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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2. - part 2
oldkid46's photo
Sun 04/07/19 07:33 AM




SOMEONE must stop these people pouring into our country. They are like any other group of people. Some are good and honest, while others are vicious and truly outlaws. If we need a military coup here in the United States, then I feel that is the best way now to take over command and close the border. It is unfortunate when good people must suffer due to the bad...but I do not see any Dems offering to fence off a huge portion of their property, install water, bathrooms, and homes for these people. The general population can no longer tolerate most of our tax money going for supplying illegals with necessities when we have CITIZENS in need. Its time for someone to do something drastic.



does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?

Is this not like making a statement that most imprisoned haven really committed crimes so shut the jails down?

Where are the numbers to justify such claims or solutions?

We already have a border, and it has been DECREASING illegal crossings ALREADY, why suddenly is it not enough?






does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?


Answers.


Trump says undocumented immigrants are an economic burden. They pay billions in taxes.

"Unauthorized immigrants paid more than $20 billion in income taxes in 2015. They also fund Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security".


"One of the biggest misconceptions about undocumented immigrants is that they don’t pay any taxes. In his first address to Congress in 2017, President Donald Trump set the tone for his immigration agenda when he said immigration costs US taxpayers “billions of dollars a year". Two years later, he is still repeating that lie. In his State of the Union speech on Tuesday, he once again suggested that unauthorized immigrants are a burden to US taxpayers.


http://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17229018/undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes


Fact check: How much does illegal immigration cost America? Not nearly as much as Trump claims.

"As President Donald Trump continued his weeks-long push for Congress to give him the funds he demanded for his border wall, he stressed a false claim about how much illegal immigration costs the country".


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-check-how-much-does-illegal-immigration-cost-america-not-n950981

How do Undocumented Immigrants Pay Federal Taxes? An Explainer

"As Tax Day 2018 approaches, it is worth exploring a pressing question that is widely misunderstood: do undocumented immigrants pay federal taxes?

The short answer is yes. Many undocumented immigrants find ways to legally pay both federal income and payroll taxes even if they don’t have a Social Security number (which is normally required) and even if their income was earned by working illegally".

http://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-federal-taxes-an-explainer/


Undocumented immigrants quietly pay billions into Social Security and receive no benefits

"If all undocumented immigrants were deported today, next year’s Social Security trust funds would have approximately $13 billion less for benefit payouts. It’s a considerable loss of dollars, especially when it’s projected that the Social Security funds will be depleted by 2034".

http://www.marketplace.org/2019/01/28/economy/undocumented-immigrants-quietly-pay-billions-social-security-and-receive-no

Trump tells his big whopper lies. And some people believe it. While others post wild conspiracy theories that only a child should believe. But grown people in the internet age would rather remain ignorant and in the dark. Trying to find their way through a dark rabbit hole. When the truth is right in front of them in plain sight. If you follow the money, whether it be Democrat or Republican, you will find the truth.

The truth I think is part of the reason that Democrats fight for immigrants, Money. Billions paid into the system by immigrants. Just think what would happen if we lost all that money? And that's the truth of it. Trump want's you to believe his lies. He wants to build a wall that we don't need so when he goes out in 2020 he will have his great wall monument to himself.






How do Undocumented Immigrants Pay Federal Taxes? An Explainer
This does help understand our screwed up tax system and illegal immigrants. It also reinforces the Presidents call for immigration reform as the IRS and Homeland Security laws are not compatible.

hardBNhard's photo
Sun 04/07/19 08:26 AM





SOMEONE must stop these people pouring into our country. They are like any other group of people. Some are good and honest, while others are vicious and truly outlaws. If we need a military coup here in the United States, then I feel that is the best way now to take over command and close the border. It is unfortunate when good people must suffer due to the bad...but I do not see any Dems offering to fence off a huge portion of their property, install water, bathrooms, and homes for these people. The general population can no longer tolerate most of our tax money going for supplying illegals with necessities when we have CITIZENS in need. Its time for someone to do something drastic.



does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?

