Topic: Why are women so dominant after they upgrade their relations
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Wed 02/20/13 06:18 PM


I believe it has something to do with the personalities of the duo.. I'm more a passive type person, go with the flow and not demanding, whereas I find many 'men' (yes men) I've been in a relationship with believe that to be a sign of submissiveness.. which I am NOT.. so typically the stronger character feels they need to be in control of the relationship, typically because one assumes the other to be weak.. or maybe it's just their 'daddy' or 'mommy' issues surfacing..

regardless though.. in all fairness.. I have girlfriends that take the control position too.. so being the controller is not JUST women.. imo.. it's more the dynamics between the couple and what we 'allow' to happen
I can relate to what you wrote...In "real life" I'm pretty modest and low-key most of the time...I have a soft voice and tend to be on the polite-side...Some people just view me as "nice" and don't really know much about my "other sides."...I'm a private person and tend to be a loner. I open-up and reveal more about myself when I feel comfortable with someone and common interests pop-up...I think it's easy to make assumptions about people we don't know very well...My husband and I were "just friends" (and nothing more) for 2 straight years before love entered the picture...We had a chance to see "all sides" to each other and knew we were a "good match" and very compatible...We were happily married for decades until he passed-away.


I agree that over time.. one has the chance to better know another, their quirks and yes even glimpses to their darker side.. it's great you found your match with him though! I used to be a quiet, unassuming person (outwardly) as well, but age has decidedly pushed my more outgoing personality to emerge.. although it seems it's a personality that is less attractive to many men.. but who knows.. maybe one day I'll be as lucky in finding my best friend too..

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Thu 02/21/13 01:36 AM




It's a woman thing, you just have to play along and remember deep down you are equal, giving them flowers is good as well.


How is it a woman thing? Do you believe men never try to be controlling?


I believe the OP's observations are largely true regarding women's change in attitude once married. When the children arrive a further change takes place, and they become the matrons of all they survey. Best a guy can hope for is a garden shed for refuge, where he tries to keep control of the garden.


Sounds like you had a bitter marriage (or more than one) as well. I don't think I could be with someone if they're so incredibly bitter after their previous relationships.


You say you have not been married, so you are on the outside looking in so to speak, and you may be wearing rose coloured spectacles.

Sadly many marriages do fail for a variety of reasons, however, would I marry again even though it is a woman's world? Yes dear.

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Thu 02/21/13 03:27 AM



I believe it has something to do with the personalities of the duo.. I'm more a passive type person, go with the flow and not demanding, whereas I find many 'men' (yes men) I've been in a relationship with believe that to be a sign of submissiveness.. which I am NOT.. so typically the stronger character feels they need to be in control of the relationship, typically because one assumes the other to be weak.. or maybe it's just their 'daddy' or 'mommy' issues surfacing..

regardless though.. in all fairness.. I have girlfriends that take the control position too.. so being the controller is not JUST women.. imo.. it's more the dynamics between the couple and what we 'allow' to happen
I can relate to what you wrote...In "real life" I'm pretty modest and low-key most of the time...I have a soft voice and tend to be on the polite-side...Some people just view me as "nice" and don't really know much about my "other sides."...I'm a private person and tend to be a loner. I open-up and reveal more about myself when I feel comfortable with someone and common interests pop-up...I think it's easy to make assumptions about people we don't know very well...My husband and I were "just friends" (and nothing more) for 2 straight years before love entered the picture...We had a chance to see "all sides" to each other and knew we were a "good match" and very compatible...We were happily married for decades until he passed-away.


I agree that over time.. one has the chance to better know another, their quirks and yes even glimpses to their darker side.. it's great you found your match with him though! I used to be a quiet, unassuming person (outwardly) as well, but age has decidedly pushed my more outgoing personality to emerge.. although it seems it's a personality that is less attractive to many men.. but who knows.. maybe one day I'll be as lucky in finding my best friend too..
Good that you've grown and evolved through the years...I've gone through many different stages too...And some men have this same desire to grow and evolve and come into their "own" too...My husband wasn't looking for a "teenie-bop" type of woman when we met because he was at a different level and stage in his life...He had achieved goals he set for himself in his career. And he knew how to amuse himself in his "off-hours." He had tons of interests and personal goals that he created and developed for himself...He didn't live in fear of being anihilated or "wiped-out" by a woman or anyone else...He had "sure-footing" and a solid foundation of his very own when we met. So he welcomed having a life partner who was on a "growth path" too.

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Thu 02/21/13 10:15 AM





It's a woman thing, you just have to play along and remember deep down you are equal, giving them flowers is good as well.


How is it a woman thing? Do you believe men never try to be controlling?


