then you have not been here long

or you do not pay very good attention

they close at 1000 posts

and they get deleted if

to much hostility and disrespect appear

if one thinks a post should be close

it is a very easy thing to have done

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JUST DO NOT GO BACK INTO IT
and then as far as that person is concerned
it is closed

1. I'm NOT contracting ANYTHING!!! He's the first person in a long time I've not used a condom with, and I KNOW he's clean! You don't know him, you weren't there when I read the papers stating he had no diseases. You ALSO weren't there when my ob/gyn in Arkansas told me that I have PCOS and only the slimmest chance of ever having a child without meds... and since I'm not on fertility meds, the likely hood is almost impossible. We're not JUST f*ck buddies, we're also FRIENDS.

2. circumstances? I take care of what needs taken care of, how is that a bad circumstance? I didn't PLAN anything, but ya know what, if it happens I'll be alright and so would my child. I'd figure it out without any help from the peanut gallery. He and I have talked and he is more than happy to help me IF that's the case and he makes a decent wage too, so my child, if I were to have one, would be just fine.

3. My mother wants more grandchildren, thank you very much. She knows how much I want to be a mother and supports me and knows that I'm perfectly capable of raising a child.

4. I HAVE A DAMN JOB!!! I TAKE CARE OF MY NEPHEW AND GET COMPENSATED PLENTY FOR IT. I'M JUST FINE THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! I don't think I everything, but I know myself. Something none of you know.

They have closed threads down. Though I think it's due to people getting out of hand. This is out of hand in a way. Mike stop the thread before we lose our minds.

I never said I wanted it closed. I just observed that I had never seen it done. This thread doesn't bother me.

my apologies

No worries. :)

Hmmmmmmmm every woman in this thread that has commented has kids.....interesting.......we must be all talking outta our azz then.....

Very good point Gypsy!!

hmmm...i personally feel that having the entire family involved in raising a child is a good thing. i think it's marvelous that you have familial support, jayme...and that you can rely on them. children benefit from contact with decent members of their family. it takes a village, and all that.

i also live in arkansas, so i know a bit about the arkids first insurance program...a family of four, like mine, can make up to $41,299.92 per year and still be qualified for coverage. it's an awesome program, and i thank mike huckabee daily for it...as my children have definitely burned up the costs on this one.

what concerns me, honestly...is that you aren't taking good care of yourself. one should try their best to be in good health BEFORE getting pregnant...no smoking, no drugs, no drinking...to eliminate chances of harm to the child.

it's not fair to bring children into the world and cripple their chances by making bad choices...

Amen to that.

So, the potential father, may not be so welcoming of a potential pregnancy, but chose to not use protection.

Even though he was informed the chances of conception were very slim.

He still chose to not take responsibility for what he didn't want.


No lies told, no entrapment, no crying foul, on his part....he made his choice.

May I also add, when I had my first child at 21, I was selfish, my motives were about me...

I chose to continue the pregnancy... even though the father of the child and I were not together, when the pregnancy was discovered.

Subsequently, we went on, to become a family, and have three more children.....and it would appear to outsiders, we were very irresponsible, pretty much with our first child, kids, having kids.

Who does have it all together, when having their first child, who doesn't have a child for selfish reasons?


We can chastise, and persecute Jayme, until the cows come home... I know I wouldn't have listened to anyone at her age, and yet, I have four awesome citizens of this world.

Of course it's a "good thing". However, one should not rely on one's family to support, raise, care for, etc, one's child. What happens if the grandmother becomes seriously ill or dies*? Having family is important, but you damn well better be able to take care of your children by yourself.

*Speaking from experience, I would have been in a hell of a mess had I relied on my mother to help raise my children---she got sick and died of cancer when they (children) were pretty young.

I actually did have it "all together" when my first kid was born. I wouldn't have had him if my husband and I weren't prepared financially, emotionally, and intellectually. I'm glad it worked out for you but tell me, how many folks has it not worked out for?

I can only speak for myself but I had it all together. I had a college education, a good job, health and life insurance, was married and 25 years old.

i find it kind of amusing that out of my entire post, that was the part that you chose to comment on.

i would LOVE to have family around to help with my little ones...and i think it awesome that she does.

you can't COUNT on assistance from anyone...the only person i can totally be sure of is myself.

(i was ACTUALLY trying to lead in with a bit of support before getting to my real concerns...)

i applaud you lee as i wouldnt abort either and i stated earlier that the guy should have protected himself but her attitude about not protecting herself against disease really rankles me.

Yeah, the man is an idiot. If I were a man having sex with a woman, there is no way in hell I'd trust her on the issue of birth control.

Thanks Jax, and hello Lori!


We all have a story... we all have trials and tribulations, we all have the ideals, of how a child SHOULD be raised.

My children have been raised by women, these past eight years.

The primary carers were women...all of them...including me.

My son's sought and still seek male mentors, and have chosen healthy male mentors...

My daughters sought 'father' through healthy male friends.

My sons sought 'father' the same.

My kids have had many mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, grandparents....and none of them are blood related.

It does take a village to raise a healthy balanced child....
with or without the other biological parent, male or female.

My kids understand we are all one global village, and just because they came from me, does not make them mine.

Jayme will do what Jayme needs to do, it is her process, and none would wish illness on her, in any form... we have suggested, recommended, and cajoled the poor young woman, fifty ways of sun up.

How about support?

How much of that has there been?

Jax, you get it.... you know through your own daughter, sometimes we just have to love them, with arms wide open.

I was pondering this earlier. Would I have listened to older and more experienced women? I don't think I would have listened to my mother, however, I would have listened to my older sisters (they are 20+ years older than I). One thing I did pay attention to was the mistakes I saw folks make.