Is this not like making a statement that most imprisoned haven really committed crimes so shut the jails down?

Where are the numbers to justify such claims or solutions?

We already have a border, and it has been DECREASING illegal crossings ALREADY, why suddenly is it not enough?






does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?


Answers.


Trump says undocumented immigrants are an economic burden. They pay billions in taxes.

"Unauthorized immigrants paid more than $20 billion in income taxes in 2015. They also fund Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security".


"One of the biggest misconceptions about undocumented immigrants is that they don’t pay any taxes. In his first address to Congress in 2017, President Donald Trump set the tone for his immigration agenda when he said immigration costs US taxpayers “billions of dollars a year". Two years later, he is still repeating that lie. In his State of the Union speech on Tuesday, he once again suggested that unauthorized immigrants are a burden to US taxpayers.


http://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17229018/undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes


Fact check: How much does illegal immigration cost America? Not nearly as much as Trump claims.

"As President Donald Trump continued his weeks-long push for Congress to give him the funds he demanded for his border wall, he stressed a false claim about how much illegal immigration costs the country".


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-check-how-much-does-illegal-immigration-cost-america-not-n950981

How do Undocumented Immigrants Pay Federal Taxes? An Explainer

"As Tax Day 2018 approaches, it is worth exploring a pressing question that is widely misunderstood: do undocumented immigrants pay federal taxes?

The short answer is yes. Many undocumented immigrants find ways to legally pay both federal income and payroll taxes even if they don’t have a Social Security number (which is normally required) and even if their income was earned by working illegally".

http://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-federal-taxes-an-explainer/


Undocumented immigrants quietly pay billions into Social Security and receive no benefits

"If all undocumented immigrants were deported today, next year’s Social Security trust funds would have approximately $13 billion less for benefit payouts. It’s a considerable loss of dollars, especially when it’s projected that the Social Security funds will be depleted by 2034".

http://www.marketplace.org/2019/01/28/economy/undocumented-immigrants-quietly-pay-billions-social-security-and-receive-no

Trump tells his big whopper lies. And some people believe it. While others post wild conspiracy theories that only a child should believe. But grown people in the internet age would rather remain ignorant and in the dark. Trying to find their way through a dark rabbit hole. When the truth is right in front of them in plain sight. If you follow the money, whether it be Democrat or Republican, you will find the truth.

The truth I think is part of the reason that Democrats fight for immigrants, Money. Billions paid into the system by immigrants. Just think what would happen if we lost all that money? And that's the truth of it. Trump want's you to believe his lies. He wants to build a wall that we don't need so when he goes out in 2020 he will have his great wall monument to himself.






How do Undocumented Immigrants Pay Federal Taxes? An Explainer
This does help understand our screwed up tax system and illegal immigrants. It also reinforces the Presidents call for immigration reform as the IRS and Homeland Security laws are not compatible.

And ive heard through different media sources that 60% of those figures are children !

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Sun 04/07/19 10:03 AM

READ THIS: spock



https://bongino.com/do-illegal-immigrants-really-pay-10-billion-a-year-in-taxes/





oldkid46's photo
Sun 04/07/19 10:53 AM


READ THIS: spock



https://bongino.com/do-illegal-immigrants-really-pay-10-billion-a-year-in-taxes/





Some truth to the article but just like the pundits on the left, a distortion of the facts to make a political point. Both articles agree that only about half of illegals pay taxes. Both articles agree about the estimated federal and FICA they contribute. The major difference is the discussion of the cost to the government and society of illegal immigrates working. One says mostly nothing and the other more than their tax contribution. Just depends on how you present the argument and what you include in "costs".

It is a real disappointment when neither side wants to actually resolve the immigration mess!! There have been several attempts in the last couple years and partisan politics have killed the effort. What we really need is to elect a fresh Congress, ALL of them!!!!!

