Topic: Why don't we ban religion?
dcastelmissy's photo
Sat 01/24/15 06:36 PM

For some of the self declared holy did persecute who they deemed unholy for many a millennium, from pulpits and podiums and synagogues, and could not sea how their belief's did oppress those deemed unholy...

and such did cause a flow of capacity to cease such self superior authorities posed as god overlords over other equal humans, which did create the great lava flows of heat of cleansing back then, in the human recorded year called 2015.




All people did not do so! Some did! To judge all by what some did is the epitome of judgement! My God loves all! Equally! Justly! Only He knows the heart! You do not!

davidben1's photo
Sat 01/24/15 06:39 PM


For some of the self declared holy did persecute who they deemed unholy for many a millennium, from pulpits and podiums and synagogues, and could not sea how their belief's did oppress those deemed unholy...

and such did cause a flow of capacity to cease such self superior authorities posed as god overlords over other equal humans, which did create the great lava flows of heat of cleansing back then, in the human recorded year called 2015.




All people did not do so! Some did! To judge all by what some did is the epitome of judgement! My God loves all! Equally! Justly! Only He knows the heart! You do not!


that is what you suppose.

dcastelmissy's photo
Sat 01/24/15 06:49 PM
Edited by dcastelmissy on Sat 01/24/15 06:52 PM



For some of the self declared holy did persecute who they deemed unholy for many a millennium, from pulpits and podiums and synagogues, and could not sea how their belief's did oppress those deemed unholy...

and such did cause a flow of capacity to cease such self superior authorities posed as god overlords over other equal humans, which did create the great lava flows of heat of cleansing back then, in the human recorded year called 2015.




All people did not do so! Some did! To judge all by what some did is the epitome of judgement! My God loves all! Equally! Justly! Only He knows the heart! You do not!


that is what you suppose.


No it is what I know! You can ban religion, but you cannot ban belief in a loving, forgiving, compassionate God. I do not ascribe to any religion, but my love and belief in a loving, merciful, and compassionate God will never die! He loves all equally! Nothing you can say, or attempt to say will ever change that! I actually believe much as you do, but you are so upset by the word religion you cannot see goodness and mercy and love for others being revealed to you! Almost as if declaring that you are the only one who has seen the "light". It is not only available to you DB. It is available to all who wish to truly love their fellow man from their heart!

davidben1's photo
Sat 01/24/15 06:57 PM

Jesus taught that we should love Gos with all our hearts and love our neighbors as ourselves! Some of Cgristianity may not practice this but some of us still do! Do not judge us on what most are not willing to do! I stand not in judgement of others, it is not my right! However, neither is it yours to judge others!


for those who swear allegiance unto jesus, did not hear his words, nor practice them, and are not of the same source jesus heard from.

for all those who swear allegiance unto jesus, shall be told just as was writ, whom declare them self should be saved from all bad, FOR THEM SELF, in jesus name...

as was writ in the book...

shall be told...

when they declare their own self righteousness and them self as of god, because they swore allegiance to a book and beliefs, trying to use the name and life of another, to cowardly save them self...

depart from me, i knew and know you not.

woe to those who cannot sea humans being given power to judge the many be powers given only by the true divine powers...

for who...

for none...

shall sea the face of god except those believing it look into the face of another but a mere mortal.

woe to those who say they knew god, but only knew what made them self feel better about them self.





davidben1's photo
Sat 01/24/15 06:57 PM

Jesus taught that we should love Gos with all our hearts and love our neighbors as ourselves! Some of Cgristianity may not practice this but some of us still do! Do not judge us on what most are not willing to do! I stand not in judgement of others, it is not my right! However, neither is it yours to judge others!


for those who swear allegiance unto jesus, did not hear his words, nor practice them, and are not of the same source jesus heard from.

for all those who swear allegiance unto jesus, shall be told just as was writ, whom declare them self should be saved from all bad, FOR THEM SELF, in jesus name...

as was writ in the book...

shall be told...

when they declare their own self righteousness and them self as of god, because they swore allegiance to a book and beliefs, trying to use the name and life of another, to cowardly save them self...

depart from me, i knew and know you not.

woe to those who cannot sea humans being given power to judge the many be powers given only by the true divine powers...

for who...

for none...

shall sea the face of god except those believing it look into the face of another but a mere mortal.

woe to those who say they knew god, but only knew what made them self feel better about them self.





