Sure! sure! they all say no! not on the first date.. and I agree with them.. then laughingly wish them good luck..lol. because they all say this!!..but then during the meet-and-greet ... their eyes and hands say something else..
They start wetting their lips more often twitching in their chairs.. their eyes.. giving me the up and down look as though they are a lioness and I am a gazelle out on the African plains.. that they are sizing up for their next tasty meal
Their hands starts brushing up against mine inadvertently.. they touch their face and play with their hair more.. by the end of the meet and greet.. they have usually changed their mind on the no sex on the first date policy.. they always say I will make an exception just this one time...yup.. women are worse than men...lol

Lol..yup.. it's all good brother I've been down this road before..lol.. .
It does not take a lot to change a no into a yes.... a very loud resounding..
Yes yes YESSSSS. .ohhh gwad yes..
Lol... all you need to do is touch a woman deep deep in her soul..
Blow ever so lightly on that glowing warm Amber... fan her flames of desire and passion... make her feel as though she is the most beautiful woman God has ever created...
.. keep your eyes on her and only her love her with all of your attention..
And that loud No.. will quickly turn into a very loud..yes yesss ohhhh yesss..lol..wink

Well this IS a dating website with consenting adults...
I am a believer in being up front about what you are looking for from day 1
If the topic of sex doesn't come up on first date, I may wonder
Like casually speaking ,,"yes I like sex but I'd like to get to know you a little bit first before
We go there" ...is all that is needed to be said.
And certainly our perogative to change our minds if persuaded....
Sexual communication is important
I believe some women like to be seen as prim and proper,...but
when No1 is sitting across the table, the charm is just too hard to resist! So the tigress emerges.

haha
very good thread again
this time the question is hard
i have to think.. make some calculations, estimations, some graphical statistics, have to go through my experiences and put them down to a bell curve regarding success and failure. then i will be back here

hell no that ruins the fun of watching him
trip all over himself

trying to do and say all the right things

If he asks me back to his place, I would like to know his plan and reasons for that. So yes, I will let him know in a playful way whether I am up for sex or not so he knows what he can expect from me.
The way he deals with me saying "no" -if that's what I choose to say- will define where we go from there with the budding relationship.
If he's going to be difficult about it, I am not even going inside.

And having sex on a 1st and 2nd date would be moving too fast anyways. The 1st is just a meet and greet, 2nd is getting to know him a little bit better. Bit premature to jump in the sack with him then ...

And I personally wouldn't even mind sex on a meet and greet if the chemistry is there. But it's too soon for men if you want things to evolve into a real relationship.
So it may sound odd, but I have to restrain myself if I want something serious to blossom because of the way men are wired.
Now doesn't that sux?! I'm missing out because of you men!

only 7% of communication is words...93% screams the truth back at

us in each other's body language..... that early in a

relationship its getting to know the person...you don't even know

for sure you like the person or not yet..... if your just

after the sex be careful of the std's and other pitfalls....

LOL If a man has to ask; is so inept about mutual chemistry, that he does not know if I am eventually going to have sex with him; then he is already "out of the running".

I consider sex essential to a serious relationship and don't date someone who is not a candidate for a relationship at some point; at least superficially; so sex is kind of a eventuality even if it is not immediate.

Do I want to be asked when? Ehhh that is kind of a buzz kill; maybe I was considering it but if it gets "plated" as a command performance then not very likely to help his chances.

My personal feeling is if you are doing the in person dating thing you should be prepared for all "outcomes" and if you do not have the required "accessories", or privacy, or grooming on board then you are falling on your own sword and it will probably be fatal to future attempts.

Do I expect a first time encounter to lead to sex? Very doubtful but I don't go out "unprepared". Isn't that basic dating 101?

Is someone reading too many romance novels or practicing to write one? Or are the scammers mistaking you for a girl and sending you their fantasy's?

Sex is a human instinct.. "to reproduce" we are all wired that way..
In the twilight of my life it's more than just Boom Boom's.. I miss the companionship, a bestie the touch of another and everything that goes with have a loving partner.. that being said going on a first date and expecting to mash it up sounds fun and very tempting.. on the other hand the few dates I have been on, I focused on the task at hand... I asked myself is this someone I can spend the rest of whatever years I have left with? Am I sexualy attracted to her? How I feel being with her,(other than a bit nervous)How does she make me feel? Then and only then do I Picture her naked I am honest as I can be in life.. at this point we have discussed some issues about sex.. I respect a woman more If she does not "lay it on me" the first date..(I may want to knock boots) but her not twerking on the dinner table tells me she has some self respect... In the end I feel like I did the right thing.. I was a Gentleman.. and i'm sure it made her feel good also.. It shows character It's not always the woman who has the final say so how the night ends.. Either way after a few e-mails a few hours together.. you know if "There will be a second date" if so why ruin it by bumping uglies? If there is a next time we respect each other more and when the magic does happen it will be that much sweeter... If not she/he can never say they were a jerk all they wanted was to "Do it" to their next date..

nice to see you :)

You saying some aren't wired at all??
That could explain a lot

A very good question

For me no sex
I want more than that.

But it is funny watching then hint lol.
There's boundaries and if they don't respect that then I know they ate only interested in one thing so they can use something else

Why is sex the most important thing? Shouldn't it be the last thing?

This is already clearly a two-thread question in one.

A) There are the Players/Romancers/Lady Killers/etc people, who see every pair up as a challenge or a sports meet, just for fun in the moment;


B) And there are the people who are intent on building a long term serious relationship with the other person, in which sex is an important component, but not the primary goal.

Whenever its a group A person meeting up with a group B person, we end up with threads later where the disappointed one of the pair complains.

My own answer, since I'm a group B person, is that I don't care whether someone spells things out or not. Frankly, I prefer that she does NOT start listing her rules and boundaries out like one of those little signs on the back of a cheap hotel room door. Because that sort of behavior, suggests that I'm a take-a-number guy from her point of view, and not a real person.

Back when my late wife and I had our courtship, she and I had a wonderful romance.
Yet, she and I did not engage in sexual intercourse until after our wedding.

So, no, I do not need to engage in sexual intercourse while dating a woman in order to enjoy being with that woman.

I wish there were more men like you David

I don't accept invitations to be in private company at someone elses home unless we have already talked about sexual expectations and standards

If men were smart..
if they understood women at all..
there is a simple way to guarantee sex with them..

Wait until they jump your bones.

Of course.
If you wait long enough.
They start getting pissy wondering why you do nothing.
They get like a 'Oh yeah? You don't find me attractive
enough to sleep with me? We'll see about that..'
kinda attitude.

If I were a guy, I could get chicks soooo easy..