FeelYoung's photo
Sun 04/07/19 11:16 AM
I do not believe Trump will be "going out" in 2020. I think the Dems will mess up their debates, that Pelosi will be replaced and Trump will be re-elected. I have no money or I would make a sizable bet. :)

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Sun 04/07/19 11:24 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sun 04/07/19 11:27 AM
(TERRORISTS are sneaking through our border.)

NOBODY has said that no terrorist has tried to make it through the border. It's just not what Trump and conspiracy theories tries to make it out to be.

Center for Immigration Studies

"On several occasions in October 2018, President Donald Trump and some administration officials suggested that migrants from Middle Eastern countries might have traveled among the thousands of Hondurans in a U.S.-bound column. Later, the president stated he had "very good information" that Middle Eastern migrants had been traveling through Latin America for a number of years, independently of migrant columns, that "there could very well be" Islamic terrorists in this traffic, and that U.S. Border Patrol has intercepted "some real bad ones".1

The administration did not provide either publicly available or protected Classified and Law Enforcement Sensitive information to support the assertions, leaving them challenged and unresolved, whereas more information might have advanced discourse regarding a significant security question relevant to an ongoing national policy debate. Republican Sen. Jeff Flake, in one emblematic expression, dismissed the idea of Middle Eastern travelers through Latin America and potential terrorists among them as "pretty much a canard and a fear tactic".2

This Backgrounder provides an initial accounting of publicly documented instances, between 2001 and November 2018, of some 15 migrants with credibly suspected or confirmed terrorism ties who were encountered at the southern border after smuggling through Latin America, or who were encountered while presumably en route. The purpose of this Backgrounder is to inform the extent to which claims by the Executive Branch and its skeptics are supportable and also to usefully inform any other interested stakeholders".



http://cis.org/Report/Have-Terrorists-Crossed-Our-Border

Only 15 in 17 years.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/07/19 11:40 AM






SOMEONE must stop these people pouring into our country. They are like any other group of people. Some are good and honest, while others are vicious and truly outlaws. If we need a military coup here in the United States, then I feel that is the best way now to take over command and close the border. It is unfortunate when good people must suffer due to the bad...but I do not see any Dems offering to fence off a huge portion of their property, install water, bathrooms, and homes for these people. The general population can no longer tolerate most of our tax money going for supplying illegals with necessities when we have CITIZENS in need. Its time for someone to do something drastic.



does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?

Is this not like making a statement that most imprisoned haven really committed crimes so shut the jails down?

Where are the numbers to justify such claims or solutions?

We already have a border, and it has been DECREASING illegal crossings ALREADY, why suddenly is it not enough?




You must have missed my post on page 17 about border apprehensions increasing. It is a problem and we do need some solutions! Takes both parties to make progress on the problem.



actually I will repost it here with my thoughts:


Although apprehensions remain lower than their peak of 1.6 million in 2000, daily border crossings have recently surpassed a 13-year high with an increase in the number of Central American migrants, largely families with children seeking asylum, coming to the U.S. border in recent months.


FIrstly, it does state TWO situations. One is apprehensions, the other is crossings. they are not the same thing.

Apprehensions deals with crossings that are illegal only. Crossings includes ALL Types of crossing, legal or otherwise.


Secondly, the paragraph is also comparing YEARLY averages to daily trends and does not state over how many days or what impact or significance that leads to when compared to other 'daily' peaks in other years.


So, to me, it is not a very helpful source of information regarding whether there is any real crisis to suddenly feel concerned with or which current resources will not continue to address or resolve.




However you want to represent what it means. Border statistics clearly show an increase in immigrants trying to get into the US either through requesting asylum at the ports of entry or after they are apprehended, or being inadmissible. February 2019 was 76,103 vs February 2018 at 36,751. That seems like a significant increase to me and that many more immigrants our government needs to deal with.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


It is an increase, Under Trump by the way. But it is easy to nitpick certain time frames to show such short term trends. The question is what does it really show?

SImilar jumps have happened throughout the years but the TREND is still been downward.

