Topic: Why don't we ban religion?
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Mon 01/19/15 04:20 PM

:laughing: :laughing: the very good looking guy is looking for a war now..lol..I tink...


Yes, I'm still looking for a pillow-fight.

Oh, thanks for the compliment, m3k4y!

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Mon 01/19/15 04:25 PM











Frankly, I'd be more concerned about people who only do good IN ORDER to get a reward...


I think your possibly talking about politicians, who have a business incentive in their personal agenda, while being a politician. laugh

Not all politicians are looking for rewards.

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Mon 01/19/15 04:26 PM
"Why don't we ban religion?"

Start with a ban on the worship of sex. That is the biggest religion on this website.

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Mon 01/19/15 04:34 PM






Frankly, I'd be more concerned about people who only do good IN ORDER to get a reward...


I think your possibly talking about politicians, who have a business incentive in their personal agenda, while being a politician. laugh

Not all politicians are looking for rewards.


Religious fanatics... politicians...

One redeeming quality (?) of the politicians is that they don't try to convince other people to be as disingenuous as they are...

Politicians just openly suck at life... they know how they rank on the social scale.

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Mon 01/19/15 04:52 PM



yes lets ban it i heard or read somewhere religion is poison or something along those lines if you think about it most wars are about religion and we have all been brought up on different variations of the same stories and when you think of it a bit more how corrupt do you think the world was back in those days its still veritably corrupt at the moment :smile:


Wars are never about religion. They are about power and control.


Wars are USUALLY about religions... who FIGHT for power and control.


I see the problem with religion is their all right in certain thoughts, but also wrong in other thoughts.People exsited long before 2000 BC. Scientist have discover bones to prove this. Religion was a cult belief which grew.


Before Mosses, war was about wealth and slavery? Mosses brought religion into the picture as a means of a power that will save the Jewish people. As Asia and Europe were populated it was caused by armies searching for slaves pushing people out of their homes and into new regions. Some would be killed, other captured for slaves and a few would escape.


Not until around 1000 century did religion begin to be seen in upper Europe again, which was developed to give people hope in the starvation and war they were experiencing. People who were religious leaders were able to read and manipulated kings, dukes, ect.; in believing they needed to be leaded by religious approaches. Example: they thought someone was insane they would take a hammer put a hole in the person's skull to release the demon.

I do not agree with any religious belief completely, since they all want war to prove their belief is correct. War implies hate which their religious belief is to be against. etc. etc. etc.

No religious belief is perfect, by any means and I believe people need to see the good in each belief system. Learn from it and find equality between people and genders, regardless of what country they live in.

I see a lot of people from, where this site is based that show prejudice against many other people around the world, which is not a good way to find relationships, regardless if it is a friend or personal. They even show the prejudice with in there own people.

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Mon 01/19/15 04:56 PM

"Why don't we ban religion?"

Start with a ban on the worship of sex. That is the biggest religion on this website.

A religious man goes to church, and thinks about sex.
A spiritual man has sex, and says "Thank you God".

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Mon 01/19/15 04:58 PM

"Why don't we ban religion?"

Start with a ban on the worship of sex. That is the biggest religion on this website.


This confuses me.

Have you ever HAD sex? It's WONDERFUL.

Religion? Meh...

:-)

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Mon 01/19/15 05:00 PM


"Why don't we ban religion?"

Start with a ban on the worship of sex. That is the biggest religion on this website.

A religious man goes to church, and thinks about sex.
A spiritual man has sex, and says "Thank you God".


Is that why the author of the OP never thanks God? :tongue:

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Mon 01/19/15 05:44 PM
Damn it, Dodo_David!

Are You castrated?

Don't You know a pick-up line when You see one?


Dodo_David-----> what smitten <----- and avamari2.

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Mon 01/19/15 06:24 PM


"Why don't we ban religion?"

Start with a ban on the worship of sex. That is the biggest religion on this website.


This confuses me.

Have you ever HAD sex? It's WONDERFUL.

Religion? Meh...

:-)


laugh laugh you know how those religious aliens are...

avamari2's photo
Mon 01/19/15 06:31 PM



"Why don't we ban religion?"

