Topic: How do I handle this one? (Girls ONLY)
longhairbiker's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:13 PM
See jayme we love you. And were all havin fun now and you have learned a little about being humble and a little about humility and honor. And I'm going to run around all weekend calling my freinds "lackadaisical".

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:13 PM
Edited by cutelildevilsmom on Sat 12/08/07 03:14 PM
Lee i feel for her also because i have a daughter just like her.Knows all.Jayme ,I dont censure myself either.Call a spade a spade.My daughter doesnt like it so she doesnt call much.laugh Knowing someone needs you and loves you unconditionally is a great feeling. dont have a baby to fill that void.
Your 23yrs old and have all the time in the world and settle down.I'm sorry for the loss of your sister and your childhood.

Jess642's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:13 PM
Gustava, in an ideal world, yes.

There are plenty of 'impregnators' out there, too.

Plenty of "delinquent dads, and delinquent mums".

Plenty of abandoned kids, by one parent or the other.

I was married to my children's father, that didn't guarantee two parents...healthy, balanced, or otherwise.

I have raised them alone, for the past eight years, four, two of each gender, with no contact whatsoever by their dad, no support, financial emotional or physical....a child needs a healthy parent, two is better, but one is sufficient.... I know this as fact....mine aren't crazy...laugh :wink:


Gustava's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:16 PM
Edited by Gustava on Sat 12/08/07 03:17 PM

Gustava, in an ideal world, yes.

There are plenty of 'impregnators' out there, too.

Plenty of "delinquent dads, and delinquent mums".

Plenty of abandoned kids, by one parent or the other.

I was married to my children's father, that didn't guarantee two parents...healthy, balanced, or otherwise.

I have raised them alone, for the past eight years, four, two of each gender, with no contact whatsoever by their dad, no support, financial emotional or physical....a child needs a healthy parent, two is better, but one is sufficient.... I know this as fact....mine aren't crazy...laugh :wink:



Yes, obviously. I too am a single mother. The difference is, you don't just go out and purposely create a child willy-nilly. You try to give the child the best you can possibly give him---which is two parents.

PS. I CAN'T believe I'm arguing on this side of the equation....

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:17 PM
amen Lee.My son 's dad just off and moved to singapore for 3 yrs with out so much as a how do you do.He e-mailed me yesterday after a year of silence to inform me he had moved..in May.now that he is in singapore he wants to keep Brandon in his life but in NH nothing.all i can say is thanks for the check!!!

longhairbiker's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:22 PM
My computer just exploded and went up in flames. It couldn't take it anymore. I know how it feels. Think I will jump in front of a bus.

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:25 PM
What if both parents, though not married, can get along, be really good friends, live close so that the child can have equal time or even all share time together as much as possible, and were both loving parents? Wouldnt' that be more balanced than ripping them through a terrible divorce and custody battle, which with the divorce rates these days, its inevitable? Seriously, how does that sound more mature to you?

longhairbiker's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:26 PM
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cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:27 PM
Jamie thats an ideal situation that works great till the other parent gets a partner who is jealous either of you or the baby.
Then it gets complicated.

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:28 PM


Just because there are "tons" of women doing it, doesn't make it right, good, or mature. In fact, I think women who pursue this action are simply selfish people who don't give a damn about anyone except themselves.


And that is your, rather judgmental, opinion. I feel differently. I would not EVER deny my child their father. If 2 people can come to a mature agreement on how to raise a child, and can get along... thats alot more healthy than living in a house where mom and dad are married and hit and fight and practically hate one another.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:28 PM
If this was a friends with benefits thing, how come there was no protection used????? That is my question??????noway OH Well, guess I am too square or somethin huh????noway

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:29 PM

Jamie thats an ideal situation that works great till the other parent gets a partner who is jealous either of you or the baby.
Then it gets complicated.


Then they can bounce on out of the equation.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:33 PM


Jamie thats an ideal situation that works great till the other parent gets a partner who is jealous either of you or the baby.
Then it gets complicated.


Then they can bounce on out of the equation.


not that easy .if you do become pregnant i hope you get this agreement in writing because it will save you a lot of headaches later.

Gustava's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:34 PM



Just because there are "tons" of women doing it, doesn't make it right, good, or mature. In fact, I think women who pursue this action are simply selfish people who don't give a damn about anyone except themselves.


And that is your, rather judgmental, opinion. I feel differently. I would not EVER deny my child their father. If 2 people can come to a mature agreement on how to raise a child, and can get along... thats alot more healthy than living in a house where mom and dad are married and hit and fight and practically hate one another.

Of course it's judgmental. I don't apologise. It seems that younger folks these days have gotten increasingly self-centered and are unwilling to look beyond their own selfish wants. Having a child is not a game. It's not something to do lightly. And I resent the attitude that having a child is like buying a puppy or whatever.

Gustava's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:36 PM

If this was a friends with benefits thing, how come there was no protection used????? That is my question??????noway OH Well, guess I am too square or somethin huh????noway

Yeah, I'm turning into an old L7 myself...

AllSmilesInTulsa's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:37 PM


Jamie thats an ideal situation that works great till the other parent gets a partner who is jealous either of you or the baby.
Then it gets complicated.


Then they can bounce on out of the equation.


How fair is THAT to the child???

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:38 PM
I dont' see having a child as a game either, thank you very much. You're welcome to stop judging me any time now, I really am kinda sick if you.

Having a child period is selfish, I know this. No matter WHO you are, or WHAT you say your reasons are, its never anything but. Even YOU. Wanting to bring a child into this world is selfish, but every new life is a chance at a better future.

Gustava's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:39 PM

I dont' see having a child as a game either, thank you very much. You're welcome to stop judging me any time now, I really am kinda sick if you.

Having a child period is selfish, I know this. No matter WHO you are, or WHAT you say your reasons are, its never anything but. Even YOU. Wanting to bring a child into this world is selfish, but every new life is a chance at a better future.

And I am sick of childish women who can't get their brains out of their crotches for two seconds.

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:40 PM



Jamie thats an ideal situation that works great till the other parent gets a partner who is jealous either of you or the baby.
Then it gets complicated.


Then they can bounce on out of the equation.


How fair is THAT to the child???


I was talking about the other person that could possibly come into the equation, not the other parent. That would presumably be something you'd discuss before it happened to know how to handle that situation...

Gustava's photo
Sat 12/08/07 03:41 PM
And if you don't want to be judged, keep your mouth and your "problems" to yourself. This IS a public forum, you know.