In march 2003, for instance, there were 100,000 apprehensions compared to 160,000 in the next year. I dont recall a peep from either side and no 'urgency' about a wall then. And then, without a new wall, in march of 06 it DROPPED from 160,000 to 110,000. So, as I said, for the question of border security, a comparison of only two points in time doesn't really prove much one way or another, and apparently has little to do with border walls. There is a CBP based chart of march apprehensions here:


http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/the-stats-on-border-apprehensions/



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Sun 04/07/19 11:46 AM
people say they come to our country illegally , sell and use drugs, rape people, and they take our jobs.

I must ask what line of work are you in?

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/07/19 11:48 AM

people say they come to our country illegally , sell and use drugs, rape people, and they take our jobs.

I must ask what line of work are you in?



people also say Elvis and Tupac are still alive.

If it is addressed to me, I am a transcriptionist.

oldkid46's photo
Sun 04/07/19 11:59 AM







SOMEONE must stop these people pouring into our country. They are like any other group of people. Some are good and honest, while others are vicious and truly outlaws. If we need a military coup here in the United States, then I feel that is the best way now to take over command and close the border. It is unfortunate when good people must suffer due to the bad...but I do not see any Dems offering to fence off a huge portion of their property, install water, bathrooms, and homes for these people. The general population can no longer tolerate most of our tax money going for supplying illegals with necessities when we have CITIZENS in need. Its time for someone to do something drastic.



does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?

Is this not like making a statement that most imprisoned haven really committed crimes so shut the jails down?

Where are the numbers to justify such claims or solutions?

We already have a border, and it has been DECREASING illegal crossings ALREADY, why suddenly is it not enough?




You must have missed my post on page 17 about border apprehensions increasing. It is a problem and we do need some solutions! Takes both parties to make progress on the problem.



actually I will repost it here with my thoughts:


Although apprehensions remain lower than their peak of 1.6 million in 2000, daily border crossings have recently surpassed a 13-year high with an increase in the number of Central American migrants, largely families with children seeking asylum, coming to the U.S. border in recent months.


FIrstly, it does state TWO situations. One is apprehensions, the other is crossings. they are not the same thing.

Apprehensions deals with crossings that are illegal only. Crossings includes ALL Types of crossing, legal or otherwise.


Secondly, the paragraph is also comparing YEARLY averages to daily trends and does not state over how many days or what impact or significance that leads to when compared to other 'daily' peaks in other years.


So, to me, it is not a very helpful source of information regarding whether there is any real crisis to suddenly feel concerned with or which current resources will not continue to address or resolve.




However you want to represent what it means. Border statistics clearly show an increase in immigrants trying to get into the US either through requesting asylum at the ports of entry or after they are apprehended, or being inadmissible. February 2019 was 76,103 vs February 2018 at 36,751. That seems like a significant increase to me and that many more immigrants our government needs to deal with.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


It is an increase, Under Trump by the way. But it is easy to nitpick certain time frames to show such short term trends. The question is what does it really show?

SImilar jumps have happened throughout the years but the TREND is still been downward.

In march 2003, for instance, there were 100,000 apprehensions compared to 160,000 in the next year. I dont recall a peep from either side and no 'urgency' about a wall then. And then, without a new wall, in march of 06 it DROPPED from 160,000 to 110,000. So, as I said, for the question of border security, a comparison of only two points in time doesn't really prove much one way or another, and apparently has little to do with border walls. There is a CBP based chart of march apprehensions here:


http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/the-stats-on-border-apprehensions/



We appear to be mixing apples and oranges. Your number for March 2018 indicates less than 40k people and my number for March 2018 is over 50k. Yours seems to be the number of apprehensions of those who entered illegally. The 50k represents both apprehensions and those who were refused entry at the border. The number of immigrants allowed into the country based on their request for asylum is not included in either number. I do not know what that number is. It does appear that there has been a significant increase in all the numbers from 2018 to 2019.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/07/19 12:27 PM








SOMEONE must stop these people pouring into our country. They are like any other group of people. Some are good and honest, while others are vicious and truly outlaws. If we need a military coup here in the United States, then I feel that is the best way now to take over command and close the border. It is unfortunate when good people must suffer due to the bad...but I do not see any Dems offering to fence off a huge portion of their property, install water, bathrooms, and homes for these people. The general population can no longer tolerate most of our tax money going for supplying illegals with necessities when we have CITIZENS in need. Its time for someone to do something drastic.



does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?