dcastelmissy's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:03 PM
I'm not talking about concern about "self"!! Or did you miss that? It's about loving others as you would love yourself! It's about treating everyone else as equals and loving them!! Is it that difficult for you to understand?

davidben1's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:06 PM

I'm not talking about concern about "self"!! Or did you miss that? It's about loving others as you would love yourself! It's about treating everyone else as equals and loving them!! Is it that difficult for you to understand?



for one who declares her self to love and not judge others, your judgement and unlove against me is quite obvious.

poor poor sad sadder saddest, don't let it grab ya...

sea deep.


mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:12 PM


i don't think anyone is saying not to believe in god, i think it's a ban of organized religion...


why do you need a church to pray to god?

why do you need to give your hard earned money to make a preacher happy?

when they build a 50-100 million dollar church, why isn't that money going to the charities and helping others?

do they need that 100 million dollar church?

why are most preachers driving 50,000 dollar cars?

will god love you any less if you don't go to church?

why don't churches pay taxes?

is a preacher any more qualified to tell someone what god wants then me?

what makes that preacher more qualified?

why does god need thanks?

just some questions about organized religion that i feel people should ask...

sorry if anyone thinks i'm attacking their religion, but i think the same about all religions, they are good for the people that want them...






its not about 'need'

after all why do people 'need' to get married
why do they 'need' to have cable

why do they 'need' to have cell phones

why do they 'need' to have internet




these things are matters of HOW people WANT to live, and they should not be 'banned' from having options,,,,


that answers nothing, your just sidestepping... why is it when you ask direct questions to religious people, you never get a straight answer?




dcastelmissy's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:14 PM
Because I try to reason with you, you see that as not showing love toward you or hate of some sort? Perhaps you need to "see" a little clearer? Most on this thread I'm sure would not see me as an antagonist in this thread but as someone who is trying to reason logically with someone of opposing thought. However, if this is the way you choose to view it, I must rely on love to accept your views and regret no peace and loving understanding could be reached at this moment in time! Peace to you and love DB!

theseacoast's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:16 PM
Edited by theseacoast on Sat 01/24/15 07:21 PM

i don't think anyone is saying not to believe in god, i think it's a ban of organized religion...


why do you need a church to pray to god?

why do you need to give your hard earned money to make a preacher happy?

when they build a 50-100 million dollar church, why isn't that money going to the charities and helping others?

do they need that 100 million dollar church?

why are most preachers driving 50,000 dollar cars?

will god love you any less if you don't go to church?

why don't churches pay taxes?

is a preacher any more qualified to tell someone what god wants then me?

what makes that preacher more qualified?

why does god need thanks?

just some questions about organized religion that i feel people should ask...

sorry if anyone thinks i'm attacking their religion, but i think the same about all religions, they are good for the people that want them...






Hi Mightymoe flowerforyou

why do I need a church? well, it�s a place of gathering of people who belive in same I do or at least they claim to. Place where I can come, pray, intend mass if I want to. I can�t do it somewhere else if it�s not some special occasion. It´s place of sharing the same values with other people.

Why do you have to give your money to make preacher happy? Well, it�s� my choice to whom to give my money and for what. There is always reason for any collection not making preacher happy. If I want I can give my money to some shelter for animals or I can give my money for some charity in church. Besides I don´t have to do it if I don�t want to. It�s only my choice.

Why shouldn�t we have nice church? Besides, these churches are not only religional places but so many churches are gems of architecture. It�s not only about religion but they are also part of national wealth, cultural wealth.

why are most preachers driving 50000 USD car? I don�t know how it is on your side but for instance one priest has sometimes two or three parishes where he serves people. And to get to all those places, not mentioning when they visit ill people or others who need them, they need a car that is not just a piece of iron. They need a good car for their service.

will God love me less if I don�t go to church? No, he won�t, he will love me just the same. And as a matter of fact I haven�t been in a church for some time. It�s more because of us, people, that churches are built I think, we need to gather and share. What if I would be on deserted island? God would love me no matter where I am, not only in the church.

yes, priest is more qualified to explain things I�m not sure of, to broaden my views - and that also is very important. Bible has so many layers (is that the right expression?)and can be interpreted in so many ways. It�s not only religious but also historical book, not every sentence, not every vers can be interpreted literally. That�s why priests have university education, just as doctors or lawyers. It�s not so simple. I know, because I intended the theological university also long time ago. Priests do have wide knowlidges and not only about Bible, but other humanitarian science, as psychology etc.

