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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2. - part 2
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Mon 04/08/19 02:21 PM
Edited by tombraider on Mon 04/08/19 02:33 PM

..And More ..Here comes the FORCED UN Migration Pact that we opted out of..smokin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RMKvQWgXSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmnXuOwcbc


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Mon 04/08/19 02:37 PM
oh dear frustrated

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Mon 04/08/19 02:40 PM




The sky is falling , THE SKY IS FALLING !scared
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Wake Up ..This is just the beginning..this is what I have been warning about..It would be far worse if it wasn't for TRUMP..Like I said ..JUST THE BEGINNING..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8qt51BORk



They are going to do anything to start a racial war ..Jussie Smollett was just a small attempt this is the next plan..The news is hiding it YOUR SOURCES..and you're worried about Trump's taxes .. it's another attempt to get Trump out of the way..YOU best start worrying about this..If it wasn't for TRUMP it would be ALOT worse..This is why they want Trump out this is why they want open borders ..to DESTROY our sovereignty and our nation..LIKE I SAID ..IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE..ALOT WORSE.. I have been trying to warn you about this...

Don't let ANYONE distract you from this..this is IMPORTANT..



I wish fear mongering crap like this wasn't allowed on a thread. This serves no purpose but to try to inflame others with false information. It serves no purpose but to try to scare people into believing this far fetched crap. With absolutely ZERO to back it up. On top of that Jussy Smollett has nothing to do with any of this. It's just another fear mongering tactic to try to take peoples eyes off of the real problem. Trump and his craziness, and crookedness. And how he is running our government.



BOOM BOOM BOOM explode explode explode
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Will he ever be right about ANYTHING Charles ? laugh



It's possible. Even a blind hog finds an acre every now and then. But here is what's really pitiful. This little girl wants to do a school project, "Trump the hero". Her hero. The problem is, this little girl has been fed lots of lies and bullshyt. Most likely by her parents. How anyone can make Trump the draft dodger/ woman groper a hero, you know she has been fed full of bullshyt.

Girl claims her teacher wouldn't let her pick Trump for a class project about heroes

"A 6th-grader in Long Island, New York, chose to highlight President Trump for a class project about students’ heroes — but claims her teacher tried to talk her out of it".

“She said that I wasn’t allowed to do Donald Trump because he spreads negativity and says bad stuff about women,” the 11-year-old told News 12".

http://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/girl-claims-teacher-wouldnt-let-pick-trump-class-project-heroes-141114480.html

'We don’t really have a president': Kellyanne Conway's husband, George is at it again

"WASHINGTON – George Conway, the husband to White House adviser Kellyanne Conway, once again took to Twitter to tear into his wife's boss for what he called President Donald Trump's "botched" handling of his Homeland Security secretary's resignation".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/08/george-conway-slams-trump-handling-kirstjen-nielsen-resignation/3400543002/











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Mon 04/08/19 02:41 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 04/08/19 02:42 PM


This isn't about Trump this is about the border crossing and the danger it poses to FAMILIES..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9-cbEe6vo



where's that Russian Collusion.. where's that obstruction? BOOOM!!

More Of Repeated Obfuscating News continued by the dems..capital letters are key here..rofl







where is the proof? I notice a continued theme that there is no 'proof' of collusion. Where is the proof of this danger? What were the differences in crime and danger when the crossing rates were more than twice as high? Where is the proof of danger as it correlates with border crossing numbers one way or the other?




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Mon 04/08/19 02:45 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 04/08/19 02:46 PM
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This isn't about Trump this is about the border crossing and the danger it poses to FAMILIES..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9-cbEe6vo



where's that Russian Collusion.. where's that obstruction? BOOOM!!

More Of Repeated Obfuscating News continued by the dems..capital letters are key here..rofl







where is the proof? I notice a continued theme that there is no 'proof' of collusion. Where is the proof of this danger? What were the differences in crime and danger when the crossing rates were more than twice as high? Where is the proof of danger as it correlates with border crossing numbers one way or the other?






More fear mongering with nothing to back it up.

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Mon 04/08/19 02:55 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 04/08/19 02:57 PM
The Stats on Border Apprehensions

"Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said monthly border apprehensions have returned to “previous levels” since dropping significantly after President Donald Trump took office. That’s true: There was a sharp rise in those apprehended at the Southwest border in March from a year ago, putting the figure back in line with 2016.

