Topic: Why don't we ban religion?
no1phD's photo
Sun 01/25/15 12:11 AM
religion band.hmm..
.. that is like saying.. you should not buy stock in Ford Motor Company anymore.. just because the founding father Henry Ford.. is no longer with us... i buy stock in Ford Motor Company. because I believe in the product they produce.. I believe in their business practices.... I believe in the way they operate... their business.. which was outlined by Henry Ford himself..... but I do not buy Ford Motor Company.. stock because I believe that Henry Ford.. existed.
... I am buying into the ethics of the company.... their belief system..
. their operating practices..

.. the problem I have with religion and the Bible.... is not their belief system or their operating practices..
it's a fact that they want me to believe the founding father is going to return... and that there was a founding father..

... that's a little like buying into the Ford Motor Company.... on the belief that Henry Ford is going to return some day......not going to happen..lol..
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.. another big difference is.. there was actually a Henry Ford to begin with... this is fact...


... now this founding father of the Bible.. this belief system..
the person who outlined...
this belief system.... do we have any tangible evidence... any true fact that he or she existed....noooo..

.. but this is not to say that the belief system in the Bible is not a good one.... I personally believe it's more about having faith in each other...
.. it does this by... giving you a father figure to believe in... then this father figure tries to instill.... virtue.. morality... a sense of goodwill towards each other.... a sense of faith in one another... but sadly this faith.
that we are supposed to have in one another.. has been misconstrued... twisted.. into less about the teachings of having faith in one another..... and more about the CEOs of this... organisation... trying to sell you on the fact.... that there was once a president of this company... although no one has really ever met him... or even knows what he looks like..lol... so rather than trying to sell me... on what this company produces..
.. and the fact that they. have a great business model.. And a superb operating practice...lol. they would rather insist on. spending their time. and energy and resources.. trying to sell me on the existence of their president.... to me that reeks of deception... it should be more about the product not the inventor...
... if I invented clean free energy..
would you really care that I invented it..noooo.. so why is it whenever religion is tabled.... it always comes down to the inventor of religion...
.. do I need to believe in the Inventor to believe in the product...no.
.. but yet ,they try to sell me on the inventor !.rather than the product..

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.. a good man will always be good.
regardless of religion..
. a bad man will always be bad..
regardless of religion..


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no1phD's photo
Sun 01/25/15 12:14 AM
Hmm.. time for me to put the cork back on the bottle of scotch..lmao..slaphead

davidben1's photo
Sun 01/25/15 12:16 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 01/25/15 12:26 AM
for whatever used a book to prove it self as good, shall be exposed as the most worthless trash, caring most but for 1, it self.

and to think, these declare them self as the most carers of humankind.

no...

these don't even think of caring about others at all, so don't speak in such ways, at all, but rather, declare them self as the most "good" of humankind...

funny how the book worshipers fall into the no caring of others most category...

for it did not even cross their brain the goal of earth was to care most about others to be of love.

hence, what occurs to them in history...

they them self did create, by being fake carers.




no photo
Sun 01/25/15 11:43 AM

Hmm.. time for me to put the cork back on the bottle of scotch..lmao..slaphead


With all moderation...!

If Messy Tim and myself were with You, we'd of lost that cork. :banana:

davidben1's photo
Sun 01/25/15 07:26 PM

To All Christians , please do yourself a favour and not expend energy trying to convince Atheists of GOD's existance , this is the age of delusion ...

The Bible ( Does ) predict the world WILL turn on religion ...

The NWO brought down the towers to start the attack ...

Al-quada , Now Isis , then the next bogey man is to condition the world to NEXT turn on the Greatest Religion of ALL and enemy of SATAN ....CHRISTIANITY ...

We can tell by whats happening in the world , how close we are to Jesus return ...

These Atheists here as in the world , yes are the Haters as pointed out above ....

The bible says 'EVERY KNEE WILL BEND ' mihtymoe WILL bow before jesus and acknowledge him as LORD as will the rest , a few out of love most out of fear ...

Christians imho stepback and leave it , it is time for GOD to sort the wheat from the chaff , let it be and do not waste precious energy
on the lost ...




hate to tell ya fine chap...

mighty moe the gods do embrace...

it is those who follow a book, to establish their self righteousness, for there be only one reason to do so, to gain heaven for self, that the book it self declares shall be cast into hell's oven's.

if one cared about it's own fellow species, it would throw the book in the trash...

then it would be free, of satanic belief's, of it self more knowing and 'god approved', than it's own fellow species...

that which deems it self MORE HOLY, more righteous, than it's siblings the rest of humanity...

that fits the description of a devil, and brood of vipers...

who promote same spices against same species, with their "god beliefs"...

who that cares about ALL of human civilization would swear allegiance to a book that has created 2000 years of killing and wars and pain induced upon others as 'gods will', all such things done to their own same species human siblings..

please...

some know precisely who the lovers of data that prove to them how others are not as good as one self in gods eyes are...

those who deem they are "not lost", but the rest of the world is "lost"?

it is the one who first believe others are "lost" that is the "lost"...

the sheer lunacy of self arrogance unto unsanity, believed and endorsed as good, because these read it in a unholy book of war.

nilessh's photo
Wed 01/28/15 01:54 AM
There is no god, there are humans only..their thoughts and imagination created god and a religion..! Now we can't decide which god I like your birth decides that what is your religion and god..for peace life we can read the life of Lord Buddha ..there are no magic but great thought and philosophy..!!