Why does God need thanks? Well as a matter of fact, He doesn�t. But it�s about good behaviour too :wink: If you do something for me and I just take it and go away, would it be nice? And also, thanksgiving teaches us not to take things for granted - very good for our social life

And I really don�t know why churches don�t pay taxes I never thought about it. Maybe somebody else would know :smile:

I tried to explain some things as much as I am capable of it. If something else pops in my mind, I�ll add flowerforyou


mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:22 PM


i don't think anyone is saying not to believe in god, i think it's a ban of organized religion...


why do you need a church to pray to god?

why do you need to give your hard earned money to make a preacher happy?

when they build a 50-100 million dollar church, why isn't that money going to the charities and helping others?

do they need that 100 million dollar church?

why are most preachers driving 50,000 dollar cars?

will god love you any less if you don't go to church?

why don't churches pay taxes?

is a preacher any more qualified to tell someone what god wants then me?

what makes that preacher more qualified?

why does god need thanks?

just some questions about organized religion that i feel people should ask...

sorry if anyone thinks i'm attacking their religion, but i think the same about all religions, they are good for the people that want them...






Hi Mightymoe flowerforyou

why do I need a church? well, it´s place of gathering of people who belive in same I do or at least they claim to. Place where I can come, pray, intend mass if I want to. I can´t do it somewhere else if it´s not some special occasion. It´s place of sharing the same values with other people.

Why do you have to give your money to make preacher happy? Well, itś my choice to whom to give my money and for what. There is always reason for any collection not making preacher happy. If I want I can give my money to some shelter for animals or I can give my money for some charity in church. Besides I don´t have to do it if I don´t want to. It´s only my choice.

Why shouldn´t we have nice church? Besides, these churches are not only religional places but so many churches are gems of architecture. It´s not only about religion but they are also part of national wealth, cultural wealth.

why are most preachers driving 50000 USD car? I don´t know how it is on your side but for instance one priest has sometimes two or three parishes where he serves people. And to get to all those places, not mentioning when they visit ill people or others who need them, they need a car that is not just a piece of iron. They need a good car for their service.

will God love me less if I don´t go to church? No, he won´t, he will love me just the same. And as a matter of fact I haven´t been in a church for some time. It´s more because of us, people, that churches are built I think, we need to gather and share. What if I would be on deserted island? God would love me no matter where I am, not only in the church.

yes, priest is more qualified to explain things I´m not sure of, to broaden my views - and that also is very important. Bible has so many layers (is that the right expression?)and can be interpreted in so many ways. It´s not only religious but also historical book, not every sentence, not every vers can be interpreted literally. That´s why priests have university education, just as doctors or lawyers. It´s not so simple. I know, because I intended the theological university also long time ago. Priests do have wide knowlidges and not only about Bible, but other humanitarian science, as psychology etc.

Why does God need thanks? Well as a matter of fact, He doesn´t. But it´s about good behaviour too :wink: If you do something for me and I just take it and go away, would it be nice? And also, thanksgiving teaches us not to take things for granted - very good for our social life

And I really don´t know why churches don´t pay taxes I never thought about it. Maybe somebody else would know :smile:




thank you, nice answers... so, having a nice, expensive church is more important than using the money to help others? is that what god wants? god wants the preacher to use your money for a nice car? (or 5 of them)... but i guess the preachers and higher-ups know better, because they are closer to god than anyone else...

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:27 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/19/best-paid-pastors_n_1214043.html

SpicyExcel's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:32 PM
Silly question. What does DB, stand for?

Amelinng's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:35 PM

Silly question. What does DB, stand for?


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
DB ........ DavidBen!
SE ........ Spicy Excel!

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:35 PM

Silly question. What does DB, stand for?


in what context? they are my initials, could be dave and busters...what

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:36 PM


Silly question. What does DB, stand for?


in what context? they are my initials, could be dave and busters...what


or could be davidben...spock

theseacoast's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:37 PM



i don't think anyone is saying not to believe in god, i think it's a ban of organized religion...


why do you need a church to pray to god?

why do you need to give your hard earned money to make a preacher happy?

when they build a 50-100 million dollar church, why isn't that money going to the charities and helping others?

do they need that 100 million dollar church?

why are most preachers driving 50,000 dollar cars?

will god love you any less if you don't go to church?

why don't churches pay taxes?

is a preacher any more qualified to tell someone what god wants then me?

what makes that preacher more qualified?

why does god need thanks?

just some questions about organized religion that i feel people should ask...

sorry if anyone thinks i'm attacking their religion, but i think the same about all religions, they are good for the people that want them...