But what about the long-term view? Apprehensions have been on a general downward trend since the mid-2000s".

http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/the-stats-on-border-apprehensions/

Trump Claims There Is a Crisis at the Border. What’s the Reality?

"President Trump has frequently called the situation at the southern border with Mexico a crisis and insists that building his long-promised border wall will fix it. Here are some of Mr. Trump’s most common assertions of a crisis, and the reality of what we know about immigrants and the border".

"THE REALITY Illegal border crossings have been declining for nearly two decades. In 2017, border-crossing apprehensions were at their lowest point since 1971.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/11/us/politics/trump-border-crisis-reality.html [/url

3 Charts That Show What's Actually Happening Along The Southern Border


"The total number of people apprehended for illegally crossing the southern U.S. border has been steadily falling for almost two decades. It's a long-term trend that sociologists, economists, and federal officials have been tracking for years".

According to the Department of Homeland Security, there is a long-term trend of fewer people being arrested or apprehended for allegedly crossing the border illegally. Most apprehensions happen along the southern border. (Years shown are fiscal years.)

http://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622246815/unauthorized-immigration-in-three-graphs


Illegal Immigration Statistics

"There were 12 million immigrants living in the country illegally as of January 2015, according to the most recent estimate from the Department of Homeland Security. The estimates from two independent groups are similar: The Pew Research Center estimates the number at 10.7 million in 2016, and the Center for Migration Studies says there were 10.8 million people in 2016 living in the U.S. illegally.

That would be about 3.3 percent to 3.7 percent of the total U.S. population in 2016 or 2015.

http://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/








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Mon 04/08/19 03:05 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 04/08/19 03:08 PM
Trump news - live: President's alleged business ties to IRGC stir controversy after he brands group a terrorist organization

"Donald Trump has accepted the resignation of Homeland Security secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, with whom he has repeatedly clashed over his administration’s more hardline immigration policies, as he seeks more drastic action to address the “crisis” at the US southern border.

A senior administration official told CNN Ms Nielsen “believed the situation was becoming untenable with the president becoming increasingly unhinged about the border crisis and making unreasonable and even impossible requests".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-live-updates-irgc-iran-baku-tower-tweets-today-kirstjen-nielsen-latest-a8860571.html


Donald Trump’s Worst Deal

"The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard".

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal


Donald Trump should be fired and replaced by someone with a brain. He has not diverted his business and now he is TIED DIRECTLY TO THIS GROUP BY GIVING THEM AID. FIRE TRUMP, FIRE HIS KIDS, GET A REAL MAN IN THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

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Mon 04/08/19 03:07 PM
Edited by hardBNhard on Mon 04/08/19 03:11 PM
And of all these murderers , rapist , drug dealers , terrorist ! How much of those numbers would reflect children under the age of 18 ????
I got a figure of 60% but that could be of the recent migration numbers !
Minors and children ! Thats what we have to be scared of . Phhht
Im more scare of the radical white supremacist fear mongerers that lurk in the shadows and spread fear and hate whoa

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Mon 04/08/19 04:15 PM
Edited by tombraider on Mon 04/08/19 04:48 PM


Those coming through the border and let loose in our country are not being vetted ..so that means if they are murderers rapist or what have you oh well..If I were in a foreign country I would simply empty my jails and send them your way..China is buying up the west coast..Now we have problems with China and Russia in Venezuela..I would send them into your country as illegals with fake documents and attack from within . former.UN Secretary calls for One World Cash.. NWO stuff there..Six corporations own 90% of the media..So what's coming over the border..I know good people looking for jobs..And you know this how..WE DON'T..and WE SHOULD..

Just remember what was said here..because if ONE just ONE little girl is raped by an illegal or ONE just ONE person is murdered by an illegal..that we should have known about and we should have turned back..just remember how you called me a white supremacist fear monger..because I sure am going to call you and people who have the same mentality to just let them in..COMPLICIT

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Mon 04/08/19 05:24 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 04/08/19 05:26 PM
U.S. judge halts Trump policy of returning asylum seekers to Mexico

"A U.S. judge on Monday halted the Trump administration’s policy of sending some asylum seekers back across the southern border to wait out their cases in Mexico, stopping a program the government planned to use to stem a recent flood of migrants.