Start with a ban on the worship of sex. That is the biggest religion on this website.


This confuses me.

Have you ever HAD sex? It's WONDERFUL.

Religion? Meh...

:-)


laugh laugh you know how those religious aliens are...


OUT OF THIS WORLD!! (budum-cha!)

mightymoe's photo
Mon 01/19/15 06:36 PM




"Why don't we ban religion?"

Start with a ban on the worship of sex. That is the biggest religion on this website.


This confuses me.

Have you ever HAD sex? It's WONDERFUL.

Religion? Meh...

:-)


laugh laugh you know how those religious aliens are...


OUT OF THIS WORLD!! (budum-cha!)


cute and funny! flowerforyou laugh laugh

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Mon 01/19/15 07:00 PM



David Cameron and Barack Obama are both wimps. They haven't got the balls to come out and say that Islam is no good, instead they say it's the people that believe in it with all their hearts that are no good. Because let's face it, peaceful muslims don't really believe in Islam, they're like our protestants. A couple more generations down the line and they'll be atheists.


Hah yes.. lets ban religion.do away with it..what a great thought.


fanatics aside, what do you think keeps the world in order.. meaning what do you really think keeps people from going out and doing whatever the hell they feel like doing. what stops them from committing every conceivable crime, act or sin ( of any religion). Law?.. police.. no.. they would be the first things to go.

It is that thought that people must atone for wrongs they have done to their higher power.. whatever that may be. That is what keep order in this world.

So lets take that all away and see what happens. The wild west???.. the wild west would be a cub scout meeting compared to what would happen. total mayhem. worldwide chaos, totally out of control


No. Stop it. Based on that perspective, all the Atheists and Agnostics are sociopathic murderers.

People are capable of being good without needing a reward for good deeds.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about people who only do good IN ORDER to get a reward...


Really? If it were proven tomorrow that there is in fact no God(s) or higher power of any sort to eventually answer to.. an this had to be accepted by all.. that in fact when you die.. you do just that.. and there is no after life.. or second calling... no reckoning,basically that's it.. your dust. you would see a total change in all of civilization... and it would not be pretty.

I'm Catholic.. if we were to chuck the 10 commandments, which by this time would have been proven to be BS. and all other religions were chucking their versions, as religion no longer exist. what effect would that have on civilization. Do you really think people would continue to follow rules that no longer carry any moral weight. That they would continue to lead a honest "sin" free life without the faith they were lead to believe they had?. Their faith would now be in who?.. in what?...mankind?

We are raised to be "God fearing people".. take God (or any God like entity) out of the equation.. and who do you then fear. The only other thing to fear would be mankind

Current atheists ( who believe in no Gods.. no higher power of any type) comply a very small percentage of the overall population. A population driven by religions and who's core laws are derived from religious believes

throw that all out the window and see what happens


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Mon 01/19/15 07:03 PM




David Cameron and Barack Obama are both wimps. They haven't got the balls to come out and say that Islam is no good, instead they say it's the people that believe in it with all their hearts that are no good. Because let's face it, peaceful muslims don't really believe in Islam, they're like our protestants. A couple more generations down the line and they'll be atheists.


Hah yes.. lets ban religion.do away with it..what a great thought.


fanatics aside, what do you think keeps the world in order.. meaning what do you really think keeps people from going out and doing whatever the hell they feel like doing. what stops them from committing every conceivable crime, act or sin ( of any religion). Law?.. police.. no.. they would be the first things to go.

It is that thought that people must atone for wrongs they have done to their higher power.. whatever that may be. That is what keep order in this world.

So lets take that all away and see what happens. The wild west???.. the wild west would be a cub scout meeting compared to what would happen. total mayhem. worldwide chaos, totally out of control


No. Stop it. Based on that perspective, all the Atheists and Agnostics are sociopathic murderers.

People are capable of being good without needing a reward for good deeds.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about people who only do good IN ORDER to get a reward...