Hi Mightymoe flowerforyou

why do I need a church? well, it´s place of gathering of people who belive in same I do or at least they claim to. Place where I can come, pray, intend mass if I want to. I can´t do it somewhere else if it´s not some special occasion. It´s place of sharing the same values with other people.

Why do you have to give your money to make preacher happy? Well, itś my choice to whom to give my money and for what. There is always reason for any collection not making preacher happy. If I want I can give my money to some shelter for animals or I can give my money for some charity in church. Besides I don´t have to do it if I don´t want to. It´s only my choice.

Why shouldn´t we have nice church? Besides, these churches are not only religional places but so many churches are gems of architecture. It´s not only about religion but they are also part of national wealth, cultural wealth.

why are most preachers driving 50000 USD car? I don´t know how it is on your side but for instance one priest has sometimes two or three parishes where he serves people. And to get to all those places, not mentioning when they visit ill people or others who need them, they need a car that is not just a piece of iron. They need a good car for their service.

will God love me less if I don´t go to church? No, he won´t, he will love me just the same. And as a matter of fact I haven´t been in a church for some time. It´s more because of us, people, that churches are built I think, we need to gather and share. What if I would be on deserted island? God would love me no matter where I am, not only in the church.

yes, priest is more qualified to explain things I´m not sure of, to broaden my views - and that also is very important. Bible has so many layers (is that the right expression?)and can be interpreted in so many ways. It´s not only religious but also historical book, not every sentence, not every vers can be interpreted literally. That´s why priests have university education, just as doctors or lawyers. It´s not so simple. I know, because I intended the theological university also long time ago. Priests do have wide knowlidges and not only about Bible, but other humanitarian science, as psychology etc.

Why does God need thanks? Well as a matter of fact, He doesn´t. But it´s about good behaviour too :wink: If you do something for me and I just take it and go away, would it be nice? And also, thanksgiving teaches us not to take things for granted - very good for our social life

And I really don´t know why churches don´t pay taxes I never thought about it. Maybe somebody else would know :smile:




thank you, nice answers... so, having a nice, expensive church is more important than using the money to help others? is that what god wants? god wants the preacher to use your money for a nice car? (or 5 of them)... but i guess the preachers and higher-ups know better, because they are closer to god than anyone else...



No, it�s not more important than using the money to help others. I work in church organisation which helpes the poorest children from Afrika, India and Belarus to get education. First school for poor in history was established by church. And charity and other things. You point only on one thing you dislike but there are so much more that are good and useful and started by people who were true belivers (not fanatics in that ugly way we know).
And as I said before priest does need a good car. I know some priests and I asked them about that. It�s logical.
But also as I said in my first post, in every group can be those he misuse the point of the group - maybe those priests with five cars do that. But don�t see only them but also those who do the best they can to remain faithul and to live what they chose. And there are plenty of those.

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Sat 01/24/15 07:39 PM
Edited by Th3Dv8 on Sat 01/24/15 07:47 PM
To All Christians , please do yourself a favour and not expend energy trying to convince Atheists of GOD's existance , this is the age of delusion ...

The Bible ( Does ) predict the world WILL turn on religion ...

The NWO brought down the towers to start the attack ...

Al-quada , Now Isis , then the next bogey man is to condition the world to NEXT turn on the Greatest Religion of ALL and enemy of SATAN ....CHRISTIANITY ...

We can tell by whats happening in the world , how close we are to Jesus return ...

These Atheists here as in the world , yes are the Haters as pointed out above ....

The bible says 'EVERY KNEE WILL BEND ' mihtymoe WILL bow before jesus and acknowledge him as LORD as will the rest , a few out of love most out of fear ...

Christians imho stepback and leave it , it is time for GOD to sort the wheat from the chaff , let it be and do not waste precious energy
on the lost ...


SpicyExcel's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:45 PM
Yes acronyms can be difficult to deal with at times. So many possibilities when not sure.

SpicyExcel's photo
Sat 01/24/15 07:46 PM

Yes acronyms can be difficult to deal with at times. So many possibilities when not sure.


Is this a religious problem for anyone?