The ruling is slated to take effect on Friday, according to the order by U.S. District Judge Richard Seeborg in San Francisco. The preliminary injunction will apply nationwide".


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-asylum/us-judge-halts-trump-policy-of-returning-asylum-seekers-to-mexico-idUSKCN1RK2E6


A judges job is to apply the law not make it up as they go along based on feelings.

They Say It’s Bad Now But Republicans Disclosed Private Tax Returns In 2014


"WASHINGTON ― The Trump administration and its defenders in Congress argue that Democrats are breaking the rules in seeking the president’s private tax information.

“We should not be in a situation where individual private tax returns are used for political purposes,” Jay Sekulow, one of President Donald Trump’s private attorneys, said Sunday on ABC News’ “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”

“When you have people in the Congress who, for political reasons, are trying to get access to someone’s tax returns, that’s as wrong as it gets,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said Friday on C-SPAN.

Accusing Democrats of having “political” ― as opposed to legitimate oversight ― reasons for wanting to see Trump’s tax returns is the GOP’s main talking point these days.

And as talking points go, it’s an awkward one. Republicans themselves used private tax returns for political purposes just a few years ago, and they used the very same law that Democrats are now relying on to request the last six years of Trump’s tax returns".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/bad-now-republicans-disclosed-private-221215402.html

Congress has the power to ask for copies of anyone’s tax return thanks to a 1924 law enacted as a check on corruption in the executive branch. What comes around goes around.


http://www.archives.gov/files/legislative/resources/education/congress-represented/ebook.pdf

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Mon 04/08/19 05:51 PM
Talk all the time about our southern border. But no one ever pays attention to what is happening at our Northern Border.

August 6, 2018

Illegal U.S. northern border crossings up 142 percent from last year

"CBS News has learned the number of people caught illegally crossing the United States' northern border is up 142 percent. Border Patrol agents apprehended 445 people entering the U.S. from Canada during the first six months of 2018; that compares with 184 during the same period last year.

The northern border is very easy to cross, which was actually the original intention. But it also makes it very difficult to secure".

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-northern-border-crossings-on-the-rise/


Now what do we do? Build a Great Northern wall?

Amid the focus on immigration from the south, illegal crossings from Canada surge

"While the Trump administration fortifies the southern border, concern is growing over the number of foreigners entering the US illegally across the porous northern border with Canada.

People crossing the border between Vermont and Quebec have paid smugglers up to $4,000, usually payable when the immigrants reach their US destination, according to officials and court documents".

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/24/canada-vermont-illegal-border-crossings-immigration



And all you can hear out of Trump and his supporters, "Build that wall". But let's build it in the wrong place. Let's build it where it's least effective. More of that backward Trump thinking.



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Mon 04/08/19 06:26 PM
Edited by tombraider on Mon 04/08/19 07:24 PM

I've given PROOF to everything I've said..many sites..you have proven nothing..there was no Russian Collusion like you said You gave no PROOF to the obstruction of justice..months of threads and post and still no PROOF

How many of those so called children are gang members..Like what? all gang members are over the age of 18..and with a lot of those children coming in unaccompqanied ..that makes them pretty prime targets for gangs..The average age of an MS 13 gang member is 16..what's that a child ..not to worry right pffft..noway


PROOF AGAIN:
https://immigrationreform.com/2018/04/04/alien-crimes-mount-texas-whos-counting/

The aliens, two-thirds of whom were in the country illegally, were charged with more than 650,000 criminal offenses. They have been convicted of almost 600 murders, 30,000 assaults, 3,300 sexual assaults, 9,000 burglaries, 20,000 thefts, 38,000 drug crimes and 274 kidnapings.


fear mongering..laugh // what's this PROOF again..smile2


Still waiting on your PROOF of Russian Collusion and Obstruction of Justice after almost 2 years..spock where is it? NO PROOF..laugh


.BOOOM!!

