Topic: God creatd Satan so God = Most Evil
feralcatlady's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:19 PM
Children are Christ's true pure treasures. I do however believe it is up to the parents to plant the seeds and for the Bible and learning the word to water the seeds and the child's freewill to lead them in the right direction...But I also truly believe that every child upon the face of the earth will have a chance to hear his word...

Totage's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:26 PM
God also created love, peace, harmony. God also created the Heavens and the Earth. God also created you, and every other living creature. All that you love and enjoy comes from God.

Yes, God ALLOWS evil, but he did not create evil, he ALLOWED it to be created.

There are things that we humans can not comprehend, or even imagine, but God has can and does.

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:26 PM

...But I also truly believe that every child upon the face of the earth will have a chance to hear his word...


That's not good enough. Like I say, even the word itself is not convincing. Many people have read the Bible and have rejected it as not possibly being the inspired words of the creator of this universe.

And most of those were among the most brilliant minds who ever lived,

It’s simply not a convincing story. How could it be from God and not be convincing?

Well, it can’t!

Therefore it must not be from God.

The conclusion is simple. drinker

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:27 PM

So now your saying hell started out nice and awsome the way God wanted it and the Satan (Gods Creation) ruined it all.

wouldee's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:28 PM

Satan is the Elohim of this world. He can go back and forth to the heavens where he speaks of the wrongs Yahweh's children are doing. As in Job. Death is like sleep. This is said over and over.When the thief on the stake was told today u will be with me in paradice. What did that mean? Yahshua is the 1swt born of the dead. When the comming of messiah comes the dead rise 1st. Do you have any knowledge of time when you sleep? Same is true with death. The next thing the thief will know is messiah's comming back. Like he had just woke up. No knowledge of time. Even in todays science they have found out that at the moment of death and at the time of a deep sleep the brain releases the same chemical. Satan is real and could be anywhere.. Blessings ..Miles



Not anymore, Miles. Christ has the victory.

Christ is the advocate for all mankind and his Golden Rule is the law.

We are in the generation of the age of grace.

No more torment and walls against prayer.

No more elohiym in the ear of the Father. Only the Son.

The Son is the judge, not the elohiym.flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

feralcatlady's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:28 PM
satan's freewill ruined it for satan....just as human's freewill will ruin it for them.

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:28 PM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Thu 11/29/07 09:31 PM

God also created love, peace, harmony. God also created the Heavens and the Earth. God also created you, and every other living creature. All that you love and enjoy comes from God.

Yes, God ALLOWS evil, but he did not create evil, he ALLOWED it to be created.

There are things that we humans can not comprehend, or even imagine, but God has can and does.


This amazes me. So even if I let this crazy logic stand un-molested. Tell me why this loving God Sent this evil doer down to earth. He could have just kept him near himself after all it was Gods mistake in the firstplace not ours. So then he lets this evil doer in the Garden (again a very evil God) and then blames adam for being fooled by the being that fooled god.
God is very evil

nuenjins's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:29 PM

When you have children you try to offer them the best love hoping they will choose wisely, but you can't force them to.


That doesn’t justify sending them to eternal torture if they don’t follow your lead. Especially if you play SILLY GUESSING GAMES with them!

What parent would give birth to a baby and then run away and hide expecting the baby to accidentally choose the right book and make all the right choices on it’s own?

There is no reason whatsoever why any person should believe in the Bible. None period. In fact that are many reasons why a person should reject the book as clearly having been written by men and not having anything at all to do with any supreme being.

If you wrote a book for your kids to follow and left it up to someone else to give it to your kids, and when your kids saw the book they rejected it as not possibly having been from their parent. Could you blame them for that?

Surely not!

If you had to blame anyone you’d have to blame yourself for not having written a more convincing book! And for not BEING THERE when you children NEEDED YOU!!!!

Such a God would be an abusive parent guilty of abandonment and neglect, and playing stupid games.



I understand your' anger, but there are simply aspects which you do not understand. It is not your mind that is closed, I trust you are true to yourself and quite sincere. I still get angry but have seen first hand that the source of all good in the world eminates from the same Spirit which dwells in me. You cannot comprehend this without that Spirit and it is imposssible to define with cheap words.

