Wrong. You don't even read or comprehend your own questions.
I even reposted it for you in a post above in the hope that you would actually read your own post.

I've read in this forum a number of times that women decide whether or not they want to have sex with a man within only a few seconds.

The statement did not say "whether or not they will have sex or have decided to have sex. It said whether or not the WANT to have sex.

(wants = desires)

I can't believe you are actually not getting this.



Are you serious? You aren't going to get this are you? Read this again and again until it sinks in.

She does not decide to have sex in the first few minutes, and I never said she did and your original statement never implied she did. She decides, in the first few minutes, if she might say yes or if she is attracted enough to consider saying yes.

That is what she decides in the first few minutes. (Sometimes it takes a few minutes, but maybe seconds..)





This is not always true, so you don't know as much as you think you do.



So you do get it.



No, what happens in the first few MINUTES (not seconds) is she decides... mmmm.. "MAYBE OR.." "NO WAY IN HELL EVER."

The advice to learn from all of this, for men, is that if a man can learn to tell when her reaction is "no way in hell ever.." then he can walk away without wasting any time or money.

Most women are "maybe" types. And I think a man who is conscious and alert will eventually spot the ... no way in hell ever... women pretty easy. All men have to do is to pay a little attention to HER. Most of the time they are so self conscious all they do is strut around trying to impress her and they are looking more at themselves than they are paying attention to her.

Thats the facts as I see them.

Be more like the Mentalist and pay attention to other people. To do that, you have to take your attention off of your self.

Batteries not included.

I take Tex's argument to be that if a woman thinks that she would like to and then that means that she wants to. If the sexual desire is an animal passion it is one of many desires. She wants to have sex with this guy but does she really want to want to do this and have this desire? A woman is always going to have doubts about whether or not she wants to be with a guy but it's her decision whether or not she's going to have sex with him and even if she said yes she can change her mind.

One time my ex phoned me. We had been seeing each other for a while but had only been intimate for a couple of days. We are all loved up and she wants to come round and she decided that she wants to have sex because she said that she wants to come round here and have sex. She comes round and we're in a relationship now I guess and we're talking about going out to the cinema and I say, "Cool, lets go to the cinema then". But then there's an argument because she thinks that I would rather have sex than go to the cinema. It's all about what what we really wanted to do but just because someone really wants to have sex with someone else at a particular time there is a whole ritual that must take place before the sex occurs. But then, if she had really wanted to have sex then she would have you say unless she was undecided. Sex occurs at a particular moment. There is this little game we play where we try to seduce a woman to have sex with us. Only when the desire to have sex is acted upon is it what she really wants to do because she is a person with free will that does not just have to act wantonly following her animal passions. If she is not just an animal she does not just act when she has mere freedom of action. A cat chases mice just because it sees a mouse and cats want to chase mice.

Now you're telling me I don't even know what my own questions was?

I didn't ask how long it took to decide if a man is attractive. I know that happens even before she has time to think. But, this is different from wanting to have sex with him. Maybe she'd like to at that point, but it's still up in the air.

You're just arguing semantics.

Right, you apparently didn't understand the statement in the first place that proposes that a woman knows within a few minutes if she would have sex with a man or if she would say "No way." That is the statement, or the "myth" about women you have "heard" but I don't think you understood it.

Your question was, if she has decided... (which she has not).. why not just do it on the first date? The "myth" you "heard" is not that she "decides" to have sex within the first few minutes.

I think you have your answer, at least a dozen times. Its not rocket science. Its common sense.

I am not 'arguing semantics.' I am using words for what they actually mean at the most basic level, not what you translate them to mean.

There is attraction, anticipation,why jump into it enjoy the excitement of getting there.

shhhhhhhhhhh

Well, I used to think that you should just go with your feelings and don't "play games" just so that guys take you seriously. But as I grow older, I came to find out that it really DOES matter. Not only because most guys-whether they admit it or not- subconsciously do take that into consideration when it comes to judging whether a woman is easy or not, but also its better for women's own good. Sometimes feelings you get from a guy on a first date can change rapidly after a few more, so more observations before throwing yourself out is worth it.

sex is ok if she dont want...but kisses..omg..but she think if i kiss her firts date i eill act unrespectfull with her..but i told her ill take care of the kiss..ill chose the right time...

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@ no way in hell ever


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Hey guys, women often attach more to sex than just the physical aspect

I 'want' to and Im 'going' to , are different things

like I said before, I know very few women including myself who make such a decision before knowing anything about a guy (the Im 'going to' decision, that is)

If they are the type who does decide such a thing on some whim during a first meeting,, they probably arent the type to be playing games, and if they dont act on it,, it probably means sometime between them deciding they are going to have sex and the time sex might have happened,, something ELSE happened to change their mind


just like buying a car guys,, if its beautiful and drives nice initially,, you may think 'IM gonnna buy it), but if while you are going over the contract the hoood flies off and tires deflate and the engine steams,, you will probably decide to hold off or not buy the car (depending upon whether the seller has plans to make the car as desirable as you INITIALLY thought it was)

Well said and also agree with what Carold said. Funny how the women are accused of playing games but aren't the guys doing the same thing? They are in a sense testing you to see if you are easy by sleeping with them on the first date. If you do; then they decide you aren't the type of girl to have a relationship; so to me that is also game playing.

If we want to take this to an evolutionary level....don't know if you want to get that deep or not but...

A woman has to care for the result of sex evolutionarily speaking, making sex more of serious consideration than just if she feels the urge with that person.

Now with birth control, this should be a moot point but I am observing that these evolutionary residuals are more at play than some would think.

A man thinking you are easy is really a social ill, it has nothing to do with real feelings or love or character of the woman. If a man chooses to allow social dictates to rule him, he is probably not good material to begin with.

I agree with what you say; but there are still some very old fashion attitudes out there by men. Some still think women need to be protected, men should be the sole provider, men need to buy women gifts, pay for meals, men should be head of the household, etc. This kind of thinking along with a thinking less of a woman that has sex on a first date has been ingrained in men for years. There are a few men that can see these old fashioned ideas are out dated but the majority still think that way. I can only go from my own experience of course but this has been the case with me. My friends say I am an Enigma. Me, I just see it as being able to live my life the way I want without society telling me how to act or how to behave around men. As Sage put it; I march to the beat of my own drum and essentially have become an outcast to society as I don't fit in the role that I should play as a woman. Very few can think outside the box; question traditions; or even question the gender roles. So; until society opens up their minds; men will not consider a relationship with a woman that has sex on the first date. It just is what it is.

sex on the first date could be fun

NavyGirl, other than your branch I like you! (j/k) I get it, and I absolutely LOVE the phrase you used to sum everything up; it should've killed this thread:

It is what it is. (=priceless)

I had an extremely knowledgeable, well respected, uber-intelligent MGySgt teach me this phrase and it's meaning. It means "there ain't a damn thing you can do about it, so don't waste time or effort on it - move on to what's next."

Point made.

Some folks will, some folks won't. If you are okay with it, give it or get it. IF you are not okay with it, don't do it or don't take it!

Lesbian sex worker. Inbox me if interested.

Except it only is what it is because women allow it to continue.

If you don't choose a man who would allow this to dictate his decision then they would learn not to be that way. I wouldn't want a man who believes that women can be sluts because that means he is a misogynist and will not be equal with me in his mind ever.