Is this not like making a statement that most imprisoned haven really committed crimes so shut the jails down?

Where are the numbers to justify such claims or solutions?

We already have a border, and it has been DECREASING illegal crossings ALREADY, why suddenly is it not enough?




You must have missed my post on page 17 about border apprehensions increasing. It is a problem and we do need some solutions! Takes both parties to make progress on the problem.



actually I will repost it here with my thoughts:


Although apprehensions remain lower than their peak of 1.6 million in 2000, daily border crossings have recently surpassed a 13-year high with an increase in the number of Central American migrants, largely families with children seeking asylum, coming to the U.S. border in recent months.


FIrstly, it does state TWO situations. One is apprehensions, the other is crossings. they are not the same thing.

Apprehensions deals with crossings that are illegal only. Crossings includes ALL Types of crossing, legal or otherwise.


Secondly, the paragraph is also comparing YEARLY averages to daily trends and does not state over how many days or what impact or significance that leads to when compared to other 'daily' peaks in other years.


So, to me, it is not a very helpful source of information regarding whether there is any real crisis to suddenly feel concerned with or which current resources will not continue to address or resolve.




However you want to represent what it means. Border statistics clearly show an increase in immigrants trying to get into the US either through requesting asylum at the ports of entry or after they are apprehended, or being inadmissible. February 2019 was 76,103 vs February 2018 at 36,751. That seems like a significant increase to me and that many more immigrants our government needs to deal with.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


It is an increase, Under Trump by the way. But it is easy to nitpick certain time frames to show such short term trends. The question is what does it really show?

SImilar jumps have happened throughout the years but the TREND is still been downward.

In march 2003, for instance, there were 100,000 apprehensions compared to 160,000 in the next year. I dont recall a peep from either side and no 'urgency' about a wall then. And then, without a new wall, in march of 06 it DROPPED from 160,000 to 110,000. So, as I said, for the question of border security, a comparison of only two points in time doesn't really prove much one way or another, and apparently has little to do with border walls. There is a CBP based chart of march apprehensions here:


http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/the-stats-on-border-apprehensions/



We appear to be mixing apples and oranges. Your number for March 2018 indicates less than 40k people and my number for March 2018 is over 50k. Yours seems to be the number of apprehensions of those who entered illegally. The 50k represents both apprehensions and those who were refused entry at the border. The number of immigrants allowed into the country based on their request for asylum is not included in either number. I do not know what that number is. It does appear that there has been a significant increase in all the numbers from 2018 to 2019.


from your source, the numbers are inclusive of apprehensions and several other classes:

OFO inadmissibility metrics include: individuals encountered at ports of entry who are seeking lawful admission into the United States but are determined to be inadmissible, individuals presenting themselves to seek humanitarian protection under our laws, and individuals who withdraw an application for admission and return to their countries of origin within a short timeframe.


These additional classes are not an issue, since they are following the laws or do not enter.

The world is getting bigger, I expect raw numbers will reflect that within the numbers of people who are native born or legally migrating.



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Sun 04/07/19 01:29 PM

CHECK THIS OUT: THIS EXPLAINS ALOT OF WHAT IS GOING ON

(SH 22)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCY33w5SkZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWzWvhtMTys



They will tell you not to listen to Q and that it is a conspiracy theory but Q will tell you what is going on..You don't have to believe what I am telling you..but you can listen to it and when Q tells you what is happening or going to happen and then it happens..it will be the validation you seek..Like I have said Q is the best intel and the main way to get the truth and get around all the lies the main stream media is trying to get everyone to believe..