As I stated before, debate is good for short bursts but it just gets stupid after awhile. really, what's the point. there's plenty of research and truth already done in books that are far more thorough than what we can cover here. I truly believe that if you want truth you will find it. If you don't want truth, you fight it. Hence endless debating.

feralcatlady's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:31 PM
yes its true......God gave you freewill to choose....If you choose to be evil...then that's what you choose and in the end the consequences will be yours.....If you choose to live righteous then you will be rewarded in the kingdom.

God Bless all

Off to sleepy poo..

nighty night rabbit......

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:33 PM
Hell is under the earth period. In that case all who die goe into hell/the earth. Thier will be a lake of fire and i can only see 3 people satan and his partners being thrown in thier. Satan being a created spirit can not be killed he is like the wind. So his torture will be willed. As for those who do not make it into Yahweh's kingdom they will be wiped out destroyed. many of these may be our loved ones yahweh says he will wipe all past things from our mind as far as those people. He says thier will be no more tears and the tree of life is for the healing of the nations...Blessings..Miles

nuenjins's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:37 PM
Edited by nuenjins on Thu 11/29/07 09:39 PM


So now your saying hell started out nice and awsome the way God wanted it and the Satan (Gods Creation) ruined it all.

Yes.

I feel your' mental torment on this one. Been through it and it sucks. the problem is knowing in your head and knowing in your heart are 2 different things. your head was not created to comprehend all this, so yeah it's just about frustrating. contemplating the universe can't fit in your fist size brain, but your heart can understand it when it's been freed. It truly is a step of faith to see Gods goodness and be saved, but it's freedom my friend.:heart:

Jesus, show him.:cry: brokenheart

wouldee's photo
Thu 11/29/07 09:41 PM
Edited by wouldee on Thu 11/29/07 09:43 PM


God also created love, peace, harmony. God also created the Heavens and the Earth. God also created you, and every other living creature. All that you love and enjoy comes from God.

Yes, God ALLOWS evil, but he did not create evil, he ALLOWED it to be created.

There are things that we humans can not comprehend, or even imagine, but God has can and does.


This amazes me. So even if I let this crazy logic stand un-molested. Tell me why this loving God Sent this evil doer down to earth. He could have just kept him near himself after all it was Gods mistake in the firstplace not ours. So then he lets this evil doer in the Garden (again a very evil God) and then blames adam for being fooled by the being that fooled god.
God is very evil



The creator has no intention of destroying you or anyone, Rabbit.

Do you think His desire is not to destroy an angelic being, as well?

Think of Hell as a place where God is not.

Now think of where God is not.

No room for any that don't want to be where he is.

Meaning, there is no where God is not except where He is not.

Doesn't leave any room for those that do choose to be where He is not.

Relax, choose not to be where He is not. Simple.


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Abracadabra's photo
Thu 11/29/07 10:26 PM
Wouldee wrote:
Think of Hell as a place where God is not.


Anyone who believes that they can exist without god is suffering from serious delusions.

To exist without god would require that you be a god in your own right.

neunjin's wrote:
I understand your' anger


If you think I'm angry you don't understand anything.

wouldee's photo
Thu 11/29/07 10:29 PM
yup:wink:

Totage's photo
Thu 11/29/07 10:34 PM
It was not a mistake that Satan turned against God.

There is a deeper purpose.

s1owhand's photo
Fri 11/30/07 01:24 AM
Do Satanists think that the Devil created God?

Jess642's photo
Fri 11/30/07 02:39 AM
I don't know, I just like dressing up. devil :wink:

thedarkenedlotus's photo
Fri 11/30/07 02:59 AM
laugh laugh laugh and we enjoy when you dress uplaugh laugh

yzrabbit1's photo
Fri 11/30/07 07:09 AM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Fri 11/30/07 07:10 AM

It was not a mistake that Satan turned against God.

There is a deeper purpose.



Here Totage finally speaks the truth. God does not make mistakes. He cannot make mistakes he is God. And yet he made the Devil.

feralcatlady's photo
Fri 11/30/07 11:22 AM
The end