And if you think any of what's going on to destroy your nation and sovereignty isn't bad enough..wait until they unleash the "nano bot mosquitos" that can kill us..but hey that's just fear mongering as well because we all know mosquitos are a good thing..although one person has already been killed by one and they covered it up..DO THE RESEARCH

smokin ..smoked

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Mon 04/08/19 07:52 PM
So IF I accept your "facts" that there are less people crossing the southern border and the trend is expected to continue to decrease, THEN:

we need less humanitarian aid for these people
we need less health care facilities for these people
we need less immigration judges to hear asylum claims
we need less deportation judges
we need less temporary housing facilities


We can significantly reduce the costs for border detention and put that money elsewhere! Our biggest goal at the border should be to increase the efficiency of commercial border transit.

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Mon 04/08/19 08:00 PM
I guess this thread should be divided into 3 new threads:

1. Trump bashing
2. Conspiracy theories
3. Societal problem identification and possible solutions.

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Mon 04/08/19 08:03 PM

U.S. judge halts Trump policy of returning asylum seekers to Mexico

"A U.S. judge on Monday halted the Trump administration’s policy of sending some asylum seekers back across the southern border to wait out their cases in Mexico, stopping a program the government planned to use to stem a recent flood of migrants.

The ruling is slated to take effect on Friday, according to the order by U.S. District Judge Richard Seeborg in San Francisco. The preliminary injunction will apply nationwide".


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-asylum/us-judge-halts-trump-policy-of-returning-asylum-seekers-to-mexico-idUSKCN1RK2E6


A judges job is to apply the law not make it up as they go along based on feelings.

They Say It’s Bad Now But Republicans Disclosed Private Tax Returns In 2014


"WASHINGTON ― The Trump administration and its defenders in Congress argue that Democrats are breaking the rules in seeking the president’s private tax information.

“We should not be in a situation where individual private tax returns are used for political purposes,” Jay Sekulow, one of President Donald Trump’s private attorneys, said Sunday on ABC News’ “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”

“When you have people in the Congress who, for political reasons, are trying to get access to someone’s tax returns, that’s as wrong as it gets,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said Friday on C-SPAN.

Accusing Democrats of having “political” ― as opposed to legitimate oversight ― reasons for wanting to see Trump’s tax returns is the GOP’s main talking point these days.

And as talking points go, it’s an awkward one. Republicans themselves used private tax returns for political purposes just a few years ago, and they used the very same law that Democrats are now relying on to request the last six years of Trump’s tax returns".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/bad-now-republicans-disclosed-private-221215402.html

Congress has the power to ask for copies of anyone’s tax return thanks to a 1924 law enacted as a check on corruption in the executive branch. What comes around goes around.


http://www.archives.gov/files/legislative/resources/education/congress-represented/ebook.pdf

Careful now ! The bot mosquito's will get ya rofl

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Mon 04/08/19 08:13 PM


I've given PROOF to everything I've said..many sites..you have proven nothing..there was no Russian Collusion like you said You gave no PROOF to the obstruction of justice..months of threads and post and still no PROOF

How many of those so called children are gang members..Like what? all gang members are over the age of 18..and with a lot of those children coming in unaccompqanied ..that makes them pretty prime targets for gangs..The average age of an MS 13 gang member is 16..what's that a child ..not to worry right pffft..noway


PROOF AGAIN:
https://immigrationreform.com/2018/04/04/alien-crimes-mount-texas-whos-counting/

The aliens, two-thirds of whom were in the country illegally, were charged with more than 650,000 criminal offenses. They have been convicted of almost 600 murders, 30,000 assaults, 3,300 sexual assaults, 9,000 burglaries, 20,000 thefts, 38,000 drug crimes and 274 kidnapings.


fear mongering..laugh // what's this PROOF again..smile2


Still waiting on your PROOF of Russian Collusion and Obstruction of Justice after almost 2 years..spock where is it? NO PROOF..laugh


.BOOOM!!