The reason the Russian Collusion and the obstruction narrative has failed is because they have been lying to us all along..They tell you that Q is a conspiracy because they don't want you to listen to what he is saying..Just listen follow and you will be able to validate Q for yourself. ..this is not about who is right or wrong..it's about the nation and the welfare of yourselves and your families..DO NOT listen to the main stream media..listen to Q

TOMBS out..smokin



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Sun 04/07/19 02:19 PM
Edited by hardBNhard on Sun 04/07/19 02:54 PM
Q is full of crap ! Its all lies and conspiracy theories aimed at dividing the people for the sake of White Nationalist ! And its links are corrupt with Mal-Ware
Q is for Quacks whoa

FeelYoung's photo
Sun 04/07/19 02:44 PM
It's easy to see why the governments all over the world are in turmoil, Citizens want to be heard.... in some countries like the Congo and Venezuela they are just shot in the streets. In France and England and India they mob the streets with signs and throw stones and start fires but nothing changes. In the USA the media is Fake and unstable so you can have ONE speaker on THREE different channels saying 3 different things. All the people posting on here are desperate to push THEIR link to the front but I think many are like myself and read the writing but never click on the link. It used to be that journalism was an honorable profession. But now it has lowered itself to National Enquirer levels. So worldwide, you have people screaming at each other, trying to kill others and trying to sneak into or out of countries. It's a very sad state of affairs. I see no one on here, liberal OR conservative who has really posted a short summary of the TRUE state of affairs here in the USA. I feel like it was so much simpler in WWII when you knew who the bad guys were and you knew who had your back. Enuf said.

hardBNhard's photo
Sun 04/07/19 02:52 PM









SOMEONE must stop these people pouring into our country. They are like any other group of people. Some are good and honest, while others are vicious and truly outlaws. If we need a military coup here in the United States, then I feel that is the best way now to take over command and close the border. It is unfortunate when good people must suffer due to the bad...but I do not see any Dems offering to fence off a huge portion of their property, install water, bathrooms, and homes for these people. The general population can no longer tolerate most of our tax money going for supplying illegals with necessities when we have CITIZENS in need. Its time for someone to do something drastic.



does MOST of the taxpayer money go to illegals?

Is this not like making a statement that most imprisoned haven really committed crimes so shut the jails down?

Where are the numbers to justify such claims or solutions?

We already have a border, and it has been DECREASING illegal crossings ALREADY, why suddenly is it not enough?




You must have missed my post on page 17 about border apprehensions increasing. It is a problem and we do need some solutions! Takes both parties to make progress on the problem.



actually I will repost it here with my thoughts:


Although apprehensions remain lower than their peak of 1.6 million in 2000, daily border crossings have recently surpassed a 13-year high with an increase in the number of Central American migrants, largely families with children seeking asylum, coming to the U.S. border in recent months.


FIrstly, it does state TWO situations. One is apprehensions, the other is crossings. they are not the same thing.

Apprehensions deals with crossings that are illegal only. Crossings includes ALL Types of crossing, legal or otherwise.


Secondly, the paragraph is also comparing YEARLY averages to daily trends and does not state over how many days or what impact or significance that leads to when compared to other 'daily' peaks in other years.


So, to me, it is not a very helpful source of information regarding whether there is any real crisis to suddenly feel concerned with or which current resources will not continue to address or resolve.




However you want to represent what it means. Border statistics clearly show an increase in immigrants trying to get into the US either through requesting asylum at the ports of entry or after they are apprehended, or being inadmissible. February 2019 was 76,103 vs February 2018 at 36,751. That seems like a significant increase to me and that many more immigrants our government needs to deal with.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


It is an increase, Under Trump by the way. But it is easy to nitpick certain time frames to show such short term trends. The question is what does it really show?

SImilar jumps have happened throughout the years but the TREND is still been downward.