Really? If it were proven tomorrow that there is in fact no God(s) or higher power of any sort to eventually answer to.. an this had to be accepted by all.. that in fact when you die.. you do just that.. and there is no after life.. or second calling... no reckoning,basically that's it.. your dust. you would see a total change in all of civilization... and it would not be pretty.

I'm Catholic.. if we were to chuck the 10 commandments, which by this time would have been proven to be BS. and all other religions were chucking their versions, as religion no longer exist. what effect would that have on civilization. Do you really think people would continue to follow rules that no longer carry any moral weight. That they would continue to lead a honest "sin" free life without the faith they were lead to believe they had?. Their faith would now be in who?.. in what?...mankind?

We are raised to be "God fearing people".. take God (or any God like entity) out of the equation.. and who do you then fear. The only other thing to fear would be mankind

Current atheists ( who believe in no Gods.. no higher power of any type) comply a very small percentage of the overall population. A population driven by religions and who's core laws are derived from religious believes

throw that all out the window and see what happens




the religious people like you would act nuts, thats all... life would go on, people either accept it or don't...

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Mon 01/19/15 07:10 PM




David Cameron and Barack Obama are both wimps. They haven't got the balls to come out and say that Islam is no good, instead they say it's the people that believe in it with all their hearts that are no good. Because let's face it, peaceful muslims don't really believe in Islam, they're like our protestants. A couple more generations down the line and they'll be atheists.


Hah yes.. lets ban religion.do away with it..what a great thought.


fanatics aside, what do you think keeps the world in order.. meaning what do you really think keeps people from going out and doing whatever the hell they feel like doing. what stops them from committing every conceivable crime, act or sin ( of any religion). Law?.. police.. no.. they would be the first things to go.

It is that thought that people must atone for wrongs they have done to their higher power.. whatever that may be. That is what keep order in this world.

So lets take that all away and see what happens. The wild west???.. the wild west would be a cub scout meeting compared to what would happen. total mayhem. worldwide chaos, totally out of control


No. Stop it. Based on that perspective, all the Atheists and Agnostics are sociopathic murderers.

People are capable of being good without needing a reward for good deeds.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about people who only do good IN ORDER to get a reward...


Really? If it were proven tomorrow that there is in fact no God(s) or higher power of any sort to eventually answer to.. an this had to be accepted by all.. that in fact when you die.. you do just that.. and there is no after life.. or second calling... no reckoning,basically that's it.. your dust. you would see a total change in all of civilization... and it would not be pretty.

I'm Catholic.. if we were to chuck the 10 commandments, which by this time would have been proven to be BS. and all other religions were chucking their versions, as religion no longer exist. what effect would that have on civilization. Do you really think people would continue to follow rules that no longer carry any moral weight. That they would continue to lead a honest "sin" free life without the faith they were lead to believe they had?. Their faith would now be in who?.. in what?...mankind?

We are raised to be "God fearing people".. take God (or any God like entity) out of the equation.. and who do you then fear. The only other thing to fear would be mankind

Current atheists ( who believe in no Gods.. no higher power of any type) comply a very small percentage of the overall population. A population driven by religions and who's core laws are derived from religious believes

throw that all out the window and see what happens




Morals disappear without religion? Really?

So... WTF have i been wasting my time being nice and honest and donating to people.

I need to care less.... OR believe in God... but since I can't 'force' myself to believe in something (you either do or you don't).

Your argument is horrible. Look up the logical fallacies. Look at 'slippery slope.'

Get back to me when you can have a logical, critical discussion.

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Mon 01/19/15 07:17 PM
morals wouldn't disappear

but the world would change, not for the better

for all the 'war' that people like to refer to their are many more charitable and gracious and beautiful actions inspired by 'religious' lessons as well


whether we have religion or not, we will have people who do terrible things,, remove religion(Which is kind of impossible) and they will just find something else to scapegoat for their interests and choices that harm others,,,

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Mon 01/19/15 07:17 PM




David Cameron and Barack Obama are both wimps. They haven't got the balls to come out and say that Islam is no good, instead they say it's the people that believe in it with all their hearts that are no good. Because let's face it, peaceful muslims don't really believe in Islam, they're like our protestants. A couple more generations down the line and they'll be atheists.