And if you think any of what's going on to destroy your nation and sovereignty isn't bad enough..wait until they unleash the "nano bot mosquitos" that can kill us..but hey that's just fear mongering as well because we all know mosquitos are a good thing..although one person has already been killed by one and they covered it up..DO THE RESEARCH

smokin ..smoked


You expect anybody to believe anything that comes from a racist white nationalist conspiracy source ?laugh
Hey wont your "chemtrails" kill all those bot mosquito's rofl
Try a reliable source of you want to share statistics ! whoa
Fact is the majority of immigrants coming in are families ! But you keep fear mongering idiot trumps lies . Only fools buy that crap slaphead
Women and children dude ! Thats what you're wetting your panties about .
And immigrants are more likely to be the victim of a crime rather then the perpetrator of one spock
Think your rabbit holes are broken rofl

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Mon 04/08/19 11:53 PM

So IF I accept your "facts" that there are less people crossing the southern border and the trend is expected to continue to decrease, THEN:

we need less humanitarian aid for these people
we need less health care facilities for these people
we need less immigration judges to hear asylum claims
we need less deportation judges
we need less temporary housing facilities


We can significantly reduce the costs for border detention and put that money elsewhere! Our biggest goal at the border should be to increase the efficiency of commercial border transit.


that is fallacious logic.

First, because the numbers had been decreasing without any of those actions taking place, so why would one assume they are needed to continue the decrease?

and Second, because our facilities and aid and judges and housing facilities are not explicitly to address immigrants but the population of natives who need such services. and as our population of natives grows, there is no reason to believe we need less of any of those positions or services.




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Tue 04/09/19 12:22 AM


I've given PROOF to everything I've said..many sites..you have proven nothing..there was no Russian Collusion like you said You gave no PROOF to the obstruction of justice..months of threads and post and still no PROOF

How many of those so called children are gang members..Like what? all gang members are over the age of 18..and with a lot of those children coming in unaccompqanied ..that makes them pretty prime targets for gangs..The average age of an MS 13 gang member is 16..what's that a child ..not to worry right pffft..noway


PROOF AGAIN:
https://immigrationreform.com/2018/04/04/alien-crimes-mount-texas-whos-counting/

The aliens, two-thirds of whom were in the country illegally, were charged with more than 650,000 criminal offenses. They have been convicted of almost 600 murders, 30,000 assaults, 3,300 sexual assaults, 9,000 burglaries, 20,000 thefts, 38,000 drug crimes and 274 kidnapings.


fear mongering..laugh // what's this PROOF again..smile2


Still waiting on your PROOF of Russian Collusion and Obstruction of Justice after almost 2 years..spock where is it? NO PROOF..laugh


.BOOOM!!

And if you think any of what's going on to destroy your nation and sovereignty isn't bad enough..wait until they unleash the "nano bot mosquitos" that can kill us..but hey that's just fear mongering as well because we all know mosquitos are a good thing..although one person has already been killed by one and they covered it up..DO THE RESEARCH

smokin ..smoked



numbers can show what we want them to show, from CATO institute:

Let’s examine the raw numbers: In 2015, natives were convicted of 409,063 crimes, illegal immigrants were convicted of 13,753 crimes, and legal immigrants were convicted of 7,643 crimes in Texas.

Natives were convicted of a disproportionate 95 percent of all crimes, although they only made up 83 percent of Texas’ population. Illegal immigrants, making up just six percent of the population, were convicted of only three percent of the crimes. And legal immigrants were even less crime prone, making up 11 percent of the population but receiving only two percent of criminal convictions.

Even in a Republican-governed border state like Texas with law enforcement officials very concerned about illegal immigration — and with a reputation for enforcing criminal laws to the hilt — illegal immigrants appear less crime-prone than natives.

This holds true even for particularly violent crimes. Many Americans are concerned about murders committed by illegal immigrants, notably the killing of Kate Steinle in San Francisco in 2015. Steinle’s killing was a tragedy but, as the Texas crime data shows, it is a remarkably rare one, at least in the Lone Star state. There were 951 total homicide convictions in Texas in 2015. Of those, native-born Americans were convicted of 885 homicides, whereas illegal and legal immigrants face 51 and 15 such convictions, respectively.

In other words, there were 2.9 murder convictions of illegal immigrants in Texas for every 100,000 of them living there that year. That’s compared to 3.9 convictions of native-born Americans for every 100,000 natives. Once again, legal immigrants were the most peaceful as there were only 0.51 homicide convictions for every 100,000 legal immigrants.
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/everything-bigger-texas-except-illegal-immigrant-crime-rate

And my point still stands, that if it has not shown detrimental to us when the numbers have been MUCH HIGHER In the past, AND those numbers have declined, I fail to see how it is suddenly a 'crisis'.

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