In march 2003, for instance, there were 100,000 apprehensions compared to 160,000 in the next year. I dont recall a peep from either side and no 'urgency' about a wall then. And then, without a new wall, in march of 06 it DROPPED from 160,000 to 110,000. So, as I said, for the question of border security, a comparison of only two points in time doesn't really prove much one way or another, and apparently has little to do with border walls. There is a CBP based chart of march apprehensions here:


http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/the-stats-on-border-apprehensions/



We appear to be mixing apples and oranges. Your number for March 2018 indicates less than 40k people and my number for March 2018 is over 50k. Yours seems to be the number of apprehensions of those who entered illegally. The 50k represents both apprehensions and those who were refused entry at the border. The number of immigrants allowed into the country based on their request for asylum is not included in either number. I do not know what that number is. It does appear that there has been a significant increase in all the numbers from 2018 to 2019.


from your source, the numbers are inclusive of apprehensions and several other classes:

OFO inadmissibility metrics include: individuals encountered at ports of entry who are seeking lawful admission into the United States but are determined to be inadmissible, individuals presenting themselves to seek humanitarian protection under our laws, and individuals who withdraw an application for admission and return to their countries of origin within a short timeframe.


These additional classes are not an issue, since they are following the laws or do not enter.

The world is getting bigger, I expect raw numbers will reflect that within the numbers of people who are native born or legally migrating.




True dat

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Sun 04/07/19 03:49 PM
So the democrat's can't keep Russiagate in front of the public. The news media seems to have dropped it. The new "keep the image bad in front of the public" is the democrat's demanding to see President Trumps tax returns.

It would seem logical if the president's taxes were problematic the IRS would have looked into this years ago. During the Obama era the IRS was known for being biased toward conservatives. No doubt if there was something it would have appeared before or during the election. Just another attempt to continue attacking the president.

hardBNhard's photo
Sun 04/07/19 03:53 PM
Edited by hardBNhard on Sun 04/07/19 03:54 PM
Then if he has nothing to hide why is he fighting so hard and spending millions in tax dollars to hide it ???

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/07/19 04:09 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 04/07/19 04:10 PM

So the democrat's can't keep Russiagate in front of the public. The news media seems to have dropped it. The new "keep the image bad in front of the public" is the democrat's demanding to see President Trumps tax returns.

It would seem logical if the president's taxes were problematic the IRS would have looked into this years ago. During the Obama era the IRS was known for being biased toward conservatives. No doubt if there was something it would have appeared before or during the election. Just another attempt to continue attacking the president.


I think there is more to whether there is anything 'illegal'. Just like people asking that news and others cite their financial sponsors, its more a way of 'following the money' to potential biases or motives, which COULD lead to 'illegal' favors within a political capacity.



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Sun 04/07/19 05:04 PM
Just another attempt to continue attacking the president.


Trump is own worst Enemy. Nobody has to "attempt" anything. Trump opens himself up to be attacked. Trump tells so many lies, You can't believe a word he says. He gives ammunition against himself with the words out of his own mouth.

Trump's big stupid mouth is the smoking gun in a court fight over immigration

Remember when the words "shithole country" erupted from Trump's oozing, racist mouth-hole? Yeah, so does everyone else.

The remarks have proven particularly useful for immigration advocates who are suing the Trump regime over its policy of revoking Temporary Protected Status from 200,000 brown people from four countries who are lawfully resident in the USA.

At the first hearing last week at a US District Court in San Francisco, ACLU Southern California legal director Ahilan Arulanantham argued that "shithole country" was evidence that the Trump regime's ethnic cleansing program "was motivated by its racism against non-white, non-Europeans immigrants," and "That racist motivation was obvious from a number of statements that this president and others in the administration made, including about TPS holders specifically."

http://boingboing.net/2018/06/28/haiti-el-salvador-nicaragua-su.html


US attorney general pressed for evidence clearing Trump


"Washington (AFP) - Two weeks after he cleared President Donald Trump in the Russia meddling investigation, Attorney General Bill Barr faces mounting pressure to show the full evidence behind his decision.