Hah yes.. lets ban religion.do away with it..what a great thought.


fanatics aside, what do you think keeps the world in order.. meaning what do you really think keeps people from going out and doing whatever the hell they feel like doing. what stops them from committing every conceivable crime, act or sin ( of any religion). Law?.. police.. no.. they would be the first things to go.

It is that thought that people must atone for wrongs they have done to their higher power.. whatever that may be. That is what keep order in this world.

So lets take that all away and see what happens. The wild west???.. the wild west would be a cub scout meeting compared to what would happen. total mayhem. worldwide chaos, totally out of control


No. Stop it. Based on that perspective, all the Atheists and Agnostics are sociopathic murderers.

People are capable of being good without needing a reward for good deeds.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about people who only do good IN ORDER to get a reward...


Really? If it were proven tomorrow that there is in fact no God(s) or higher power of any sort to eventually answer to.. an this had to be accepted by all.. that in fact when you die.. you do just that.. and there is no after life.. or second calling... no reckoning,basically that's it.. your dust. you would see a total change in all of civilization... and it would not be pretty.

I'm Catholic.. if we were to chuck the 10 commandments, which by this time would have been proven to be BS. and all other religions were chucking their versions, as religion no longer exist. what effect would that have on civilization. Do you really think people would continue to follow rules that no longer carry any moral weight. That they would continue to lead a honest "sin" free life without the faith they were lead to believe they had?. Their faith would now be in who?.. in what?...mankind?

We are raised to be "God fearing people".. take God (or any God like entity) out of the equation.. and who do you then fear. The only other thing to fear would be mankind

Current atheists ( who believe in no Gods.. no higher power of any type) comply a very small percentage of the overall population. A population driven by religions and who's core laws are derived from religious believes

throw that all out the window and see what happens




Also, curious: would you teach your children to be good so that they get a reward, or because it's the right thing to do.

I teach dogs to be good and they get a treat. I would hope that as humans, we're slightly more evolved than that.

But thanks for degrading the value of a good dead. Apparently intrinsic motivation is not a concept that you're familiar with.

Too bad, cause it's the BEST!

CHEERS!!

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Mon 01/19/15 07:19 PM

morals wouldn't disappear

but the world would change, not for the better

for all the 'war' that people like to refer to their are many more charitable and gracious and beautiful actions inspired by 'religious' lessons as well


whether we have religion or not, we will have people who do terrible things,, remove religion(Which is kind of impossible) and they will just find something else to scapegoat for their interests and choices that harm others,,,


why are religious people harming anyone? don't they go to hell for that? (cept muslims, they get a bunch of virgins in a special room in heaven)

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Mon 01/19/15 07:23 PM

morals wouldn't disappear

but the world would change, not for the better

for all the 'war' that people like to refer to their are many more charitable and gracious and beautiful actions inspired by 'religious' lessons as well


whether we have religion or not, we will have people who do terrible things,, remove religion(Which is kind of impossible) and they will just find something else to scapegoat for their interests and choices that harm others,,,


I'm not sure it would be for the worse though. No one can say for sure. It is impossible to know that.

I wish that we could start a dilineation (sp?) between 'faith' and 'religion.' Faith is plenty good and healthy. For those honest with it, great for them. Awesome. Keep on keeping on...

Religion, though? Love the massively elaborate churches you all buy with those tax-free donations... so, all the poor are fed, then, right? No?

Oh... oops?

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Mon 01/19/15 07:33 PM


morals wouldn't disappear

but the world would change, not for the better

for all the 'war' that people like to refer to their are many more charitable and gracious and beautiful actions inspired by 'religious' lessons as well


whether we have religion or not, we will have people who do terrible things,, remove religion(Which is kind of impossible) and they will just find something else to scapegoat for their interests and choices that harm others,,,


why are religious people harming anyone? don't they go to hell for that? (cept muslims, they get a bunch of virgins in a special room in heaven)



because they were born HUMAN, and humans harm humans

I don't think much about Hell, those answers would be best found in a Bible

if we are attempting to live a life Pleasing to God, we will not harm others intentionally