words, they’re gaslighting us. Meanwhile, over decades, employers have built and maintained a massive collective political apparatus to hold down wages. To call it a conspiracy would be only slight embellishment".


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/13/american-economy-wage-suppression-how-it-works


Why Aren't Wages Keeping Up? It's Not The Economy, It's Management


"In the decade since the 2008 recession we’ve had an enormous runup in the stock market, accelerating growth in GDP, and a steady increase in job growth. Yet despite these positive economic trends, wages are not keeping up".


http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbersin/2018/10/31/why-arent-wages-keeping-up-its-not-the-economy-its-management/#64d396b1397e


Paychecks Lag as Profits Soar, and Prices Erode Wage Gains

"Corporate profits have rarely swept up a bigger share of the nation’s wealth, and workers have rarely shared a smaller one.

The lopsided split is especially pronounced given how low the official unemployment rate has sunk. Throughout the recession and much of its aftermath, when many Americans were grateful to receive a paycheck instead of a pink slip, jobs and raises were in short supply. Now, complaints of labor shortages are as common as tweets. For the first time in a long while, workers have some leverage to push for more".

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/business/economy/wages-workers-profits.html

The Share of Economic Output that Workers Receive has Fallen

http://www.hamiltonproject.org/charts/the_share_of_economic_output_that_workers_receive_has_fallen

"rabbit hole reject".








wage growth = 0, a questionable fact! Wage growth information from a reputable source:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/13/worker-wage-gains-are-keeping-up-with-inflation-and-then-some.html






Why it feels like wages aren't outpacing inflation, even though they are


"Democrats like to talk about struggling families who find wages aren’t keeping up with the cost of living. But our fact-checking has found that the economic data clashes with their argument.

Readers who are pinching pennies have told us they don’t agree with our findings".


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/feb/07/why-it-feels-wages-arent-outpacing-inflation-even-/


If you talk sense, I won't laugh at you. I'll back you up.

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