Allegations this week that the US Justice chief played down serious evidence of illegal obstruction by Trump in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's final report are fueling demands that he release the entire, unexpurgated document to Congress".


http://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/us-attorney-general-bill-barr-pressed-for-evidence-clearing-trump-in-russia


Smoking Gun: Incredibly Stupid Things Donald Trump Has Said About Climate Change


"It’s no surprise that the current President, referred to by those closest to him as “an idiot,” “dope,” and “moron,” has excelled at the dumbness competition that is mainstream Republican reaction to climate change. Here are some of his standout moments".

http://progressive.org/magazine/on-the-line-a-bright-redd-line/

Trump's war on windmills now includes wild cancer claim

"The Spanish have that famous book with the knight who goes tilting at windmills because he thinks they're hulking giants.

The Americans have the President whose hatred of windmills is no less epic. He thinks they're cancer-causing bird killers that drive down property values, and he fought against putting them within sight of his golf course.
"Hillary wanted to put up wind," said President Donald Trump at a fundraiser for Republicans in Washington Tuesday, kicking off an extended riff about the evils of windmills -- wind turbines, more accurately -- and the inadequacy of wind energy. It's worth looking at in full since it's clearly becoming part of his stump speech and feeds into his larger distrust of renewable energy and his mocking of climate change".

http://www.cnn.com/2019/04/03/politics/trumps-war-on-windmills-now-includes-wild-cancer-claim/index.html

Mining Industry Pro on Trump’s Promises To Bring Back Coal: ‘He’s Lying’

"WASHINGTON – For more than 50 years, Art Sullivan has worked as a coal miner, mine manager and industry consultant in the U.S. and around the world. When CNN asked him about President Trump’s promises to miners that he will save their jobs, Sullivan was blunt:

“He's trying to get their votes,” said Sullivan, of Washington, Pa. “He’s lying to them".

http://www.ewg.org/release/mining-industry-pro-trump-s-promises-bring-back-coal-he-s-lying


Saying something dumb here and there, that's just human. We are all guilty of that very thing at one time or another. Trump, he opens his mouth and either tells outright lies. Or, just says something stupid, A lot. It's not just that occasional slip of the tongue. It's all the time and all ignorant. Trump opens himself up to scrutiny. He opens himself up to be attacked.


Anthony Scaramucci says Trump's McCain attacks are 'stupid'

"President Donald Trump's attacks on the late Sen. John McCain are "stupid" and "socially unnatural," Anthony Scaramucci said Thursday.

"He's hitting something that is socially unnatural. And so what is that? You're attacking somebody that died seven months ago," Scaramucci told CNN's John Berman on "New Day." "Now, I understand the point and I understand the grievance that the President's bringing up, but you're not scoring any points with anybody".

http://www.cnn.com/2019/03/21/politics/anthony-scaramucci-trump-mccain-attacks-cnntv/index.html

DONALD TRUMP ATTACKED SIX BLACK WOMEN IN THREE DAYS: ‘NASTY,’ ‘LOSER,’ ‘RACIST QUESTION’ AND ‘STUPID QUESTION’


"Donald Trump, who defended himself against claims of racism just this week, has attacked six prominent black women in the three days since the midterm elections that resulted in Democrats taking House control from the Republicans.

Trump challenged the women's intelligence and in a degrading tone called one "nasty" and a “loser.” He also said he was being asked a “racist question” and a “stupid question.”

The women ranged from journalists to an election official, a politician and a former first lady.

Here is what Trump said about the women".

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-attacked-black-women-racist-question-1209872




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Sun 04/07/19 05:40 PM
The IRS audits most anyone over a certain level of income such as President Trump. There was probably a team of auditors that have followed Trump tax returns for years. Should he not have filed a legal tax return and paid his taxes, I'm sure the IRS would have gone to great lengths to collect what they thought was owing.

I think it is all about politics. The Trump tax returns would give the democrats plenty of ammunition to claim Trump is a poor, little rich boy that has no idea of what being a common person is about. I would expect Trump's income to be on a similar level as other CEOs, celebrities, and sports stars. His and Melania's income probably makes the Obama's look like the poor folk struggling to get by. Trump probably paid more in taxes than the Obamas made!!

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