Topic: God creatd Satan so God = Most Evil
wouldee's photo
Sat 12/01/07 03:27 PM
where you are , I was .

Not a criticism .

An observation.

Nothing conclusory , but.....laugh laugh laugh :wink:

I found a saviour on a cross bridging man ( me ) and God as though a walking bridge exists over a gulf found between two cliffs .

I am eternally grateful for the Bridge .

My passion is affirmed on the Bridge . In it . On it . All of it .

That is clear .


Christ is especially appealing and magnetic to broken and shattered lives that recognize broken and shattered vessels .


An alabaster box of frankincence and myrrh , if you will .


Let us breathe...............flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 12/01/07 06:31 PM
AMEN


Praise God



KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 06:59 PM
Edited by KalamazooGuy87 on Sat 12/01/07 07:01 PM
So ill disagree with you.

maybe this was said but God didnt not create evil. God created satan, satan turned evil.

Evil is the absence of God.

Like Darkness is the absence of light. Darkness doesnt really exists we only use the word to describe what it is like. This also applys to Good vs Evil

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 07:07 PM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Sat 12/01/07 07:07 PM
Thats what I'm saying God created Satan, that makes God the bad guy #1. Because God does not make mistakes and God knows all, therefore God is the Most evil

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 07:12 PM
No satan created evil


Before God there was nothing. God created his angels, no evil.

Satan decides he is better than God and gets cast out. Satan is without god, evil is created. Without God in Satans life he is evil. Satan is the example that, even the most pure christan man can be corrupted.

I noticed a couple of your posts. I have also seen people take a different stand point saying "God" Controls us all and we are all brainwashing, but he gives us freewill doesnt he?

wouldee's photo
Sat 12/01/07 07:15 PM
evil.....hhhmmm....

So, let's see.

He took away your favorite addiction?
He plundered your favorite vice?
He stripped you of your sexuality?
He turned your contradictions into hypocracy?
He made English your first language?
He didn't ask you to be born?
Maybe he made you allergic to drugs and alcohol?


Anybody got any ideas to help Rabbit in his quest for answers?


smokin drinker bigsmile

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:04 PM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Sat 12/01/07 08:05 PM

No satan created evil


Satan created something?

If the garden of eden was perfect why did god put the devil in there?


KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:08 PM
You missing the point and not going deep enough on this topic to understand.

God put no one nowhere, The devil had the option to show up on his own freewill. This was not Gods doing.

God has given all of us a chance to live our life accordingly, and how we live our life determines our results.

Again i will say Evil is not real nor exists, Evil only explains how we feel when God is not in our life.

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:10 PM

You don't think God put all of this here?

then I don't think your a Christian, I'm addressing the Christian God creator of everything, all powerful and all knowing.

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:14 PM
"put" im refering to as the situation we are in as people, or situation the devil is/was in.

Casue God is the creator of everything he is reliable for choices you make? If this was the case wouldnt we all be slaves, making no choices for ourselves?

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:23 PM


You can only be a slave if you exist. The All Powerful God did not have to create Satan. He knew what Satan would do and he created him anyway. So that makes God the creator of evil.(he is the creator of everything you know)

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:29 PM



You can only be a slave if you exist. The All Powerful God did not have to create Satan. He knew what Satan would do and he created him anyway. So that makes God the creator of evil.(he is the creator of everything you know)


You are still not going deep enough, stop people from comming into this earth because of evil? Think about what your saying, if this would be true would any of us be on this earth?

Everyone one of us has commited some type of evil

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:39 PM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Sat 12/01/07 08:40 PM
Satan was not a person. He was Gods Favorite angel .

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:45 PM
God has no favorites however he was favored.... This example though is showing you that the most pure people other than God can fall out..

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:50 PM

He is not a person he is a some kind of being that God created to do evil things to people. So when Hitler sent out his minions, we didn't just say bad minions! we also blame Hitler. Even though Hitler somtimes just sat up high in the clouds watching down on his people. He never did any bad deeds so he must be a loving man.

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:53 PM
ok i see where your comming from, but again your not going deep enough. What drove Hitler? Evil had driven Hitler to committ evil, and through manipulation he did his evil deed.



Hitler had some incredible insights, however his insights were impure, therefore.

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:56 PM

The whole point of my thread is to point out that God cannot be a Loving wonderful God and have created the Greatest Evil in universe. If he did create Satan knowing full well what Satan would do. Then God is evil. He is the source of all evil.

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sat 12/01/07 08:59 PM
That point you make is very vaild, if it was true. im trying to get you to see that If what you said is true God would have never created anything, but slaves in his name. Since then we would not have the option to create such evil

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/01/07 09:01 PM

Tell me which part is not true

1 God Created Satan

2 God Knew What Satan would do

3 God is all powerful

wouldee's photo
Sat 12/01/07 09:04 PM

Satan was not a person. He was Gods Favorite angel .



I've read nothing that suggest his beauty as favoritism, but rather the Son of David as such according to Isaiah and Luke.

But the son of the morning monikered Babylon's king.

Even to suggest that he was a clown and a boaster and a raver and clamourously foolish.

Perhaps his praises found more contempt than reward in his own being, Rabbit.

But never favored more than in his own mind, if that's how you see him.