Kaustuv1's photo
Wed 01/28/15 03:19 AM
Let us walk softly on the Earth, with all living beings, "great and small"...Remembering as we go, that ONE GOD "kind and wise", created ALL... :-)



A Single Selfless Act Of Kindness (Humanity), Is Justifiably Deemed To Be Far More Divine (Noble) Than A 1000 Hands (And Heads Bowed Down) Folded In Prayer! :-)

mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/28/15 08:14 AM

There is no god, there are humans only..their thoughts and imagination created god and a religion..! Now we can't decide which god I like your birth decides that what is your religion and god..for peace life we can read the life of Lord Buddha ..there are no magic but great thought and philosophy..!!


i like Buddha/Buddhists... they have the best philosophy, imo...

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Wed 01/28/15 10:29 PM

There is a theory that dopamine is responsible for religious traits and that those with abnormal levels take their learned beliefs to extreme levels .. Hence all the crazy cults and terrorists who act in the name of religion . No need to ban religion .. Subject everyone to compulsory dopamine testing :-)


Yer dopamine explains why where here slaphead ....

Science , Science , Science , how do you get 'love' from science ?

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Wed 01/28/15 11:40 PM



There is a theory that dopamine is responsible for religious traits and that those with abnormal levels take their learned beliefs to extreme levels .. Hence all the crazy cults and terrorists who act in the name of religion . No need to ban religion .. Subject everyone to compulsory dopamine testing :-)


Yer dopamine explains why where here slaphead ....

Science , Science , Science , how do you get 'love' from science ?
how do you get love from science .. lmao .. love is just an emotion ..and like all emotions is under chemical control .. Hormones regulate functions in your body and without them you would not be alive or have any thought capacity to worry about whether religion exists or not . fact you are just a mass of cells under hormonal control and if you keep banging your head like that you will damage your hypothalamus and mid brain .. clearly you were not paying attention at school


Stage 1: Lust
This is the first stage of love and is driven by the sex hormones testosterone and oestrogen – in both men and women.


Stage 2: Attraction
This is the amazing time when you are truly love-struck and can think of little else. Scientists think that three main neurotransmitters are involved in this stage; adrenaline, dopamine and serotonin.

Adrenaline
The initial stages of falling for someone activates your stress response, increasing your blood levels of adrenalin and cortisol. This has the charming effect that when you unexpectedly bump into your new love, you start to sweat, your heart races and your mouth goes dry.

Dopamine
Helen Fisher asked newly ‘love struck’ couples to have their brains examined and discovered they have high levels of the neurotransmitter dopamine. This chemical stimulates ‘desire and reward’ by triggering an intense rush of pleasure. It has the same effect on the brain as taking cocaine!



That is 'clearly' describes 'lust' , your heart racing and mouth going dry is attraction/infactuation , you still havent described 'love' ....

Not that i feel like getting into 'endless' debates with non-believers .

no thanks .( there's a theory for everything )

This 'is' religion chat after all . flowerforyou

no1phD's photo
Wed 01/28/15 11:45 PM
hypothetical... if we! where to ban Religion remove all signs of religion.. no more passing down of the written word..ie.. all religious documents..
.. where would religion be then?.
.. without the passing down from generation to generation...
of the teachings of religion and the written word of religion...
.. I believe people would still be.. looking out into the universe.
asking themselves.. why am I.! here.. where do we come from..
.. what's out there.... in the universe.... so given that this new generation.. does not have the stories of old..ie.. Jesus ,Noah ,Moses
... the Quran... and the countless other ... religious dogma....
.. and the fact that God ,has not made himself present.. globally.. for a very very long time... where would this new generation get their religious beliefs from...hmm... Are would they just rely ,more heavily upon science..
.... I'm going to go with science..

. but you never know.. a talking burning bush could happen.. I would laugh out loud but I don't want to..
. push my luck just in case I'm wrong..lol

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Conrad_73's photo
Thu 01/29/15 12:44 AM
no worry,it is slowly banning itself!

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Thu 01/29/15 02:31 AM
Edited by Th3Dv8 on Thu 01/29/15 02:36 AM

hypothetical... if we! where to ban Religion remove all signs of religion.. no more passing down of the written word..ie.. all religious documents..
.. where would religion be then?.
.. without the passing down from generation to generation...
of the teachings of religion and the written word of religion...
.. I believe people would still be.. looking out into the universe.
asking themselves.. why am I.! here.. where do we come from..
.. what's out there.... in the universe.... so given that this new generation.. does not have the stories of old..ie.. Jesus ,Noah ,Moses
... the Quran... and the countless other ... religious dogma....
.. and the fact that God ,has not made himself present.. globally.. for a very very long time... where would this new generation get their religious beliefs from...hmm... Are would they just rely ,more heavily upon science..
.... I'm going to go with science..