I believe the OP's observations are largely true regarding women's change in attitude once married. When the children arrive a further change takes place, and they become the matrons of all they survey. Best a guy can hope for is a garden shed for refuge, where he tries to keep control of the garden.


Sounds like you had a bitter marriage (or more than one) as well. I don't think I could be with someone if they're so incredibly bitter after their previous relationships.


You say you have not been married, so you are on the outside looking in so to speak, and you may be wearing rose coloured spectacles.

Sadly many marriages do fail for a variety of reasons, however, would I marry again even though it is a woman's world? Yes dear.


You are correct. I have not been married. I do know many couples who are happily married, though. I'm sure there are quite a few bitter, angry ones out there as well, though. However, the happily married couples do not seem to have your attitude toward marriage. I guess that's the secret.. not being so bitter.

No need to call me dear. :smile:

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Thu 02/21/13 11:44 AM
I do not understand why you think I am bitter towards marriage, past or future? I am giving an opinion on the OP's comments, which I believe hold some truth, why on earth should I be bitter about it?
Marriage is what we make it to be.

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Thu 02/21/13 12:08 PM
I was just going by what you've said. That's all. If you say you're not bitter, ok.

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Thu 02/21/13 01:00 PM
Why are women so dominant after ????

Because we CAN MUAHAHAHAHAH!!!
devil devil devil

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Thu 02/21/13 01:11 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 02/21/13 01:16 PM

Marriage is not for everybody.
...So don't get married.

:wink:


True. And often times, people want to tell others all about Marriage, yet they have no personal experience of ever being Married. Experience is the best teacher. :thumbsup:

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Thu 02/21/13 06:36 PM




I believe it has something to do with the personalities of the duo.. I'm more a passive type person, go with the flow and not demanding, whereas I find many 'men' (yes men) I've been in a relationship with believe that to be a sign of submissiveness.. which I am NOT.. so typically the stronger character feels they need to be in control of the relationship, typically because one assumes the other to be weak.. or maybe it's just their 'daddy' or 'mommy' issues surfacing..

regardless though.. in all fairness.. I have girlfriends that take the control position too.. so being the controller is not JUST women.. imo.. it's more the dynamics between the couple and what we 'allow' to happen
I can relate to what you wrote...In "real life" I'm pretty modest and low-key most of the time...I have a soft voice and tend to be on the polite-side...Some people just view me as "nice" and don't really know much about my "other sides."...I'm a private person and tend to be a loner. I open-up and reveal more about myself when I feel comfortable with someone and common interests pop-up...I think it's easy to make assumptions about people we don't know very well...My husband and I were "just friends" (and nothing more) for 2 straight years before love entered the picture...We had a chance to see "all sides" to each other and knew we were a "good match" and very compatible...We were happily married for decades until he passed-away.


I agree that over time.. one has the chance to better know another, their quirks and yes even glimpses to their darker side.. it's great you found your match with him though! I used to be a quiet, unassuming person (outwardly) as well, but age has decidedly pushed my more outgoing personality to emerge.. although it seems it's a personality that is less attractive to many men.. but who knows.. maybe one day I'll be as lucky in finding my best friend too..
Good that you've grown and evolved through the years...I've gone through many different stages too...And some men have this same desire to grow and evolve and come into their "own" too...My husband wasn't looking for a "teenie-bop" type of woman when we met because he was at a different level and stage in his life...He had achieved goals he set for himself in his career. And he knew how to amuse himself in his "off-hours." He had tons of interests and personal goals that he created and developed for himself...He didn't live in fear of being anihilated or "wiped-out" by a woman or anyone else...He had "sure-footing" and a solid foundation of his very own when we met. So he welcomed having a life partner who was on a "growth path" too.


he sounds like an amazing guy.. how lucky to have found him you were.. as I said before.. I can only hope to find mine.. one day :wink: but in the meantime.. I'm living life and enjoying it's pleasures AND adventures lol

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Thu 02/21/13 06:40 PM

I have seen many women do it but i dont get it. As soon as their r/ship turns to marriage, their behavior totally changes. They assume control of your life-activities and such. As I know it r/ship is between 2 partners and so is marriage. But when that time arrives they make the marriage into one.
Am I not seeing something or is their a specific reason for this? Please share your thoughts


not only is that ridiculous. husbands are men not children - I daresay perhaps the ones you are referring to needed parenting?laugh


also think about it - I doubt the attitude toward females displayed in your post is going to help you win women....ohwell

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Thu 02/21/13 06:54 PM
Edited by SimplicityAtItsBest on Thu 02/21/13 07:00 PM
If you find yourself struggling too much in a relationship, you're probably with the WRONG person.

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Thu 02/21/13 07:07 PM

If you find yourself struggling too much in a relationship, you're probably with the WRONG person.