. but you never know.. a talking burning bush could happen.. I would laugh out loud but I don't want to..
. push my luck just in case I'm wrong..lol

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God hasnt made himself known in a very very long time ? i guess you would know in your 70 years ?

The miracle of a newborn baby is not enough for stubborn minded Atheists ...Could go with the miracle of creation , miracle of our universe , the miracles keep comming , science cannot 'test' miracles so they hypothesise .

Love to be a fly on the wall when you bring up the tooth fairy at the end of your time here .

The Bible predicts damascus will soon be a ruinus heap and the nations will ALL turn on Israel , seems to me GODS time to return is getting near ...Did also say before its predicted the comming one world government will ban religion .

You think he's absent from a being from infinity to infinity 7000 years is but 7 days , your 70 years is not even a blink , yet you say 'where is GOD '

The burning bush btw was only a point of reference becuase IF moses had've seen God he would have died instantly as recorded in the bible .

aghh , frustrated im outa here , cant compete with ignorance , interesting tho it is why the interest in Religion and GOD from Atheists , you,s either are really bored or curious ?

Either way i havent the time to endulge in circular debates .

messi_is_a_tim_1888's photo
Thu 01/29/15 02:59 AM

Oh if you are right and there is a god .. I am sure he will let me sit on his lap .. Just like Santa Claus :-)
What and ask you what you want for xmas, little girl? laugh laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 01/29/15 07:12 AM


hypothetical... if we! where to ban Religion remove all signs of religion.. no more passing down of the written word..ie.. all religious documents..
.. where would religion be then?.
.. without the passing down from generation to generation...
of the teachings of religion and the written word of religion...
.. I believe people would still be.. looking out into the universe.
asking themselves.. why am I.! here.. where do we come from..
.. what's out there.... in the universe.... so given that this new generation.. does not have the stories of old..ie.. Jesus ,Noah ,Moses
... the Quran... and the countless other ... religious dogma....
.. and the fact that God ,has not made himself present.. globally.. for a very very long time... where would this new generation get their religious beliefs from...hmm... Are would they just rely ,more heavily upon science..
.... I'm going to go with science..

. but you never know.. a talking burning bush could happen.. I would laugh out loud but I don't want to..
. push my luck just in case I'm wrong..lol

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God hasnt made himself known in a very very long time ? i guess you would know in your 70 years ?

The miracle of a newborn baby is not enough for stubborn minded Atheists ...Could go with the miracle of creation , miracle of our universe , the miracles keep comming , science cannot 'test' miracles so they hypothesise .

Love to be a fly on the wall when you bring up the tooth fairy at the end of your time here .

The Bible predicts damascus will soon be a ruinus heap and the nations will ALL turn on Israel , seems to me GODS time to return is getting near ...Did also say before its predicted the comming one world government will ban religion .

You think he's absent from a being from infinity to infinity 7000 years is but 7 days , your 70 years is not even a blink , yet you say 'where is GOD '

The burning bush btw was only a point of reference becuase IF moses had've seen God he would have died instantly as recorded in the bible .

aghh , frustrated im outa here , cant compete with ignorance , interesting tho it is why the interest in Religion and GOD from Atheists , you,s either are really bored or curious ?

Either way i havent the time to endulge in circular debates .



it is interesting,,the push back against God and religion,, in a country so devoted to its constitution,,, to the ideas of 'freedom'


but not free to believe in God or congregate peacefully with those who do, and not free to study from a book about God


can we ban the people who would seriously consider banning freedom of thought and religion?

Kaustuv1's photo
Thu 01/29/15 09:29 AM
Let us walk softly on the Earth, with all living beings, "great and small"...Remembering as we go, that ONE GOD "kind and wise", created ALL... :-)

danglpz73's photo
Thu 01/29/15 10:30 AM
You really can't blame religion for all wars just because of few mentally unstable zealots and no war is started because of religion (ok ok the crusades but it wasn't just the Christians it was also the Muslim's) but now wars are started because the lack of resources as or just stupid bs like"he threatened to kill my father" but they use religion because to justify the bs much like Muslim's the politicians and terrorists know once the use faith as recruitment tool or way to justify their personal bs that people will follow be cause like P.T.Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute

davidben1's photo
Thu 01/29/15 01:13 PM
intolerance, insensitivity to others, mocking, jeering, self adulation, self grandiose, what self like be the bar of what others' should like, how self talk all others should talk as, create all the wars...

and all those who validate such traits within them self, will find any data spoken or written outside them self, to bolster their own belief's such these trait's within them self are good one's, and to self validate them...

first the ego war rage, than the physical wars are created.

messi_is_a_tim_1888's photo
Thu 01/29/15 01:21 PM
If they did ban religion, what would take it's place though? Some people out there have nothing fulfilling in their lives, or are gullible enough, to want to follow, someone who promises them the World, but who delivers nothing. Personally myself, it wouldn't bother me, but it would bother some people though?

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Thu 01/29/15 01:23 PM
As a means to what end would we keep living, if this life is all we live for?

If this life is all You live for, are You not dead even though You are living?

Luke 12: 15-21
James 4: 1-3
Luke 9: 57-60