Amen. We were given the survival instinct for a reason.

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Thu 02/21/13 07:17 PM

It's a woman thing, you just have to play along and remember deep down you are equal, giving them flowers is good as well.



What a crock.

I have the same exact question about men.

As soon as you marry them, they think they own you.


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Thu 02/21/13 08:13 PM
Those yes men, should just leave their wife once and for all. What are they so afraid of? He could seek help from his family and friends if she came looking for him after they divorce. I know they're bound by contract, but no point wasting your life with someone who is bossing you around.

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Thu 02/21/13 08:48 PM


TS,

It appears to me that you have had limited exposure to married people.
I have known plenty of people who are happily married, and I was happily married to my late wife.

Getting back to the OP, yes, there are married women who attempt to get their husbands to make behavioral changes after their weddings take place . . . and vice versa. No one gender has a monopoly on such a thing.


I've known plenty of married couples. There were there were 13 just among my aunts and uncles. BTW all of them stayed married except one. But, 19 of 22 couples among my cousins are divorced. That's just my family and some of them have tried it more than once.

As I said in another post, 50% of all marriages in the USA end in divorce. That means at least half of married couples are not happy. I think 50/50 odds is a poor bet with so much at risk. But, if you disagree, by all means, get married. I just think it's important to tell people about the other side of the coin. People should be well informed before making a decision that will effect the rest of their lives. I'm sure you agree.


the only thing I would agree with is that what others do is none of your business.

If you attempted to influence my decision I would not permit it (because I agree with very little of what you say, I would not solicit your opinion)

the decisions others make about their relationships are no one else's business - nothing personal just mho


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Thu 02/21/13 10:44 PM


I have seen many women do it but i dont get it. As soon as their r/ship turns to marriage, their behavior totally changes. They assume control of your life-activities and such. As I know it r/ship is between 2 partners and so is marriage. But when that time arrives they make the marriage into one.
Am I not seeing something or is their a specific reason for this? Please share your thoughts


not only is that ridiculous. husbands are men not children - I daresay perhaps the ones you are referring to needed parenting?laugh


also think about it - I doubt the attitude toward females displayed in your post is going to help you win women....ohwell

First of all, I didnot ask this question for the sake of others and not to win women. I asked it for me since i see the kind of r/ship I see around me are frequent as the one I mentioned earlier.
Second, believe me I am not married and havent faced that kind of relationship.
Third, yeah you are right, people like that need parenting or more than parenting.
Last, are you that kind of person(meaning the one who needs parenting? I would be happy to do that)

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Thu 02/21/13 10:49 PM
Hey everybody. Thanks for the contributions. I really enjoyed it, specially the responses of singmesweet to duttoneer

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Fri 02/22/13 01:28 AM


You often sound like you're talking about women in general, rather than your ex or your friends' wives/exes.

I have several friends who are married as well and haven't heard these complaints.


What planet do you live on?

Everywhere I look I see men, walking around like zombies, married to fat, bossy women that keep these men wrapped around their little fingers. The men just keep repeating "Yes dear, yes dear. Whatever you want dear."



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl You never saw my ex's. They put on weight, got bossy and expected obediencerofl rofl rofl rofl rofl Hmm perhaps I should have been the man.

But really I think the problem is that before people are married they dont really show who they are. Whether its a woman or a man, you tend to be more attentive and accepting of things before you actually live together and realities set in.
Its not until later that you really get to know a person and their character.

Marraige is hard work and without both are able to accept the other and love them for who they are, you are in big trouble.


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Fri 02/22/13 06:49 AM


I have seen many women do it but i dont get it. As soon as their r/ship turns to marriage, their behavior totally changes. They assume control of your life-activities and such. As I know it r/ship is between 2 partners and so is marriage. But when that time arrives they make the marriage into one.
Am I not seeing something or is their a specific reason for this? Please share your thoughts


Its not gender specific. Men and women both can do it. Like someone said, "Marriage is not for everyone." One can lose themselves and their best friend because of marriage. It can be the death of a friendship. If you see yourself starting to change or them it is good to reflect as to why. It is a big step and not one to take lightly. If you find yourself being a silent partner and the changes are going too fast you might have to get out of the relationship any way you can before stepping off the leaf and expecting some else to catch you.
I agree...Some people just aren't a good "fit" or "match" for us...I don't think we should "bail" without trying to discuss things first...But if we run into "deaf ears" or defensiveness or a lack of caring or consideration towards us I think we should walk away and get-out before we run into "quicksand" that starts to bury us alive. (Or weigh us down.)

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Fri 02/22/13 06:51 AM
For reference to this question, check out Bob Burr on Youtube, routine entitled "the Epidemic of Gold Digging Whores"